[M][N] Holy Guardians - Cpt 3 - Page 19

On July 08 2020 19:41 VisceraEyes wrote:

Don't lie to the boy.

Ticktock you do you frand, if you wanna vote for VE uselessly then you go right ahead. Its your vote and yours to waste. <3

On July 09 2020 16:08 CopCake wrote:
Shockey I am glad you are here. Tell me, did you consider Tfrl to be active last game? Why do you think he is getting lunched by the citizens?

On July 09 2020 16:52 Jockmcplop wrote:


shockeyy can you explain to me as if i'm a small moronic being (a child) how you came to this conclusion?

On July 10 2020 00:13 raynpelikoneet wrote:

First i am gonna say something about this. I don't really think your case on TT is good at all. From what i see you're accusing him of the following things:

(1) I don't really think there is anything scummy in this train of thought? I mean like he is just saying what you did and i can easily see how someone thinks that makes another person mafia. I don't think it makes you mafia but that's what you did yourself and it IS contradictory whether you like it or not.
(2) Really off or not but once again, that's what you did. I still have no clue of why you think TT is mafia besides "don't trust TT as town" (which doesn't really mean anything) and this post i quoted from you (which i understand none of). And him making a case on you. But the case is definitely not scummy. It can be wrong sure but it definitely does not make TT mafia.

Him forgetting Chezinu is not scummy ever because as Jock said it doesn't even make any sense as mafia. Like there is no reason he should ever think he can gain something by lying about that as mafia regardeless of Chezinu's team.

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Another thing i wanted to talk about is Shockeyy. I don't really think Jock's case makes Shockeyy mafia. (I do though think it probably makes Jock town so something good there ). I think you're looking "similar" things in "wrong" perspective. Imo you cannot compare vote count analysis from D1 to other days (which you were doing) because you don't know any alignments, so basically the VCA D1 is a crapshot. Now you are right that it is indeed weird Shockeyy is doign that with ONE vote on several people, and i definitely would want to hear his logic behind this.

However, aside fro mthis, i think how shockeyy handled the after-drunken-posting (when he returned) in a really townie way. I don't think he overplayed anything and basically shockeyy's jam D1 is that D1 is useless and he can't have any reads. I think he is playing "towards that" fairly "well", and it fits his town MO imo. I got a small nagging feeling about him actually having town reads so early but that's pretty much all that i think could possibly make shockeyy mafia. But yeah, let's play this a bit further:

Shockeyy you said this:

So you think you are town (obviously), that leaves me, Chezinu and Trfel as the people who are not voting. Why cannot Trfel and Chezinu be mafia together (assuming you think i am town)?

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Firstly, i have to say that i think there is no reason why Trfel's scumbuddy isn't possibly voting for him right now assuming Trfel is mafia. Votes on him (aside from me and maybe Chezinu?) are basically because he is inactive. That's easy to fix, Trfel just starts posting and you can take off the vote on your scumbuddy. No harm done.

However i actually do think Trfel's post in itself looks like a mafia post. Basically i see Trfel as paerson who investigates things and asks questions because there is some sort of contradiction to his own thought process of how things should go and he tries to figure out what the person thinks and if it makes sense or not. See for example him questioning Cake last game at the start of the game.

This post though:

...doesn't reall show any of this. First of all the whole question i nthe first place about TT is really stupid and shows no thinking behind it at all. Because TT was fucking mafia in the last game!!!! Trfel thinking TT was town last game doesn't mean shit because Trfel was WRONG and if TT is town this game, there FOR SURE is a difference in his play (regardless of if anyone can notice it or not at that point). Like the whole question feels like a throwaway thing based on no thinking at all. It just.... doesn't make any sense to me that THIS is what Trfel has to say when he comes and posts. Coming in late makes it more likely you make mistakes as mafia, and i think Trfel made on here.

Also a smaller point is that yeah, as i said earlier, people who feel the need to tell that they forgot about the game starting (regardless of if it is true or not) are more likely to be mafia. That's a fact. No matter when you start posting there should be no reason for a townie to feel the need to explain why they haven't been posting so far.

On July 10 2020 01:46 ShoCkeyy wrote:
Lol cop wtf is that vote, I suspected Jock to vote for me not you to vote for me...

On July 09 2020 03:38 Alakaslam wrote:

Finger of suspicion

Like he has thrown a lotta shade for D1

On July 10 2020 01:53 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Two things here.

I don't think Trfel's post is townie. I don't believe he doesn't investigate TT based on meta (based on his first question in game to me) but randomly does that on Slam. I think he is trying to find a lynch and not mafia.

Shockeyy just voted a person who is his scumread's (Jock) suspect over someone else.