EPTIf you're so sure that i'm scum wouldn't it bother you that people are putting their votes on me for bad reasons? Doesn't that implicate those people in a bussing situation?
Nah. You don't care. Tomorrow doesn't even matter at this point, right?
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If you're so sure that i'm scum wouldn't it bother you that people are putting their votes on me for bad reasons? Doesn't that implicate those people in a bussing situation? Nah. You don't care. Tomorrow doesn't even matter at this point, right? | ||
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##unvote ##vote: trfel | ||
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trfel vivax chez makes no sense thinking about it. | ||
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On May 02 2020 15:50 Trfel wrote: This is the world I'm living in currently. It's not a fun place to be. Town  Maybe Town? Vivax Koshi raynpelikoneet Super Weak Townread ShoCkeyy Grackaroni Alakaslam Jockmcplop Mafia? Chezinu GlowingBear? Mafia On May 02 2020 23:17 Trfel wrote: Honestly it doesn't really, especially since GlowingBear said the same thing first. On May 03 2020 06:56 Trfel wrote: Hm, that makes sense, fair enough. I'll keep my vote on GlowingBear for now (I'm most confident he is mafia) but I guess I could vote for raynpelikoneet if things keep going this way. Also, sorry Jockmcplop, realized I forgot to respond to you. I am sorry for being incorrect. For some reason I'm having trouble finding the posts in your filter. I take it the reason you ask is because you're scumreading Koshi too, so the same logic that it looks suspicious for GlowingBear should look suspicious for you too. That makes sense but I don't think it really applies to this case, since this is more of an emotional point. GlowingBear should be much more emotionally invested in his scumread of Koshi if he is town, and I would expect that to come out much more in his play. On May 04 2020 02:59 Trfel wrote: The other thing is, Jockmcplop seemed like a decent lynch when I reread his filter. He hasn't really been pushing his own ideas, most of his posts are just commentary on other people's posts. It feels like he is "thread police," posting about the validity of other people's ideas, not making his own. And that scares me a lot. I don't know For now I think the difference is I don't want to vote with GlowingBear.##unvote ##vote Jockmcplop Here's trfel on day 2. He has me as a slight townread. Then i question why he is scumreading GB for something that I also did, but not scumreading me for it. Seems like a strange inconsistency. Next thing I know, trfel has me as his top scumread and I haven't moved from there since. Look at the third quote here, he clearly wants to kill GB and still has a weak townread on me. There was no reason he switched from wanting to kill GB to wanting to kill me. GB was his main target. The only reason for the switch to me was that they decided to kill rayn and get everyone to vote me afterwards. Its not a tunnel, its a plan. Just look at the progression. It makes no sense. | ||
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On May 06 2020 16:40 Trfel wrote: Jockmcplop, I'm sorry if I'm being a jerk. The smiley was meant as a joke, to tease you, not insult you. I am terribly sorry if I am somehow wrong. It's just the way I see the game right now, I don't think I am. And as Day 3 has progressed, it only fits my view more and more. I'll try to back off a bit and let you do your thing, feel free to ask me anything though and I will try to politely discuss. You have a vote to support with reasons, after all. I'm not offended trfel you are doing what you have to do! | ||
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On May 06 2020 16:41 Vivax wrote: Sorry Jock, but I don't believe you'd actually believe Trfel is mafia here because of a few gaps in his reads transitions. You could open up any townie filter, including mine, and you'd see me wanting to lynch someone more one day and then another the day after for a bazillion of possible reasons that don't mean someone is mafia. It really only makes sense to think what you're thinking if GB + Trfel are mafia. Then Trfel would have a reason to put GB on the backburner today and to have a clear preference to lynch you instead. Arguing with mafia about why they are mafia isn't really where i wanted to be at this morning tbh. It makes sense because i'm considering what it is that mafia is trying to do, and how, why and when they are trying to do it. Trfel here just fits perfectly. The kill on rayn leads to my mislynch, there's a direct line between the two. Sometime on day trfel suddenly goes from a weak townread on me to a hard scumread and then rayn dies and here we are. | ||
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On May 06 2020 16:52 Vivax wrote: So Jock maybe you can explain to me why Chez decided to vote for you together with his entire delegation of scumreads. Because that's the only guy I'd lynch over you. I can't explain anything chez does. Either he's scum, and i'm totally wrong about my other scumreads, and that's why he voted for me, or he's town and doing something i don't understand. It doesn't make much sense i agree. If I wasn't so sure on trfel and you being scum i would totally lynch chez here but the three of you as a scum team just doesn't work. If chez is scum i literally have no idea who the other scum are. Slam maybe. I can't really see it though. So you think chez and I are scum, who do you think the third scum is? | ||
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On May 06 2020 17:00 Vivax wrote: The way I see it you're telling me my two top town are my teammates and that doesn't fly to well, that goes without saying. I also don't think you'd believe rayn to have been wrong about everything before getting shot. At the very least you should have a mild suspicion of Slam, or some slamdunk (no pun intended) argument for him being town. I already made my argument for slam being scum. I went and looked at every single scum game in his filter. It took me absolutely ages tbh, but I didn't make a big quote wall or anything so it probably got ignored. He just doesn't take things personally in his scum games and doesn't get stressed out like he is here by people scumreading him. Look at what he's saying and think the opposite. When he says he doesn't care what people think its a dead giveaway that he does. But as mafia his posting is the opposite, its chill and fun, exciteable even. Go look at his previous mafia games. You should be able to see the difference. | ||
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in his filter means *in the tl archive. | ||
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For Slam being town not scum morning posting :/ | ||
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On May 06 2020 17:08 Vivax wrote: Gubgub or slam. Don't really feel like it's something I have to think about today. Unless you are town that is, but then your job is to convince me, maybe others why one of those is mafia. We lose otherwise. The way I'm looking at it you're essentially self-destructing with weird hipster reads and I don't take any responsibility at all if you get mislynched. I dont know how to respond to this. I'm going to come back to the thread later when there's some townies here. | ||
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On May 06 2020 17:08 Vivax wrote: The way I'm looking at it you're essentially self-destructing with weird hipster reads and I don't take any responsibility at all if you get mislynched. before i go though i just want to highlight this. back in a few hours. | ||
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On May 06 2020 21:58 Koshi wrote: Ah well. it's not like all town are pushing the same wagon and it is for sure certain that Vivax and Jock are not both mafia. So let's go ##unvote ##Vote Grack Well played mafiosis. What about rayn's green check? You think he's godfather? Could be I guess I didn't even think of that. I assumed rayn's check on grack was all good. Let me go look at grack. | ||
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On May 06 2020 23:00 GlowingBear wrote: You're putting in your scumteam a townread and a green checked player. STONKS What's your scumteam right now? | ||
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On May 06 2020 22:47 Jockmcplop wrote: What about rayn's green check? You think he's godfather? Could be I guess I didn't even think of that. I assumed rayn's check on grack was all good. Let me go look at grack. I've looked through his filter and its just meh to be honest. Koshi how can we lynch a greencheck in MYLO with 3 mafia left? I think its much more likely that koshi is mafia lol. | ||
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On May 07 2020 02:57 Alakaslam wrote: Now we just need the Jock who plops. Although I think that vote is already where it needs to be so I'm here until EoD. Why would he not claim earlier in the day and have your vote somewhere other than the scum he claims he caught? It doesn't make sense. If he wasn't going to claim because he didn't see himself being in danger he would have wanted to signal that he had caught scum asap in the thread, but instead of that he spent the whole day telling everyone that i'm mafia. Unless he always planned to claim at EoD but that doesn't make sense from a town perspective either. My vote is in the right place for sure. | ||
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Was there any signal that he had caught gb? If I was wondering whether to claim or not the first thing i would do with a caught scum is find a way to get it into the thread that i had caught them or at least leave a ninja vote on them or something. Keeping it a secret until later on makes no sense at all unless you know for sure you're going to claim at EoD but why? | ||
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He had to leave. It was the last possible moment really. | ||
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 Thanks to my mafia team for saving my ass repeatedly! | ||
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