|
On March 30 2020 11:48 GlowingBear wrote:Show nested quote +On March 30 2020 11:33 Trfel wrote:
Rels, care to respond to my post earlier this page to you?
GlowingBear, that's not why I am suspicious of Palmar. In short, Palmar doesn't care what happens, who gets lynched, or who is mafia, and I believe that makes him likely mafia. I'll see if I can explain it better later tonight when I am on a computer. I'm not sure he doesn't care, he is voting his scum read accordingly. If we lynch everyone who apparently isn't caring in this game, we would have to lynch half of the player list I think I get what you're saying, but the key difference is his scum read isn't getting lynched.
And looking at Palmar's filter again I noticed something more.
Look at his posts on ShoCkeyy being mafia:
+ Show Spoiler [ShoCkeyy is mafia] +On March 26 2020 22:58 Palmar wrote:
I have upgraded shockeyy to definitely mafia. On March 27 2020 22:07 Palmar wrote:
I think we should lynch shockeyy over sentinel KSC?
How do you feel about this? On March 27 2020 22:56 Palmar wrote:Show nested quote +On March 27 2020 22:39 KelsierSC wrote:On March 27 2020 22:07 Palmar wrote:
I think we should lynch shockeyy over sentinel KSC?
How do you feel about this? I liked what I read from shockeyy , so not for it. Why would you want to? He got mad when I called him mafia and felt it was random, yet until that point in the game he had done nothing except vote for Blazinhand? Feels oversensitive. His first two posts in the game were both excuses even when bunch of people weren't even in the thread. He was telling us how he was totally not just afk, just doing something else. He made some weird association between me and holyflare. He has done very, very minimal amount of work for town. On March 28 2020 02:16 Palmar wrote:
It's a bad idea to lynch HF at the moment.
He is never going to be a lurky shit scum. He's going to be loud and controversial through the game. If by day 2-3 he hasn't done anything useful or been right on anything we just kill him.
We need to take out the background trash on day 1, that is how you play day 1.
Shockeyy has done literally nothing except making some excuses and throwing some random shit around. Hell even the fact that he's a late voter is a tiny mafia tell.
Murder him. On March 29 2020 20:54 Palmar wrote:
I’ll kill shockeyy as well
versus his posts on [UoN]Sentinel being mafia.
+ Show Spoiler [Sentinel is mafia] +On March 29 2020 20:51 Palmar wrote:
Seems like a good day to kill sentinel
(note: excluding list posts and scum pools where both were listed equally)
I recommend looking at Palmar's filter yourself to see it in chronological order.
But basically, there's a big jump in focus from ShoCkeyy to [UoN]Sentinel with no reason. What changed to make him less suspicious of ShoCkeyy? Seemingly nothing. What changed to make him more suspicious of [UoN]Sentinel? All Palmar says is that his filter is terrible, and since he hasn't posted that hasn't really changed at all between Day 1 and Day 2.
Palmar seems like a better and better lynch the more I look at it.
|
On March 27 2020 22:40 LightningStrike wrote:Barely awake was to tired to post last night Show nested quote +On March 27 2020 11:01 Trfel wrote:
GlowingBear and everyone else, care to respond to the actual points I've raised instead of meaningless nonsense?
Getting kinda sick of this.
Yes, I'm confused because one of my main scumreads is voting for the other one. I'm not confident enough in my reads to vote, given the circumstance. If you have any actual help or comments on my reads to help sort this out, I would really appreciate it.
Otherwise, BUGGER OFF. Regarding your case on Palmar (had to check meta this morning): He had a lazyish Day 1 before as town as shown in Mafia For Busy People and Mafia Mafia Mafia (his filters if you want them: https://tl.net/forum/mafia/534114-mafia-for-busy-people?user=Palmar https://tl.net/forum/mafia/528650-mafia-mafia-mafia-mafia?user=Palmar ) Now regarding no direction: He had 4 scum reads with a stronger one on Shockeyy by that point when you posted your case. As for your play: Even if one of your scumreads voted one of your other scumreads why not vote for the one who you think is scummier? That is why I think you're mafia. With that being said Palmar does move up for me as closer to town now with that meta research I done this morning. @LightningStrike, if we're going to argue meta and all that...
In Mafia for Busy People, Palmar was lynched Day 1, on a weekend. It's well known Palmar doesn't play on weekends. While Palmar didn't do anything in the linked game, he didn't start this game on a weekend, so there is no excuse.
In Mafia Mafia Mafia, again this is quite a different case, as Palmar was apparently in Portugal and didn't realize the game started until there were about 8 hours left in Day 1. Obviously not relevant to this situation. But I'll humor you. Read Palmar's filter from that game, and he gets right to the point in trying to figure out who he wants to vote for. He acknowledges the current cases and chooses his vote. Of course he has no thread presence (since he didn't read any of the game) so he had to play with that, but I still see more investment from Palmar in that game than in the current game.
|
Feels like sentinel has done less than shockeyy and is less invested.
Still think shockeyy is mafia for his reactions and posts on day 1, just think Sentinel is even more likely to flip scum.
Trfel is officially dead to me now btw, so I'm going to pretend he doesn't exist.
|
Canada11355 Posts
Day 2 of quarantine
Votes
GlowingBear: (2) Holyflare, Chezinu
[UoN]Sentinel: (2) GlowingBear, Palmar
Palmar: (2) Rels, Trfel
Holyflare: (0) GlowingBear
Non-voters: you know
GlowingBear is set to die with 2 votes
The deadline for the day is Monday, Mar 30 6:00pm GMT (GMT+00:00) which is in
VOTE THREAD HERE (CLICK ME)
|
On March 30 2020 15:57 Trfel wrote:Show nested quote +On March 27 2020 22:40 LightningStrike wrote:Barely awake was to tired to post last night On March 27 2020 11:01 Trfel wrote:
GlowingBear and everyone else, care to respond to the actual points I've raised instead of meaningless nonsense?
Getting kinda sick of this.
Yes, I'm confused because one of my main scumreads is voting for the other one. I'm not confident enough in my reads to vote, given the circumstance. If you have any actual help or comments on my reads to help sort this out, I would really appreciate it.
Otherwise, BUGGER OFF. Regarding your case on Palmar (had to check meta this morning): He had a lazyish Day 1 before as town as shown in Mafia For Busy People and Mafia Mafia Mafia (his filters if you want them: https://tl.net/forum/mafia/534114-mafia-for-busy-people?user=Palmar https://tl.net/forum/mafia/528650-mafia-mafia-mafia-mafia?user=Palmar ) Now regarding no direction: He had 4 scum reads with a stronger one on Shockeyy by that point when you posted your case. As for your play: Even if one of your scumreads voted one of your other scumreads why not vote for the one who you think is scummier? That is why I think you're mafia. With that being said Palmar does move up for me as closer to town now with that meta research I done this morning. @LightningStrike, if we're going to argue meta and all that... In Mafia for Busy People, Palmar was lynched Day 1, on a weekend. It's well known Palmar doesn't play on weekends. While Palmar didn't do anything in the linked game, he didn't start this game on a weekend, so there is no excuse. In Mafia Mafia Mafia, again this is quite a different case, as Palmar was apparently in Portugal and didn't realize the game started until there were about 8 hours left in Day 1. Obviously not relevant to this situation. But I'll humor you. Read Palmar's filter from that game, and he gets right to the point in trying to figure out who he wants to vote for. He acknowledges the current cases and chooses his vote. Of course he has no thread presence (since he didn't read any of the game) so he had to play with that, but I still see more investment from Palmar in that game than in the current game.
I'll check this out but I'm not lynching Palmar today
|
Trfel, question: why would Mafia Palmar push Shockey but vote on Sentinel? What's his scum motivation?
|
On March 30 2020 18:29 Palmar wrote:
Feels like sentinel has done less than shockeyy and is less invested.
Still think shockeyy is mafia for his reactions and posts on day 1, just think Sentinel is even more likely to flip scum.
Trfel is officially dead to me now btw, so I'm going to pretend he doesn't exist.
You do realize that if that is the team, they really don't care for the game, since they both aren't voting.
|
|
|
On March 30 2020 22:27 GlowingBear wrote:Show nested quote +On March 30 2020 18:29 Palmar wrote:
Feels like sentinel has done less than shockeyy and is less invested.
Still think shockeyy is mafia for his reactions and posts on day 1, just think Sentinel is even more likely to flip scum.
Trfel is officially dead to me now btw, so I'm going to pretend he doesn't exist. You do realize that if that is the team, they really don't care for the game, since they both aren't voting.
It's mafia-like to not want to take stances early in the day.
Mafia tends not to lead wagons, they're more followers.
The very fact that neither of them are voting makes me want to kill them more. It's difficult to come up with reasons to vote for townies.
It's very easy for townies to come up with reasons to lynch mafia. Or other townies, for that matter.
Cause townies are dumb as hell.
Mafia is trying to be dumb.
|
On March 26 2020 22:56 Palmar wrote:Show nested quote +On March 26 2020 21:49 Vivax wrote:
Let's keep it simple? Sent's first post was a joke about the opening post, possibly a result of him staring at it not knowing what to write. Then he became uncooperative and generally didn't look like he was having fun, but rather resorting to mimicking a zero-fucks attitude to provoke too-scummy-to-be-scum theories.
I like the wagon. We don't have to bite our teeth out to convince Kelsier.
##Vote: Sent This is a fine vote as well. Honestly I'd kill any of the 4 I mentioned.
Man, Vivax and I are some smart people
|
On March 30 2020 22:27 GlowingBear wrote:Show nested quote +On March 30 2020 18:29 Palmar wrote:
Feels like sentinel has done less than shockeyy and is less invested.
Still think shockeyy is mafia for his reactions and posts on day 1, just think Sentinel is even more likely to flip scum.
Trfel is officially dead to me now btw, so I'm going to pretend he doesn't exist. You do realize that if that is the team, they really don't care for the game, since they both aren't voting.
This is actually the "BUT WHY WOULD MAFIA PLAY LIKE MAFIA?" logic that I was complaining about earlier.
Can we start off assuming mafia is just as bad as town, and that they're just playing like mafia plays.
If that doesn't work and we end up in lylo, maybe re-evaluate.
For now, just fucking murder the people who play like mafia.
|
On March 30 2020 22:51 Palmar wrote:Show nested quote +On March 30 2020 22:27 GlowingBear wrote:On March 30 2020 18:29 Palmar wrote:
Feels like sentinel has done less than shockeyy and is less invested.
Still think shockeyy is mafia for his reactions and posts on day 1, just think Sentinel is even more likely to flip scum.
Trfel is officially dead to me now btw, so I'm going to pretend he doesn't exist. You do realize that if that is the team, they really don't care for the game, since they both aren't voting. This is actually the "BUT WHY WOULD MAFIA PLAY LIKE MAFIA?" logic that I was complaining about earlier. Can we start off assuming mafia is just as bad as town, and that they're just playing like mafia plays. If that doesn't work and we end up in lylo, maybe re-evaluate. For now, just fucking murder the people who play like mafia.
Am I doing something else? Because as far as I know, my vote has been on Sentinel since start of the day. There's no harm in thinking further.
And if you think both of them are Mafia, they are deciding the lynch today. Just so you know. And the probability they will kill you is big. Sentinel don't need to vote, shockey will hammer.
|
On March 30 2020 11:33 Trfel wrote:
Rels, care to respond to my post earlier this page to you?
GlowingBear, that's not why I am suspicious of Palmar. In short, Palmar doesn't care what happens, who gets lynched, or who is mafia, and I believe that makes him likely mafia. I'll see if I can explain it better later tonight when I am on a computer.
yeah I saw that you linked the filter I've asked, I thought I would have time in the evening to check it but I didn't
|
On March 30 2020 15:57 Trfel wrote:Show nested quote +On March 27 2020 22:40 LightningStrike wrote:Barely awake was to tired to post last night On March 27 2020 11:01 Trfel wrote:
GlowingBear and everyone else, care to respond to the actual points I've raised instead of meaningless nonsense?
Getting kinda sick of this.
Yes, I'm confused because one of my main scumreads is voting for the other one. I'm not confident enough in my reads to vote, given the circumstance. If you have any actual help or comments on my reads to help sort this out, I would really appreciate it.
Otherwise, BUGGER OFF. Regarding your case on Palmar (had to check meta this morning): He had a lazyish Day 1 before as town as shown in Mafia For Busy People and Mafia Mafia Mafia (his filters if you want them: https://tl.net/forum/mafia/534114-mafia-for-busy-people?user=Palmar https://tl.net/forum/mafia/528650-mafia-mafia-mafia-mafia?user=Palmar ) Now regarding no direction: He had 4 scum reads with a stronger one on Shockeyy by that point when you posted your case. As for your play: Even if one of your scumreads voted one of your other scumreads why not vote for the one who you think is scummier? That is why I think you're mafia. With that being said Palmar does move up for me as closer to town now with that meta research I done this morning. @LightningStrike, if we're going to argue meta and all that... In Mafia for Busy People, Palmar was lynched Day 1, on a weekend. It's well known Palmar doesn't play on weekends. While Palmar didn't do anything in the linked game, he didn't start this game on a weekend, so there is no excuse. In Mafia Mafia Mafia, again this is quite a different case, as Palmar was apparently in Portugal and didn't realize the game started until there were about 8 hours left in Day 1. Obviously not relevant to this situation. But I'll humor you. Read Palmar's filter from that game, and he gets right to the point in trying to figure out who he wants to vote for. He acknowledges the current cases and chooses his vote. Of course he has no thread presence (since he didn't read any of the game) so he had to play with that, but I still see more investment from Palmar in that game than in the current game.
I do know that Palmar doesn't like playing on the weekend hell if he plays a lot during the weekend it actually makes him scum lol >.< Well your argument he didn't do much in this game which was why I picked that game despite it being on the weekend for that purpose. Regarding the 2nd game: Yes I knoww he stated that he didn't know know the game started and had to sheep (again your argument he didn't do much this game which was also despite him doing a late start was why I picked this game as well). Palmar is actually investing in this game now a bit granted it wasn't spectacular stuff he had during the weekend and Day 1 but he started to pick up pieces now.
|
I took so long on my post that ther was a bunch of posts that game in just great -_-
|
well if Sent doesn't want to play
##Unvote
##Vote [UoN]Sentinel
|
Well I don't think Palmar si the lynch today maybe we should kill Sentinel? The NK pointed to him unless it was RNG'd.
|
On March 30 2020 06:11 Trfel wrote:Show nested quote +On March 30 2020 01:12 Rels wrote:On March 28 2020 02:53 Trfel wrote:On March 28 2020 02:50 Rels wrote:
Trfel I'm very sorry if you're town. Because I'm going to say another thing that I find scummy about you, and I don't want you to feel bad if you're town. I know I could be bias confirming ...
The way you're talking about your scumreads is so sure, when I thought you were a very doubtful person. So that's something that makes me think you're scum too. Yeah, I used to be more like that, over the past few years things have changed. That's actually why rsoultin voted to kill me the past few games and I flipped town in both of them. Furthermore, desperate times call for desperate measures. I've been scumread SO MUCH for uncertainty and waffling that I'm trying to adjust my play to include more certainty and stronger pushes. Like to those plays? I don't see it in your last game. Even in your big case that game, you're still using a language that match what I would expect from you: On July 05 2019 17:08 Trfel wrote:raynpelikoneet - Easy townreads early on that don't make sense (Grackaroni, Conversion)
+ Show Spoiler [Analysis] +Yeah yeah, I know, I'm one to talk, with my Eversince read and all. If that's really an issue for you let me know and I can explain it, I like to think we're all past that now though. On Grackaroni: On July 02 2019 09:47 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Grack might be town. Raynpelikoneet's initial town lean on Grackaroni. And here is his explanation: On July 03 2019 23:02 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I had a townread on grack early on because i decided (after his last scumgame) to read him like i read yamato. Grackaroni is quite a low quantity poster. His post early on where he asks kind of a throwaway question on Trfel made me think there is some sort of thought process in his head. I gave him a slight townread for that. And here is the post in question: On July 02 2019 05:03 Grackaroni wrote:
Eversince looks different but it's also 4 years old.
I don't really trust her yet, but it seemed like Rayn had a really confident read on her in the last game, so I'd be interested to hear his take. To me this doesn't show thought process at all, raynpelikoneet's explanation really doesn't make sense here. Grackaroni stated two extremely obvious points, and it took minimal effort, and could easily be done by mafia. He didn't even draw any conclusions from this. Later, raynpelikoneet posts a further townread of Grackaroni: On July 03 2019 01:36 raynpelikoneet wrote:
well i think grack officially goes to town pool now. Raynpelikoneet's reasons for this: On July 03 2019 23:02 raynpelikoneet wrote:
When he came back and followed up his stuff he actually DID follow it up and it even made sense. Grackaroni's posts in question: On July 03 2019 00:04 Grackaroni wrote:I think that post is very strange when compared to how he viewed me last game. I don't see how he can be so bothered by someone being willing to lynch me. Show nested quote +On June 24 2019 04:55 Trfel wrote:
@Shapelog, what are you cooking?
Currently I think Grackaroni is the best shot at being mafia. He didn't interact at all with anyone and just vanished from the thread, and it doesn't really make sense for him to be scared of an innocent child... unless he's mafia. I know it's not very strong but it's the best I see, anyone have any similar or different ideas? On July 03 2019 00:08 Grackaroni wrote:Show nested quote +On July 03 2019 00:07 raynpelikoneet wrote:On July 03 2019 00:04 Grackaroni wrote:I think that post is very strange when compared to how he viewed me last game. I don't see how he can be so bothered by someone being willing to lynch me. On June 24 2019 04:55 Trfel wrote:
@Shapelog, what are you cooking?
Currently I think Grackaroni is the best shot at being mafia. He didn't interact at all with anyone and just vanished from the thread, and it doesn't really make sense for him to be scared of an innocent child... unless he's mafia. I know it's not very strong but it's the best I see, anyone have any similar or different ideas? can you expand on this? He found me suspicious in the last game for not interacting with thread and disappearing. In this game he is calling other people opportunistic for considering voting me. However, raynpelikoneet himself even posted reasons to doubt this reasoning: On July 03 2019 00:09 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On July 03 2019 00:08 Grackaroni wrote:On July 03 2019 00:07 raynpelikoneet wrote:On July 03 2019 00:04 Grackaroni wrote:I think that post is very strange when compared to how he viewed me last game. I don't see how he can be so bothered by someone being willing to lynch me. On June 24 2019 04:55 Trfel wrote:
@Shapelog, what are you cooking?
Currently I think Grackaroni is the best shot at being mafia. He didn't interact at all with anyone and just vanished from the thread, and it doesn't really make sense for him to be scared of an innocent child... unless he's mafia. I know it's not very strong but it's the best I see, anyone have any similar or different ideas? can you expand on this? He found me suspicious in the last game for not interacting with thread and disappearing. In this game he is calling other people opportunistic for considering voting me. but last game you did that as town in his mind right? In addition to the fact that it's easily explained. Grackaroni didn't even draw any conclusios from this, he just called it "very strange." To be honest, I don't see a ton of thought process or follow-up from Grackaroni in these posts, which is how raynpelikoneet characterized them. And I don't think most other players did either. So where did raynpelikoneet's townread come from? It feels like too much information, in this case, truly knowing that Grackaroni is town and letting that affect his read.
On Conversion: Raynpelikoneet's first post implying a townread of Conversion: On July 02 2019 09:55 raynpelikoneet wrote:Hi conversion, seems like we share a lot of things and feelings. Are you me?  Conversion's posts relevant to this: On July 02 2019 07:38 Conversion wrote:Show nested quote +On July 02 2019 03:22 Trfel wrote:On July 02 2019 03:16 Eversince wrote:On July 02 2019 03:11 Trfel wrote:On July 02 2019 03:07 Trfel wrote:On July 02 2019 02:38 Pandain wrote:
I'm mafia
AMA Weren't you one of the people who got mad at me and scumread me for doing the same thing a few games ago? Never mind I'm confusing you with someone else. Carry on I think Eversince is town, discuss? Why do you think I'm town? Your posts feel so carefree and relaxed and comfortable, which is the complete opposite of your last game as mafia, which felt very rigid and forced. Plus, instead of relying on losing the wifi hotspot and the pre-game excuse, you seem to have redoubled your efforts to engage in the game and be involved. To me that makes a decent townread I don’t like this post. ick On July 02 2019 07:50 Conversion wrote:Show nested quote +On July 02 2019 07:43 Trfel wrote:On July 02 2019 07:38 Conversion wrote:On July 02 2019 03:22 Trfel wrote:On July 02 2019 03:16 Eversince wrote:On July 02 2019 03:11 Trfel wrote:On July 02 2019 03:07 Trfel wrote:On July 02 2019 02:38 Pandain wrote:
I'm mafia
AMA Weren't you one of the people who got mad at me and scumread me for doing the same thing a few games ago? Never mind I'm confusing you with someone else. Carry on I think Eversince is town, discuss? Why do you think I'm town? Your posts feel so carefree and relaxed and comfortable, which is the complete opposite of your last game as mafia, which felt very rigid and forced. Plus, instead of relying on losing the wifi hotspot and the pre-game excuse, you seem to have redoubled your efforts to engage in the game and be involved. To me that makes a decent townread I don’t like this post. ick Care to say why? too feel good-y for my condensed ball of rage and hatred also 4 year old meta seems like a reach to have a swing towards a read in any direction that early instead of something to pocket and observe for late This is at least somewhat understandable, though really Conversion only shared one thought. Later, raynpelikoneet posts this: On July 02 2019 23:35 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Yeah conversion easily town this game. You can look here for the specific posts, it's a little long; but for a brief summary, Conversion's posts in question are pushing onto Eversince. Seems to be a townread simply for also scumreading Eversince. You can look at this exchange yourself, it starts on page 11, I just really feel (again) like this is a weak townread that doesn't have justification to back it up.
- Raynpelikoneet didn't care about the Day 1 lynch, between his townread and his scumread
+ Show Spoiler [Analysis] +Honestly I think this is probably the strongest point I have. From raynpelikoneet's perspective, the lynch in the last eight minutes was his townread (Conversion) against his strong scumread (Eversince). Posts in the thread in the last eight minutes of Day 1, making it clear that shenanigans were incoming: On July 04 2019 04:24 Pandain wrote:
I'm strongly for a Conv lynch (if Grack won't get lynched) just because I have town reads on everyone except Grack and him.
Jock is way too active. Rayn is way too active. HF could be scum but seems townie.
Trfel is playing like his town games. Eywa was really townie with his exhcnage with me.
Who else wants to lynch Conv (or grack) On July 04 2019 04:26 Jockmcplop wrote:
Pandain switch to conversion with me On July 04 2019 04:26 Pandain wrote:I switched. Who else wants to join? On July 04 2019 04:27 Pandain wrote:
If ES and Trfel switch ES is saved
Grack vote conv So raynpelikoneet was present, and if he was at all reading, knew that shenanigans were coming and that Conversion being lynched was at least a possiblity. During these last eight minutes, here are raynpelikoneet's posts: On July 04 2019 04:23 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I get that i am probably overreacting, i just hate when someone is for example called out for lying and they say "but i just did it because the sky is red" and people go woaaah must be town, nothing wrong with that, look they gave an EXPLANATION, when i n fact the whole explanation doesn't make any fucking sense at all. On July 04 2019 04:27 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On July 04 2019 04:23 Holyflare wrote:On July 04 2019 04:21 raynpelikoneet wrote:On July 04 2019 04:19 Pandain wrote:On July 04 2019 03:22 raynpelikoneet wrote:On July 03 2019 23:32 Holyflare wrote:On July 03 2019 23:19 Trfel wrote:On July 03 2019 01:09 Eversince wrote:
And I've played with HF a few times over the years. He's stupid good mafia player. If he's town he'll figure things out! Go look at his massive list of games to look. Like he can be wrong but mafia almost always shoot into the vets on this site (HF/Rayn/Marv etc..etc.) @Raynpelikoneet, is the bolded the thing you are using to scumread Eversince? Because to me, Eversince is saying here that Holyflare is good at mafia as a game, not as an alignment. She also clarified that she meant I'm good at mafia rather than the mafia alignment. I know she did but do you believe that's the truth? I don't. That was everyone's interpetation of the comment except you. You're the only one reading it otherwise. Also, it's clear that he meant the game and not the alignment because she specifically says "if he's town he'll figure it out" right after. It wouldn't be very sensical if she was referring to the mafia alignment and then said hes a good town player. that's not my point. my point is noone says "good at the game" unless the player in consideration is also good as mafia, because people who are only good as town are not good mafia players. Even I think this point is a stretch my dude. I've seen plenty of people say that. I could possibly believe her if she didnt try to prove her oiint with something that doesnt exist. Thats why i think she is making shit up on the fly. He's continuing to argue and explain himself. He's only minimally pushing Eversince here, he's not saying anything about Conversion, he's not getting upset, he seems very calm and relaxed. In fact, it doesn't feel like raynpelikoneet is invested or cares about the lynch at all. I know I made a similar point against Holyflare in my case on him, but that was a bad case. There the point was bad, because in that game Holyflare made several posts to Eversince, calling her mafia, in the same time window. The argument against Holyflare was that the posts were addressed to Eversince instead of the thread, which is weak. And even still Holyflare made a post to the threaad in response to the shenanigans: On July 04 2019 04:29 Holyflare wrote:Show nested quote +On July 04 2019 04:28 Pandain wrote:
HF no idea why you're talking when you're never gonna change your mind in a million years Because I know you tools will do some stupid shit and she won't get lynched. Yet raynpelikoneet did none of this. He did not care about the lynch.
- raynpelikoneet is mad at Pandain for shooting Grackaroni, a player who he highly scumread
+ Show Spoiler [Analysis] +Through Night 1, raynpelikoneet believed that Eversince and Grackaroni were the two mafia. I will provide several quotes about this, for emphasis: On July 04 2019 22:50 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On July 04 2019 22:42 Holyflare wrote:
Rayn what exactly are your reads actually? ES + Grackaroni mafia pretty much. On July 05 2019 04:04 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Aside from ES you should kill Grack. He made the post on me being mafia, i can understand you not agreeing with me here or even thinking it's a good post. Just read it again. It doesn't make sense i am sorry i can't explain it further. Then there is the post on Conversion i challenged at eod, the reasons he says conv is mafia for happened when he read conv town, middle point of the post is fluff that doesnt make anyone anything and the the rest is "rayn and conversion are mfia because other people i have better feelings on". Me + Conversion were his top town reads!!!!!! Who did what? He never goes into anything like who actually did something and what makes them town. He just throws out a narrative and sticks shit with it, conversion up to lynch and me to throw distrust on.
Sorry if not clear, but that's what i think. On July 05 2019 04:08 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Kill ES, kill Grack, profit. On July 05 2019 04:26 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Lynch ES, lynch Grack. If either of them are town then idk, maybe Pandain?
I have a hard time seeing anyone else as mafia. Maybe maybe maybe Eywa but that reasoning i have at the back of my head is fucked up and you will have to figure out yourself. Eywa is not mafia though. And here is raynpelikoneet's reaction to End of Night 1, seeing Holyflare and Grackaroni flip town: On July 05 2019 04:33 raynpelikoneet wrote:
fuck you On July 05 2019 04:33 raynpelikoneet wrote:
vigi what`? On July 05 2019 04:37 raynpelikoneet wrote:Why no shot on ES?  Why in the hell? It doesn't make sense for raynpelikoneet to be mad here. He was highly suspecting Grackaroni, he was going to lynch Grackaroni after Eversince anyway. One of his scumreads still died, objectively it wasn't a bad shot. Raynpelikoneet has no reason to be mad about this, as he can still go and lynch Eversince (his other scumread) and then find out who the last mafia (assuming Eversince is mafia) is, the vigilante shot didn't really change much of anything. Except raynpelikoneet is mad about it anyway. This doesn't make sense from what his perspective should be.
Conclusion: I think there is a decent chance raynpelikoneet is mafia. I still want to filter everyone else before I decide, but I think these are some solid reasons to be suspicious of raynpelikoneet. I'm not sure what you are meaning by quoting the previous game here. Can you show more clearly what you are trying to point out? As for meta... Which games of mine are you reading? I don't believe the Mafia Database has been updated for quite some time. I recommend reading games more recent than three years ago or so... From End of the World Party Mafia, where I was the Town Doctor and got lynched Day 1, rsoultin's posts (ok it was gonna be posts but I deleted one of them and I'm too lazy to find it again, it's nested in there anyway): Show nested quote +On March 05 2019 05:04 rsoultin wrote:On March 05 2019 05:01 rsoultin wrote:On March 05 2019 04:55 Trfel wrote:On March 05 2019 04:51 rsoultin wrote:On March 05 2019 04:48 Trfel wrote:
Voting Palmar for mayor because of all of the mayors' targets I want to see [UoN]Sentinel lynched most. Him having a townread on himself while claiming to have not read his role PM is super suspicious, moreso the more I think about it. Other than his huge list post he hasn't shown much thought at all, he's been just following the thread sentiment. His overall play makes his effort seem fabricated. A few reasons being quoting my reasoning in one area while highly scumreading me in another, and more importantly not seeming at all invested in his reads. If he put all that effort into reading and making his scumreads, he wouldn't not actually push those reads and follow the thread sentiment like a headless chicken. It feels forced, and like he's trying to use the effort to prove he's town.
##Mayor Palmar :/ you feel off this game to me. there was a glimmer of truffledom and now it's gone again. you're not doing the truffle waffle It's not my choice of targets? I can choose between [UoN]Sentinel and Palmar, I'm confident I much prefer [UoN]Sentinel, no need to waffle. If I was the mayor myself I'd probably go with Fecalfeast or maybe sicklucker. You're townreading Fecalfeast off of tone, right? yeah it's mostly just him doing whatever the fuck and pointing out some things i agreed with at the time + damdy is usually pretty good at reading him and thinks he's town (though i think his read on him gets better later?) ftr the truffle waffle is not usually dependent on other wagons unless my memory has really gone to shit Where rsoultin scumread me for not waffling as I used to. In fact, while I'm there, here's a link to my filter from that game if you haven't already read it.
hey I was in that game! Last TL game of the world lol. With Wiggles' radio show! We scum played an awesome game.
|
I don't remember you playing though lol
|
I so remembered that game because I was very pissed off at Day 1 because I thought everyone was being brickwalls and thought Tina was mafia on that since we normally would work well together >.< I also had the funniest moment from that game:
On March 08 2019 02:33 LightningStrike wrote:
Just a funny thought but what there is a mafia traitor even though it not listed in the op?
Then we lynched the traitor XD
|
|
|
|
|
|
EPT
