EPTOn September 29 2020 06:08 GlowingBear wrote:
Also, rayn, do you still think I'm mafia?
Also, rayn, do you still think I'm mafia?
yes
[M][N] I'm a cop you idiot! - Round 2 - Page 10
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raynpelikoneet
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CopCake
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He can easily be lying and knew Dadred was the cop, knowing the set up, etc and yet still post he is surprised about it when Shockey posted the real set up, at least last game I remember Dadred said he likes to fish for reactions so GB probably felt the need to post that he is surprised specially because sooner or later we would realize that Rayn and Him were the ones discussing the changes of the game. So pretty much one of GB and Rayn is mafia more likely and I am more inclined to think it is GB. | ||
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Dadred
249 Posts
On September 29 2020 06:03 raynpelikoneet wrote: Okay Damdred, let's get this thing settled. Let's assume GB is telling the truth at all times he has been posting. Why is he town in your opinion (you said he could be -- let's not get into semantics), what are the things that make him town? I am going to say this plainly, my initial thought process on GB went like this. GB suspects me being scum for being cop->I think this is mafia indicative behavior trying to downplay me for partner to claim-> Oh wait, GB knew the setup and there are two possibilities GB either thinks I am mafia trying to get a cop outed, or thinks i'm an idiot. Seemed it was option one-> This line of thought is town indicative at least on surface level. What actually happened GB suspects me for just claiming cop and does not know the settup and instantly says that GB is not the cop (this might be where the disconnect comes from). This is not a towny play, if he is town he should never identify himself as not a role in this scenario if he does not believe the initial claim as that condenses the pool to shoot into. Just laying cards on the table, I am more neutral on GB. I don't think GB has any reason to lie about not knowing the setup, but I think there are some things I don't like about the actual scenario that played out. But I also don't like how you keep saying i'm townreading GB when i've been saying for the past 5 posts that his play doesn't make sense from town with the new information. | ||
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CopCake
4378 Posts
On September 29 2020 06:07 GlowingBear wrote: ? I don't understand where you're coming from here. I meant my skills are so honed that I can detect a fake claim easily. Of course I'm exaggerating here, but why is it a problem to play with intuition in the beginning of the game? No, the problem is that you didn't believe the "cop claim" but you did believe the "ooppss I messed up" really fast without questioning. | ||
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GlowingBear
Brazil12446 Posts
On September 29 2020 06:10 CopCake wrote: I don't understand the whole "I knew or not knew the set up" clears me deal with GB. He can easily be lying and knew Dadred was the cop, knowing the set up, etc and yet still post he is surprised about it when Shockey posted the real set up, at least last game I remember Dadred said he likes to fish for reactions so GB probably felt the need to post that he is surprised specially because sooner or later we would realize that Rayn and Him were the ones discussing the changes of the game. So pretty much one of GB and Rayn is mafia more likely and I am more inclined to think it is GB. Dear I can post, as mafia, as easily as I can breath lol Now, why one out of me and rayn MUST be mafia? And what's my motivation as mafia to lie? | ||
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ruXxar
Norway5669 Posts
On September 29 2020 06:09 raynpelikoneet wrote: There are no minute details in any of the posts in this game??? I always play big brother if that's what you want to call it. What's new in it as me in any alignment? It's a cheap attempt at trying to create a target when the premise is NAI. town!rayn would agree with me. | ||
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raynpelikoneet
Finland43269 Posts
On September 29 2020 06:12 Dadred wrote: I am going to say this plainly, my initial thought process on GB went like this. GB suspects me being scum for being cop->I think this is mafia indicative behavior trying to downplay me for partner to claim-> Oh wait, GB knew the setup and there are two possibilities GB either thinks I am mafia trying to get a cop outed, or thinks i'm an idiot. Seemed it was option one-> This line of thought is town indicative at least on surface level. What actually happened GB suspects me for just claiming cop and does not know the settup and instantly says that GB is not the cop (this might be where the disconnect comes from). This is not a towny play, if he is town he should never identify himself as not a role in this scenario if he does not believe the initial claim as that condenses the pool to shoot into. Just laying cards on the table, I am more neutral on GB. I don't think GB has any reason to lie about not knowing the setup, but I think there are some things I don't like about the actual scenario that played out. But I also don't like how you keep saying i'm townreading GB when i've been saying for the past 5 posts that his play doesn't make sense from town with the new information. okay. | ||
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GlowingBear
Brazil12446 Posts
On September 29 2020 06:12 Dadred wrote: I am going to say this plainly, my initial thought process on GB went like this. GB suspects me being scum for being cop->I think this is mafia indicative behavior trying to downplay me for partner to claim-> Oh wait, GB knew the setup and there are two possibilities GB either thinks I am mafia trying to get a cop outed, or thinks i'm an idiot. Seemed it was option one-> This line of thought is town indicative at least on surface level. What actually happened GB suspects me for just claiming cop and does not know the settup and instantly says that GB is not the cop (this might be where the disconnect comes from). This is not a towny play, if he is town he should never identify himself as not a role in this scenario if he does not believe the initial claim as that condenses the pool to shoot into. Just laying cards on the table, I am more neutral on GB. I don't think GB has any reason to lie about not knowing the setup, but I think there are some things I don't like about the actual scenario that played out. But I also don't like how you keep saying i'm townreading GB when i've been saying for the past 5 posts that his play doesn't make sense from town with the new information. You both are overthinking my posts and it is boring the hell out of me  Anyway, I think I've explained enough so I won't interfere in this discussion anymore. Feel free to ask for any clarification, though. | ||
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raynpelikoneet
Finland43269 Posts
On September 29 2020 06:14 ruXxar wrote: It's a cheap attempt at trying to create a target when the premise is NAI. town!rayn would agree with me. okay noone is mafia how long are we gonna sit on that? D2? | ||
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GlowingBear
Brazil12446 Posts
On September 29 2020 06:13 CopCake wrote: No, the problem is that you didn't believe the "cop claim" but you did believe the "ooppss I messed up" really fast without questioning. How are these correlated? I didn't 100% believe Damdy's claim based on intuition and with the intention of generating discussion. I didn't mess up, I just forgot the setup and that makes no difference to the game. | ||
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ruXxar
Norway5669 Posts
On September 29 2020 06:12 Dadred wrote: I am going to say this plainly, my initial thought process on GB went like this. GB suspects me being scum for being cop->I think this is mafia indicative behavior trying to downplay me for partner to claim-> Oh wait, GB knew the setup and there are two possibilities GB either thinks I am mafia trying to get a cop outed, or thinks i'm an idiot. Seemed it was option one-> This line of thought is town indicative at least on surface level. What actually happened GB suspects me for just claiming cop and does not know the settup and instantly says that GB is not the cop (this might be where the disconnect comes from). This is not a towny play, if he is town he should never identify himself as not a role in this scenario if he does not believe the initial claim as that condenses the pool to shoot into. Just laying cards on the table, I am more neutral on GB. I don't think GB has any reason to lie about not knowing the setup, but I think there are some things I don't like about the actual scenario that played out. But I also don't like how you keep saying i'm townreading GB when i've been saying for the past 5 posts that his play doesn't make sense from town with the new information. I like this post a lot. I'll sheep you damdy. | ||
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CopCake
4378 Posts
On September 29 2020 06:14 GlowingBear wrote: Dear I can post, as mafia, as easily as I can breath lol Now, why one out of me and rayn MUST be mafia? And what's my motivation as mafia to lie? Then why are you so happy to be town? :p I think in this scenario: Mafia GB is trying to check if Dadred is the real cop, fishing, then when shockey came in and dadred was all like "ooppss" you decided to be on his good side and reacted like "oh he is town". And for the way you are going at each other throats and how rayn talked about "you were supposed to be my scum buddy", that kind of information. I am trying to see this as townie/townie but I find it hard with how hard you changed your mind with not questioning (Rayn questioned Dadred even after the set up thing). | ||
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raynpelikoneet
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CopCake
4378 Posts
On September 29 2020 06:17 GlowingBear wrote: How are these correlated? I didn't 100% believe Damdy's claim based on intuition and with the intention of generating discussion. I didn't mess up, I just forgot the setup and that makes no difference to the game. So it was just all to get reactions? | ||
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CopCake
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On September 29 2020 06:23 raynpelikoneet wrote: well that sdoesnt make much sense, the last part.- which part? is that for me? | ||
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raynpelikoneet
Finland43269 Posts
I am trying to see this as townie/townie but I find it hard with how hard you changed your mind with not questioning (Rayn questioned Dadred even after the set up thing). how would that be different from T/M? | ||
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ruXxar
Norway5669 Posts
On September 29 2020 06:16 raynpelikoneet wrote: okay noone is mafia how long are we gonna sit on that? D2? Please. We're barely into the night phase. There's plenty of time to find mafia. | ||
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raynpelikoneet
Finland43269 Posts
On September 29 2020 06:26 ruXxar wrote: Please. We're barely into the night phase. There's plenty of time to find mafia. right. the reality is, however, there is not  | ||
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raynpelikoneet
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GlowingBear
Brazil12446 Posts
On September 29 2020 06:21 CopCake wrote: Then why are you so happy to be town? :p I think in this scenario: Mafia GB is trying to check if Dadred is the real cop, fishing, then when shockey came in and dadred was all like "ooppss" you decided to be on his good side and reacted like "oh he is town". And for the way you are going at each other throats and how rayn talked about "you were supposed to be my scum buddy", that kind of information. I am trying to see this as townie/townie but I find it hard with how hard you changed your mind with not questioning (Rayn questioned Dadred even after the set up thing). Dear, if I am mafia and I see a townie claiming I'd just assume he was the cop and would try to figure out who is the doctor based on behavior. I wouldn't need to doubt the claim to gather more information about him. I'm not going at anyone's throat and I didn't change my mind on anything so I'm still not sure where you're coming from | ||
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