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On November 05 2020 05:05 Dirkzor wrote:Show nested quote +On November 05 2020 04:45 Hapahauli wrote:That all said, I think that the "thread B confirmed town" theory is out of the window. That also said, I think TT's filter makes Slam and Koshi look good. TT returns after Acro is dead, knows Acro will flip mafia, and immediately throws shade on Slam and Koshi: On November 02 2020 19:48 Tictock wrote:On November 02 2020 07:59 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Anyhow 5hrs to work.
I think Koshi started as a lion (that i would expect him to) and devolved to a house cat *meow*. He needs to step up. I still think TT is mafia. Be wary of Koshi. yamato has fallen off earth. Slam is prolly town. Onegu who knows. haha.. i dont even know anything tbh. dont kill iamp or shockeyy. From what I have read I kinda agree with rayn here regarding koshi. His first string of posts are what I remember enjoying about Koshi, but his posting this phase feels tame. I did note he mentioned he something about not having that burning passion, and for all our sakes I hope he finds it again. On November 02 2020 19:56 Tictock wrote:
Not even finishing this phase tonight, I tried
Slam seeming awkward at start of phase is all that really jumps out to me, and not like he is having fun being awkward. ... it does not seem likely for TT to respond to Acro's lynch (and knowing that he would flip red) by immediately throwing shade on another scumbuddy. I see this going either way. TT knew he was close to being lynched. So assuming he was the next lynch or maybe even vig (as happened) he wanted to throw the last bit of bus on his last mate. But your theory is equally valid. So i wouldnt put much stock in it.
Consider this: if TT had survived the night and Acro flipped red, how do you think TT would have looked? Because he hard bussed Acro all of Day/Night 0. I don't think this was done unintentionally.
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On November 05 2020 05:07 Hapahauli wrote:Show nested quote +On November 05 2020 05:05 Dirkzor wrote:On November 05 2020 04:45 Hapahauli wrote:That all said, I think that the "thread B confirmed town" theory is out of the window. That also said, I think TT's filter makes Slam and Koshi look good. TT returns after Acro is dead, knows Acro will flip mafia, and immediately throws shade on Slam and Koshi: On November 02 2020 19:48 Tictock wrote:On November 02 2020 07:59 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Anyhow 5hrs to work.
I think Koshi started as a lion (that i would expect him to) and devolved to a house cat *meow*. He needs to step up. I still think TT is mafia. Be wary of Koshi. yamato has fallen off earth. Slam is prolly town. Onegu who knows. haha.. i dont even know anything tbh. dont kill iamp or shockeyy. From what I have read I kinda agree with rayn here regarding koshi. His first string of posts are what I remember enjoying about Koshi, but his posting this phase feels tame. I did note he mentioned he something about not having that burning passion, and for all our sakes I hope he finds it again. On November 02 2020 19:56 Tictock wrote:
Not even finishing this phase tonight, I tried
Slam seeming awkward at start of phase is all that really jumps out to me, and not like he is having fun being awkward. ... it does not seem likely for TT to respond to Acro's lynch (and knowing that he would flip red) by immediately throwing shade on another scumbuddy. I see this going either way. TT knew he was close to being lynched. So assuming he was the next lynch or maybe even vig (as happened) he wanted to throw the last bit of bus on his last mate. But your theory is equally valid. So i wouldnt put much stock in it. Consider this: if TT had survived the night and Acro flipped red, how do you think TT would have looked? Because he hard bussed Acro all of Day/Night 0. I don't think this was done unintentionally.
He would have looked exactly the same is what i think. I wouldn't have thought his 2½ remarks on acro as indicative of anything. I'm not really sure what you think would have happened so you're welcome to explain.
All im trying to say here is that I think you are overthinking parts of your analysis atm.
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I mean NOW after both have flipped they tell a story. But with only Acro flip... not so much. And at the point where TT wrote it, he assumed we would only have the Acro flip to work with.
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On November 05 2020 05:14 Dirkzor wrote:Show nested quote +On November 05 2020 05:07 Hapahauli wrote:On November 05 2020 05:05 Dirkzor wrote:On November 05 2020 04:45 Hapahauli wrote:That all said, I think that the "thread B confirmed town" theory is out of the window. That also said, I think TT's filter makes Slam and Koshi look good. TT returns after Acro is dead, knows Acro will flip mafia, and immediately throws shade on Slam and Koshi: On November 02 2020 19:48 Tictock wrote:On November 02 2020 07:59 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Anyhow 5hrs to work.
I think Koshi started as a lion (that i would expect him to) and devolved to a house cat *meow*. He needs to step up. I still think TT is mafia. Be wary of Koshi. yamato has fallen off earth. Slam is prolly town. Onegu who knows. haha.. i dont even know anything tbh. dont kill iamp or shockeyy. From what I have read I kinda agree with rayn here regarding koshi. His first string of posts are what I remember enjoying about Koshi, but his posting this phase feels tame. I did note he mentioned he something about not having that burning passion, and for all our sakes I hope he finds it again. On November 02 2020 19:56 Tictock wrote:
Not even finishing this phase tonight, I tried
Slam seeming awkward at start of phase is all that really jumps out to me, and not like he is having fun being awkward. ... it does not seem likely for TT to respond to Acro's lynch (and knowing that he would flip red) by immediately throwing shade on another scumbuddy. I see this going either way. TT knew he was close to being lynched. So assuming he was the next lynch or maybe even vig (as happened) he wanted to throw the last bit of bus on his last mate. But your theory is equally valid. So i wouldnt put much stock in it. Consider this: if TT had survived the night and Acro flipped red, how do you think TT would have looked? Because he hard bussed Acro all of Day/Night 0. I don't think this was done unintentionally. He would have looked exactly the same is what i think. I wouldn't have thought his 2½ remarks on acro as indicative of anything. I'm not really sure what you think would have happened so you're welcome to explain. All im trying to say here is that I think you are overthinking parts of your analysis atm.
Reading through TT's Day 0 / Night 0 filter is striking, because as admittedly inactive as he was, he was the first player to call Acro suspicious, and was consistent with it throughout the cycle.
When you think about the mafia roles this game:
1) Acro activated his ability on N0
2) TT seemingly activated his ability sometime on D1 (hence the noflips on D1/N1).
This all looks like a planned and coordinated play by mafia, that was probably blown up by TT afk'ing unexpectedly. I think part of that play was setting up for TT to bus Acro hard and claim cred.
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I don't think it's "too speculative" to assume that Scum tried to coordinate early game. We know for a fact that Acro activated his role with the intent of TT activating his ability to delay flips.
And if that plan works, iamp gets shot, two townies get mislynched (and dont flip), and town is already in a world of hurt going into N1. A successful bus of Acro puts mafia in hell of a position.
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I am banking on dirk to bring town the victory when you are gone hapa.
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On November 05 2020 05:27 Hapahauli wrote:Show nested quote +On November 05 2020 05:14 Dirkzor wrote:On November 05 2020 05:07 Hapahauli wrote:On November 05 2020 05:05 Dirkzor wrote:On November 05 2020 04:45 Hapahauli wrote:That all said, I think that the "thread B confirmed town" theory is out of the window. That also said, I think TT's filter makes Slam and Koshi look good. TT returns after Acro is dead, knows Acro will flip mafia, and immediately throws shade on Slam and Koshi: On November 02 2020 19:48 Tictock wrote:On November 02 2020 07:59 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Anyhow 5hrs to work.
I think Koshi started as a lion (that i would expect him to) and devolved to a house cat *meow*. He needs to step up. I still think TT is mafia. Be wary of Koshi. yamato has fallen off earth. Slam is prolly town. Onegu who knows. haha.. i dont even know anything tbh. dont kill iamp or shockeyy. From what I have read I kinda agree with rayn here regarding koshi. His first string of posts are what I remember enjoying about Koshi, but his posting this phase feels tame. I did note he mentioned he something about not having that burning passion, and for all our sakes I hope he finds it again. On November 02 2020 19:56 Tictock wrote:
Not even finishing this phase tonight, I tried
Slam seeming awkward at start of phase is all that really jumps out to me, and not like he is having fun being awkward. ... it does not seem likely for TT to respond to Acro's lynch (and knowing that he would flip red) by immediately throwing shade on another scumbuddy. I see this going either way. TT knew he was close to being lynched. So assuming he was the next lynch or maybe even vig (as happened) he wanted to throw the last bit of bus on his last mate. But your theory is equally valid. So i wouldnt put much stock in it. Consider this: if TT had survived the night and Acro flipped red, how do you think TT would have looked? Because he hard bussed Acro all of Day/Night 0. I don't think this was done unintentionally. He would have looked exactly the same is what i think. I wouldn't have thought his 2½ remarks on acro as indicative of anything. I'm not really sure what you think would have happened so you're welcome to explain. All im trying to say here is that I think you are overthinking parts of your analysis atm. Reading through TT's Day 0 / Night 0 filter is striking, because as admittedly inactive as he was, he was the first player to call Acro suspicious, and was consistent with it throughout the cycle. When you think about the mafia roles this game: 1) Acro activated his ability on N0 2) TT seemingly activated his ability sometime on D1 (hence the noflips on D1/N1). This all looks like a planned and coordinated play by mafia, that was probably blown up by TT afk'ing unexpectedly. I think part of that play was setting up for TT to bus Acro hard and claim cred.
I'm not saying this might can't be the truth. It just seems to well planned for a mafia team with 1 guy mostly AFK (D0/n0 maybe because he was in scum QT tho). The few times i've been mafia, the plan never ever gets fully planned and people do stuff left and right. I just won't give credit to a team that have failed this badly up until this point to have made this well thought out plan (despite it failing)
But to be fair i havent really done my homework here with filterdiving and re-reading like i usually do. Been a long day for me ..
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hapa killed the game by catching all the mafia ![[image loading]](https://i.lensdump.com/i/8jOY02.gif)
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so just slam and grack go to the database agreed ?
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Why send both? Grack should go alone. Slam should do whatever.
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On November 05 2020 10:54 Hapahauli wrote:
Why send both? Grack should go alone. Slam should do whatever.
well i dont think we ever figured out if you can go to database and kill
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On November 05 2020 11:09 iamperfection wrote:Show nested quote +On November 05 2020 10:54 Hapahauli wrote:
Why send both? Grack should go alone. Slam should do whatever. well i dont think we ever figured out if you can go to database and kill
dunno.
I'll let you know. 
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Nah I'm just messing with you.
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On November 05 2020 00:40 Koshi wrote:Show nested quote +On November 05 2020 00:16 Grackaroni wrote:
There's no reason why Rayn would be mafia though. He helped get rid of TTTTT. We already know Hapa is 3rd party because he called his alternate win condition his 3rd party win-con. Maybe he can win with town as well maybe not.
If it's not Slam then it's going to be Dirkzor. I know I'm not mafia. Dirkzor poked around a few places for the day1 lynch and probably moved his vote to Acro because the townies in the other thread were all pushing for lynching him. There was no indication that Onegu/I were going to come in and vote on Hapa, and I think he had every reason to believe the lynch could still move around with time to somebody else.
Slam/I need to be cleared out anyway and it seems like town has a big enough lead at the moment to do that. What about yamato. 2 friends rip and he talks carrot. Coincidence?
yamato is confirmed town
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On November 05 2020 10:48 iamperfection wrote:
so just slam and grack go to the database agreed ?
Yes. Slam and Grack go.
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How many for corruption increase. Half majority is 3? 9/2 = 5, 5/2=3
Am i doing it right?
So we should send 1-2.
Yeah grack and slam is fine if my math is correct.
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On November 05 2020 16:09 Dirkzor wrote:
How many for corruption increase. Half majority is 3? 9/2 = 5, 5/2=3
Am i doing it right?
So we should send 1-2.
Yeah grack and slam is fine if my math is correct.
Plus remember, I don’t count. Maybe I forgot to state that? I’m trying to not directly quote my pm.
I don’t contribute to the database corruption in either direction. If I were solo, it would corrupt since technically no one visited.
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Yeah i know. Thats why you two is fine. That way we will still somewhat know if grack went or not (or figure out if you are lying about your role. But if you are, you are lost likely scum and cant push it to 3 visits.)
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EPT
