EPTOn November 05 2020 00:59 Hapahauli wrote:
Slam, I understand that you targeted me on N1.
Who did you target on N2?
Slam, I understand that you targeted me on N1.
Who did you target on N2?
he said he didnt use it
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iamperfection
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Alakaslam
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iamperfection
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ShoCkeyy
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Hapahauli
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If so, Slam can only confirm if I was or wasn't the "target" of a redirect effect. Seemingly, I wasn't, and I was separately roleblocked by something... again, presumably mafia. | ||
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Grackaroni
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On November 05 2020 00:57 Hapahauli wrote: Actually, that kinda depends on how we interpret the mechanics, and whether or not a "majority" in one "thread" constitutes a "majority" for the purposes of activating TT's role. Need to ask Greymist. You might not be able to activate that in a secret vote. It requires Greymist giving information about how people voted. | ||
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Grackaroni
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Hapahauli
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Hapahauli
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On November 05 2020 00:57 Hapahauli wrote: Actually, that kinda depends on how we interpret the mechanics, and whether or not a "majority" in one "thread" constitutes a "majority" for the purposes of activating TT's role. Need to ask Greymist. So I clarified this with Greymist. 1) Apparently any votes are counted for the purpose of a "majority" role mechanic unless otherwise stated. 2) Greymist seemed to confirm that TT's role could have been activated during the parallel world scenario. I think the analysis discounting "Thread B" as mafia likely holds, but I'll need to go through the thread and plot out exactly when players were inactive in thread. Lack of compatible activity is also a plausible explanation for mafia's lack of coordination, which is more possible due to TT's long period of absence during Day 1. | ||
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Hapahauli
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1.Iamperfection (Town, behavior) 2. Hapahauli (brb killing more mafia) 3. Grackaroni (Plausible Mafia, behavior, mafia agenda) 4. Onegu (Confirmed Town) 5. Dirkzor (Plausible Mafia, but not worth really thinking about until the countdown timer expires) 6. Acro (Confirmed Mafia) 7. ShoCkeyy (Town, behavior + role interactions, no evidence of coordination /w Acro given lack of coordination between Acro/TT) 8. Alakaslam (Plausible mafia, but play is likely town due to no coordination /w Acro + implausible for TT to only provide reads on his two mafia teammates and no one else) 9. TT (confirmed mafia) 10. Koshi (Plausible Mafia, play is active, vote on Acro is pro town, but hard defending TT is objectively mafia-sided) 11. Raynpelikoneet (Plausible mafia, but play is likely indicative of paranoia, unlikely mafia /w Acro given the evidence of lack of coordination.) 12. Yamato77 (Town, behavior, role suggests town-handicap) | ||
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Grackaroni
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On November 05 2020 01:26 Hapahauli wrote: What do you mean? My assumption is that I was RB'd by mafia, since no townie has claimed responsibility, and given Acro's interactions with me regarding my KP. I should have phrased that as a question for ShoCkkey On November 05 2020 01:11 ShoCkeyy wrote: It doesn’t add up, I got rb n1, Hapa got rb N0 but not By mafia. So then who did mafia rb N0? | ||
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ShoCkeyy
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On November 05 2020 01:59 Grackaroni wrote: I should have phrased that as a question for ShoCkkey The only other assumption is that he got targeted by both mafia and slam. | ||
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Alakaslam
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On November 05 2020 01:10 iamperfection wrote: but the corruption count would still increase if only you go correct Right, iirc if no one goes (which my solo visit would do) then it goes up. | ||
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Alakaslam
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On November 05 2020 01:13 Hapahauli wrote: My interpretation of Slam's role is that he cancel's busdriver/redirect effects. If so, Slam can only confirm if I was or wasn't the "target" of a redirect effect. Seemingly, I wasn't, and I was separately roleblocked by something... again, presumably mafia. And this intepretation is correct. My “sarcasm functions” do not roleblock. They simply prevent actions from being redirected. | ||
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Dirkzor
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It didnt feel like lurker afk to me what TT did. More like just RL stuff afk. | ||
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Hapahauli
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TT posts #709 at 10/30/2020 3:15 EDT on Page 36, which is reasonably close to the N0 deadline. Acro does his ##ACCELERATION ZONE fake thing only two hours later. TT then is gone pretty much the entirety of D1 and almost all of N1 (which I do take at face value, since he didn't even try to save himself in Thread B). Acro is already lynched by the time he comes back. It is plausible that Acro and TT had something planned (since they were active roughly at the same time), but TT's inactivity for all of D1 nuked it into oblivion. | ||
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Koshi
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On November 05 2020 00:50 Hapahauli wrote: Yes. At the end of N2. And Christ, how many mafia do I need to kill before I stop being harassed by townies? 4 | ||
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Hapahauli
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That also said, I think TT's filter makes Slam and Koshi look good. TT returns after Acro is dead, knows Acro will flip mafia, and immediately throws shade on Slam and Koshi: On November 02 2020 19:48 Tictock wrote: From what I have read I kinda agree with rayn here regarding koshi. His first string of posts are what I remember enjoying about Koshi, but his posting this phase feels tame. I did note he mentioned he something about not having that burning passion, and for all our sakes I hope he finds it again. On November 02 2020 19:56 Tictock wrote: Not even finishing this phase tonight, I tried Slam seeming awkward at start of phase is all that really jumps out to me, and not like he is having fun being awkward. ... it does not seem likely for TT to respond to Acro's lynch (and knowing that he would flip red) by immediately throwing shade on another scumbuddy. | ||
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Dirkzor
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On November 05 2020 04:45 Hapahauli wrote: That all said, I think that the "thread B confirmed town" theory is out of the window. That also said, I think TT's filter makes Slam and Koshi look good. TT returns after Acro is dead, knows Acro will flip mafia, and immediately throws shade on Slam and Koshi: ... it does not seem likely for TT to respond to Acro's lynch (and knowing that he would flip red) by immediately throwing shade on another scumbuddy. I see this going either way. TT knew he was close to being lynched. So assuming he was the next lynch or maybe even vig (as happened) he wanted to throw the last bit of bus on his last mate. But your theory is equally valid. So i wouldnt put much stock in it. | ||
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