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On August 11 2020 04:23 Vivax wrote:Show nested quote +On August 11 2020 04:21 Trfel wrote:Terrible Takes by TrfelTown LeanLightningStrike + Show Spoiler +Mostly a gut read, but two more reasons. First, he's made the most posts in the thread so far, which (much) more often than not makes someone town, especially in a low-activity game like this. And second, his worry about the lack of activity in the game feels genuine. It's not a very strong read, but I'd bet on it if I had to. Mr. Cheesecake + Show Spoiler +I still feel a bit bugged by how he played earlier in the game, but since then he's been investigating things and more importantly, he's been pushing his reads. In a low-activity game like this, there is less incentive for mafia to push reads. Despite the aforementioned things that I don't like, the rest of his play feels towny and investigative. HoldenGolden + Show Spoiler +While LightningStrike has provided the most posts in this game, HoldenGolden has provided the most content in this game. He's been probing and poking everyone and seems to genuinely be trying to figure out the game. NullGTacc Vivax Mafia LeanEywa- + Show Spoiler +His post on HoldenGolden, sharing his suspicions of him, that later vanished into thin air. It was his most explained and serious read, and seems to have taken a decent amount of effort to read a previous game and compare. And note that later, he even mentions who he wants to lynch but can't (GTacc). If he's still scumreading HoldenGolden, why wouldn't he be in this category? Or if something changed, why not say what changed? The only thing I can think of that caused this is in the time between these two linked posts, several people posted about either townreading HoldenGolden or not wanting to lynch HoldenGolden. It feels like once there were obstacles put in the way, Eywa- no longer wanted to lynch/cared about lynching HoldenGolden. Why would town be like this? If anything, town would push even harder for a lynch on his "naked mafia" read. Whereas mafia is much more inclined to drop it and look for a different, easier target. ShoCkeyy + Show Spoiler +Fecalfeast + Show Spoiler +Honestly this is just due to feelings. But here: On August 10 2020 08:14 Fecalfeast wrote: Of the three active non-LS people so far this is the order I would rank them from towniest to scummiest eywa
cheesecake
holden
I can't read LS because I think everything he says is scummy because he doesn't really understand subtext if I remember correctly it has been a while.
Trfel pings towny to me for his early questions but honestly meh otherwise
nobody reads overly scummy to me. The only reason holden is on the bottom of my short list is because their posts seem forced and overly aggressive IMHO. I get they're an offsite player though so who know what they do over there.
vivax we will have to wait and see. I like that he found a non-obvious post to make a read on and one I also liked to boot. This post doesn't actually say much. He puts Eywa- townier than Mr. Cheesecake and Mr. Cheesecake townier than HoldenGolden, but only relative to each other. It's super non-committal and not very useful. Four times in this short post he says something to the effect of "I could be wrong," "I'm not sure," or "we'll have to wait and see." Feels very disengaged from the thread. Instead of driving or pushing things, he's just saying what looks good and what looks bad. It doesn't feel like he cares to find mafia, just evaluate what things look like. Nothing insightful. He's not even posting videos or showing interest in the game. Fecalfeast as town is much better than this. I still need to figure out who I want to vote for most, but I'd definitely like to vote within these three. They are nice takes. But that's not very alliterative
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On August 11 2020 04:47 Fecalfeast wrote: I'm town 😎 I disagree.
Got any reads?
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On August 11 2020 04:48 Trfel wrote:I disagree. Got any reads? Not since yesterday I'm at work still
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On August 11 2020 04:23 Vivax wrote:Show nested quote +On August 11 2020 04:21 Trfel wrote:Terrible Takes by TrfelTown LeanLightningStrike + Show Spoiler +Mostly a gut read, but two more reasons. First, he's made the most posts in the thread so far, which (much) more often than not makes someone town, especially in a low-activity game like this. And second, his worry about the lack of activity in the game feels genuine. It's not a very strong read, but I'd bet on it if I had to. Mr. Cheesecake + Show Spoiler +I still feel a bit bugged by how he played earlier in the game, but since then he's been investigating things and more importantly, he's been pushing his reads. In a low-activity game like this, there is less incentive for mafia to push reads. Despite the aforementioned things that I don't like, the rest of his play feels towny and investigative. HoldenGolden + Show Spoiler +While LightningStrike has provided the most posts in this game, HoldenGolden has provided the most content in this game. He's been probing and poking everyone and seems to genuinely be trying to figure out the game. NullGTacc Vivax Mafia LeanEywa- + Show Spoiler +His post on HoldenGolden, sharing his suspicions of him, that later vanished into thin air. It was his most explained and serious read, and seems to have taken a decent amount of effort to read a previous game and compare. And note that later, he even mentions who he wants to lynch but can't (GTacc). If he's still scumreading HoldenGolden, why wouldn't he be in this category? Or if something changed, why not say what changed? The only thing I can think of that caused this is in the time between these two linked posts, several people posted about either townreading HoldenGolden or not wanting to lynch HoldenGolden. It feels like once there were obstacles put in the way, Eywa- no longer wanted to lynch/cared about lynching HoldenGolden. Why would town be like this? If anything, town would push even harder for a lynch on his "naked mafia" read. Whereas mafia is much more inclined to drop it and look for a different, easier target. ShoCkeyy + Show Spoiler +Fecalfeast + Show Spoiler +Honestly this is just due to feelings. But here: On August 10 2020 08:14 Fecalfeast wrote: Of the three active non-LS people so far this is the order I would rank them from towniest to scummiest eywa
cheesecake
holden
I can't read LS because I think everything he says is scummy because he doesn't really understand subtext if I remember correctly it has been a while.
Trfel pings towny to me for his early questions but honestly meh otherwise
nobody reads overly scummy to me. The only reason holden is on the bottom of my short list is because their posts seem forced and overly aggressive IMHO. I get they're an offsite player though so who know what they do over there.
vivax we will have to wait and see. I like that he found a non-obvious post to make a read on and one I also liked to boot. This post doesn't actually say much. He puts Eywa- townier than Mr. Cheesecake and Mr. Cheesecake townier than HoldenGolden, but only relative to each other. It's super non-committal and not very useful. Four times in this short post he says something to the effect of "I could be wrong," "I'm not sure," or "we'll have to wait and see." Feels very disengaged from the thread. Instead of driving or pushing things, he's just saying what looks good and what looks bad. It doesn't feel like he cares to find mafia, just evaluate what things look like. Nothing insightful. He's not even posting videos or showing interest in the game. Fecalfeast as town is much better than this. I still need to figure out who I want to vote for most, but I'd definitely like to vote within these three. They are nice takes.
Trfel obviously didn't read more into it because I actually called myself out on that very exact thing he's saying I'm mafia for.
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On August 11 2020 04:47 Fecalfeast wrote: I'm town 😎 I believe you.
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On August 11 2020 04:52 ShoCkeyy wrote:Show nested quote +On August 11 2020 04:23 Vivax wrote:On August 11 2020 04:21 Trfel wrote:Terrible Takes by TrfelTown LeanLightningStrike + Show Spoiler +Mostly a gut read, but two more reasons. First, he's made the most posts in the thread so far, which (much) more often than not makes someone town, especially in a low-activity game like this. And second, his worry about the lack of activity in the game feels genuine. It's not a very strong read, but I'd bet on it if I had to. Mr. Cheesecake + Show Spoiler +I still feel a bit bugged by how he played earlier in the game, but since then he's been investigating things and more importantly, he's been pushing his reads. In a low-activity game like this, there is less incentive for mafia to push reads. Despite the aforementioned things that I don't like, the rest of his play feels towny and investigative. HoldenGolden + Show Spoiler +While LightningStrike has provided the most posts in this game, HoldenGolden has provided the most content in this game. He's been probing and poking everyone and seems to genuinely be trying to figure out the game. NullGTacc Vivax Mafia LeanEywa- + Show Spoiler +His post on HoldenGolden, sharing his suspicions of him, that later vanished into thin air. It was his most explained and serious read, and seems to have taken a decent amount of effort to read a previous game and compare. And note that later, he even mentions who he wants to lynch but can't (GTacc). If he's still scumreading HoldenGolden, why wouldn't he be in this category? Or if something changed, why not say what changed? The only thing I can think of that caused this is in the time between these two linked posts, several people posted about either townreading HoldenGolden or not wanting to lynch HoldenGolden. It feels like once there were obstacles put in the way, Eywa- no longer wanted to lynch/cared about lynching HoldenGolden. Why would town be like this? If anything, town would push even harder for a lynch on his "naked mafia" read. Whereas mafia is much more inclined to drop it and look for a different, easier target. ShoCkeyy + Show Spoiler +Fecalfeast + Show Spoiler +Honestly this is just due to feelings. But here: On August 10 2020 08:14 Fecalfeast wrote: Of the three active non-LS people so far this is the order I would rank them from towniest to scummiest eywa
cheesecake
holden
I can't read LS because I think everything he says is scummy because he doesn't really understand subtext if I remember correctly it has been a while.
Trfel pings towny to me for his early questions but honestly meh otherwise
nobody reads overly scummy to me. The only reason holden is on the bottom of my short list is because their posts seem forced and overly aggressive IMHO. I get they're an offsite player though so who know what they do over there.
vivax we will have to wait and see. I like that he found a non-obvious post to make a read on and one I also liked to boot. This post doesn't actually say much. He puts Eywa- townier than Mr. Cheesecake and Mr. Cheesecake townier than HoldenGolden, but only relative to each other. It's super non-committal and not very useful. Four times in this short post he says something to the effect of "I could be wrong," "I'm not sure," or "we'll have to wait and see." Feels very disengaged from the thread. Instead of driving or pushing things, he's just saying what looks good and what looks bad. It doesn't feel like he cares to find mafia, just evaluate what things look like. Nothing insightful. He's not even posting videos or showing interest in the game. Fecalfeast as town is much better than this. I still need to figure out who I want to vote for most, but I'd definitely like to vote within these three. They are nice takes. Trfel obviously didn't read more into it because I actually called myself out on that very exact thing he's saying I'm mafia for. trfel's post is actually decent, because I was thinking along the same lines, but then I'm like, wait a minute, Shockey would have to basically be with exactly FecalFeast or GTacc, and then I'm like, yeh, that's probably wrong, let's kill in what other players describe as "null".
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On August 09 2020 15:01 ShoCkeyy wrote:Show nested quote +On August 09 2020 13:36 Trfel wrote:On August 09 2020 11:56 HoldenGolden wrote: 1) he said it in the same sentence that he was answering my question about the voting thread. Therefore, it came off as if he was speaking to me still.
2) Mostly to get the ball rolling; there's no specific AI reason yet. Thanks, that makes sense. I see now. When people look into openings too hard, it gives me the jeebies.
Who gave you the jeebies?
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On August 11 2020 04:56 Vivax wrote:Show nested quote +On August 09 2020 15:01 ShoCkeyy wrote:On August 09 2020 13:36 Trfel wrote:On August 09 2020 11:56 HoldenGolden wrote: 1) he said it in the same sentence that he was answering my question about the voting thread. Therefore, it came off as if he was speaking to me still.
2) Mostly to get the ball rolling; there's no specific AI reason yet. Thanks, that makes sense. I see now. When people look into openings too hard, it gives me the jeebies. Who gave you the jeebies? You give me the jeebies
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On August 11 2020 04:52 ShoCkeyy wrote:Show nested quote +On August 11 2020 04:23 Vivax wrote:On August 11 2020 04:21 Trfel wrote:Terrible Takes by TrfelTown LeanLightningStrike + Show Spoiler +Mostly a gut read, but two more reasons. First, he's made the most posts in the thread so far, which (much) more often than not makes someone town, especially in a low-activity game like this. And second, his worry about the lack of activity in the game feels genuine. It's not a very strong read, but I'd bet on it if I had to. Mr. Cheesecake + Show Spoiler +I still feel a bit bugged by how he played earlier in the game, but since then he's been investigating things and more importantly, he's been pushing his reads. In a low-activity game like this, there is less incentive for mafia to push reads. Despite the aforementioned things that I don't like, the rest of his play feels towny and investigative. HoldenGolden + Show Spoiler +While LightningStrike has provided the most posts in this game, HoldenGolden has provided the most content in this game. He's been probing and poking everyone and seems to genuinely be trying to figure out the game. NullGTacc Vivax Mafia LeanEywa- + Show Spoiler +His post on HoldenGolden, sharing his suspicions of him, that later vanished into thin air. It was his most explained and serious read, and seems to have taken a decent amount of effort to read a previous game and compare. And note that later, he even mentions who he wants to lynch but can't (GTacc). If he's still scumreading HoldenGolden, why wouldn't he be in this category? Or if something changed, why not say what changed? The only thing I can think of that caused this is in the time between these two linked posts, several people posted about either townreading HoldenGolden or not wanting to lynch HoldenGolden. It feels like once there were obstacles put in the way, Eywa- no longer wanted to lynch/cared about lynching HoldenGolden. Why would town be like this? If anything, town would push even harder for a lynch on his "naked mafia" read. Whereas mafia is much more inclined to drop it and look for a different, easier target. ShoCkeyy + Show Spoiler +Fecalfeast + Show Spoiler +Honestly this is just due to feelings. But here: On August 10 2020 08:14 Fecalfeast wrote: Of the three active non-LS people so far this is the order I would rank them from towniest to scummiest eywa
cheesecake
holden
I can't read LS because I think everything he says is scummy because he doesn't really understand subtext if I remember correctly it has been a while.
Trfel pings towny to me for his early questions but honestly meh otherwise
nobody reads overly scummy to me. The only reason holden is on the bottom of my short list is because their posts seem forced and overly aggressive IMHO. I get they're an offsite player though so who know what they do over there.
vivax we will have to wait and see. I like that he found a non-obvious post to make a read on and one I also liked to boot. This post doesn't actually say much. He puts Eywa- townier than Mr. Cheesecake and Mr. Cheesecake townier than HoldenGolden, but only relative to each other. It's super non-committal and not very useful. Four times in this short post he says something to the effect of "I could be wrong," "I'm not sure," or "we'll have to wait and see." Feels very disengaged from the thread. Instead of driving or pushing things, he's just saying what looks good and what looks bad. It doesn't feel like he cares to find mafia, just evaluate what things look like. Nothing insightful. He's not even posting videos or showing interest in the game. Fecalfeast as town is much better than this. I still need to figure out who I want to vote for most, but I'd definitely like to vote within these three. They are nice takes. Trfel obviously didn't read more into it because I actually called myself out on that very exact thing he's saying I'm mafia for. I know you mentioned it. Doesn't make it not suspicious 
But I think currently I'm more suspicious of the other two anyway.
Got any reads?
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On August 11 2020 04:58 Trfel wrote:Show nested quote +On August 11 2020 04:52 ShoCkeyy wrote:On August 11 2020 04:23 Vivax wrote:On August 11 2020 04:21 Trfel wrote:Terrible Takes by TrfelTown LeanLightningStrike + Show Spoiler +Mostly a gut read, but two more reasons. First, he's made the most posts in the thread so far, which (much) more often than not makes someone town, especially in a low-activity game like this. And second, his worry about the lack of activity in the game feels genuine. It's not a very strong read, but I'd bet on it if I had to. Mr. Cheesecake + Show Spoiler +I still feel a bit bugged by how he played earlier in the game, but since then he's been investigating things and more importantly, he's been pushing his reads. In a low-activity game like this, there is less incentive for mafia to push reads. Despite the aforementioned things that I don't like, the rest of his play feels towny and investigative. HoldenGolden + Show Spoiler +While LightningStrike has provided the most posts in this game, HoldenGolden has provided the most content in this game. He's been probing and poking everyone and seems to genuinely be trying to figure out the game. NullGTacc Vivax Mafia LeanEywa- + Show Spoiler +His post on HoldenGolden, sharing his suspicions of him, that later vanished into thin air. It was his most explained and serious read, and seems to have taken a decent amount of effort to read a previous game and compare. And note that later, he even mentions who he wants to lynch but can't (GTacc). If he's still scumreading HoldenGolden, why wouldn't he be in this category? Or if something changed, why not say what changed? The only thing I can think of that caused this is in the time between these two linked posts, several people posted about either townreading HoldenGolden or not wanting to lynch HoldenGolden. It feels like once there were obstacles put in the way, Eywa- no longer wanted to lynch/cared about lynching HoldenGolden. Why would town be like this? If anything, town would push even harder for a lynch on his "naked mafia" read. Whereas mafia is much more inclined to drop it and look for a different, easier target. ShoCkeyy + Show Spoiler +Fecalfeast + Show Spoiler +Honestly this is just due to feelings. But here: On August 10 2020 08:14 Fecalfeast wrote: Of the three active non-LS people so far this is the order I would rank them from towniest to scummiest eywa
cheesecake
holden
I can't read LS because I think everything he says is scummy because he doesn't really understand subtext if I remember correctly it has been a while.
Trfel pings towny to me for his early questions but honestly meh otherwise
nobody reads overly scummy to me. The only reason holden is on the bottom of my short list is because their posts seem forced and overly aggressive IMHO. I get they're an offsite player though so who know what they do over there.
vivax we will have to wait and see. I like that he found a non-obvious post to make a read on and one I also liked to boot. This post doesn't actually say much. He puts Eywa- townier than Mr. Cheesecake and Mr. Cheesecake townier than HoldenGolden, but only relative to each other. It's super non-committal and not very useful. Four times in this short post he says something to the effect of "I could be wrong," "I'm not sure," or "we'll have to wait and see." Feels very disengaged from the thread. Instead of driving or pushing things, he's just saying what looks good and what looks bad. It doesn't feel like he cares to find mafia, just evaluate what things look like. Nothing insightful. He's not even posting videos or showing interest in the game. Fecalfeast as town is much better than this. I still need to figure out who I want to vote for most, but I'd definitely like to vote within these three. They are nice takes. Trfel obviously didn't read more into it because I actually called myself out on that very exact thing he's saying I'm mafia for. I know you mentioned it. Doesn't make it not suspicious  But I think currently I'm more suspicious of the other two anyway. Got any reads? Kek
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Eywa-, what do you think about HoldenGolden?
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On August 11 2020 04:52 ShoCkeyy wrote:Show nested quote +On August 11 2020 04:23 Vivax wrote:On August 11 2020 04:21 Trfel wrote:Terrible Takes by TrfelTown LeanLightningStrike + Show Spoiler +Mostly a gut read, but two more reasons. First, he's made the most posts in the thread so far, which (much) more often than not makes someone town, especially in a low-activity game like this. And second, his worry about the lack of activity in the game feels genuine. It's not a very strong read, but I'd bet on it if I had to. Mr. Cheesecake + Show Spoiler +I still feel a bit bugged by how he played earlier in the game, but since then he's been investigating things and more importantly, he's been pushing his reads. In a low-activity game like this, there is less incentive for mafia to push reads. Despite the aforementioned things that I don't like, the rest of his play feels towny and investigative. HoldenGolden + Show Spoiler +While LightningStrike has provided the most posts in this game, HoldenGolden has provided the most content in this game. He's been probing and poking everyone and seems to genuinely be trying to figure out the game. NullGTacc Vivax Mafia LeanEywa- + Show Spoiler +His post on HoldenGolden, sharing his suspicions of him, that later vanished into thin air. It was his most explained and serious read, and seems to have taken a decent amount of effort to read a previous game and compare. And note that later, he even mentions who he wants to lynch but can't (GTacc). If he's still scumreading HoldenGolden, why wouldn't he be in this category? Or if something changed, why not say what changed? The only thing I can think of that caused this is in the time between these two linked posts, several people posted about either townreading HoldenGolden or not wanting to lynch HoldenGolden. It feels like once there were obstacles put in the way, Eywa- no longer wanted to lynch/cared about lynching HoldenGolden. Why would town be like this? If anything, town would push even harder for a lynch on his "naked mafia" read. Whereas mafia is much more inclined to drop it and look for a different, easier target. ShoCkeyy + Show Spoiler +Fecalfeast + Show Spoiler +Honestly this is just due to feelings. But here: On August 10 2020 08:14 Fecalfeast wrote: Of the three active non-LS people so far this is the order I would rank them from towniest to scummiest eywa
cheesecake
holden
I can't read LS because I think everything he says is scummy because he doesn't really understand subtext if I remember correctly it has been a while.
Trfel pings towny to me for his early questions but honestly meh otherwise
nobody reads overly scummy to me. The only reason holden is on the bottom of my short list is because their posts seem forced and overly aggressive IMHO. I get they're an offsite player though so who know what they do over there.
vivax we will have to wait and see. I like that he found a non-obvious post to make a read on and one I also liked to boot. This post doesn't actually say much. He puts Eywa- townier than Mr. Cheesecake and Mr. Cheesecake townier than HoldenGolden, but only relative to each other. It's super non-committal and not very useful. Four times in this short post he says something to the effect of "I could be wrong," "I'm not sure," or "we'll have to wait and see." Feels very disengaged from the thread. Instead of driving or pushing things, he's just saying what looks good and what looks bad. It doesn't feel like he cares to find mafia, just evaluate what things look like. Nothing insightful. He's not even posting videos or showing interest in the game. Fecalfeast as town is much better than this. I still need to figure out who I want to vote for most, but I'd definitely like to vote within these three. They are nice takes. Trfel obviously didn't read more into it because I actually called myself out on that very exact thing he's saying I'm mafia for.
I don't know what you called yourself out. I know you called Trfel bad not much else. But really, I'm not sold you're mafia, but then why do you seem to think it's just townies voting you (Trfel, CC)?
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On August 11 2020 05:00 Trfel wrote: Eywa-, what do you think about HoldenGolden? Thinking about HoldenGolden today is an exercise in futility, I've decided not to do it.
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On August 11 2020 05:01 Eywa- wrote:Show nested quote +On August 11 2020 05:00 Trfel wrote: Eywa-, what do you think about HoldenGolden? Thinking about HoldenGolden today is an exercise in futility, I've decided not to do it.
Enthusiastic entrance, I don't know about his reads atm. Leaning town tho.
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On August 11 2020 05:03 Vivax wrote:Show nested quote +On August 11 2020 05:01 Eywa- wrote:On August 11 2020 05:00 Trfel wrote: Eywa-, what do you think about HoldenGolden? Thinking about HoldenGolden today is an exercise in futility, I've decided not to do it. Enthusiastic entrance, I don't know about his reads atm. Leaning town tho. I mean, sure... But twice reminders that he's busy / tired + half-assed reads that mainly apply to himself as much as his push + a claim that he moved sites to change his meta + AtE based on that meta change "This is just like MS, I always get lynched".
I mean, yikes. really sounds like someone who's trying to work on their town game you know?
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There's something off about it, I'm just not decided on it being mafia... It might just be a style thing.
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Votecount:
Vivax (2) - Shockeyy, Eywa- Shockeyy (2) - FecalFeast, Mr. Cheesecake LightningStrike (1) - HoldenGolden
It takes 5 votes to lynch.
until the next official votecount.
until the game ends.
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Have you found a way of explaining why you're voting for me eywa?
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On August 11 2020 05:45 Vivax wrote: Have you found a way of explaining why you're voting for me eywa? This is a weird angle for town!vivax to take towards his top scum read 4hrs pre-eod... I mean, we need a decisive vote, I would like for it to be on vivax, but I will switch to ShoCkey if you guys insist.
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