[N]Emergency Quarantine Mafia - Page 61

On April 03 2020 01:53 Rels wrote:

this is townie too lol. I would expect you to continue preparing my lynch tomorrow if you're scum

On April 02 2020 22:54 GlowingBear wrote:
Trfel, I've read all you've posted except for LS. If LS is mafia, he won the game. He's based town for me and I'm sure he will be the night kill tonight.

About Rels: Half of your case is assuming mafia would bus and his vote on Sentinel proves he is mafia. The second half is that Rels isn't really inspiring in this game and is parroting people, not really bringing lots of original thoughts. This I agree and was the reason I was wary of him.

About Palmar: Most of your points can be applied to anyone. 4th point is associative and it could be applied to me, for instance, that decided to switch from my top scumread to a townread (100% bad play). Not explaining too much of his reads isn't a mafia trait, he just said what he thinks and I find that pretty genuine. I also prefer not to say much, one liners are enough. He keeps saying "keep the game simple" and he is doing that.
The only point I think you can be right is being uninterested. That could come from both alignments anyway.

Now, I'm not saying Palmar couldn't be mafia. I'm saying these points aren't really convincing me. You know what does make me think Palmar could be mafia? Sentinel trying to have me lynched instead of Palmar.

I would be lynching you today, although I like that you're trying and if you are town, it wouldn't be the first time I was dumb enough to not see it. But Chez made me want to believe Rels is mafia and I think it's fun. If the flips red I'll always follow the House of Brown.

On April 03 2020 00:52 Palmar wrote:
Actually fuck it, I'm changing my mind.

Trfel has a 4 page filter
Rels has a 9 page filter

I'm voting Trfel

This is a good case.

On April 03 2020 00:58 Palmar wrote:


This post is one of the reasons why Trfel was in my initial 4 "kill these and win" list. If he townreads Vivax, just say it, why format the read in a form of question? Is he apologetic about having a read?

On April 03 2020 02:05 Trfel wrote:
Rels' vote on [UoN]Sentinel doesn't prove he is mafia, I literally said it's a wash. AKA I can't discern anything from it.

Why would town ever not explain their reads? Especially to the degree that Palmar has been? I don't understand.

In short, not all associations are equal. But I have also discussed those already, I'd be happy to discuss other things as well. I think the most suspicious thing in Rels' filter is how he switches from Palmar to [UoN]Sentinel on Day 2. Obviously this is extremely suspect given [UoN]Sentinel's alignment, but also makes no sense on its own (look at the way he does it, not just the fact that he did). To me it feels fake. He dropped his vote for (IMO) suspect reasons* and voted for his #2 suspect over his #1 suspect for no reason.

On April 03 2020 01:20 GlowingBear wrote:
In other words, it's not about putting effort in being wrong, it's putting effort in sterile things. He doesn't think Rels is Mafia? Why is he putting effort in reinforcing the suspicions?

On April 03 2020 01:26 LightningStrike wrote:
Tbh I'll put my vote on Trfel I think he'll flip scum more often than Rels and Palmar atm especially given Rels doing serious work right no'w.

On April 03 2020 02:12 GlowingBear wrote:




Isn't this associative read, Trfel?

I think Palmar is explaining, but in one liners.

On April 03 2020 02:14 Trfel wrote:
Sure, if you just literally ignore all of the posts I've been making? Why is a stupidly easy meta check the only "serious work," ignoring all of my cases and analyses?

On April 03 2020 02:17 LightningStrike wrote:

You were afk at the time????

On April 03 2020 02:12 Trfel wrote:
I'm not putting in effort to make other people suspect Rels, I'm trying to figure out Rels' alignment. I posted a large case on Palmar with quality content to persuade people to lynch Palmar instead of Rels. PLEASE stop with this nonsense.

On April 03 2020 01:09 Palmar wrote:


I hated the "pressure" vote you put on me. It's a super dumb idea. It's one of the reasons I contemplated you just being mafia but decided I wanted to go with "dumb" instead.

Then you agreed on sent and promised to case Trfel.

There is no need to case Trfel, and there already a really, really good case on Sent, the fact that he's not doing anything at all. Even then, why didn't you immediately vote Sent to "pressure" him like you did me?

GB even asked you why you wouldn't vote him, you just said Trfel is more likely.

It feels like we had to drag the vote on Sentinel out of you, and I don't know why you promised a case on Trfel. In fact, if you couldn't write the case up, I doubt you had one. Cases come, at least to me, sorta organically. I just write them as I'm thinking.

Also I think Chez is town and he's a pretty good scumhunter, so sheeping him is smart.

On April 03 2020 02:17 Trfel wrote:
It's not the fact that he did it, that makes sense as mafia but could come from town. It's the way that he does it that makes no sense, regardless of [UoN]Sentinel's alignment. That is the suspicious part.

Does that make sense? I can try to word it differently if not.

On April 03 2020 02:19 GlowingBear wrote:


I'm sorry if you're town, Trfel, I just really can't see it. I understand what you're saying here, but I don't believe it.

If I am wrong, at least I'll understand it's a meta thing. Please don't be frustrated

On April 03 2020 02:21 LightningStrike wrote:
But it's considered serious work when not everyone would do that as scum and just make up bullshit reasoning. Here he decided to check out that game and actually found something disproved Palmar's point on you.

On April 03 2020 02:22 Trfel wrote:
No it is frustrating, because I've lost two games in a row by being lynched. I'm sick of this. My play has been solid, I'm confident Palmar is mafia, and everyone's lynching me instead while Palmar and his one-liners get away free.

On April 03 2020 02:21 GlowingBear wrote:


You see, I disagree that it doesn't make sense. He was pressuring Palmar, got a response, went to kill someone that could surely be Mafia. I think it makes total sense