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On April 06 2020 22:05 Hapahauli wrote:
Lurkedy-lurk-lurk.
I'm just going to get some food but if you could answer this it would be appreciated:
On April 06 2020 21:06 Jockmcplop wrote:Show nested quote +On April 06 2020 21:00 Jockmcplop wrote:
Why do you think hap didn't give a proper read of shockeyy, even though he's an important part of the game given that hap is voting for the person who is voting for him?
He says he sees shockeyy as lynchbait which infers that he townreads him but doesn't go into any more detail than that. The question he asked to shockeyy at the start of the game also looks random af to be honest, especially with no follow up. It looks like he wants to get shockeyy talking, but he hates that i have a pressure vote on shockeyy later. Hap, when you asked shockeyy what his mafia experience is is that because you wanted him to make some posts in the thread to help you read him? Do you have a read on him now? If so, what it is, if not, why are you lynching me for voting for shockeyy?
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My read on trfel has changed:
+ Show Spoiler +On April 06 2020 20:30 Jockmcplop wrote:Show nested quote +On April 05 2020 23:17 Hapahauli wrote:On April 05 2020 23:10 raynpelikoneet wrote:On April 05 2020 23:07 Hapahauli wrote:
Typically, a town mindset is "I think you are scum, therefore I will convince others to vote for you."
Let's say this is the case considering every player. How did you show this mindset in your first three posts of the game? My posts have fundamentally different motivations than Jockey. For one, I don't consider Shockey or Trefel scum-reads. I consider them lynchbait. There's something about their posting that triggers my "gut", and I'd rather try to engage with them early-game and/or think aloud in the thread a bit. Had the thread not kicked up while I was fast asleep, I probably would have continued trying to get them to talk a bit more and open up. Jockey is instead directly scumreading Trefel. This post triggers me massively. I have spent the entire game trying to get both trfel and shockeyy talking. That, and talking to rayn, is basically all I have done. I have been directly interacting with trfel for basically the entire game and my vote on shockeyy is an attempt to get him talking. Scumreading people and picking out the faults in their posts is a fantastic way to get them talking and it generally works (it worked well with trfel). This looks like hapa just grasping at straws trying to find 'original' ways to verbalise his convenient scum read of me. -------
I'm getting less scummy feelings about trfel as the game goes on. He just feels more townie than he did at the beginning of the game.
I haven't thought about my current read on BC.
Give me a 10 minutes i'll look through his filter.
The point you made about his algorithmic view is interesting though, it explains why he was so angry at my posting, I have no idea how you are supposed to play this game I just play it and do what i feel.
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On April 06 2020 22:45 Vivax wrote:Show nested quote +On April 06 2020 21:00 Jockmcplop wrote:
Why do you think hap didn't give a proper read of shockeyy, even though he's an important part of the game given that hap is voting for the person who is voting for him?
He says he sees shockeyy as lynchbait which infers that he townreads him but doesn't go into any more detail than that. I'm not sure if you asked me this, but Shockeyy boils down to whether you believe he's scum doing nothing, or town doing nothing. He deserves to be lynched, sure, but how can anyone have a 'proper' read on him?
ehh... maybe
I just look at how hap has interacted/referred to shockeyy and it gives me the chills.
Hap refusing to answer my question above absolutely sucks and his answer to that would have helped me read him so i'm taking his refusal to answer as a sign that he is mafia.
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On April 05 2020 15:18 BloodyC0bbler wrote:
Town
Bloodyc0bbler
Leaning town
Shockeyy
Jockmcplop
Null
Chezinu
Rayn
Rels
Lean scum
Vivax
Scum
Trfel
Hapa
On April 06 2020 05:06 BloodyC0bbler wrote:
The how is purely I didnt find his entrance as jarring mixed with people i had scum reads focusing him.
ATM id drop him down to Rels / Chez territory of null read.
Here I will update my lists for you
Town
Bloodyc0bbler
Lean Town
Rayn
Vivax
Null
Rels
Shockeyy
Chezinu
Lean scum
Jock
trfel
Scum
Hapa
There is a world (with how you are currently being active) where I could see my read on you being wrong. So please keep up the posting =)
I don't like the way he jumped on the jock train with everyone else but I can understand it if he sees my posts as objectively bad. I don't get why though.
He's moved you up to being a town read which is confusing. I don't see how your play has changed since he was leaning scum on you. Is he just following other people's reads?
The other changes seem natural to me, shockeyy down to null and rayn up to town lean.
Vivax, if you say there's an algorithmic way of thinking about mafia and you get where BC is coming from with that, would you say he is consistent about through day 1 so far? Surely that's a way we can get a read on him, but I'm not familiar with the idea.
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On April 06 2020 23:24 raynpelikoneet wrote:
He said Vivax wasn't explaining his reads until he did, and his position changed on the list after that.
Yeah that checks out.
BC still a townread for me then.
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On April 07 2020 01:56 Hapahauli wrote:
Oh oh carry on. We both misread each other.
I said I had a strong preference against lynching Rels, and that the lynch should be between myself and Jock.
If rels is town mafia definitely don't want him lynched. mmhmm
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On April 13 2020 10:38 ShoCkeyy wrote:
Sorry Jock, I almost won the game for us D:
You played well I thought. I completely screwed up on day 1 but you're right you almost had it.
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On April 14 2020 05:07 Vivax wrote:Show nested quote +On April 14 2020 04:48 ShoCkeyy wrote:On April 13 2020 15:44 Jockmcplop wrote:On April 13 2020 10:38 ShoCkeyy wrote:
Sorry Jock, I almost won the game for us D: You played well I thought. I completely screwed up on day 1 but you're right you almost had it. Shitttt your day 1 play was good enough to never have 100% suspicion on me, so I really commend you for that, and thank you cause w.o that, I would of been a goner D2 haha. Not to be a dick here, but this is probably the type of post you should never make about your teammate (edit: Actually never) Show nested quote +On April 05 2020 14:23 Jockmcplop wrote:On April 05 2020 14:05 BloodyC0bbler wrote:
I see something "off" but as of right now not alignment indicative. I just need to see more to swing either way.
Trfel / hap are where my eyes are focused atm What do you think of Shockeyy's entrance? His tone seems weird to me. I don't know what that means for shockeyy though tbh.
Nah its not being a dick.. advice is good cos i don't really know what i'm doing most of the time.
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