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Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9857 Posts
May 02 2020 02:56 GMT
#901
I take it you're town reading Trfel
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
May 02 2020 02:57 GMT
#902
On May 02 2020 11:56 Grackaroni wrote:
I take it you're town reading Trfel

I kinda think that you should be reading your top scumread's posts really care fully and you dont know thta i townread Trfel?
table for two on a tv tray
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9857 Posts
May 02 2020 03:00 GMT
#903
On May 02 2020 11:57 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 02 2020 11:56 Grackaroni wrote:
I take it you're town reading Trfel

I kinda think that you should be reading your top scumread's posts really care fully and you dont know thta i townread Trfel?

lol ok then. I mostly wanted you to elaborate but if you want to play "GOTCHA" rather than talking to me I'm not going to bother with you.
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
May 02 2020 03:17 GMT
#904
I dont know why i should elaborate on that. I think, if youre not mafia, then jock and chezinu kinda have to be mafia. What do you think about that?
table for two on a tv tray
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9857 Posts
May 02 2020 03:31 GMT
#905
On May 02 2020 12:17 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I dont know why i should elaborate on that. I think, if youre not mafia, then jock and chezinu kinda have to be mafia. What do you think about that?

Because you just said no.

If I just replied no to one of your posts you would have some questions.

Trfel does go out of his way to defend GB/Jock/me/you and goes after Kurumi for attacking him rather than pushing FF after he said he liked Vivax's read. He mentions 3-4 times that FF is suspicious of too many people and even asks him why he is spreading suspicion on so many people. What was he expecting FF to say to that? Then after FF is killed he throws out ShoCkkey/Slam/Chezinu/me as suspects from the night kill. He gives me bad feels like he's defending the players who might threaten him and pushing the players he thinks he can lynch.

Are you back to GB as mafia then for Jock/Chezinu as the remaining two?
Trfel
Profile Joined August 2011
7015 Posts
May 02 2020 05:19 GMT
#906
Anyone around? Would love to have someone to talk to.

@Grackaroni, you can think what you want. I haven't been defending people, just sharing my thoughts. If you really think I have been only going after easy targets, why would I "go after" Koshi? But I won't defend myself other than saying I act according to how I view the game.

Honestly I'm getting kinda tinfoily and paranoid based on the night kill. Why not kill Vivax? Everyone was townreading him. Or Koshi, most people were townreading him (exceptions I believe being myself and Alakaslam). Or even myself, for that matter, most people were townreading me. Yes, a lot of people were townreading Fecalfeast, and he wasn't likely to be lynched this game, but the same goes for the above people.

It feels too far off to be a medic dodge. Perhaps it was an attempted blue snipe, but on what grounds? I just fear that it means that one or more of the aforementioned people are actually mafia. That's what a night kill like this can point to. Unfortunately I don't have a solid case to scumread any of them

For reference, here is an example of a game where something like the above happened, and night kill analysis would have been the way to figure it out.

Don't want to dive too deep into the paranoia, but it's hard to ignore entirely...
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22424 Posts
May 02 2020 05:33 GMT
#907
Morning.

Have you read his filter Trfel? There's a read that sticks out imo. I've been burned before from drawing conclusions from kills though.

And shouldn't Slam have a check?
Trfel
Profile Joined August 2011
7015 Posts
May 02 2020 05:42 GMT
#908
On May 02 2020 14:33 Vivax wrote:
Morning.

Have you read his filter Trfel? There's a read that sticks out imo. I've been burned before from drawing conclusions from kills though.

And shouldn't Slam have a check?
You mean his read on ShoCkeyy or Fecalfeast? I skimmed his filter, those two seemed most prominent to me. Sure, he talked about Chezinu less, but he was one of few who talked about him at all (at least in any kind of alignment indicative way).

And I guess we'd better wait for Alakaslam to say.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22424 Posts
May 02 2020 05:43 GMT
#909
Rayn what's up with the passive aggressive tone? Are you a Tesla investor?

Do you agree that we should murder Shockeyy or that other guy today?
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22424 Posts
May 02 2020 05:45 GMT
#910
On May 02 2020 14:42 Trfel wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 02 2020 14:33 Vivax wrote:
Morning.

Have you read his filter Trfel? There's a read that sticks out imo. I've been burned before from drawing conclusions from kills though.

And shouldn't Slam have a check?
You mean his read on ShoCkeyy or Fecalfeast? I skimmed his filter, those two seemed most prominent to me. Sure, he talked about Chezinu less, but he was one of few who talked about him at all (at least in any kind of alignment indicative way).

And I guess we'd better wait for Alakaslam to say.


Well I did mean the read that sticks out in Fefes filter, not Slams. Without playing the guessing game with you, I think his Chez read sticks out. Also his GB read, but I'm kinda running with a world where mafia don't vote to kill themselves atm.
Trfel
Profile Joined August 2011
7015 Posts
May 02 2020 05:55 GMT
#911
Yes, sorry, I was talking about Fecalfeast's filter.

I've honestly no clue who is mafia this game
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22424 Posts
May 02 2020 05:58 GMT
#912
On May 02 2020 14:55 Trfel wrote:
Yes, sorry, I was talking about Fecalfeast's filter.

I've honestly no clue who is mafia this game


I thought you had a scumread on Shockeyy. You even called out one of his posts as being a whole load of nothing this day.
I'd lynch him today.
Trfel
Profile Joined August 2011
7015 Posts
May 02 2020 06:17 GMT
#913
On May 02 2020 14:58 Vivax wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 02 2020 14:55 Trfel wrote:
Yes, sorry, I was talking about Fecalfeast's filter.

I've honestly no clue who is mafia this game


I thought you had a scumread on Shockeyy. You even called out one of his posts as being a whole load of nothing this day.
I'd lynch him today.
I was just teasing him really.

I've no idea about ShoCkeyy To me it's really hard to tell when he's town or mafia, I kinda want to scumread him every game. His play this game feels different from last game (where he was mafia), I don't know if that's just him trying to change his play after last game or if he's town this game. His activity is markedly improved from last game too. If I had to take a guess honestly I'd guess town.

Why do you want to lynch him? Just because of the inconsistency on Koshi?

I'm still not sold on GlowingBear being town, raynpelikoneet's lack of activity recently (since he started getting scumread) feels off, Koshi is a big question mark...

You're not mafia, are you?
Alakaslam
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States17336 Posts
May 02 2020 06:22 GMT
#914
On May 02 2020 10:38 Grackaroni wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 02 2020 10:31 Alakaslam wrote:
On May 02 2020 10:28 Grackaroni wrote:
I think Slam may be town. He seems fairly comfortable posting and is taking some more aggressive stances vs people who weren't under pressure at the time in Trfel/Rayn. Sometimes with Slam I feel like he is posting to blend and I don't see that this game. I also don't think he would yell about his play being insulted while called out as scum.

Cause I’m an arrogant SOB but when I’m scum I’m so slick and refined that anyone who knows me can see it right away

I wouldn't count that in future games.

When someone questions you on something it's not helpful to just shout that you wouldn't make a sloppy play as mafia.

Sure it’s not helpful but it’s also how I feel. Transparent, yo
If you think Elon Musk is a Nazi, it is because YOU radicalized him!
Alakaslam
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States17336 Posts
May 02 2020 06:26 GMT
#915
On May 02 2020 14:33 Vivax wrote:
Morning.

Have you read his filter Trfel? There's a read that sticks out imo. I've been burned before from drawing conclusions from kills though.

And shouldn't Slam have a check?

Totes fakeclaim yo

I was saying that like ballz deep
If you think Elon Musk is a Nazi, it is because YOU radicalized him!
Alakaslam
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States17336 Posts
May 02 2020 06:28 GMT
#916
Trfel not one mentionnof Jock

##Unvote

##Vote Trfel


Apologies rayn i think you might not actualky be mafia here
If you think Elon Musk is a Nazi, it is because YOU radicalized him!
Alakaslam
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States17336 Posts
May 02 2020 06:29 GMT
#917
Wait it is 11:30

##Unvote

I need to think with clear head tomorrkw first

But I think

Holy shit my tinfoil mind is telling me Trfel js scum wirh Jockmcploo
If you think Elon Musk is a Nazi, it is because YOU radicalized him!
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22424 Posts
May 02 2020 06:33 GMT
#918
On May 01 2020 02:50 Trfel wrote:
##unvote
##vote ShoCkeyy


Underwhelming filter. I like Vivax's (?) point about ShoCkeyy saying he voted Koshi only for a pressure vote, but also saying that Koshi's opening was a mafia opening. He's yet to give any other reasons to suspect Koshi. And more importantly, he's just saying recently "I like GlowingBear more than Koshi" while voting for Alakaslam, while GlowingBear is leading the lynch and Koshi or Alakaslam aren't really in contention.

Not sold on it but maybe it'll work?


So this was a zero conviction vote?
Why mention him not voting GB then as if it was a reason for him to be mafia?
Trfel
Profile Joined August 2011
7015 Posts
May 02 2020 06:42 GMT
#919
On May 02 2020 15:33 Vivax wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 01 2020 02:50 Trfel wrote:
##unvote
##vote ShoCkeyy


Underwhelming filter. I like Vivax's (?) point about ShoCkeyy saying he voted Koshi only for a pressure vote, but also saying that Koshi's opening was a mafia opening. He's yet to give any other reasons to suspect Koshi. And more importantly, he's just saying recently "I like GlowingBear more than Koshi" while voting for Alakaslam, while GlowingBear is leading the lynch and Koshi or Alakaslam aren't really in contention.

Not sold on it but maybe it'll work?


So this was a zero conviction vote?
Why mention him not voting GB then as if it was a reason for him to be mafia?
Not a zero conviction vote, a low conviction vote. I felt like there was a higher chance of ShoCkeyy flipping mafia than GlowingBear. Koshi (townread at the time) had mentioned he could switch to ShoCkeyy as well, I felt like it was actually a realistic lynch, too.

I do that paragraph's second half is a reason ShoCkeyy could be mafia. Not that he should have voted for Alakaslam, just that he didn't seem to care that his townread was getting lynched and no one was caring about his scumread really. I just feel that ShoCkeyy's play overall fits better as town than mafia right now, specifically the increased post count and some of the reads he's making where you can see his thought process and it's original (not that I agree with it necessarily, but it seems like he's thinking about things).

@Alakaslam, I don't see any reason to lynch Jockmcplop right now. I don't have a great read on him at all (just a gut-read that he is town, but then again I have that for a lot of players, too many...), I have kinda been ignoring trying to read him until he posts more and there is more information to work with.

I'm thinking that maybe I want to lynch Chezinu today.

Sorry if I'm not explaining things clearly, I'm not quite myself tonight.
Trfel
Profile Joined August 2011
7015 Posts
May 02 2020 06:50 GMT
#920
This is the world I'm living in currently. It's not a fun place to be.

Town


Maybe Town?
Vivax
Koshi
raynpelikoneet

Super Weak Townread
ShoCkeyy
Grackaroni
Alakaslam
Jockmcplop

Mafia?
Chezinu
GlowingBear?

Mafia
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