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Doesn't matter if you brought it or not.
The post in which you promised it you acknowledged sentinel was a real good shot.
Objectively, even if everything Trfel has done this game is dumb, he was at least doing SOMETHING. There is absolutely no reason to talk about generating a case against him.
I was already on the fence with calling you town. My reason in my list post was "probably dumb enough". You are, of the remaining players, the least likely to flip town.
I've thought GB is town since day 1 and see no reason to change that.
I've thought Chez was town for a while, and him making that case on you solidifies my position.
I've thought LS was town since very early day 1.
There's always some reassessment of reads going on. My definitely maybe answer to shockeyy asking if I think he's mafia or town was basically an acknowledgement that I had mostly changed my mind on him, I just didn't wanna give up all my reads at that point. Turns out it didn't matter because the only reason mafia would've shot Shockeyy is if they knew he was the rolecop.
I am somewhat conflicted, I think there's a real chance I may have been right in the early game on Trfel and Rels, but since then Trfel's play looks slightly better. Even if all he's doing is yelling and screaming how he wants to lynch me.
Chez's case is correct.
If there's deep mafia it's probably Chez, but who knows. I honestly am pretty confident in my town reads this game.
So yeah, I think Rels has the highest chance of flipping mafia atm.
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On April 02 2020 23:45 Rels wrote:
##Vote Palmar
If you don't explain yourself, this vote is not moving
This is also a weak-ass vote.
If I'm mafia my explanation is going to be bullshit, and if you don't think I'm mafia why are you voting me?
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I am currently re-reading early trfel and rels
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Actually fuck it, I'm changing my mind.
Trfel has a 4 page filter
Rels has a 9 page filter
I'm voting Trfel
This is a good case.
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On April 03 2020 00:47 Palmar wrote:Show nested quote +On April 02 2020 23:45 Rels wrote:
##Vote Palmar
If you don't explain yourself, this vote is not moving This is also a weak-ass vote. If I'm mafia my explanation is going to be bullshit, and if you don't think I'm mafia why are you voting me?
in general maybe, but in this case it's absolutely good. I should have done it sooner, if I had done that the minute you voted me, we would have had the whole day to arguee
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On April 03 2020 00:46 Palmar wrote:
Chez's case is correct.
can you explain in your own words this case please?
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On April 03 2020 00:52 Palmar wrote:
Actually fuck it, I'm changing my mind.
Trfel has a 4 page filter
Rels has a 9 page filter
I'm voting Trfel
This is a good case.
HAHAHAHAHAHAHA
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Also, Rels's day 1 entrance was much less forced than Trfel's. There's a certain stiffness in Trfel's tone that just sounds off.
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On April 03 2020 00:54 Palmar wrote:
Also, Rels's day 1 entrance was much less forced than Trfel's. There's a certain stiffness in Trfel's tone that just sounds off.
Palmar, just read the quotes I've brought from Trfel and there's nothing more compelling than that
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On April 03 2020 00:52 Palmar wrote:
Actually fuck it, I'm changing my mind.
Trfel has a 4 page filter
Rels has a 9 page filter
I'm voting Trfel
This is a good case.
?????
I feel like you were only preparing your vote for tomorrow after Trfel flips town, but now that I'm a real lynch candidate you're backing off
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I've never noticed but Trfel seems to type out the full name of every player at all times. He'll always talk about Holyflare, GlowingBear and [UoN]Sentinel instead of just using HF, GB, Sent etc.
That's a really strange habit.
I do not trust robots.
Another good point in my case.
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On April 03 2020 00:55 Rels wrote:Show nested quote +On April 03 2020 00:52 Palmar wrote:
Actually fuck it, I'm changing my mind.
Trfel has a 4 page filter
Rels has a 9 page filter
I'm voting Trfel
This is a good case.
????? I feel like you were only preparing your vote for tomorrow after Trfel flips town, but now that I'm a real lynch candidate you're backing off
yeah, the ways of me are mysterious.
I haven't actually read much of the game so I discover shit when I actually do.
I'd like this to end today, so let's kill Trfel
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On April 03 2020 00:56 Palmar wrote:
I've never noticed but Trfel seems to type out the full name of every player at all times. He'll always talk about Holyflare, GlowingBear and [UoN]Sentinel instead of just using HF, GB, Sent etc.
That's a really strange habit.
I do not trust robots.
Another good point in my case.
lol I like this because it's easy to prove/disprove if he did it before as town
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On April 03 2020 00:57 Rels wrote:Show nested quote +On April 03 2020 00:56 Palmar wrote:
I've never noticed but Trfel seems to type out the full name of every player at all times. He'll always talk about Holyflare, GlowingBear and [UoN]Sentinel instead of just using HF, GB, Sent etc.
That's a really strange habit.
I do not trust robots.
Another good point in my case. lol I like this because it's easy to prove/disprove if he did it before as town
he does it in his previous game, this point is shit
https://tl.net/forum/mafia/549333-minifeast-15?user=Trfel&view=all
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Day 3 of quarantine
Votes
Rels: (2) Palmar, Chezinu, GlowingBear
Palmar: (2) Trfel, Rels
Trfel: (1) Rels, GlowingBear, Palmar
Rels is set to die with 2 votes
The deadline for the day is Thursday, Apr 02 6:00pm GMT (GMT+00:00) which is in
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On March 26 2020 06:25 Trfel wrote:
Hi all, thanks for being willing to help me out of my boredom and nothingness and play some mafia!
I'm pretty happy with Vivax as town, no?
This post is one of the reasons why Trfel was in my initial 4 "kill these and win" list. If he townreads Vivax, just say it, why format the read in a form of question? Is he apologetic about having a read?
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down to the dash in Eywa-
On July 03 2019 06:56 Trfel wrote:Sorry I'm not going to be very active until later tonight. It's a busy day for me, and I just learned that the company I've really been looking forward to working with is only giving me a temporary contract position instead of full employment, which is very disappointing after I've been unemployed for 15 months now  so I'm pretty sad and out of it. Been filter diving from the top. I like raynpelikoneet, his play seems to match his play last game very well. It feels like he's trying to solve the game, and he's still not focusing in and incessantly pushing single things. The thing that makes me townread him is that (assuming Eversince is town, which admittedly there is a chance I am wrong, but that is my current read) on Holyflare's comment he instantly switched his vote back to Eversince and has resolutely kept it there. If raynpelikoneet is mafia he knows that this is wrong, and in accordance with his "new," non-tunneling style of play I think he would be a bit more hesitant/reserved with that. Which makes me think he is town. If I explained that adequately. Unsure about Jockmcplop currently. + Show Spoiler [Analysis] +On July 02 2019 16:30 Jockmcplop wrote:Show nested quote +On July 02 2019 16:28 Eversince wrote:
I need to figure who to vote for. I'd be fine with Conv for reasons I already said. Grack would be ok but rather not, if he's town he'll start playing. Or we just lynch into lurkers. Which is also trash. Lynching lurkers isn't always trash. I personally don't see the rush to figure out a vote right now. I guess we all play differently but I'd rather wait until near the deadline to gather as much as possible first. On July 02 2019 16:38 Jockmcplop wrote:Show nested quote +On July 02 2019 16:33 Eversince wrote:On July 02 2019 16:30 Jockmcplop wrote:On July 02 2019 16:28 Eversince wrote:
I need to figure who to vote for. I'd be fine with Conv for reasons I already said. Grack would be ok but rather not, if he's town he'll start playing. Or we just lynch into lurkers. Which is also trash. Lynching lurkers isn't always trash. I personally don't see the rush to figure out a vote right now. I guess we all play differently but I'd rather wait until near the deadline to gather as much as possible first. Usually I do too. Which might happen again but I'll need to go back to sleep sometime tonight. I don't want to wake up tomorrow with 10-15 extra pages to try to read with 15 minutes, decide and make a vote. I'd rather talk while people are about. Fair enough. What do you think of Pandain? Immediately reversing his only read is a little suspicious and 'I changed my perspective' is a very opaque answer as to what happened. It kinda it makes it impossible to progress a conversation about what exactly pandain is thinking. Not being open about your thought process is mafia motivated at this point, especially when something like his trfel read debacle sticks out so obviously in the thread. His vote on you also seems like he's forcing something, trying to be first to vote for some reason. I can see mafia motivation everywhere with this guy already. ##vote pandain On July 02 2019 16:46 Jockmcplop wrote:
I know I said I didn't need to vote early, but this really jumped out at me. Pandain come back and be more town for me, I don't like having such a strong scumread so early lol. Pandain made no posts in between these posts. I know this has already been pointed out, but this scumread of Pandain feels somewhat fabricated. It feels like his suspicions of Pandain kinda came out of nowhere, it feels a bit forced to me. I could easily be wrong though; I'd like to see more from Jockmcplop, I think he's put himself in an interesting position with the null read on Eversince and the current vote count. @Jockmcplop, do you have an explanation for your thought process through the quoted posts? Holyflare, this sentence is for you, just because I know you like seeing your name on things. So far I'm suspicious of Eywa-. Eywa- feels a bit self-conscious, which seems highly opposite their town play last game. + Show Spoiler [Analysis] +On July 03 2019 02:43 Eywa- wrote:Show nested quote +On July 03 2019 02:41 raynpelikoneet wrote:On July 03 2019 02:40 Eywa- wrote:On July 03 2019 02:32 raynpelikoneet wrote:On July 03 2019 02:29 Eywa- wrote:
I'm really not sure what else I'm supposed to provide or how it'll be valuable. Why did you say "if eversince flips mafia then this game is just super easy going forward"? You must have a reason for it and afaik it's the reasoning you are voting for her (as you haven't said anythig else on why she is mafia). So what am i supposed to think if not that? Not my reason for voting... My reason for voting is that I think ES is mafia. cute, why is she mafia? The biggest reason is her role PM. Probably RNG. Very similar to posts that Eywa- made last game as town. On July 03 2019 05:01 Eywa- wrote:
The role pm part was a joke... Oops, somehow it's being quoted in every post now. But this didn't come up last game at all? Feels like Eywa- is self-conscious about not giving reasons in this game, which wasn't at all present last game, despite playing in a very similar way.
On July 03 2019 04:35 Eywa- wrote:Show nested quote +On July 03 2019 04:30 Eversince wrote:
Actual to elaborate a little more on my Ewya point.
She will fight tooth and nail and still say nothing with Rayn. But there is like 15 pg of content and I'm the easy vote, so just kill ES, dump everything else, and try to appear like your doing something. I don't think you're the only good lynch, but I think you're the most likely to get lynched of the narrow pool of acceptable lynches. The difference is negligible, so we can say you're the best lynch... or tied for the slot at least. On July 03 2019 05:07 Eywa- wrote:
Idk, feels like you've slipped a bunch and you're reluctant to just tell people they're wrong when reading you. You on multiple occasions tiptoed around that either indicating you don't like the way you're being read or that you felt a read on you was justified (despite it being a mafia read)
You also haven't provided much substance imo despite aggressively posting (I know, I'm the one talking...)
Overall, I'm failing to see any reason to not lynch you. Hopefully this falls into the category of sufficient justification, because I won't be going into any of the scum theater, that's discussion for another day.
Throw your vote down and stop saying how much you don't like my position, if you don't like it, put your vote where your mouth is. On July 03 2019 05:31 Eywa- wrote:Show nested quote +On July 03 2019 05:14 Eversince wrote:On July 03 2019 05:07 Eywa- wrote:
Idk, feels like you've slipped a bunch and you're reluctant to just tell people they're wrong when reading you. You on multiple occasions tiptoed around that either indicating you don't like the way you're being read or that you felt a read on you was justified (despite it being a mafia read)
You also haven't provided much substance imo despite aggressively posting (I know, I'm the one talking...)
Overall, I'm failing to see any reason to not lynch you. Hopefully this falls into the category of sufficient justification, because I won't be going into any of the scum theater, that's discussion for another day.
Throw your vote down and stop saying how much you don't like my position, if you don't like it, put your vote where your mouth is. Yes maby I am to nice to people. Starting a game how is that bad? To me it seems like your taking easy town lynch because I CAN'T play the same every game. So just kill her. Maby I think about this wrong. Maby I just need to be assholes to everyone. But that is not who I am so I can't do it!! Nah, your start to this game (basically your entire first page of game (not including pre-game) filter is: 1) trying to pocket Pandain 2) random town read on first player to post 3) trying to pocket Pandain 4) AtE There's some random comment about how you don't mind conversion (that was contradicted like 2-3 posts later - and then later escalated again). Overall, here's a summary... You're all over that AtE this game You're always coming back to Pandain mafia and claiming that his read on you is wrong... Well, if he's mafia... He's not wrong is he? He's just... Well, Mafia. You went through a phase of trying to name drop every player in the game, which lead to some reads escalating rather... Strangely. You seem to be displaying a complete lack of understanding for why anyone is being read in certain ways rather than seeing things from their (town) perspective. I'm voting ES now, I'll be voting ES at end of day as well. It feels like Eywa-'s scumread and vote on Eversince is just following the momentum of everyone else, the reasons and actual strength behind the read comes out later. Eywa- even admits that Eversince is just the most likely lynch out of a narrow pool. Side note, what is Eywa-'s lynch pool anyway? They only mentioned four townreads, which leaves four remaining players, I'd say that's quite a wide lynch pool, instead of the narrow pool Eywa- claims... But Eywa-'s scumread on Eversince increases in strength from "Eversince is one acceptable lynch out of a group of acceptable lynches" to "I'm lynching Eversince no matter what," and the only reasons cited are all from posts and events that happened before the first post in question. It feels extremely opportunistic to me and somewhat forced. @Eywa-, can you explain your thought process through the quoted posts? I'm interested in how your read on Eversince has changed over those posts, and what caused that change. I haven't gotten to Conversion and Grackaroni yet, and I need to reread Pandain; I will try to do so as soon as I can. Heading out for a bit.
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Palmar can you do me a favor? I really want you to explain in your own words what is Chez' case
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Are we really discussing that point?
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