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Zey
Profile Joined May 2020
Finland64 Posts
June 02 2020 16:04 GMT
#121
Well I don't remember that rayn would suspect back if you suspect him? So I don't think suspecting rayn would be dangerous thing to do as scum. I mean if you screw up then there's good chance that he will tunnel you but he doesn't tunnel without any reason.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22405 Posts
June 02 2020 16:20 GMT
#122
On June 02 2020 23:42 Jockmcplop wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 02 2020 20:59 Vivax wrote:
On June 02 2020 15:01 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On June 02 2020 14:50 Vivax wrote:
In this game i won‘t let you think that i think you are mafia.

what you thought about figuring out about my alignment was something i hoped for after rolling maf and actually posting

I dont understand any of this.


Was a drunk post.
Anyway, good morning.

No I don't think you're scum this game. And I hoped that trying to play decently as mafia wouldn't make me so easy to townread.

On June 02 2020 14:58 Trfel wrote:
On June 02 2020 14:31 Vivax wrote:
On June 02 2020 10:58 Tictock wrote:
Guess I shouldn't feel bad about forgetting.

Is this the current pace of TL mafia?


Awkward post
Can I ask why you find this post awkward? I don't really feel it's remarkable at all, maybe even ever so slightly townish because mafia would have little incentive to post given the lack of activity.

Likely falling asleep soon.


He spent a bit too much time thinking about his own post for my taste. But could be I read too much into it.


Why hedge on this? I don't get it. Use it to pressure don't just say 'yeah i think this but i might be wrong'.


He seemed excessively self-conscious but the hedge is there because it was an early post, so I guess it can come from town if they don't know what else to talk about.
CopCake
Profile Joined August 2015
4378 Posts
June 02 2020 17:20 GMT
#123
On June 02 2020 20:20 jeekaka wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 02 2020 17:46 CopCake wrote:
I think mafia is more likely to try to look "Oh look I am working, I am trying to solve the game" and making a lot of posts without actually doing something. I understand where you and others are coming from, but for example, it feels different how you approach me and my read than the way trfl did.

Trfl feels mafia while you feel more town like.

In before "I am trying to pocket you".


Why should I think you want to pocket me?


Because I said you look more town than him, some might find that pocketing specially since you were asking me things.
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
June 02 2020 17:34 GMT
#124
On June 02 2020 22:33 Zey wrote:
Hi everyone!

Show nested quote +
On June 02 2020 18:06 raynpelikoneet wrote:
- used "that would be too scummy to be scum" defense, guess what, people who do scummy things are usually scum
- used "why are you looking at my scummy thing and not vivax' scummy thing??" defense. Who cares what vivax did if we are talking about what you did?

Do you think this is something that Cake wouldn't do as town?

I think the correct question is do i think she would do something like that as mafia and is it more likely she would, than as town? I am not completely certain but i am leaning on mafia side here. Because once again:
- i agree with jeekaka's assessment that cake is not mafia with jock, i think its almost impossible. But if she is mafia and not with jock her defense that is like "around the topic" suddenly makes sense because she isnt even lying (the first thing she started with was the "why would i townread my mafia partner bla bla"). I know jeekaka at least semi-jokingly mulled over the idea but if cake genuinely townreads jock why doesnt she just state why she does so instead of this overly defensive "why would i" bs?? Thats what i would do if i took jeekakas post seriously like cake seemed to.
- then there is the "why are you calling out me and not this other dude" thing. Again that's talking around the issue. If you did something you get called out for, you address the issue and clear it, and not flush it off by trying to talk about someone else. I dont really know why any townie would do that.

Now i am not 100% certain of my read here and i dont think i am getting more educated on the matter based on what cake says, ehich is why i followed up on it with something else. We'll see later how that pans out. Other things i dont like so far is Vivax dodging my question at least twice and shockeyy playing the dumb game with the playerlist when it has already been explained before the game start.

I dont really have issues with other people so far.
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CopCake
Profile Joined August 2015
4378 Posts
June 02 2020 17:35 GMT
#125
On June 02 2020 22:33 Zey wrote:
Hi everyone!

Show nested quote +
On June 02 2020 18:06 raynpelikoneet wrote:
- used "that would be too scummy to be scum" defense, guess what, people who do scummy things are usually scum
- used "why are you looking at my scummy thing and not vivax' scummy thing??" defense. Who cares what vivax did if we are talking about what you did?

Do you think this is something that Cake wouldn't do as town?

Cake's point about Trfel is interesting. I would also be interested to hear why did he asked about Vivax post about akwardnes but didn't ask about rolling mafia thing.


Hello, hello <3

On June 02 2020 23:21 Jockmcplop wrote:


I thought the exact same thing. I'm now going to be very wary of pocketing attempts by copcake. Very eager early townreads can go either way, but it sure makes me suspicious.


Pocketing cake! Nah, tbh I don't care how you see me, I just think you are town for the "feelings", and I feel even more confident to call you town now, for questioning me because pocketing can go both ways, "Oh, look she thinks I am town, I am going to continue and call her town too".

On June 02 2020 23:31 jeekaka wrote:
I can actually see the world where Copcake is town and Scum!Trfel sees Cake's townread of Jock as an easy thing to pick up. Cake defending that read might be consistent with them being actually sincere about it (although I still disagree, you cannot really compare two entry posts when the other is a catch up post when game has been going on for pages and the other is one of the first posts of the game).

Cannot totally shake the feeling Copcakes townreads are slightly TMIsh, but having kinda cut read that Copcake/Zey are not W/W.


What is TMIsh? Sorry.

On June 02 2020 23:35 Jockmcplop wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 02 2020 23:31 jeekaka wrote:
I can actually see the world where Copcake is town and Scum!Trfel sees Cake's townread of Jock as an easy thing to pick up. Cake defending that read might be consistent with them being actually sincere about it (although I still disagree, you cannot really compare two entry posts when the other is a catch up post when game has been going on for pages and the other is one of the first posts of the game).

Cannot totally shake the feeling Copcakes townreads are slightly TMIsh, but having kinda cut read that Copcake/Zey are not W/W.


I'm considering mostly the copcake is just looking for the reactions to her post as a way of scumhunting rather than worrying about what people are thinking. She was a reaction based player in the last game we played together.
Because of this her too scummy to be scum argument actually makes sense.

I'm still open minded about a possible pocketing attempt, but i'm more inclined to see her opening as town copcake.


TBH my read on you wasn't to get a reaction out of you or someone else, I just felt you are town because I am in the same train as you, rolled mafia many times, so it is like pls God. Ofc my read can change eventually but I like where this is going.


So hey Zey, do you think tfrl is town or not?

raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
June 02 2020 17:36 GMT
#126
On June 02 2020 19:41 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Cake:

You currently think mafia is trfel and vivax, am i correct?

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CopCake
Profile Joined August 2015
4378 Posts
June 02 2020 17:37 GMT
#127
On June 03 2020 02:34 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 02 2020 22:33 Zey wrote:
Hi everyone!

On June 02 2020 18:06 raynpelikoneet wrote:
- used "that would be too scummy to be scum" defense, guess what, people who do scummy things are usually scum
- used "why are you looking at my scummy thing and not vivax' scummy thing??" defense. Who cares what vivax did if we are talking about what you did?

Do you think this is something that Cake wouldn't do as town?

I think the correct question is do i think she would do something like that as mafia and is it more likely she would, than as town? I am not completely certain but i am leaning on mafia side here. Because once again:
- i agree with jeekaka's assessment that cake is not mafia with jock, i think its almost impossible. But if she is mafia and not with jock her defense that is like "around the topic" suddenly makes sense because she isnt even lying (the first thing she started with was the "why would i townread my mafia partner bla bla"). I know jeekaka at least semi-jokingly mulled over the idea but if cake genuinely townreads jock why doesnt she just state why she does so instead of this overly defensive "why would i" bs?? Thats what i would do if i took jeekakas post seriously like cake seemed to.
- then there is the "why are you calling out me and not this other dude" thing. Again that's talking around the issue. If you did something you get called out for, you address the issue and clear it, and not flush it off by trying to talk about someone else. I dont really know why any townie would do that.

Now i am not 100% certain of my read here and i dont think i am getting more educated on the matter based on what cake says, ehich is why i followed up on it with something else. We'll see later how that pans out. Other things i dont like so far is Vivax dodging my question at least twice and shockeyy playing the dumb game with the playerlist when it has already been explained before the game start.

I dont really have issues with other people so far.


I am so mafia it hurts.
CopCake
Profile Joined August 2015
4378 Posts
June 02 2020 17:39 GMT
#128
On June 03 2020 02:36 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 02 2020 19:41 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Cake:

You currently think mafia is trfel and vivax, am i correct?



Inclined with trfl mafia, vivax feels weird but I am not a "vivax expert". I know he broke his meta last game so I will just be wary of him.
CopCake
Profile Joined August 2015
4378 Posts
June 02 2020 17:40 GMT
#129
On June 03 2020 00:55 ShoCkeyy wrote:
I wonder who jeekaka is... 11 posts?


If you were a fish, what kind of fish would you feel like?

If the answer comes with a pic would be lovely.
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
June 02 2020 17:45 GMT
#130
On June 03 2020 02:39 CopCake wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 03 2020 02:36 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On June 02 2020 19:41 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Cake:

You currently think mafia is trfel and vivax, am i correct?



Inclined with trfl mafia, vivax feels weird but I am not a "vivax expert". I know he broke his meta last game so I will just be wary of him.

Okay lets start with this;

I cant find why you think Trfel is mafia other than he did something differently than someone else??? What does that mean and ehy does it make him mafia?

If you think Trfel is mafia why did you try to point fingers towards Vivax earlier. He btw called Trfel town out of nowhere, that's something i guess you think "mafia would never do because it's too stupid", right?
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
June 02 2020 17:47 GMT
#131
I also thought you kindish are considering yourself a vivax expert because you said you were sure he is scum last game when you read D2 when everyone and their moms weee reading vivax town??
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CopCake
Profile Joined August 2015
4378 Posts
June 02 2020 17:55 GMT
#132
On June 02 2020 17:46 CopCake wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 02 2020 16:56 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On June 02 2020 16:42 CopCake wrote:

I am never this bad as mafia on forum games,hi!

What do you mean by this?


That I would never make a post with my mafia team mate in the first couple of posts and look suspicious.

Or what do you think mafia cupcake would do if I was mafia with jock? or someone else?
Show nested quote +
On June 02 2020 17:13 jeekaka wrote:
On June 02 2020 16:42 CopCake wrote:
On June 02 2020 08:28 Trfel wrote:
Hi all Long time no see!

CopCake, I don't understand why you are townreading Jockmcplop so easily. Why couldn't he say that as mafia?


Wooooo, because I know the feeling of rolling mafia consecutive and then rolling town is fresh air, I said it. Recently of 4 games in 3 I have been mafia so being town here is like... freedom. Not to have to worry about mind games.

On June 02 2020 05:32 CopCake wrote:
On June 02 2020 04:35 Jockmcplop wrote:
On June 02 2020 04:23 CopCake wrote:
Just came to say I am town and ready to work with my fellow sushinians!


Hi Copcake. I'm happy to have rolled town for once after god knows how many mafia games in a row


I am going to read you town for this because I know the feeling.

It is mentally exhaustingggggg!!

Even if mafia is fun, many consecutive times is nope.


Ofc there is a small chance he could say that as mafia but he just came up out of nowhere which makes me feel that a town jock is more likely to say that, he feels cheerful. It feels sincere.

Now why are you like all "woooooooo why did cake say that"? I need to check if you haven't played recently BUT if you have you should know jock has been rolling mafia many times lately. I think he and vivax were in a team together last game. And then he was mafia in the game he made fun of HF with a gif.


I think that tone is really easily faked. And you cannot come to thread like "can you guys believe I rolled scum again" so it's actually also very likely thing to fake.

You so eagerly townreading him for it might be TMI or kinda subtly highlighting towniness of your own entry post where you stated you were town.

So I don't really think you are mafia together, but seems like claiming town in the first posts works as counter psychology to me :D


I honestly don't feel it fake.

I mean he even posted a song and all.

Show nested quote +
On June 02 2020 04:35 Jockmcplop wrote:
On June 02 2020 04:23 CopCake wrote:
Just came to say I am town and ready to work with my fellow sushinians!


Hi Copcake. I'm happy to have rolled town for once after god knows how many mafia games in a row


And just to re check my tone read (because everyone is questioning me this a lot) I went and surfed the first couple of posts from last game.

This was his post where he was mafia last game (in which he was scum/mafia)
https://tl.net/forum/mafia/558949-oil-futures-mafia?page=8#148

I will link you the thread.

https://tl.net/forum/mafia/558949-oil-futures-mafia?page=3
I think mafia is more likely to try to look "Oh look I am working, I am trying to solve the game" and making a lot of posts without actually doing something. I understand where you and others are coming from, but for example, it feels different how you approach me and my read than the way trfl did.

Trfl feels mafia while you feel more town like.

In before "I am trying to pocket you".



Tfrl read. And I just feel it, it feels scummy how he did it. My read can change? yes. I am not locking. My most locked read is Jock.

And am I a vivax expert now? Nice. Well there's no much to make a read of him and if I have one I wouldn't share it, maybe because my reasons could be stupid tbf. You know, "right from wrong reasons".

Now you think I am mafia I suppose, right?





raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
June 02 2020 18:03 GMT
#133
I am sorry but i cant know how or why it feels scummy to you "how he did it" unless you elaborate on it. Because all i see is trfel "calling you out" on same thing than jeekaka and to some extent me but for some reason one is scummy and others arent.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
June 02 2020 18:17 GMT
#134
On June 02 2020 22:33 Zey wrote:
Hi everyone!

Show nested quote +
On June 02 2020 18:06 raynpelikoneet wrote:
- used "that would be too scummy to be scum" defense, guess what, people who do scummy things are usually scum
- used "why are you looking at my scummy thing and not vivax' scummy thing??" defense. Who cares what vivax did if we are talking about what you did?

Do you think this is something that Cake wouldn't do as town?

Cake's point about Trfel is interesting. I would also be interested to hear why did he asked about Vivax post about akwardnes but didn't ask about rolling mafia thing.

Am i missing something? What is this point?
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
June 02 2020 18:20 GMT
#135
Oh and btw TMI = too much information, aka youre mafia and you know the other person is not when youre not supposed to.
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ShoCkeyy
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
7815 Posts
June 02 2020 18:25 GMT
#136
On June 03 2020 02:40 CopCake wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 03 2020 00:55 ShoCkeyy wrote:
I wonder who jeekaka is... 11 posts?


If you were a fish, what kind of fish would you feel like?

If the answer comes with a pic would be lovely.


Does it have to be a fish? Can it be an aquatic mammal? :D
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CopCake
Profile Joined August 2015
4378 Posts
June 02 2020 18:25 GMT
#137
[image loading]
CopCake
Profile Joined August 2015
4378 Posts
June 02 2020 18:26 GMT
#138
On June 03 2020 03:25 ShoCkeyy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 03 2020 02:40 CopCake wrote:
On June 03 2020 00:55 ShoCkeyy wrote:
I wonder who jeekaka is... 11 posts?


If you were a fish, what kind of fish would you feel like?

If the answer comes with a pic would be lovely.


Does it have to be a fish? Can it be an aquatic mammal? :D


It needs to be a fish but now I am also interested in the aquatic mammal.

ShoCkeyy
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
7815 Posts
June 02 2020 18:27 GMT
#139
On June 03 2020 02:34 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 02 2020 22:33 Zey wrote:
Hi everyone!

On June 02 2020 18:06 raynpelikoneet wrote:
- used "that would be too scummy to be scum" defense, guess what, people who do scummy things are usually scum
- used "why are you looking at my scummy thing and not vivax' scummy thing??" defense. Who cares what vivax did if we are talking about what you did?

Do you think this is something that Cake wouldn't do as town?

I think the correct question is do i think she would do something like that as mafia and is it more likely she would, than as town? I am not completely certain but i am leaning on mafia side here. Because once again:
- i agree with jeekaka's assessment that cake is not mafia with jock, i think its almost impossible. But if she is mafia and not with jock her defense that is like "around the topic" suddenly makes sense because she isnt even lying (the first thing she started with was the "why would i townread my mafia partner bla bla"). I know jeekaka at least semi-jokingly mulled over the idea but if cake genuinely townreads jock why doesnt she just state why she does so instead of this overly defensive "why would i" bs?? Thats what i would do if i took jeekakas post seriously like cake seemed to.
- then there is the "why are you calling out me and not this other dude" thing. Again that's talking around the issue. If you did something you get called out for, you address the issue and clear it, and not flush it off by trying to talk about someone else. I dont really know why any townie would do that.

Now i am not 100% certain of my read here and i dont think i am getting more educated on the matter based on what cake says, ehich is why i followed up on it with something else. We'll see later how that pans out. Other things i dont like so far is Vivax dodging my question at least twice and shockeyy playing the dumb game with the playerlist when it has already been explained before the game start.

I dont really have issues with other people so far.


You know me, I personally think D1 is the worst day of the game. I wasn't playing dumb with the player list, I was just honestly curious who jeekaka is
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ShoCkeyy
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
7815 Posts
June 02 2020 18:32 GMT
#140
Alright fine, if I was a fish I'd be:

[image loading]

If I was an aquatic mammal:

[image loading]

It was actually between the above or a manatee :D
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