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jeekaka
Profile Joined May 2020
Finland111 Posts
June 02 2020 11:20 GMT
#101
On June 02 2020 17:46 CopCake wrote:
I think mafia is more likely to try to look "Oh look I am working, I am trying to solve the game" and making a lot of posts without actually doing something. I understand where you and others are coming from, but for example, it feels different how you approach me and my read than the way trfl did.

Trfl feels mafia while you feel more town like.

In before "I am trying to pocket you".


Why should I think you want to pocket me?
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22089 Posts
June 02 2020 11:59 GMT
#102
On June 02 2020 15:01 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 02 2020 14:50 Vivax wrote:
In this game i won‘t let you think that i think you are mafia.

what you thought about figuring out about my alignment was something i hoped for after rolling maf and actually posting

I dont understand any of this.


Was a drunk post.
Anyway, good morning.

No I don't think you're scum this game. And I hoped that trying to play decently as mafia wouldn't make me so easy to townread.

On June 02 2020 14:58 Trfel wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 02 2020 14:31 Vivax wrote:
On June 02 2020 10:58 Tictock wrote:
Guess I shouldn't feel bad about forgetting.

Is this the current pace of TL mafia?


Awkward post
Can I ask why you find this post awkward? I don't really feel it's remarkable at all, maybe even ever so slightly townish because mafia would have little incentive to post given the lack of activity.

Likely falling asleep soon.


He spent a bit too much time thinking about his own post for my taste. But could be I read too much into it.
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
June 02 2020 12:07 GMT
#103
The question remains, why? Because tbh that sounds quite un-vivax'y..
table for two on a tv tray
Zey
Profile Joined May 2020
Finland64 Posts
June 02 2020 13:33 GMT
#104
Hi everyone!

On June 02 2020 18:06 raynpelikoneet wrote:
- used "that would be too scummy to be scum" defense, guess what, people who do scummy things are usually scum
- used "why are you looking at my scummy thing and not vivax' scummy thing??" defense. Who cares what vivax did if we are talking about what you did?

Do you think this is something that Cake wouldn't do as town?

Cake's point about Trfel is interesting. I would also be interested to hear why did he asked about Vivax post about akwardnes but didn't ask about rolling mafia thing.
Jockmcplop
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United Kingdom9714 Posts
June 02 2020 14:21 GMT
#105
On June 02 2020 05:32 CopCake wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 02 2020 04:35 Jockmcplop wrote:
On June 02 2020 04:23 CopCake wrote:
Just came to say I am town and ready to work with my fellow sushinians!


Hi Copcake. I'm happy to have rolled town for once after god knows how many mafia games in a row


I am going to read you town for this because I know the feeling.

It is mentally exhaustingggggg!!

Even if mafia is fun, many consecutive times is nope.


Absolutely. I was feeling drained by it.

On June 02 2020 10:07 Tictock wrote:
Almost forgot about this as I've been baking a bunch of stuff today.

What up peeps been awhile.

I personally do not endorse the term "sushinians" as I identify as a "sushirino" + Show Spoiler +
I am on the fence about sushitarian
... I feel this is important to state now so we avoid a more awkward discussion about it later. Thanks for understanding.

On June 02 2020 10:58 Tictock wrote:
Guess I shouldn't feel bad about forgetting.

Is this the current pace of TL mafia?


I'm getting a bit of a 'tryhard' vibe from these two intro posts by ticktock.

The sushinians thing seems like he really wanted a gimicky intro post, and then complaining about lack of activity so early.

On June 02 2020 11:27 Trfel wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 02 2020 10:58 Tictock wrote:
Guess I shouldn't feel bad about forgetting.

Is this the current pace of TL mafia?
Not really, things just tend to be slow at the start of the game. I'm sure it will pick up once there are more relevant things to discuss in the thread.

Speaking of which, did you understand CopCake's townread of Jockmcplop? I mean I understand the words CopCake is saying, but I don't see why it makes Jockmcplop town at all. I see no reason he could not or would not say that as mafia.


I thought the exact same thing. I'm now going to be very wary of pocketing attempts by copcake. Very eager early townreads can go either way, but it sure makes me suspicious.

On June 02 2020 12:56 Trfel wrote:
Hi raynpelikoneet

I think you have made the worst entrance in the thread si far and therefore you are my top scumread. Do you have any thoughts about this?

The worst seems to suggest that you think rayn's entrance was actually bad, but all he did was say hi!
Ita makea noa sense.


On June 02 2020 17:13 jeekaka wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 02 2020 16:42 CopCake wrote:
On June 02 2020 08:28 Trfel wrote:
Hi all Long time no see!

CopCake, I don't understand why you are townreading Jockmcplop so easily. Why couldn't he say that as mafia?


Wooooo, because I know the feeling of rolling mafia consecutive and then rolling town is fresh air, I said it. Recently of 4 games in 3 I have been mafia so being town here is like... freedom. Not to have to worry about mind games.

On June 02 2020 05:32 CopCake wrote:
On June 02 2020 04:35 Jockmcplop wrote:
On June 02 2020 04:23 CopCake wrote:
Just came to say I am town and ready to work with my fellow sushinians!


Hi Copcake. I'm happy to have rolled town for once after god knows how many mafia games in a row


I am going to read you town for this because I know the feeling.

It is mentally exhaustingggggg!!

Even if mafia is fun, many consecutive times is nope.


Ofc there is a small chance he could say that as mafia but he just came up out of nowhere which makes me feel that a town jock is more likely to say that, he feels cheerful. It feels sincere.

Now why are you like all "woooooooo why did cake say that"? I need to check if you haven't played recently BUT if you have you should know jock has been rolling mafia many times lately. I think he and vivax were in a team together last game. And then he was mafia in the game he made fun of HF with a gif.


I think that tone is really easily faked. And you cannot come to thread like "can you guys believe I rolled scum again" so it's actually also very likely thing to fake.

You so eagerly townreading him for it might be TMI or kinda subtly highlighting towniness of your own entry post where you stated you were town.

So I don't really think you are mafia together, but seems like claiming town in the first posts works as counter psychology to me :D

Sorry what does the bolded bit mean?


Not quite sure what to make of Vivax's opening. His thing about not letting rayn know if he scumreads him is interesting and I don't think we should forget that he posted that.
RIP Meatloaf <3
jeekaka
Profile Joined May 2020
Finland111 Posts
June 02 2020 14:31 GMT
#106
I can actually see the world where Copcake is town and Scum!Trfel sees Cake's townread of Jock as an easy thing to pick up. Cake defending that read might be consistent with them being actually sincere about it (although I still disagree, you cannot really compare two entry posts when the other is a catch up post when game has been going on for pages and the other is one of the first posts of the game).

Cannot totally shake the feeling Copcakes townreads are slightly TMIsh, but having kinda cut read that Copcake/Zey are not W/W.
Jockmcplop
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United Kingdom9714 Posts
June 02 2020 14:32 GMT
#107
On June 02 2020 15:29 jeekaka wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 02 2020 15:01 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On June 02 2020 14:50 Vivax wrote:
In this game i won‘t let you think that i think you are mafia.

what you thought about figuring out about my alignment was something i hoped for after rolling maf and actually posting

I dont understand any of this.


Me neither lol. Vivax do you mean you rolled maf? :D


I think he was referring to the previous game when he rolled maf.
For context, usually Vivax goes afk quickly as mafia but in the last game he posted alot and played well throughout the game, thus scuppering the easy meta read on him people were using.
RIP Meatloaf <3
jeekaka
Profile Joined May 2020
Finland111 Posts
June 02 2020 14:35 GMT
#108
On June 02 2020 23:21 Jockmcplop wrote:

Show nested quote +
On June 02 2020 17:13 jeekaka wrote:
On June 02 2020 16:42 CopCake wrote:
On June 02 2020 08:28 Trfel wrote:
Hi all Long time no see!

CopCake, I don't understand why you are townreading Jockmcplop so easily. Why couldn't he say that as mafia?


Wooooo, because I know the feeling of rolling mafia consecutive and then rolling town is fresh air, I said it. Recently of 4 games in 3 I have been mafia so being town here is like... freedom. Not to have to worry about mind games.

On June 02 2020 05:32 CopCake wrote:
On June 02 2020 04:35 Jockmcplop wrote:
On June 02 2020 04:23 CopCake wrote:
Just came to say I am town and ready to work with my fellow sushinians!


Hi Copcake. I'm happy to have rolled town for once after god knows how many mafia games in a row


I am going to read you town for this because I know the feeling.

It is mentally exhaustingggggg!!

Even if mafia is fun, many consecutive times is nope.


Ofc there is a small chance he could say that as mafia but he just came up out of nowhere which makes me feel that a town jock is more likely to say that, he feels cheerful. It feels sincere.

Now why are you like all "woooooooo why did cake say that"? I need to check if you haven't played recently BUT if you have you should know jock has been rolling mafia many times lately. I think he and vivax were in a team together last game. And then he was mafia in the game he made fun of HF with a gif.


I think that tone is really easily faked. And you cannot come to thread like "can you guys believe I rolled scum again" so it's actually also very likely thing to fake.

You so eagerly townreading him for it might be TMI or kinda subtly highlighting towniness of your own entry post where you stated you were town.

So I don't really think you are mafia together, but seems like claiming town in the first posts works as counter psychology to me :D

Sorry what does the bolded bit mean?


That when you enter the game by telling you are town it makes me question if you really are :D
Jockmcplop
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United Kingdom9714 Posts
June 02 2020 14:35 GMT
#109
On June 02 2020 23:31 jeekaka wrote:
I can actually see the world where Copcake is town and Scum!Trfel sees Cake's townread of Jock as an easy thing to pick up. Cake defending that read might be consistent with them being actually sincere about it (although I still disagree, you cannot really compare two entry posts when the other is a catch up post when game has been going on for pages and the other is one of the first posts of the game).

Cannot totally shake the feeling Copcakes townreads are slightly TMIsh, but having kinda cut read that Copcake/Zey are not W/W.


I'm considering mostly the copcake is just looking for the reactions to her post as a way of scumhunting rather than worrying about what people are thinking. She was a reaction based player in the last game we played together.
Because of this her too scummy to be scum argument actually makes sense.

I'm still open minded about a possible pocketing attempt, but i'm more inclined to see her opening as town copcake.
RIP Meatloaf <3
Jockmcplop
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United Kingdom9714 Posts
June 02 2020 14:36 GMT
#110
On June 02 2020 23:35 jeekaka wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 02 2020 23:21 Jockmcplop wrote:

On June 02 2020 17:13 jeekaka wrote:
On June 02 2020 16:42 CopCake wrote:
On June 02 2020 08:28 Trfel wrote:
Hi all Long time no see!

CopCake, I don't understand why you are townreading Jockmcplop so easily. Why couldn't he say that as mafia?


Wooooo, because I know the feeling of rolling mafia consecutive and then rolling town is fresh air, I said it. Recently of 4 games in 3 I have been mafia so being town here is like... freedom. Not to have to worry about mind games.

On June 02 2020 05:32 CopCake wrote:
On June 02 2020 04:35 Jockmcplop wrote:
On June 02 2020 04:23 CopCake wrote:
Just came to say I am town and ready to work with my fellow sushinians!


Hi Copcake. I'm happy to have rolled town for once after god knows how many mafia games in a row


I am going to read you town for this because I know the feeling.

It is mentally exhaustingggggg!!

Even if mafia is fun, many consecutive times is nope.


Ofc there is a small chance he could say that as mafia but he just came up out of nowhere which makes me feel that a town jock is more likely to say that, he feels cheerful. It feels sincere.

Now why are you like all "woooooooo why did cake say that"? I need to check if you haven't played recently BUT if you have you should know jock has been rolling mafia many times lately. I think he and vivax were in a team together last game. And then he was mafia in the game he made fun of HF with a gif.


I think that tone is really easily faked. And you cannot come to thread like "can you guys believe I rolled scum again" so it's actually also very likely thing to fake.

You so eagerly townreading him for it might be TMI or kinda subtly highlighting towniness of your own entry post where you stated you were town.

So I don't really think you are mafia together, but seems like claiming town in the first posts works as counter psychology to me :D

Sorry what does the bolded bit mean?


That when you enter the game by telling you are town it makes me question if you really are :D


You should be questioning that regardless of my opening!

RIP Meatloaf <3
jeekaka
Profile Joined May 2020
Finland111 Posts
June 02 2020 14:36 GMT
#111
On June 02 2020 23:32 Jockmcplop wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 02 2020 15:29 jeekaka wrote:
On June 02 2020 15:01 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On June 02 2020 14:50 Vivax wrote:
In this game i won‘t let you think that i think you are mafia.

what you thought about figuring out about my alignment was something i hoped for after rolling maf and actually posting

I dont understand any of this.


Me neither lol. Vivax do you mean you rolled maf? :D


I think he was referring to the previous game when he rolled maf.
For context, usually Vivax goes afk quickly as mafia but in the last game he posted alot and played well throughout the game, thus scuppering the easy meta read on him people were using.


And yeah I kinda got this from his answer to rayn but thanks for the context!
Jockmcplop
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United Kingdom9714 Posts
June 02 2020 14:42 GMT
#112
On June 02 2020 20:59 Vivax wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 02 2020 15:01 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On June 02 2020 14:50 Vivax wrote:
In this game i won‘t let you think that i think you are mafia.

what you thought about figuring out about my alignment was something i hoped for after rolling maf and actually posting

I dont understand any of this.


Was a drunk post.
Anyway, good morning.

No I don't think you're scum this game. And I hoped that trying to play decently as mafia wouldn't make me so easy to townread.

Show nested quote +
On June 02 2020 14:58 Trfel wrote:
On June 02 2020 14:31 Vivax wrote:
On June 02 2020 10:58 Tictock wrote:
Guess I shouldn't feel bad about forgetting.

Is this the current pace of TL mafia?


Awkward post
Can I ask why you find this post awkward? I don't really feel it's remarkable at all, maybe even ever so slightly townish because mafia would have little incentive to post given the lack of activity.

Likely falling asleep soon.


He spent a bit too much time thinking about his own post for my taste. But could be I read too much into it.


Why hedge on this? I don't get it. Use it to pressure don't just say 'yeah i think this but i might be wrong'.


RIP Meatloaf <3
Zey
Profile Joined May 2020
Finland64 Posts
June 02 2020 14:50 GMT
#113
On June 02 2020 23:31 jeekaka wrote:
I can actually see the world where Copcake is town and Scum!Trfel sees Cake's townread of Jock as an easy thing to pick up.

I don't think that Trfel's question about Cake's townread was scummy. To me it just looks somebody who wants people to talk more that game would really start. It would be different if he would have said that Cake is scummy because of that. But I'm still wondering why he said that rayn's first post was scummiest entrance. I mean I don't see how it would be scummiest and I don't see how Trfel can believe that he would get any read about rayn with something like that.
jeekaka
Profile Joined May 2020
Finland111 Posts
June 02 2020 14:57 GMT
#114
On June 02 2020 23:36 Jockmcplop wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 02 2020 23:35 jeekaka wrote:
On June 02 2020 23:21 Jockmcplop wrote:

On June 02 2020 17:13 jeekaka wrote:
On June 02 2020 16:42 CopCake wrote:
On June 02 2020 08:28 Trfel wrote:
Hi all Long time no see!

CopCake, I don't understand why you are townreading Jockmcplop so easily. Why couldn't he say that as mafia?


Wooooo, because I know the feeling of rolling mafia consecutive and then rolling town is fresh air, I said it. Recently of 4 games in 3 I have been mafia so being town here is like... freedom. Not to have to worry about mind games.

On June 02 2020 05:32 CopCake wrote:
On June 02 2020 04:35 Jockmcplop wrote:
On June 02 2020 04:23 CopCake wrote:
Just came to say I am town and ready to work with my fellow sushinians!


Hi Copcake. I'm happy to have rolled town for once after god knows how many mafia games in a row


I am going to read you town for this because I know the feeling.

It is mentally exhaustingggggg!!

Even if mafia is fun, many consecutive times is nope.


Ofc there is a small chance he could say that as mafia but he just came up out of nowhere which makes me feel that a town jock is more likely to say that, he feels cheerful. It feels sincere.

Now why are you like all "woooooooo why did cake say that"? I need to check if you haven't played recently BUT if you have you should know jock has been rolling mafia many times lately. I think he and vivax were in a team together last game. And then he was mafia in the game he made fun of HF with a gif.


I think that tone is really easily faked. And you cannot come to thread like "can you guys believe I rolled scum again" so it's actually also very likely thing to fake.

You so eagerly townreading him for it might be TMI or kinda subtly highlighting towniness of your own entry post where you stated you were town.

So I don't really think you are mafia together, but seems like claiming town in the first posts works as counter psychology to me :D

Sorry what does the bolded bit mean?


That when you enter the game by telling you are town it makes me question if you really are :D


You should be questioning that regardless of my opening!



Dunno if I really need to elaborate but I still might :D People don't really expect you to watch them in the eyes and lie, and scum telling they are town is kinda using that presumption in their advantage. Town does not need to do that and I would say I have seen scum just casually claim town more than actual townies. But I guess it's still not aligment indicative per se.
Jockmcplop
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United Kingdom9714 Posts
June 02 2020 14:57 GMT
#115
On June 02 2020 23:50 Zey wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 02 2020 23:31 jeekaka wrote:
I can actually see the world where Copcake is town and Scum!Trfel sees Cake's townread of Jock as an easy thing to pick up.

I don't think that Trfel's question about Cake's townread was scummy. To me it just looks somebody who wants people to talk more that game would really start. It would be different if he would have said that Cake is scummy because of that. But I'm still wondering why he said that rayn's first post was scummiest entrance. I mean I don't see how it would be scummiest and I don't see how Trfel can believe that he would get any read about rayn with something like that.


So what do you think Trfel's motives could be?
RIP Meatloaf <3
Jockmcplop
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United Kingdom9714 Posts
June 02 2020 15:07 GMT
#116
On June 02 2020 23:57 jeekaka wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 02 2020 23:36 Jockmcplop wrote:
On June 02 2020 23:35 jeekaka wrote:
On June 02 2020 23:21 Jockmcplop wrote:

On June 02 2020 17:13 jeekaka wrote:
On June 02 2020 16:42 CopCake wrote:
On June 02 2020 08:28 Trfel wrote:
Hi all Long time no see!

CopCake, I don't understand why you are townreading Jockmcplop so easily. Why couldn't he say that as mafia?


Wooooo, because I know the feeling of rolling mafia consecutive and then rolling town is fresh air, I said it. Recently of 4 games in 3 I have been mafia so being town here is like... freedom. Not to have to worry about mind games.

On June 02 2020 05:32 CopCake wrote:
On June 02 2020 04:35 Jockmcplop wrote:
On June 02 2020 04:23 CopCake wrote:
Just came to say I am town and ready to work with my fellow sushinians!


Hi Copcake. I'm happy to have rolled town for once after god knows how many mafia games in a row


I am going to read you town for this because I know the feeling.

It is mentally exhaustingggggg!!

Even if mafia is fun, many consecutive times is nope.


Ofc there is a small chance he could say that as mafia but he just came up out of nowhere which makes me feel that a town jock is more likely to say that, he feels cheerful. It feels sincere.

Now why are you like all "woooooooo why did cake say that"? I need to check if you haven't played recently BUT if you have you should know jock has been rolling mafia many times lately. I think he and vivax were in a team together last game. And then he was mafia in the game he made fun of HF with a gif.


I think that tone is really easily faked. And you cannot come to thread like "can you guys believe I rolled scum again" so it's actually also very likely thing to fake.

You so eagerly townreading him for it might be TMI or kinda subtly highlighting towniness of your own entry post where you stated you were town.

So I don't really think you are mafia together, but seems like claiming town in the first posts works as counter psychology to me :D

Sorry what does the bolded bit mean?


That when you enter the game by telling you are town it makes me question if you really are :D


You should be questioning that regardless of my opening!



Dunno if I really need to elaborate but I still might :D People don't really expect you to watch them in the eyes and lie, and scum telling they are town is kinda using that presumption in their advantage. Town does not need to do that and I would say I have seen scum just casually claim town more than actual townies. But I guess it's still not aligment indicative per se.


Fair enough. There's always a townclaimer on the first page of every game i ever played. I never thought to go see how many of them turned out to be town, I just know there often gets to be a discussion about it.
RIP Meatloaf <3
Zey
Profile Joined May 2020
Finland64 Posts
June 02 2020 15:26 GMT
#117
On June 02 2020 23:57 Jockmcplop wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 02 2020 23:50 Zey wrote:
On June 02 2020 23:31 jeekaka wrote:
I can actually see the world where Copcake is town and Scum!Trfel sees Cake's townread of Jock as an easy thing to pick up.

I don't think that Trfel's question about Cake's townread was scummy. To me it just looks somebody who wants people to talk more that game would really start. It would be different if he would have said that Cake is scummy because of that. But I'm still wondering why he said that rayn's first post was scummiest entrance. I mean I don't see how it would be scummiest and I don't see how Trfel can believe that he would get any read about rayn with something like that.


So what do you think Trfel's motives could be?

He wants to look like he is being active and chasing scums or he is just too excited about game and want's to do something. I'm leaning more to the first one because he also just ignored Vivax's rolling mafia post what I would say more intresting post than rayn's hi. To me it seems like he is picking somethings up without any thinking whether answers and/or reactions even can give anything.
jeekaka
Profile Joined May 2020
Finland111 Posts
June 02 2020 15:39 GMT
#118
Mmmhm I think I read that interaction more like slightly trolling rayn, and I personally would rather not summon rayn's tunnel vision upon me if I was scum :D Dunno what's their mutual meta though.
Jockmcplop
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United Kingdom9714 Posts
June 02 2020 15:47 GMT
#119
On June 03 2020 00:39 jeekaka wrote:
Mmmhm I think I read that interaction more like slightly trolling rayn, and I personally would rather not summon rayn's tunnel vision upon me if I was scum :D Dunno what's their mutual meta though.


Exactly my thoughts
RIP Meatloaf <3
ShoCkeyy
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
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June 02 2020 15:55 GMT
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