• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EST 05:39
CET 11:39
KST 19:39
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
TL.net Map Contest #21: Winners5Intel X Team Liquid Seoul event: Showmatches and Meet the Pros10[ASL20] Finals Preview: Arrival13TL.net Map Contest #21: Voting12[ASL20] Ro4 Preview: Descent11
Community News
Starcraft, SC2, HoTS, WC3, returning to Blizzcon!28$5,000+ WardiTV 2025 Championship5[BSL21] RO32 Group Stage4Weekly Cups (Oct 26-Nov 2): Liquid, Clem, Solar win; LAN in Philly2Weekly Cups (Oct 20-26): MaxPax, Clem, Creator win9
StarCraft 2
General
5.0.15 Patch Balance Hotfix (2025-10-8) Starcraft, SC2, HoTS, WC3, returning to Blizzcon! TL.net Map Contest #21: Winners RotterdaM "Serral is the GOAT, and it's not close" Weekly Cups (Oct 20-26): MaxPax, Clem, Creator win
Tourneys
- nuked - Constellation Cup - Main Event - Stellar Fest $5,000+ WardiTV 2025 Championship Merivale 8 Open - LAN - Stellar Fest Sea Duckling Open (Global, Bronze-Diamond)
Strategy
Custom Maps
Map Editor closed ?
External Content
Mutation # 498 Wheel of Misfortune|Cradle of Death Mutation # 497 Battle Haredened Mutation # 496 Endless Infection Mutation # 495 Rest In Peace
Brood War
General
BW General Discussion [ASL20] Ask the mapmakers — Drop your questions [BSL21] RO32 Group Stage BGH Auto Balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/ SnOw's ASL S20 Finals Review
Tourneys
[Megathread] Daily Proleagues [BSL21] RO32 Group B - Sunday 21:00 CET [BSL21] RO32 Group A - Saturday 21:00 CET BSL21 Open Qualifiers Week & CONFIRM PARTICIPATION
Strategy
PvZ map balance Current Meta How to stay on top of macro? Soma's 9 hatch build from ASL Game 2
Other Games
General Games
Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Dawn of War IV Nintendo Switch Thread ZeroSpace Megathread General RTS Discussion Thread
Dota 2
Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
TL Mafia Community Thread SPIRED by.ASL Mafia {211640}
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread Russo-Ukrainian War Thread Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine YouTube Thread Dating: How's your luck?
Fan Clubs
White-Ra Fan Club The herO Fan Club!
Media & Entertainment
Anime Discussion Thread Movie Discussion! [Manga] One Piece Korean Music Discussion Series you have seen recently...
Sports
2024 - 2026 Football Thread NBA General Discussion MLB/Baseball 2023 TeamLiquid Health and Fitness Initiative For 2023 Formula 1 Discussion
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
SC2 Client Relocalization [Change SC2 Language] Linksys AE2500 USB WIFI keeps disconnecting Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread
TL Community
The Automated Ban List Recent Gifted Posts
Blogs
Coffee x Performance in Espo…
TrAiDoS
Saturation point
Uldridge
DnB/metal remix FFO Mick Go…
ImbaTosS
Why we need SC3
Hildegard
Reality "theory" prov…
perfectspheres
Our Last Hope in th…
KrillinFromwales
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 1506 users

[M][N]Oil Futures Mafia - Page 5

Forum Index > TL Mafia
Post a Reply
Prev 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 95 96 97 Next
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
April 28 2020 20:50 GMT
#81
I think he has quite a legitimate thought process and probably town based on it.
table for two on a tv tray
ShoCkeyy
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
7815 Posts
April 28 2020 20:53 GMT
#82
On April 29 2020 05:50 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I think he has quite a legitimate thought process and probably town based on it.


He's also played quite a few back to back mafia games, so I wouldn't blame him.
Life?
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
April 28 2020 20:55 GMT
#83
na-a.. i dont think so. At least Vivax is probably going to call me mafia for this but i dont think Trfel is mafia.
table for two on a tv tray
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
April 28 2020 21:14 GMT
#84
On April 29 2020 04:36 Kurumi wrote:
What do you make out of Trfel declaring to be lazy at the start of the game?

so why did you ask me about this?
table for two on a tv tray
Kurumi
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Poland6130 Posts
April 28 2020 21:39 GMT
#85
On April 29 2020 06:14 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 29 2020 04:36 Kurumi wrote:
What do you make out of Trfel declaring to be lazy at the start of the game?

so why did you ask me about this?


Sorry I'm responding this late, got a call from a friend.

Well, I got all bad vibes from this and wanted another pair of eyes on this. Someone declaring at the start of the game that they're going to be lazy feels like a setup for a future cop-out for why they're not putting the effort in.
I work alone. // Visit TL Mafia subforum!
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
April 28 2020 21:54 GMT
#86
And Trfel did not put effort in?
table for two on a tv tray
Trfel
Profile Joined August 2011
7015 Posts
April 28 2020 21:59 GMT
#87
On April 29 2020 05:20 Kurumi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 29 2020 04:41 Trfel wrote:
On April 29 2020 04:36 Kurumi wrote:
Hi guys, it's been a while. Hope my memory and skills can still be used for some meta shenanigans.
Out of curiosity, how many of the people in this game have you played with before?


The only people I believe I have not played with are Shockeyy, Jockmcplop and Grackaroni. I believe we have played together (maybe even on a scum team?), I have played lots with rayn, Vivax, Koshi, Chezinu and probably Alakaslam could go into that category as well. So Fecalfeast, Trfel (you) and GlowingBear are people I should've played already but my meta judgement would be seriously impractical here.

Show nested quote +
On April 29 2020 05:04 Vivax wrote:
On April 29 2020 05:02 Trfel wrote:
On April 29 2020 04:50 Vivax wrote:
On April 29 2020 04:41 Trfel wrote:
On April 29 2020 04:36 Kurumi wrote:
Hi guys, it's been a while. Hope my memory and skills can still be used for some meta shenanigans.
Out of curiosity, how many of the people in this game have you played with before?


He played with me and rayn for sure. Kurumi is a vet, and a sneaky ass mafia player.
I know he's played a bunch before, I've seen him around a bit before (forget where).

The reason I ask is that he said he will be trying to make some meta reads, I'm curious if that's going to be based on previous game experience or if he intends on filter diving past games of unfamiliar players or what.


I'm not a fan of that approach. Especially after not playing for so long.


I agree Vivax! Actually, if I were in a self-deprecating mood I'd probably state outright that I don't feel meta-competent right now.
Fair enough, I didn't realize it was that many players. Thanks for explaining!
On April 29 2020 05:26 GlowingBear wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 29 2020 04:37 Trfel wrote:
Hi all

In-game excuse, I'm going to be a bit lazy this game. Also more likely to be active late evening (PDT).


No Trfel, you're either effortful or mafia.
You hosted last game, where I was lazy and town?

Come to think of it, GlowingBear, what do you think about Vivax's alignment?
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
April 28 2020 22:13 GMT
#88
Hi Trfel can we be friends this game?
table for two on a tv tray
Kurumi
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Poland6130 Posts
April 28 2020 22:26 GMT
#89
On April 29 2020 06:54 raynpelikoneet wrote:
And Trfel did not put effort in?

So far all they've done is asked questions, so far asking what does Slam think about them being lazy. Holy fluff batman.



On April 29 2020 06:59 Trfel wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 29 2020 05:20 Kurumi wrote:
On April 29 2020 04:41 Trfel wrote:
On April 29 2020 04:36 Kurumi wrote:
Hi guys, it's been a while. Hope my memory and skills can still be used for some meta shenanigans.
Out of curiosity, how many of the people in this game have you played with before?


The only people I believe I have not played with are Shockeyy, Jockmcplop and Grackaroni. I believe we have played together (maybe even on a scum team?), I have played lots with rayn, Vivax, Koshi, Chezinu and probably Alakaslam could go into that category as well. So Fecalfeast, Trfel (you) and GlowingBear are people I should've played already but my meta judgement would be seriously impractical here.

On April 29 2020 05:04 Vivax wrote:
On April 29 2020 05:02 Trfel wrote:
On April 29 2020 04:50 Vivax wrote:
On April 29 2020 04:41 Trfel wrote:
On April 29 2020 04:36 Kurumi wrote:
Hi guys, it's been a while. Hope my memory and skills can still be used for some meta shenanigans.
Out of curiosity, how many of the people in this game have you played with before?


He played with me and rayn for sure. Kurumi is a vet, and a sneaky ass mafia player.
I know he's played a bunch before, I've seen him around a bit before (forget where).

The reason I ask is that he said he will be trying to make some meta reads, I'm curious if that's going to be based on previous game experience or if he intends on filter diving past games of unfamiliar players or what.


I'm not a fan of that approach. Especially after not playing for so long.


I agree Vivax! Actually, if I were in a self-deprecating mood I'd probably state outright that I don't feel meta-competent right now.
Fair enough, I didn't realize it was that many players. Thanks for explaining!


So why were you asking me about how I'm going to play this game, exactly?
I work alone. // Visit TL Mafia subforum!
Kurumi
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Poland6130 Posts
April 28 2020 22:26 GMT
#90
EDWOP:

(...) is asked questions, going so far as asking (...)
I work alone. // Visit TL Mafia subforum!
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
April 28 2020 22:42 GMT
#91
But that's not true, about Trfel only asking questions?
table for two on a tv tray
Kurumi
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Poland6130 Posts
April 28 2020 22:48 GMT
#92
On April 29 2020 07:42 raynpelikoneet wrote:
But that's not true, about Trfel only asking questions?


What do you mean? So far they've:
-started the game out by saying they're going to be lazy
-asked Alakaslam what does he mean with people giving excuses (see previous point, wut?)
-asked me how I'm going to play and fished for whether I checked out the player roster for past games and meta
-now questions GlowingBear about Vivax which is first "OK" thing.

I have no idea why you're pushing back on Trfel so much given that all I've done is cast some shade on them.
I work alone. // Visit TL Mafia subforum!
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
April 28 2020 22:58 GMT
#93
On April 29 2020 07:48 Kurumi wrote:
[...]
-asked me how I'm going to play and fished for whether I checked out the player roster for past games and meta
-now questions GlowingBear about Vivax which is first "OK" thing.
[...]

See these are not "only asking questions" things. Regardless of that, i really liked his thought process on your "meta shenanigans" post. I am waiting to see what kind of meta reads you will cook up. You haven't played in what... three years?

I also heavily dislike your approach towards me, because you seem to be thinking Trfel is not doing anything but asking useless questions, and i am not (before this) giving you pretty much anything on that front except for support on him for "no apparent reason". Why are you talking to me like there is nothing wrong in my behavior?
table for two on a tv tray
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
April 28 2020 23:02 GMT
#94
To be more clear; Is it normal for a guy who is mafia to say "hey i am gonna lurk and only be around mostly at time X", then question people and follow that up with ANYTHING?

Now i am not saying this CANT be mafia, but like... I think i tried slowwwwwwly try to get Kurumi off that thing in case he genuinely thought that was mafia behavior (in general i mean). I guess no luck, and i think that smells.
table for two on a tv tray
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
April 28 2020 23:09 GMT
#95
Anyways, i am gonna look at this with fresh eyes tomorrow. night.
table for two on a tv tray
Kurumi
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Poland6130 Posts
April 28 2020 23:10 GMT
#96
On April 29 2020 07:58 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 29 2020 07:48 Kurumi wrote:
[...]
-asked me how I'm going to play and fished for whether I checked out the player roster for past games and meta
-now questions GlowingBear about Vivax which is first "OK" thing.
[...]

See these are not "only asking questions" things. Regardless of that, i really liked his thought process on your "meta shenanigans" post. I am waiting to see what kind of meta reads you will cook up. You haven't played in what... three years?

I also heavily dislike your approach towards me, because you seem to be thinking Trfel is not doing anything but asking useless questions, and i am not (before this) giving you pretty much anything on that front except for support on him for "no apparent reason". Why are you talking to me like there is nothing wrong in my behavior?


Fishing for how I'm committed to the game is not something I'm going to write up as "Town" in my book. Especially when someone declares that they're going to be less than committed. And as I've stated already in agreement to Vivax, me going for meta reads might not be the best course of action.

I am talking to you "like there is nothing wrong in your behaviour" because it is still early in the game and you might be going off one thing, like you've admitted. I also read your first post after "hi" as combative and wanted to know whether it is light-hearted or not, but you didn't acknowledge me asking about it. Besides, bringing more information into the thread is never wrong, especially when we establish connections people have to each other based on their reactions and interactions.

On April 29 2020 08:02 raynpelikoneet wrote:
To be more clear; Is it normal for a guy who is mafia to say "hey i am gonna lurk and only be around mostly at time X", then question people and follow that up with ANYTHING?

Now i am not saying this CANT be mafia, but like... I think i tried slowwwwwwly try to get Kurumi off that thing in case he genuinely thought that was mafia behavior (in general i mean). I guess no luck, and i think that smells.



Oh come on Ray, what kind of reasoning is this? If anything, we should be concerned that someone that has shown less interest in the game changes their behaviour so fast. If that's the whole picture, that is.
I work alone. // Visit TL Mafia subforum!
Alakaslam
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States17336 Posts
April 29 2020 00:45 GMT
#97
On April 29 2020 04:47 Trfel wrote:
Alakaslam, I assume by cop-outs you mean excuses?

And if so, what (if anything) do you make of them?

Meh, NAI but also unnecessary. Just kinda bad. I cant always be here, I don’t have to go on and on about my daily teaching schedule or coronavirus actually making me busier and whatnot. I just show up when I can. Because I’m town, and therefore dont give a shit what people think.
If you think Elon Musk is a Nazi, it is because YOU radicalized him!
Alakaslam
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States17336 Posts
April 29 2020 00:54 GMT
#98
On April 29 2020 04:53 Vivax wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 29 2020 04:35 Alakaslam wrote:
Meanwhile my family is almost entirely built on Oil money from a Utah well.

Yeeaaaaahhhhhhhh! We are in paydir-S H I T


Are you a mormon?
Hopefully the oil situation resolves itself when activity picks up and more fuel is consumed.

Nope! Colorado cowboys and a Protestant family, Methodists to be exact. Denying Jesus’ divinity so christian atheists until my generation was about teenage, then we switched to CRC (reformed). The fam moved to California to be more acceptably NonChristian Christians. And, we know the oil industry is dying. We are invested with Chevron (also kinda bad news) but they’re diversifying away from oil which we agree with.

The land still happens to be in Utah though. Mostly. Slice of it in Colorado.
If you think Elon Musk is a Nazi, it is because YOU radicalized him!
Alakaslam
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States17336 Posts
April 29 2020 00:56 GMT
#99
On April 29 2020 05:22 Kurumi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 29 2020 04:44 Alakaslam wrote:
SUP KURUMI U SKUM? WHAT KIND OF PM COLOR U GET EH


Oh, forgot to respond to this.

Brown.

Chickenmcfish everyone is brown but we get alignments m8
If you think Elon Musk is a Nazi, it is because YOU radicalized him!
Alakaslam
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States17336 Posts
April 29 2020 00:57 GMT
#100
On April 29 2020 05:30 Vivax wrote:
Well I'm going to bed soon, need to visit someone in a hospital tomorrow. Nothing too grave, but need to be up early.

Hope to find some more content when I wake up, but I won't complain if you talk about economy here and there.

Oh lawdy dont cough
If you think Elon Musk is a Nazi, it is because YOU radicalized him!
Prev 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 95 96 97 Next
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
Next event in 1h 21m
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft: Brood War
Jaedong 677
BeSt 381
Stork 269
Light 235
Mini 209
Larva 186
Leta 156
PianO 130
JYJ115
Aegong 106
[ Show more ]
EffOrt 102
Pusan 97
sSak 95
Barracks 70
soO 43
Sharp 42
Rush 39
Backho 35
sorry 27
yabsab 23
NotJumperer 13
Bale 11
Icarus 8
Noble 8
HiyA 8
Terrorterran 7
scan(afreeca) 7
Dota 2
Gorgc5826
KheZu205
XcaliburYe173
League of Legends
JimRising 421
Reynor176
Counter-Strike
fl0m1778
zeus133
taco 87
Other Games
summit1g16433
singsing1243
ceh9466
Happy211
crisheroes186
Sick122
XaKoH 100
NeuroSwarm48
Organizations
Other Games
gamesdonequick508
Counter-Strike
PGL112
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
sctven
[ Show 14 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• LUISG 32
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• Migwel
• sooper7s
StarCraft: Brood War
• iopq 1
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
League of Legends
• Jankos3826
• Stunt611
Upcoming Events
OSC
1h 21m
LAN Event
4h 21m
Lambo vs Harstem
FuturE vs Maplez
Scarlett vs FoxeR
Gerald vs Mixu
Zoun vs TBD
Clem vs TBD
ByuN vs TBD
TriGGeR vs TBD
Korean StarCraft League
16h 21m
CranKy Ducklings
23h 21m
LAN Event
1d 4h
IPSL
1d 7h
dxtr13 vs OldBoy
Napoleon vs Doodle
BSL 21
1d 9h
Gosudark vs Kyrie
Gypsy vs Sterling
UltrA vs Radley
Dandy vs Ptak
Replay Cast
1d 12h
Sparkling Tuna Cup
1d 23h
WardiTV Korean Royale
2 days
[ Show More ]
LAN Event
2 days
IPSL
2 days
JDConan vs WIZARD
WolFix vs Cross
BSL 21
2 days
spx vs rasowy
HBO vs KameZerg
Cross vs Razz
dxtr13 vs ZZZero
Replay Cast
2 days
Wardi Open
3 days
WardiTV Korean Royale
4 days
Replay Cast
4 days
Kung Fu Cup
5 days
Classic vs Solar
herO vs Cure
Reynor vs GuMiho
ByuN vs ShoWTimE
Tenacious Turtle Tussle
5 days
The PondCast
5 days
RSL Revival
5 days
Solar vs Zoun
MaxPax vs Bunny
Kung Fu Cup
6 days
WardiTV Korean Royale
6 days
RSL Revival
6 days
Classic vs Creator
Cure vs TriGGeR
Liquipedia Results

Completed

BSL 21 Points
SC4ALL: StarCraft II
Eternal Conflict S1

Ongoing

C-Race Season 1
IPSL Winter 2025-26
KCM Race Survival 2025 Season 4
SOOP Univ League 2025
YSL S2
Stellar Fest: Constellation Cup
IEM Chengdu 2025
PGL Masters Bucharest 2025
Thunderpick World Champ.
CS Asia Championships 2025
ESL Pro League S22
StarSeries Fall 2025
FISSURE Playground #2
BLAST Open Fall 2025
BLAST Open Fall Qual

Upcoming

BSL Season 21
SLON Tour Season 2
BSL 21 Non-Korean Championship
Acropolis #4
IPSL Spring 2026
HSC XXVIII
RSL Offline Finals
WardiTV 2025
RSL Revival: Season 3
META Madness #9
BLAST Bounty Winter 2026: Closed Qualifier
eXTREMESLAND 2025
ESL Impact League Season 8
SL Budapest Major 2025
BLAST Rivals Fall 2025
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2025 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.