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Jockmcplop
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United Kingdom9959 Posts
July 09 2020 14:10 GMT
#341
On July 09 2020 23:02 CopCake wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 09 2020 02:43 ShoCkeyy wrote:
I don't have a circle yet, I am my own circle, and I don't trust anybody to enter my circle just yet. However, I do have a few maybes. Rayn, TT, and yourself seem town this game although rayn and TT were mafia last game >:O ##vote rayn

Jock leans more scum to me and it's not because he voted for me straight up. . . maybe a little, but it's really more about how he "tried" to pressure me while I was gone from posting for the day.


It doesnt make sense for him to pocket you with the whole vote thing and call you mafia imo.


I don't think he's trying to pocket me, I think he's just trying to get me to stop suspecting him. Eliminate the suspicion by doing the thing he knows i'm looking for in town shockeyy..
RIP Meatloaf <3
CopCake
Profile Joined August 2015
4378 Posts
July 09 2020 14:22 GMT
#342
Ticktock Thinks VE used his post to vote for slam
Shades Shockey
Gives me a town pass in the middle of the dirk gently talk
Votes for VE
More shade at shockey
Slam is town
Cake is mafia because she speaks random shit but slam also does the same

Nope.
CopCake
Profile Joined August 2015
4378 Posts
July 09 2020 14:24 GMT
#343
On July 09 2020 23:10 Jockmcplop wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 09 2020 23:02 CopCake wrote:
On July 09 2020 02:43 ShoCkeyy wrote:
I don't have a circle yet, I am my own circle, and I don't trust anybody to enter my circle just yet. However, I do have a few maybes. Rayn, TT, and yourself seem town this game although rayn and TT were mafia last game >:O ##vote rayn

Jock leans more scum to me and it's not because he voted for me straight up. . . maybe a little, but it's really more about how he "tried" to pressure me while I was gone from posting for the day.


It doesnt make sense for him to pocket you with the whole vote thing and call you mafia imo.


I don't think he's trying to pocket me, I think he's just trying to get me to stop suspecting him. Eliminate the suspicion by doing the thing he knows i'm looking for in town shockeyy..


Ok, since I am active and I doubt I’ll do something else I will vote Shockey for pressure.

I doubt I will get my TT lynch so
VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21171 Posts
July 09 2020 14:49 GMT
#344
On July 09 2020 17:33 Jockmcplop wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 09 2020 17:25 CopCake wrote:
I am going to wait for him to see his defense but I agree with you on that or at least I like your pov.


I'd like to know what VE thinks about it too, considering he was on slam before and now they are on trfel together. VE's vote on slam was an early randomish vote but he continued to suspect him, or at least shade his reads, later on too.

I have a strong reason to sus shockeyy right now but i want to wait until he explains the post i quoted above.

I can't get a good read on ticktock but tbh i don't agree with your reason for sussing him. I'm like 90% sure you're town anyway.

It's sus.
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21171 Posts
July 09 2020 14:50 GMT
#345
Yeah Im with switch to slam
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
CopCake
Profile Joined August 2015
4378 Posts
July 09 2020 15:04 GMT
#346
why the change of heart?
Hapahauli
Profile Joined May 2009
United States9305 Posts
July 09 2020 15:07 GMT
#347
Vote Count:


Trfel (3): Alakaslam, Chezinu, Raynpelikoneet

Shockeyy (2): Jockmcplop, Copcake

CopCake (1): Tictock
Alakaslam (1): VisceraEyes

Not Voting (2): Shockeyy, Trfel

Trfel is currently set to be lynched.

Votes are not counted unless posted in the Voting Thread!
Voting is mandatory!



Plurality Lynch: The person with the most votes gets lynched. in the event of a tie, the player that first received enough votes will be lynched.
until deadline.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
July 09 2020 15:13 GMT
#348
On July 09 2020 23:22 CopCake wrote:
Ticktock Thinks VE used his post to vote for slam
Shades Shockey
Gives me a town pass in the middle of the dirk gently talk
Votes for VE
More shade at shockey
Slam is town
Cake is mafia because she speaks random shit but slam also does the same

Nope.

First i am gonna say something about this. I don't really think your case on TT is good at all. From what i see you're accusing him of the following things:
(1) Last few posts she is fighting against Trfel being lynched because "he was inactive and town last game" yet here she has him as mafia (and this was after his post) as well as Chez. So basically the 2 most inactive ppl this game.

(2) Her scumread on me is also really off. Like it reads more like she decided to push me and just keeps saying "I dont buy him being town" or "this feels off" but never explains.

(1) I don't really think there is anything scummy in this train of thought? I mean like he is just saying what you did and i can easily see how someone thinks that makes another person mafia. I don't think it makes you mafia but that's what you did yourself and it IS contradictory whether you like it or not.
(2) Really off or not but once again, that's what you did. I still have no clue of why you think TT is mafia besides "don't trust TT as town" (which doesn't really mean anything) and this post i quoted from you (which i understand none of). And him making a case on you. But the case is definitely not scummy. It can be wrong sure but it definitely does not make TT mafia.

Him forgetting Chezinu is not scummy ever because as Jock said it doesn't even make any sense as mafia. Like there is no reason he should ever think he can gain something by lying about that as mafia regardeless of Chezinu's team.




Another thing i wanted to talk about is Shockeyy. I don't really think Jock's case makes Shockeyy mafia. (I do though think it probably makes Jock town so something good there ). I think you're looking "similar" things in "wrong" perspective. Imo you cannot compare vote count analysis from D1 to other days (which you were doing) because you don't know any alignments, so basically the VCA D1 is a crapshot. Now you are right that it is indeed weird Shockeyy is doign that with ONE vote on several people, and i definitely would want to hear his logic behind this.

However, aside fro mthis, i think how shockeyy handled the after-drunken-posting (when he returned) in a really townie way. I don't think he overplayed anything and basically shockeyy's jam D1 is that D1 is useless and he can't have any reads. I think he is playing "towards that" fairly "well", and it fits his town MO imo. I got a small nagging feeling about him actually having town reads so early but that's pretty much all that i think could possibly make shockeyy mafia. But yeah, let's play this a bit further:

Shockeyy you said this:
On July 09 2020 07:32 ShoCkeyy wrote:
My current thoughts are:

Alakaslam (1): VisceraEyes
Shockeyy (1): Jockmcplop
VisceraEyes (1): Tictock
Tictock (1): Copcake
jockmcplop (1): Alakaslam

One of these fuckers are mafia 100%.

I meant the ones voting.

So you think you are town (obviously), that leaves me, Chezinu and Trfel as the people who are not voting. Why cannot Trfel and Chezinu be mafia together (assuming you think i am town)?




Firstly, i have to say that i think there is no reason why Trfel's scumbuddy isn't possibly voting for him right now assuming Trfel is mafia. Votes on him (aside from me and maybe Chezinu?) are basically because he is inactive. That's easy to fix, Trfel just starts posting and you can take off the vote on your scumbuddy. No harm done.

However i actually do think Trfel's post in itself looks like a mafia post. Basically i see Trfel as paerson who investigates things and asks questions because there is some sort of contradiction to his own thought process of how things should go and he tries to figure out what the person thinks and if it makes sense or not. See for example him questioning Cake last game at the start of the game.

This post though:
On July 09 2020 01:57 Trfel wrote:
Completely forgot about this game.

Show nested quote +
On July 08 2020 18:44 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Well TT is town so there is that. I think there is a huge difference already in how he approaches the game in comparison to the last game.
I thought Tictock was pretty towny last game, care to explain this?

...doesn't reall show any of this. First of all the whole question i nthe first place about TT is really stupid and shows no thinking behind it at all. Because TT was fucking mafia in the last game!!!! Trfel thinking TT was town last game doesn't mean shit because Trfel was WRONG and if TT is town this game, there FOR SURE is a difference in his play (regardless of if anyone can notice it or not at that point). Like the whole question feels like a throwaway thing based on no thinking at all. It just.... doesn't make any sense to me that THIS is what Trfel has to say when he comes and posts. Coming in late makes it more likely you make mistakes as mafia, and i think Trfel made on here.

Also a smaller point is that yeah, as i said earlier, people who feel the need to tell that they forgot about the game starting (regardless of if it is true or not) are more likely to be mafia. That's a fact. No matter when you start posting there should be no reason for a townie to feel the need to explain why they haven't been posting so far.
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CopCake
Profile Joined August 2015
4378 Posts
July 09 2020 15:43 GMT
#349
I honestly don't feel like lynching Tfrl, not since last game <___<

I kinda like the theory of Tfrl scum partner voting for him but that to be true needs to be someone that he doesn't know since I think Tfrl just for education and for "guilt" would try to post and don't leave his partner alone.

So if Tfrl is mafia is more likely that VE is mafia with him.
CopCake
Profile Joined August 2015
4378 Posts
July 09 2020 16:00 GMT
#350
Really no one is going to post?

Agfhsjsjsjwiwjsjksjsdjdj

This is a fucking game of lurkers, some because are actually busy, others because things are going their way.

VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21171 Posts
July 09 2020 16:09 GMT
#351
I'm at work

I made my intentions known
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
Trfel
Profile Joined August 2011
7015 Posts
July 09 2020 16:14 GMT
#352
I'm here.

I just can't find motivation Really sorry, you guys deserved better.

Let me know if there are any questions for me, otherwise I'll read as many filters as I can before the deadline. Today is pretty busy for me so I'll have to leave after that, I should have more time to play tonight though.
CopCake
Profile Joined August 2015
4378 Posts
July 09 2020 16:16 GMT
#353
On July 10 2020 01:14 Trfel wrote:
I'm here.

I just can't find motivation Really sorry, you guys deserved better.

Let me know if there are any questions for me, otherwise I'll read as many filters as I can before the deadline. Today is pretty busy for me so I'll have to leave after that, I should have more time to play tonight though.


the deadline is less than an hr!!!
ShoCkeyy
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
7815 Posts
July 09 2020 16:21 GMT
#354
I just woke up. Catching up.
Life?
Jockmcplop
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United Kingdom9959 Posts
July 09 2020 16:27 GMT
#355
On July 10 2020 01:14 Trfel wrote:
I'm here.

I just can't find motivation Really sorry, you guys deserved better.

Let me know if there are any questions for me, otherwise I'll read as many filters as I can before the deadline. Today is pretty busy for me so I'll have to leave after that, I should have more time to play tonight though.


If you have a PR please claim. Can't really say much else your game is about to end :/
RIP Meatloaf <3
CopCake
Profile Joined August 2015
4378 Posts
July 09 2020 16:31 GMT
#356
I just want to say that Jock is forever town and no one should touch him.

Never trust:

Ticktock, VE, Slam, Tfrl, Chezinu.

Not completely sold with the Shockey as mafia.
VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21171 Posts
July 09 2020 16:33 GMT
#357
Why cake?
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21171 Posts
July 09 2020 16:33 GMT
#358
You know what, I don't care. I tried, I've been here more than most, if you don't want to trust me then don't.
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21171 Posts
July 09 2020 16:34 GMT
#359
She says never trust slam but I'm voting slam. Fuck off for real.
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
CopCake
Profile Joined August 2015
4378 Posts
July 09 2020 16:36 GMT
#360
On July 10 2020 01:33 VisceraEyes wrote:
You know what, I don't care. I tried, I've been here more than most, if you don't want to trust me then don't.


You are not "clear" to me. With the Rayn read that Tfrl is mafia, the only person I associate him to be mafia with is you.

No reason to get mad at me for suspecting you, specially since I am not voting you.

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