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LightningStrike
Profile Joined February 2011
United States14276 Posts
August 09 2020 18:42 GMT
#121
It was still dumb by Ewya but I starting to see it coming from a town perspective given I liked his large post on you I think it shows he's thinking of the game critically but I still didn't like how he tried to blue hunt like that early.
May the next light shine/Former #1 Alliance LoL fan/ Current Teamliquid LoL Fan
HoldenGolden
Profile Joined July 2020
United States25 Posts
August 09 2020 18:44 GMT
#122
On August 10 2020 03:40 LightningStrike wrote:
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On August 10 2020 03:38 HoldenGolden wrote:
On August 10 2020 01:51 LightningStrike wrote:
##Unvote That actually a good post by Ewya but I still don't know why he wanted that blue claim so bad early..

Bouce ideas with me then.

What do you think would be the pros and cons of such an blatant blue hunt?

Pros: None at all.
Cons: Outing the doctor so they get roleblocked for the rest of the game/night killed as well.

Ok....I meant from a mafia perspective assuming Ewya is scum.
HoldenGolden
Profile Joined July 2020
United States25 Posts
August 09 2020 18:45 GMT
#123
On August 10 2020 00:16 Eywa- wrote:
OH MY GOD YOU RUINER

What did he ruin btw lol? A reaction test?
LightningStrike
Profile Joined February 2011
United States14276 Posts
August 09 2020 18:46 GMT
#124
On August 10 2020 03:44 HoldenGolden wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 10 2020 03:40 LightningStrike wrote:
On August 10 2020 03:38 HoldenGolden wrote:
On August 10 2020 01:51 LightningStrike wrote:
##Unvote That actually a good post by Ewya but I still don't know why he wanted that blue claim so bad early..

Bouce ideas with me then.

What do you think would be the pros and cons of such an blatant blue hunt?

Pros: None at all.
Cons: Outing the doctor so they get roleblocked for the rest of the game/night killed as well.

Ok....I meant from a mafia perspective assuming Ewya is scum.

Pros if Ewya was scum: Out the doctor so you can roleblock/kill them in night 1.
Cons: Drawing attention to yourself in a negative light.
I know Ewya is normally a smart player as town so that why I gave the read I did at the time.
May the next light shine/Former #1 Alliance LoL fan/ Current Teamliquid LoL Fan
LightningStrike
Profile Joined February 2011
United States14276 Posts
August 09 2020 18:47 GMT
#125
On August 10 2020 03:45 HoldenGolden wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 10 2020 00:16 Eywa- wrote:
OH MY GOD YOU RUINER

What did he ruin btw lol? A reaction test?

If I had to take a guess I think Ewya wanted to call Vivax mafia for not posting up until that point? I am not Ewya but it just a guess on my end.
May the next light shine/Former #1 Alliance LoL fan/ Current Teamliquid LoL Fan
LightningStrike
Profile Joined February 2011
United States14276 Posts
August 09 2020 18:49 GMT
#126
Anyways I got Clash tonight as well just fyi if you don't see me posting after 6:15 pm CST that is why.
May the next light shine/Former #1 Alliance LoL fan/ Current Teamliquid LoL Fan
LightningStrike
Profile Joined February 2011
United States14276 Posts
August 09 2020 19:51 GMT
#127
Man where is everyone I would of thought someone would post by now o.o
May the next light shine/Former #1 Alliance LoL fan/ Current Teamliquid LoL Fan
LightningStrike
Profile Joined February 2011
United States14276 Posts
August 09 2020 20:14 GMT
#128
Like this activity isn't good for town because mafia can easily blend into the shadows with a very afk town like this....
May the next light shine/Former #1 Alliance LoL fan/ Current Teamliquid LoL Fan
Eywa-
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Canada4876 Posts
August 09 2020 22:49 GMT
#129
On August 10 2020 03:32 HoldenGolden wrote:
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On August 10 2020 01:44 Eywa- wrote:
I read another game from HoldenGolden and there are several striking differences. In the other game, he doesn't really try to question other people in the same post that he's breaking out a scum read (he does that here). Also, he developed his read in the other game a lot more, here he posted the vote and then stated the read, but only after being asked. I also found his last game to be a lot more of a meme, his posts were less focused early and became more focused over the course of day 1 and developed into reads.

I think he's just naked mafia here, but even I admit it's a small sample size.

The first thing that struck me is how he immediately commented on Shockey for something that FF did before Shockey and none of the discussion that followed even mentioned FF... I immediately thought, someone is getting spewed here, but I don't know who. That's when I looked more into HoldenGolden's past games.

I'm torn because I think the mechanically correct play here is to kill GTacc (combination of him being scummy and not being involved in the stupid discussion about claimed confirmed town), but I really want to vote HoldenGolden... So, we're killing one of them today.
hahaha I go off site to have a better town game, and I'm instantly metaed. Ok.

Is your scum read on me purely from meta, or is my play in a vaccum scummy too? Let's start here.

If you are a meta player though, I would suggest you read the follow meta analysis as it very accurately described my meta albeit it's somewhat dated. All it's missing really scum wise is the game where I rolled scum with another shitposter and we trolled the game by actively teasing we were scum together. Somehow we won lol
https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?p=11762333#p11762333

Do you feel like you've succeeded so far?
Being mannered is almost as important as winning. Almost...
LightningStrike
Profile Joined February 2011
United States14276 Posts
August 09 2020 22:50 GMT
#130
ya since noone wants to talk while I am around I will be leaving for clash for the rest of tonight. When I wake up in the morning I will check everything!
May the next light shine/Former #1 Alliance LoL fan/ Current Teamliquid LoL Fan
Fecalfeast
Profile Joined January 2010
Canada11355 Posts
August 09 2020 23:06 GMT
#131
i am very sorry lol I am here now catching up
ModeratorINFLATE YOUR POST COUNT; PLAY TL MAFIA
Fecalfeast
Profile Joined January 2010
Canada11355 Posts
August 09 2020 23:14 GMT
#132
Of the three active non-LS people so far this is the order I would rank them from towniest to scummiest
eywa

cheesecake

holden

I can't read LS because I think everything he says is scummy because he doesn't really understand subtext if I remember correctly it has been a while.

Trfel pings towny to me for his early questions but honestly meh otherwise

nobody reads overly scummy to me. The only reason holden is on the bottom of my short list is because their posts seem forced and overly aggressive IMHO. I get they're an offsite player though so who know what they do over there.

vivax we will have to wait and see. I like that he found a non-obvious post to make a read on and one I also liked to boot.
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Fecalfeast
Profile Joined January 2010
Canada11355 Posts
August 09 2020 23:17 GMT
#133
On August 10 2020 05:14 LightningStrike wrote:
Like this activity isn't good for town because mafia can easily blend into the shadows with a very afk town like this....

see if you weren't LS this would read scummy to me but I for you this seems totally normal
ModeratorINFLATE YOUR POST COUNT; PLAY TL MAFIA
Fecalfeast
Profile Joined January 2010
Canada11355 Posts
August 09 2020 23:26 GMT
#134
oh yeah I guess gtacc can die but that's no fun
ModeratorINFLATE YOUR POST COUNT; PLAY TL MAFIA
Hapahauli
Profile Joined May 2009
United States9305 Posts
August 10 2020 01:04 GMT
#135
There is no majority. Day will continue for another 24 hours.
a talking rock that sprouts among the waves woosh
Trfel
Profile Joined August 2011
7015 Posts
August 10 2020 01:11 GMT
#136
On August 10 2020 01:44 Eywa- wrote:
I read another game from HoldenGolden and there are several striking differences. In the other game, he doesn't really try to question other people in the same post that he's breaking out a scum read (he does that here). Also, he developed his read in the other game a lot more, here he posted the vote and then stated the read, but only after being asked. I also found his last game to be a lot more of a meme, his posts were less focused early and became more focused over the course of day 1 and developed into reads.

I think he's just naked mafia here, but even I admit it's a small sample size.

The first thing that struck me is how he immediately commented on Shockey for something that FF did before Shockey and none of the discussion that followed even mentioned FF... I immediately thought, someone is getting spewed here, but I don't know who. That's when I looked more into HoldenGolden's past games.

I'm torn because I think the mechanically correct play here is to kill GTacc (combination of him being scummy and not being involved in the stupid discussion about claimed confirmed town), but I really want to vote HoldenGolden... So, we're killing one of them today.
Can I ask how you went about finding HoldenGolden's previous games? I wasn't aware that there were any previous games to look at?

I don't have many reads, unfortunately. I kinda like HoldenGolden though, he seems to be one of the few people who is active and poking around and trying to investigate things and get reads. Especially in an inactive game like this, that seems rather towny.

That's about all I have to say currently. Feel free to poke me, I'll try and check in every so often.
ShoCkeyy
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
7815 Posts
August 10 2020 03:44 GMT
#137
So no majority, this is feeling like the previous mafia games, where mafia tend to just not post at all while town goes at each other throats.

I didn’t get to post most of the weekend since I have family over. But starting tomorrow I’ll have more time to post.
Life?
Fecalfeast
Profile Joined January 2010
Canada11355 Posts
August 10 2020 03:45 GMT
#138
On August 10 2020 12:44 ShoCkeyy wrote:
So no majority, this is feeling like the previous mafia games, where mafia tend to just not post at all while town goes at each other throats.

I didn’t get to post most of the weekend since I have family over. But starting tomorrow I’ll have more time to post.

so who is the mafia then?
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ShoCkeyy
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
7815 Posts
August 10 2020 03:48 GMT
#139
On August 09 2020 21:32 HoldenGolden wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 09 2020 12:49 LightningStrike wrote:
oh wait holden is here
On August 09 2020 12:46 HoldenGolden wrote:
On August 09 2020 12:20 LightningStrike wrote:
Got 2nd place in clash T_T. Shockeyy looks a little forced? Trfel looks alright but nothing spectacular from his entrance? Will keep an eye on him. Holden looks alright.


Can you elaborate on how you feel Shockeyy seems to be forced tonally?

Out of curiosity, is trfel known for having spectacular entrances?

He was being overly happy type of forced at least tone wise I might reading into it to much. Trfel sometimes does spectacular entrances but more often than not doesn't.

Unvote
Vote: lightingstrike



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On August 09 2020 15:01 ShoCkeyy wrote:
On August 09 2020 13:36 Trfel wrote:
On August 09 2020 11:56 HoldenGolden wrote:
1) he said it in the same sentence that he was answering my question about the voting thread. Therefore, it came off as if he was speaking to me still.

2) Mostly to get the ball rolling; there's no specific AI reason yet.
Thanks, that makes sense. I see now.


When people look into openings too hard, it gives me the jeebies.

Do you got jeebies now? If so, care to explain it to the class?



Typically when people dig too much into first day posts, I tend to start feeling like the person digging is scummy since D1 posts are usually not informative at all. But this is a different type of game, and no one voted at all.

For this next day, we’re going to have to focus on those that are just not posting at all.
Life?
Fecalfeast
Profile Joined January 2010
Canada11355 Posts
August 10 2020 03:48 GMT
#140
Ok so which inactive do we kill? I'm down with your plan for right now but you have to drive
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