On April 03 2020 02:22 Trfel wrote:
Does my work not count as serious?!
Does my work not count as serious?!
You are doing serious work right now. Very undecided right now >.<
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LightningStrike
United States14276 Posts
April 02 2020 17:26 GMT
#1221
On April 03 2020 02:22 Trfel wrote: Show nested quote + Does my work not count as serious?!On April 03 2020 02:21 LightningStrike wrote: But it's considered serious work when not everyone would do that as scum and just make up bullshit reasoning. Here he decided to check out that game and actually found something disproved Palmar's point on you. You are doing serious work right now. Very undecided right now >.< | ||
Trfel
7015 Posts
April 02 2020 17:26 GMT
#1222
On April 03 2020 02:24 GlowingBear wrote: I doubt it'll matter at this point, but I appreciate the thought and consideration. Thank you.Show nested quote + On April 03 2020 02:22 Trfel wrote: On April 03 2020 02:19 GlowingBear wrote: No it is frustrating, because I've lost two games in a row by being lynched. I'm sick of this. My play has been solid, I'm confident Palmar is mafia, and everyone's lynching me instead while Palmar and his one-liners get away free.On April 03 2020 02:12 Trfel wrote: On April 03 2020 01:20 GlowingBear wrote: I'm not putting in effort to make other people suspect Rels, I'm trying to figure out Rels' alignment. I posted a large case on Palmar with quality content to persuade people to lynch Palmar instead of Rels. PLEASE stop with this nonsense.In other words, it's not about putting effort in being wrong, it's putting effort in sterile things. He doesn't think Rels is Mafia? Why is he putting effort in reinforcing the suspicions? I'm sorry if you're town, Trfel, I just really can't see it. I understand what you're saying here, but I don't believe it. If I am wrong, at least I'll understand it's a meta thing. Please don't be frustrated You know what, Trfel. You're right. You're trying. Palmar isn't. I'll lynch Palmar instead. ##Unvote ##Vote: Palmar Remember this for when I die. | ||
Trfel
7015 Posts
April 02 2020 17:26 GMT
#1223
On April 03 2020 02:26 LightningStrike wrote: WHAT ABOUT ALL OF LAST NIGHT?!?!!Show nested quote + On April 03 2020 02:22 Trfel wrote: On April 03 2020 02:21 LightningStrike wrote: Does my work not count as serious?!But it's considered serious work when not everyone would do that as scum and just make up bullshit reasoning. Here he decided to check out that game and actually found something disproved Palmar's point on you. You are doing serious work right now. Very undecided right now >.< | ||
Tubesock
United States2726 Posts
April 02 2020 17:27 GMT
#1224
Day 3 of quarantine Votes Trfel: (3) Rels: (1) Palmar: (2) Trfel, Trfel is set to die with 3 votes The deadline for the day is Thursday, Apr 02 6:00pm GMT (GMT+00:00) which is in VOTE THREAD HERE (CLICK ME) | ||
LightningStrike
United States14276 Posts
April 02 2020 17:27 GMT
#1225
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GlowingBear
Brazil12446 Posts
April 02 2020 17:28 GMT
#1226
On April 03 2020 02:25 Trfel wrote: Show nested quote + Lemme copy paste this again.On April 03 2020 02:21 GlowingBear wrote: On April 03 2020 02:17 Trfel wrote: On April 03 2020 02:12 GlowingBear wrote: It's not the fact that he did it, that makes sense as mafia but could come from town. It's the way that he does it that makes no sense, regardless of [UoN]Sentinel's alignment. That is the suspicious part.On April 03 2020 02:05 Trfel wrote: On April 02 2020 22:54 GlowingBear wrote: Rels' vote on [UoN]Sentinel doesn't prove he is mafia, I literally said it's a wash. AKA I can't discern anything from it.Trfel, I've read all you've posted except for LS. If LS is mafia, he won the game. He's based town for me and I'm sure he will be the night kill tonight. About Rels: Half of your case is assuming mafia would bus and his vote on Sentinel proves he is mafia. The second half is that Rels isn't really inspiring in this game and is parroting people, not really bringing lots of original thoughts. This I agree and was the reason I was wary of him. About Palmar: Most of your points can be applied to anyone. 4th point is associative and it could be applied to me, for instance, that decided to switch from my top scumread to a townread (100% bad play). Not explaining too much of his reads isn't a mafia trait, he just said what he thinks and I find that pretty genuine. I also prefer not to say much, one liners are enough. He keeps saying "keep the game simple" and he is doing that. The only point I think you can be right is being uninterested. That could come from both alignments anyway. Now, I'm not saying Palmar couldn't be mafia. I'm saying these points aren't really convincing me. You know what does make me think Palmar could be mafia? Sentinel trying to have me lynched instead of Palmar. I would be lynching you today, although I like that you're trying and if you are town, it wouldn't be the first time I was dumb enough to not see it. But Chez made me want to believe Rels is mafia and I think it's fun. If the flips red I'll always follow the House of Brown. Why would town ever not explain their reads? Especially to the degree that Palmar has been? I don't understand. In short, not all associations are equal. But I have also discussed those already, I'd be happy to discuss other things as well. I think the most suspicious thing in Rels' filter is how he switches from Palmar to [UoN]Sentinel on Day 2. Obviously this is extremely suspect given [UoN]Sentinel's alignment, but also makes no sense on its own (look at the way he does it, not just the fact that he did). To me it feels fake. He dropped his vote for (IMO) suspect reasons* and voted for his #2 suspect over his #1 suspect for no reason. Isn't this associative read, Trfel? I think Palmar is explaining, but in one liners. Does that make sense? I can try to word it differently if not. You see, I disagree that it doesn't make sense. He was pressuring Palmar, got a response, went to kill someone that could surely be Mafia. I think it makes total sense I think the most suspicious thing in Rels' filter is how he switches from Palmar to [UoN]Sentinel on Day 2. Obviously this is extremely suspect given [UoN]Sentinel's alignment, but also makes no sense on its own (look at the way he does it, not just the fact that he did). To me it feels fake. He dropped his vote for (IMO) suspect reasons* and voted for his #2 suspect over his #1 suspect for no reason. *I know he said he just voted for Palmar as a pressure vote. Palmar made a list post with little to no reasoning. Rels found it to be towny (how?) and also qualified this as Palmar playing the game (I strongly disagree, he showed barely any effort or thought). The point in the asterisk is key. Rels had no reason to let up, he still has failed to explain why that post would affect anything in his reads. That's where we disagree. I think his list post was slightly townie for how original and bold it was. Mafia usually don't play so carefree like that. Which is why I think his vote switch is perfectly fine. That's not the reason Rels should be scumread IMHO | ||
LightningStrike
United States14276 Posts
April 02 2020 17:29 GMT
#1227
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GlowingBear
Brazil12446 Posts
April 02 2020 17:30 GMT
#1228
On April 03 2020 02:26 Trfel wrote: Show nested quote + I doubt it'll matter at this point, but I appreciate the thought and consideration. Thank you.On April 03 2020 02:24 GlowingBear wrote: On April 03 2020 02:22 Trfel wrote: On April 03 2020 02:19 GlowingBear wrote: No it is frustrating, because I've lost two games in a row by being lynched. I'm sick of this. My play has been solid, I'm confident Palmar is mafia, and everyone's lynching me instead while Palmar and his one-liners get away free.On April 03 2020 02:12 Trfel wrote: On April 03 2020 01:20 GlowingBear wrote: I'm not putting in effort to make other people suspect Rels, I'm trying to figure out Rels' alignment. I posted a large case on Palmar with quality content to persuade people to lynch Palmar instead of Rels. PLEASE stop with this nonsense.In other words, it's not about putting effort in being wrong, it's putting effort in sterile things. He doesn't think Rels is Mafia? Why is he putting effort in reinforcing the suspicions? I'm sorry if you're town, Trfel, I just really can't see it. I understand what you're saying here, but I don't believe it. If I am wrong, at least I'll understand it's a meta thing. Please don't be frustrated You know what, Trfel. You're right. You're trying. Palmar isn't. I'll lynch Palmar instead. ##Unvote ##Vote: Palmar Remember this for when I die. Sure ![]() I'll be voting him with you ![]() | ||
GlowingBear
Brazil12446 Posts
April 02 2020 17:30 GMT
#1229
On April 03 2020 02:29 LightningStrike wrote: Who do I vote and why should I vote that person? >.< That's up to you. I've made my mind. | ||
LightningStrike
United States14276 Posts
April 02 2020 17:30 GMT
#1230
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Rels
France13467 Posts
April 02 2020 17:31 GMT
#1231
On April 03 2020 02:14 Trfel wrote: Show nested quote + Sure, if you just literally ignore all of the posts I've been making? Why is a stupidly easy meta check the only "serious work," ignoring all of my cases and analyses?On April 03 2020 01:26 LightningStrike wrote: Tbh I'll put my vote on Trfel I think he'll flip scum more often than Rels and Palmar atm especially given Rels doing serious work right no'w. this I agree, it wasn't a good point to me being town | ||
Trfel
7015 Posts
April 02 2020 17:33 GMT
#1232
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LightningStrike
United States14276 Posts
April 02 2020 17:34 GMT
#1233
On April 03 2020 02:31 Rels wrote: Show nested quote + On April 03 2020 02:14 Trfel wrote: On April 03 2020 01:26 LightningStrike wrote: Sure, if you just literally ignore all of the posts I've been making? Why is a stupidly easy meta check the only "serious work," ignoring all of my cases and analyses?Tbh I'll put my vote on Trfel I think he'll flip scum more often than Rels and Palmar atm especially given Rels doing serious work right no'w. this I agree, it wasn't a good point to me being town Might not be a good point to you being town but I don't think you did that when we were scum together? | ||
LightningStrike
United States14276 Posts
April 02 2020 17:35 GMT
#1234
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GlowingBear
Brazil12446 Posts
April 02 2020 17:35 GMT
#1235
On April 03 2020 02:30 LightningStrike wrote: Palmar never really read the game as either alignment GB. Exactly. He could be mafia here too. | ||
Rels
France13467 Posts
April 02 2020 17:40 GMT
#1236
On April 03 2020 02:33 Trfel wrote: @Rels, what about Palmar's list post to you qualified as "playing the game" and "towny?" are these quotes from me? I don't think these few posts day 2 really showed the was playing the game, it's more that every post he made before these made sense with the mentality he claimed to have in this string of posts. Taking it cool, the game is going the way I want, the lynch is the lynch I want, no need to overcomplicate thing | ||
Palmar
Iceland22632 Posts
April 02 2020 17:42 GMT
#1237
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Rels
France13467 Posts
April 02 2020 17:44 GMT
#1238
On April 03 2020 02:42 Palmar wrote: Rels is now my strongest townread convenient, just when I could kill you right now by switching to you | ||
Rels
France13467 Posts
April 02 2020 17:44 GMT
#1239
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Trfel
7015 Posts
April 02 2020 17:45 GMT
#1240
On April 03 2020 02:40 Rels wrote: Yes, those are quotes from you. You said you wanted to force Palmar to play the game, so I assume that when you removed your vote, that you felt that criteria had been met.Show nested quote + On April 03 2020 02:33 Trfel wrote: @Rels, what about Palmar's list post to you qualified as "playing the game" and "towny?" are these quotes from me? I don't think these few posts day 2 really showed the was playing the game, it's more that every post he made before these made sense with the mentality he claimed to have in this string of posts. Taking it cool, the game is going the way I want, the lynch is the lynch I want, no need to overcomplicate thing What about the times where Palmar was voting for his lesser scumread, or Day 1 where the lynch wasn't the lynch he wanted and he didn't really care? How does that fit in with this perception? | ||
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