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GlowingBear
Profile Joined May 2014
Brazil12446 Posts
May 01 2020 03:27 GMT
#781
On May 01 2020 07:02 Vivax wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 01 2020 05:19 ShoCkeyy wrote:
You went from this

On May 01 2020 03:59 Alakaslam wrote:
##Unvote
##Vote: GlowingBear


to this

On May 01 2020 04:43 Alakaslam wrote:
I now have GB as top town.


in a span of an hour, why the sudden change of heart?

Judging from your interactions with GB you completely thought of him as town before the above post. You never really interacted with GB, you just called him homboy in a couple of posts immediately then talked about GB with other people when GB stopped posting.

Then all the sudden asked for reasons why you should vote for GB.

Idk but your interaction timeline just seems off about when it comes to GB, especially your voting pattern.


This is actually a good question.


Why do you want so much to paint me as scum now? You're taking every oportunity to throw suspicions at me.
How about YOU tell me why I'm mafia?
I'm adorable.
GlowingBear
Profile Joined May 2014
Brazil12446 Posts
May 01 2020 03:28 GMT
#782
On May 01 2020 06:40 Fecalfeast wrote:
If there's a vig i would be super ok with a shot within gb shockey and chez


I'm not mafia.
I'm adorable.
GlowingBear
Profile Joined May 2014
Brazil12446 Posts
May 01 2020 03:30 GMT
#783
On May 01 2020 06:31 Vivax wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 01 2020 06:26 ShoCkeyy wrote:
I mean, you're asking how I did it, the answer is in your post, I never stopped scum reading Koshi? What makes that super scummy? seems like very straight forward game play to me. I don't know what kind of result you're looking for here. I mean you were in my top four list of being possible scum.

I didn't want to label you as scum, but you seem really protective of Koshi.


I still don't understand how his entrance made him mafia in your eyes and nobody else does either, I think. That's because you dodged the question by saying it was a vote of pressure.

Rayn you will have to explain to me why you didn't keep your vote on GB.


How do you read rayn right now, Vivax?
I'm adorable.
Trfel
Profile Joined August 2011
7015 Posts
May 01 2020 03:33 GMT
#784
On May 01 2020 12:24 GlowingBear wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 01 2020 12:14 Trfel wrote:
On May 01 2020 12:11 GlowingBear wrote:
On May 01 2020 08:03 Vivax wrote:
On May 01 2020 07:59 Trfel wrote:
Vivax, who is your top scumread right now?


GB, Shockeyy is up close.

I'd like Shockeyy to continue his inquiry into Slam though.
I didn't finish looking at EoD from a lynch derailing perspective and wagon analysis, but rayn's switch looks bad to me. I thought he was as confident as me on GB.


LOL Vivax, then finish EoD because it makes no sense to keep calling me scum right now. It should be obvious to you
I'm sorry, care to explain why? I'm not seeing it, what makes it so obvious?


Why would I bother fleshing out my thoughts in the thread if I'm being lynched? Why wouldn't I try to deflect my lynch into any other target? Why wouldn't I hammer Kurumi after he came to the thread and acted so poorly against his lynched? I had an excuse to save myself

I don't understand how you can't 100% see me as town there
Come to think of it, why didn't you vote to save yourself? I guess it doesn't make you mafia since Kurumi flipped town but it seems so weird to not vote to save yourself, even if the alternative is your top townread. I've done that before. Like to me it almost only makes sense as mafia so you could say "look, I didn't vote to save myself!" because there's no reason as town not to vote to save yourself?

Can you explain why your reads were flopping around so much towards the deadline? You were first convinced on Jockmcplop and Alakaslam being mafia, then kinda thinking raynpelikoneet might be mafia. Then writing a half-case on raynpelikoneet, then deciding that mafia was Koshi and Jockmcplop and raynpelikoneet or Alakaslam. Seems like a few unexplained leaps.
GlowingBear
Profile Joined May 2014
Brazil12446 Posts
May 01 2020 03:35 GMT
#785
Alright,

Slam reevaluating me makes him probably town. Trfel is being consistently interested in solving the game which makes him town too. FF is town.
Vivax was town for me but the way he is approaching me doesn't feel right. I need him to answer my questions.
Jock is probably town because I hardly believe mafia would AFK and not vote.

Koshi is mafia because he has been misrepresenting every thing I post to have me lynched and I have no idea what he thinks of other players. All he has done is pointing out how bad he doesn't like me. It's a forced tunnel.
Rayn is mafia for the reasons I've already told.

No idea about either Chezinu and Grack.

I guess that's all?
I'm adorable.
GlowingBear
Profile Joined May 2014
Brazil12446 Posts
May 01 2020 03:41 GMT
#786
On May 01 2020 12:33 Trfel wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 01 2020 12:24 GlowingBear wrote:
On May 01 2020 12:14 Trfel wrote:
On May 01 2020 12:11 GlowingBear wrote:
On May 01 2020 08:03 Vivax wrote:
On May 01 2020 07:59 Trfel wrote:
Vivax, who is your top scumread right now?


GB, Shockeyy is up close.

I'd like Shockeyy to continue his inquiry into Slam though.
I didn't finish looking at EoD from a lynch derailing perspective and wagon analysis, but rayn's switch looks bad to me. I thought he was as confident as me on GB.


LOL Vivax, then finish EoD because it makes no sense to keep calling me scum right now. It should be obvious to you
I'm sorry, care to explain why? I'm not seeing it, what makes it so obvious?


Why would I bother fleshing out my thoughts in the thread if I'm being lynched? Why wouldn't I try to deflect my lynch into any other target? Why wouldn't I hammer Kurumi after he came to the thread and acted so poorly against his lynched? I had an excuse to save myself

I don't understand how you can't 100% see me as town there
Come to think of it, why didn't you vote to save yourself? I guess it doesn't make you mafia since Kurumi flipped town but it seems so weird to not vote to save yourself, even if the alternative is your top townread. I've done that before. Like to me it almost only makes sense as mafia so you could say "look, I didn't vote to save myself!" because there's no reason as town not to vote to save yourself?

Can you explain why your reads were flopping around so much towards the deadline? You were first convinced on Jockmcplop and Alakaslam being mafia, then kinda thinking raynpelikoneet might be mafia. Then writing a half-case on raynpelikoneet, then deciding that mafia was Koshi and Jockmcplop and raynpelikoneet or Alakaslam. Seems like a few unexplained leaps.


Slam felt he was uninterested in the game and just surviving. He was asking to much to be seen as not giving a damn how he looks and, therefore, he should be town? It felt forced and I started to believe he was mafia for this. Now I see that he is constantly reevaluating reads once new information is displayed in thread, so he might be town for this.

I just posted what I think of Koshi and I've already admitted I had an associative read between him and jock. He started hard defending jock and hard scumreading me out of nowhere, distorting everything I was saying. I was already wary of rayn but I've also explaine here why. I flip my reads very frequently, it shouldn't be a surprise.

I didn't move to Kurumi because I thought he was town, and people could've changed to any other target that I could get behind.
I'm adorable.
GlowingBear
Profile Joined May 2014
Brazil12446 Posts
May 01 2020 03:43 GMT
#787
Actually, to be honest, I didn't care much if I was gonna be the lynch because I've done everything I could and because of IRL issues I cannot be really invested in this game so, if after everything I've done near EoD wasn't enough to convince I'm town, I'd let town choose whatever they wanted.
I'm adorable.
GlowingBear
Profile Joined May 2014
Brazil12446 Posts
May 01 2020 03:43 GMT
#788
I gotta sleep now. I'll answer any other question tomorrow.
I'm adorable.
Trfel
Profile Joined August 2011
7015 Posts
May 01 2020 03:43 GMT
#789
Okay, thanks again. I'm slightly busy now but I will take a closer look at what you have posted later tonight. Feel better soon.
GlowingBear
Profile Joined May 2014
Brazil12446 Posts
May 01 2020 03:44 GMT
#790
On May 01 2020 12:43 Trfel wrote:
Okay, thanks again. I'm slightly busy now but I will take a closer look at what you have posted later tonight. Feel better soon.


Thanks Trfel
I'm adorable.
Fecalfeast
Profile Joined January 2010
Canada11355 Posts
May 01 2020 03:50 GMT
#791
On May 01 2020 11:11 Trfel wrote:
Fecalfeast, do you have any response to my suspicions of you? Specifically, you seem to throw suspicion everywhere, it feels like you are reaching for reasons to scumread everyone. Primarily early Day 1.

I have scum reads or at least scumleans on shockey slam gb chezinu and atm grack

And i was scumming kurumi but actually can you show me where i threw suspicion everyehere? Pointing out or questioning perceived contradictions is hardly throwing suspicion
ModeratorINFLATE YOUR POST COUNT; PLAY TL MAFIA
Fecalfeast
Profile Joined January 2010
Canada11355 Posts
May 01 2020 03:54 GMT
#792
I have read the recent posts and honestly gb probably isn't scum anymore
ModeratorINFLATE YOUR POST COUNT; PLAY TL MAFIA
Trfel
Profile Joined August 2011
7015 Posts
May 01 2020 04:02 GMT
#793
On May 01 2020 12:50 Fecalfeast wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 01 2020 11:11 Trfel wrote:
Fecalfeast, do you have any response to my suspicions of you? Specifically, you seem to throw suspicion everywhere, it feels like you are reaching for reasons to scumread everyone. Primarily early Day 1.

I have scum reads or at least scumleans on shockey slam gb chezinu and atm grack

And i was scumming kurumi but actually can you show me where i threw suspicion everyehere? Pointing out or questioning perceived contradictions is hardly throwing suspicion
Those are a lot of scum leans, no? Given that there are only three mafia in the game?
ShoCkeyy
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
7815 Posts
May 01 2020 04:14 GMT
#794
GB what are your thoughts on me?
Life?
Trfel
Profile Joined August 2011
7015 Posts
May 01 2020 04:48 GMT
#795
On May 01 2020 12:20 GlowingBear wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 01 2020 12:10 Trfel wrote:
For the record, Jockmcplop was joking in both of his posts. Thanks for explaining though.

Care to summarize why raynpelikoneet is mafia to you? I skimmed your filter for it again and I don't believe you ever clearly laid it out. No rush, if you want to play Diplomacy first I'll be here a few hours.
I've already talked about rayn, but okay, I'll flesh out.

I think rayn has been under the radar and not actually taking hard stances.
Early day1 he said you had a thought process that made you look townie. What is so particularly townie in thinking "I'm lazy haha won't be posting much okay lol"? There's nothing townie to read into it. His read seemed forced.
Then he later went on the game just talking a bit but without taking any hard stance. He was suspicious of Kurumi but didn't push his lynch. He decided to vote for jock but I couldn't find anything in his filter where he said why jock was mafia other than "jock can look very townie when he is mafia". That's not a reason to vote him.
He then went under the radar and only changed his vote to sheep Koshi on a faint reason to call me mafia. He decided I wasn't a good lynch today and went against Kurumi who we know is town.
it doesn't make sense, it feels rayn is just trying to survive. I thought that he might be blue because of this, I didn't really want to engage in a shitfest saying RAYN IS MAFIA WHARRGARBL.
But now, thinking about it, he is most likely mafia instead of blue.
To clarify the bolded red section, raynpelikoneet did vote for Jockmcplop over the vote/unvote thing on Koshi. The same reason you were scumreading Jockmcplop.

I'm sorry, maybe I'm just being blind here but I'm not really seeing it. I had a longer post written, I can discuss it further if you want, but the short of it is to me it felt like raynpelikoneet cared about who got lynched while if he was mafia, he could have justified parking his vote a lot of places (assuming you are town, since this is your argument, you being one of them). I'm far from 100% on raynpelikoneet being town, I just don't really see the reasons to scumread him that you've shared.

The rest of what GlowingBear has posted makes a lot more sense to me. I'll likely be around for a while if anyone wants to talk about anything, if I get bored though I may fall asleep.
Alakaslam
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States17336 Posts
May 01 2020 04:52 GMT
#796
I am now pretty sure Rayn is mafia. Will shower then return.
If you think Elon Musk is a Nazi, it is because YOU radicalized him!
Trfel
Profile Joined August 2011
7015 Posts
May 01 2020 04:54 GMT
#797
On May 01 2020 13:52 Alakaslam wrote:
I am now pretty sure Rayn is mafia. Will shower then return.
You mean, because of how he voted for ShoCkeyy? Or what?
Fecalfeast
Profile Joined January 2010
Canada11355 Posts
May 01 2020 04:56 GMT
#798
On May 01 2020 13:02 Trfel wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 01 2020 12:50 Fecalfeast wrote:
On May 01 2020 11:11 Trfel wrote:
Fecalfeast, do you have any response to my suspicions of you? Specifically, you seem to throw suspicion everywhere, it feels like you are reaching for reasons to scumread everyone. Primarily early Day 1.

I have scum reads or at least scumleans on shockey slam gb chezinu and atm grack

And i was scumming kurumi but actually can you show me where i threw suspicion everyehere? Pointing out or questioning perceived contradictions is hardly throwing suspicion
Those are a lot of scum leans, no? Given that there are only three mafia in the game?

what are you even saying?

I'm only allowed 3 suspects maximum??
ModeratorINFLATE YOUR POST COUNT; PLAY TL MAFIA
Trfel
Profile Joined August 2011
7015 Posts
May 01 2020 04:58 GMT
#799
On May 01 2020 13:56 Fecalfeast wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 01 2020 13:02 Trfel wrote:
On May 01 2020 12:50 Fecalfeast wrote:
On May 01 2020 11:11 Trfel wrote:
Fecalfeast, do you have any response to my suspicions of you? Specifically, you seem to throw suspicion everywhere, it feels like you are reaching for reasons to scumread everyone. Primarily early Day 1.

I have scum reads or at least scumleans on shockey slam gb chezinu and atm grack

And i was scumming kurumi but actually can you show me where i threw suspicion everyehere? Pointing out or questioning perceived contradictions is hardly throwing suspicion
Those are a lot of scum leans, no? Given that there are only three mafia in the game?

what are you even saying?

I'm only allowed 3 suspects maximum??
No, I just find it a bit strange and slightly suspect. But you've answered my question, instead of shying away from it you're standing by it confidently but not in a brazen/brash manner. So thank you.
Alakaslam
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States17336 Posts
May 01 2020 05:10 GMT
#800
On May 01 2020 13:54 Trfel wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 01 2020 13:52 Alakaslam wrote:
I am now pretty sure Rayn is mafia. Will shower then return.
You mean, because of how he voted for ShoCkeyy? Or what?

I didnt know he did that. No that is not why.
If you think Elon Musk is a Nazi, it is because YOU radicalized him!
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