• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 13:40
CEST 19:40
KST 02:40
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
[ASL22] Finals Preview: Sweet Victory!9[ASL22] Ro4 Preview: Mirror Mirror6[ASL22] Ro8 Preview: Within Reach5[ASL22] Ro8 Preview: In A Tizzy11[ASL22] Ro16 Preview: Holy Diver5
Community News
[$1250] International ShieldBattery League36Weekly Cups (October 5-11): Farewell to 5.0.164Rollback Netcode in Brood War1345.0.17 Patch Notes - October 7, 202624Weekly Cups Results (Sep 28-Oct 4)0
StarCraft 2
General
Server Blocker Stellar Fest 2 Replay Pack SCII needs to put more weight on strategy and tact Terran AddOns placement No more sc2 streamers on team liquid?
Tourneys
WORTEX Challenger Series — Open SC2 LAN in Budapes RSL goes to London! 2026 Offline Finals Nov 21-22 Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament Stellar Fest TWO the Moon (Dec 16-20) Master Swan Open (Global Bronze-Master 2)
Strategy
[H] ZvP Mid-Late Game: Stalkers Collossi HT
Custom Maps
[G] How to playtest arcade maps [A] Nemrods 1/4 players [M] (2) Sweltering Sands [M] (2) Frigid Storage
External Content
Mutation # 548 Shining Bright The PondCast: SC2 News & Results Mutation # 547 Temple Of Terror Mutation # 546 Catch the Train
Brood War
General
Mineral gathering rate (boosted) for each patch BW General Discussion Rollback Netcode in Brood War Making an Online Broodwar Manager Game [Megathread] Daily Funny Videos
Tourneys
[ASL22] Grand Finals [$1250] International ShieldBattery League [Megathread] Daily Proleagues 2v2v2v2 Tournament
Strategy
Cliff Jump Revisited (1 in a 1000 strategy) Simple Questions, Simple Answers Replay Review Process - What do you do?
Other Games
General Games
Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Nintendo Switch Thread Dawn of War IV Warcraft III: The Frozen Throne General RTS Discussion Thread
Dota 2
Dota 2 Champions League Season 3 Begins April 25!
League of Legends
[TL LoL EUW IHs] Teemo shall perish
Heroes of the Storm
Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug
TL Mafia
TL Mafia Community Thread
Community
General
Artificial Intelligence Thread US Politics Mega-thread European Politico-economics QA Mega-thread Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine Russo-Ukrainian War Thread
Fan Clubs
Serral Fan Club
Media & Entertainment
Movie Discussion! [Manga] One Piece
Sports
TeamLiquid Health and Fitness Initiative For 2023 MLB/Baseball 2023 Football (Soccer) Thread
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread
TL Community
Recent Gifted Posts
Blogs
How Much Genes Contribute to…
TrAiDoS
ShieldBattery on Mac
Kraekkling
[ASL22] Ro4 Day1 Ticket Giv…
bITt.mAN
38 yo Retired SWE loo…
PurE)Rabbit-SF
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 11319 users

[M][N]Oil Futures Mafia - Page 5

Forum Index > TL Mafia
Post a Reply
Prev 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 95 96 97 Next
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
April 28 2020 20:50 GMT
#81
I think he has quite a legitimate thought process and probably town based on it.
table for two on a tv tray
ShoCkeyy
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
7815 Posts
April 28 2020 20:53 GMT
#82
On April 29 2020 05:50 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I think he has quite a legitimate thought process and probably town based on it.


He's also played quite a few back to back mafia games, so I wouldn't blame him.
Life?
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
April 28 2020 20:55 GMT
#83
na-a.. i dont think so. At least Vivax is probably going to call me mafia for this but i dont think Trfel is mafia.
table for two on a tv tray
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
April 28 2020 21:14 GMT
#84
On April 29 2020 04:36 Kurumi wrote:
What do you make out of Trfel declaring to be lazy at the start of the game?

so why did you ask me about this?
table for two on a tv tray
Kurumi
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Poland6130 Posts
April 28 2020 21:39 GMT
#85
On April 29 2020 06:14 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 29 2020 04:36 Kurumi wrote:
What do you make out of Trfel declaring to be lazy at the start of the game?

so why did you ask me about this?


Sorry I'm responding this late, got a call from a friend.

Well, I got all bad vibes from this and wanted another pair of eyes on this. Someone declaring at the start of the game that they're going to be lazy feels like a setup for a future cop-out for why they're not putting the effort in.
I work alone. // Visit TL Mafia subforum!
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
April 28 2020 21:54 GMT
#86
And Trfel did not put effort in?
table for two on a tv tray
Trfel
Profile Joined August 2011
7015 Posts
April 28 2020 21:59 GMT
#87
On April 29 2020 05:20 Kurumi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 29 2020 04:41 Trfel wrote:
On April 29 2020 04:36 Kurumi wrote:
Hi guys, it's been a while. Hope my memory and skills can still be used for some meta shenanigans.
Out of curiosity, how many of the people in this game have you played with before?


The only people I believe I have not played with are Shockeyy, Jockmcplop and Grackaroni. I believe we have played together (maybe even on a scum team?), I have played lots with rayn, Vivax, Koshi, Chezinu and probably Alakaslam could go into that category as well. So Fecalfeast, Trfel (you) and GlowingBear are people I should've played already but my meta judgement would be seriously impractical here.

Show nested quote +
On April 29 2020 05:04 Vivax wrote:
On April 29 2020 05:02 Trfel wrote:
On April 29 2020 04:50 Vivax wrote:
On April 29 2020 04:41 Trfel wrote:
On April 29 2020 04:36 Kurumi wrote:
Hi guys, it's been a while. Hope my memory and skills can still be used for some meta shenanigans.
Out of curiosity, how many of the people in this game have you played with before?


He played with me and rayn for sure. Kurumi is a vet, and a sneaky ass mafia player.
I know he's played a bunch before, I've seen him around a bit before (forget where).

The reason I ask is that he said he will be trying to make some meta reads, I'm curious if that's going to be based on previous game experience or if he intends on filter diving past games of unfamiliar players or what.


I'm not a fan of that approach. Especially after not playing for so long.


I agree Vivax! Actually, if I were in a self-deprecating mood I'd probably state outright that I don't feel meta-competent right now.
Fair enough, I didn't realize it was that many players. Thanks for explaining!
On April 29 2020 05:26 GlowingBear wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 29 2020 04:37 Trfel wrote:
Hi all

In-game excuse, I'm going to be a bit lazy this game. Also more likely to be active late evening (PDT).


No Trfel, you're either effortful or mafia.
You hosted last game, where I was lazy and town?

Come to think of it, GlowingBear, what do you think about Vivax's alignment?
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
April 28 2020 22:13 GMT
#88
Hi Trfel can we be friends this game?
table for two on a tv tray
Kurumi
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Poland6130 Posts
April 28 2020 22:26 GMT
#89
On April 29 2020 06:54 raynpelikoneet wrote:
And Trfel did not put effort in?

So far all they've done is asked questions, so far asking what does Slam think about them being lazy. Holy fluff batman.



On April 29 2020 06:59 Trfel wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 29 2020 05:20 Kurumi wrote:
On April 29 2020 04:41 Trfel wrote:
On April 29 2020 04:36 Kurumi wrote:
Hi guys, it's been a while. Hope my memory and skills can still be used for some meta shenanigans.
Out of curiosity, how many of the people in this game have you played with before?


The only people I believe I have not played with are Shockeyy, Jockmcplop and Grackaroni. I believe we have played together (maybe even on a scum team?), I have played lots with rayn, Vivax, Koshi, Chezinu and probably Alakaslam could go into that category as well. So Fecalfeast, Trfel (you) and GlowingBear are people I should've played already but my meta judgement would be seriously impractical here.

On April 29 2020 05:04 Vivax wrote:
On April 29 2020 05:02 Trfel wrote:
On April 29 2020 04:50 Vivax wrote:
On April 29 2020 04:41 Trfel wrote:
On April 29 2020 04:36 Kurumi wrote:
Hi guys, it's been a while. Hope my memory and skills can still be used for some meta shenanigans.
Out of curiosity, how many of the people in this game have you played with before?


He played with me and rayn for sure. Kurumi is a vet, and a sneaky ass mafia player.
I know he's played a bunch before, I've seen him around a bit before (forget where).

The reason I ask is that he said he will be trying to make some meta reads, I'm curious if that's going to be based on previous game experience or if he intends on filter diving past games of unfamiliar players or what.


I'm not a fan of that approach. Especially after not playing for so long.


I agree Vivax! Actually, if I were in a self-deprecating mood I'd probably state outright that I don't feel meta-competent right now.
Fair enough, I didn't realize it was that many players. Thanks for explaining!


So why were you asking me about how I'm going to play this game, exactly?
I work alone. // Visit TL Mafia subforum!
Kurumi
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Poland6130 Posts
April 28 2020 22:26 GMT
#90
EDWOP:

(...) is asked questions, going so far as asking (...)
I work alone. // Visit TL Mafia subforum!
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
April 28 2020 22:42 GMT
#91
But that's not true, about Trfel only asking questions?
table for two on a tv tray
Kurumi
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Poland6130 Posts
April 28 2020 22:48 GMT
#92
On April 29 2020 07:42 raynpelikoneet wrote:
But that's not true, about Trfel only asking questions?


What do you mean? So far they've:
-started the game out by saying they're going to be lazy
-asked Alakaslam what does he mean with people giving excuses (see previous point, wut?)
-asked me how I'm going to play and fished for whether I checked out the player roster for past games and meta
-now questions GlowingBear about Vivax which is first "OK" thing.

I have no idea why you're pushing back on Trfel so much given that all I've done is cast some shade on them.
I work alone. // Visit TL Mafia subforum!
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
April 28 2020 22:58 GMT
#93
On April 29 2020 07:48 Kurumi wrote:
[...]
-asked me how I'm going to play and fished for whether I checked out the player roster for past games and meta
-now questions GlowingBear about Vivax which is first "OK" thing.
[...]

See these are not "only asking questions" things. Regardless of that, i really liked his thought process on your "meta shenanigans" post. I am waiting to see what kind of meta reads you will cook up. You haven't played in what... three years?

I also heavily dislike your approach towards me, because you seem to be thinking Trfel is not doing anything but asking useless questions, and i am not (before this) giving you pretty much anything on that front except for support on him for "no apparent reason". Why are you talking to me like there is nothing wrong in my behavior?
table for two on a tv tray
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
April 28 2020 23:02 GMT
#94
To be more clear; Is it normal for a guy who is mafia to say "hey i am gonna lurk and only be around mostly at time X", then question people and follow that up with ANYTHING?

Now i am not saying this CANT be mafia, but like... I think i tried slowwwwwwly try to get Kurumi off that thing in case he genuinely thought that was mafia behavior (in general i mean). I guess no luck, and i think that smells.
table for two on a tv tray
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
April 28 2020 23:09 GMT
#95
Anyways, i am gonna look at this with fresh eyes tomorrow. night.
table for two on a tv tray
Kurumi
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Poland6130 Posts
April 28 2020 23:10 GMT
#96
On April 29 2020 07:58 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 29 2020 07:48 Kurumi wrote:
[...]
-asked me how I'm going to play and fished for whether I checked out the player roster for past games and meta
-now questions GlowingBear about Vivax which is first "OK" thing.
[...]

See these are not "only asking questions" things. Regardless of that, i really liked his thought process on your "meta shenanigans" post. I am waiting to see what kind of meta reads you will cook up. You haven't played in what... three years?

I also heavily dislike your approach towards me, because you seem to be thinking Trfel is not doing anything but asking useless questions, and i am not (before this) giving you pretty much anything on that front except for support on him for "no apparent reason". Why are you talking to me like there is nothing wrong in my behavior?


Fishing for how I'm committed to the game is not something I'm going to write up as "Town" in my book. Especially when someone declares that they're going to be less than committed. And as I've stated already in agreement to Vivax, me going for meta reads might not be the best course of action.

I am talking to you "like there is nothing wrong in your behaviour" because it is still early in the game and you might be going off one thing, like you've admitted. I also read your first post after "hi" as combative and wanted to know whether it is light-hearted or not, but you didn't acknowledge me asking about it. Besides, bringing more information into the thread is never wrong, especially when we establish connections people have to each other based on their reactions and interactions.

On April 29 2020 08:02 raynpelikoneet wrote:
To be more clear; Is it normal for a guy who is mafia to say "hey i am gonna lurk and only be around mostly at time X", then question people and follow that up with ANYTHING?

Now i am not saying this CANT be mafia, but like... I think i tried slowwwwwwly try to get Kurumi off that thing in case he genuinely thought that was mafia behavior (in general i mean). I guess no luck, and i think that smells.



Oh come on Ray, what kind of reasoning is this? If anything, we should be concerned that someone that has shown less interest in the game changes their behaviour so fast. If that's the whole picture, that is.
I work alone. // Visit TL Mafia subforum!
Alakaslam
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States17336 Posts
April 29 2020 00:45 GMT
#97
On April 29 2020 04:47 Trfel wrote:
Alakaslam, I assume by cop-outs you mean excuses?

And if so, what (if anything) do you make of them?

Meh, NAI but also unnecessary. Just kinda bad. I cant always be here, I don’t have to go on and on about my daily teaching schedule or coronavirus actually making me busier and whatnot. I just show up when I can. Because I’m town, and therefore dont give a shit what people think.
If you think Elon Musk is a Nazi, it is because YOU radicalized him!
Alakaslam
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States17336 Posts
April 29 2020 00:54 GMT
#98
On April 29 2020 04:53 Vivax wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 29 2020 04:35 Alakaslam wrote:
Meanwhile my family is almost entirely built on Oil money from a Utah well.

Yeeaaaaahhhhhhhh! We are in paydir-S H I T


Are you a mormon?
Hopefully the oil situation resolves itself when activity picks up and more fuel is consumed.

Nope! Colorado cowboys and a Protestant family, Methodists to be exact. Denying Jesus’ divinity so christian atheists until my generation was about teenage, then we switched to CRC (reformed). The fam moved to California to be more acceptably NonChristian Christians. And, we know the oil industry is dying. We are invested with Chevron (also kinda bad news) but they’re diversifying away from oil which we agree with.

The land still happens to be in Utah though. Mostly. Slice of it in Colorado.
If you think Elon Musk is a Nazi, it is because YOU radicalized him!
Alakaslam
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States17336 Posts
April 29 2020 00:56 GMT
#99
On April 29 2020 05:22 Kurumi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 29 2020 04:44 Alakaslam wrote:
SUP KURUMI U SKUM? WHAT KIND OF PM COLOR U GET EH


Oh, forgot to respond to this.

Brown.

Chickenmcfish everyone is brown but we get alignments m8
If you think Elon Musk is a Nazi, it is because YOU radicalized him!
Alakaslam
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States17336 Posts
April 29 2020 00:57 GMT
#100
On April 29 2020 05:30 Vivax wrote:
Well I'm going to bed soon, need to visit someone in a hospital tomorrow. Nothing too grave, but need to be up early.

Hope to find some more content when I wake up, but I won't complain if you talk about economy here and there.

Oh lawdy dont cough
If you think Elon Musk is a Nazi, it is because YOU radicalized him!
Prev 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 95 96 97 Next
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
Monday Night Weeklies
01:00
#67
RotterdaM783
TKL 335
TaKeTV 275
IndyStarCraft 224
SteadfastSC142
BRAT_OK 108
LiquipediaDiscussion
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
RotterdaM 783
TKL 335
ByuN 332
IndyStarCraft 224
SteadfastSC 142
BRAT_OK 108
UpATreeSC 87
JuggernautJason59
StarCraft: Brood War
Britney 30561
Calm 1944
Shuttle 1792
Jaedong 1042
EffOrt 471
Mini 438
Horang2 320
Soulkey 252
BeSt 189
Rush 144
[ Show more ]
Soma 125
firebathero 124
ProTech108
Mong 85
Barracks 65
Zeus 56
hero 54
sorry 50
Killer 44
Terrorterran 36
ToSsGirL 22
soO 18
Sexy 17
scan(afreeca) 14
Hm[arnc] 13
Sacsri 11
yabsab 11
Counter-Strike
pashabiceps1207
Heroes of the Storm
Grubby626
Other Games
B2W.Neo1183
Beastyqt973
ceh9540
FrodaN367
KnowMe185
C9.Mang0182
Hui .168
mouzStarbuck140
QueenE84
MindelVK8
fpsfer 1
[ Show 16 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• kabyraGe 126
• LUISG 9
• Reevou 4
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• Migwel
StarCraft: Brood War
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
Dota 2
• WagamamaTV999
League of Legends
• Nemesis5141
• TFBlade653
Other Games
• imaqtpie838
• Shiphtur592
Upcoming Events
IntoTheTV X SOOP
17h 20m
PiGosaur Cup
1d 6h
The PondCast
1d 16h
Kung Fu Cup
1d 17h
IntoTheTV X SOOP
2 days
FEL
4 days
FEL
5 days
Sparkling Tuna Cup
5 days
Replay Cast
6 days
WardiTV Weekly
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

ASL Season 22
Blizzard Classic Cup 2026
HCC Season 3

Ongoing

Acropolis #5
IPSL Winter 2026-27
KCM Race Survival 2026 Season 4
Acropolis #5 - GSC
1win Private Club #2
Thunderpick World Champ. '26
ESL Pro League Season 24
Stake Ranked Episode 4
1win Private Club #1
Logitech G Play Connect 2026
SL StarSeries Fall 2026
FISSURE Playground #3
BLAST Open Fall 2026
Esports World Cup 2026

Upcoming

BSL Season 23
SC4ALL II: Brood War
BSL 23: Non-Korean Championship
HSC XXX
Stellar Fest 2: Lunar Cup
SC4ALL II: StarCraft II
Kung Fu Cup 2026 Grand Finals
RSL Offline Finals
eXTREMESLAND 2026
PGL Major Singapore 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 6
BLAST Rivals Fall 2026
IEM Beijing 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 5
PGL Masters Bucharest 2026
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2026 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.