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GlowingBear
Profile Joined May 2014
Brazil12446 Posts
March 28 2020 17:45 GMT
#721
On March 29 2020 02:39 LightningStrike wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 29 2020 02:36 GlowingBear wrote:
On March 29 2020 02:27 LightningStrike wrote:
On March 29 2020 02:13 GlowingBear wrote:
On March 29 2020 01:55 LightningStrike wrote:
Still noone commented on this?
On March 28 2020 09:44 LightningStrike wrote:
On March 28 2020 09:43 LightningStrike wrote:
On March 28 2020 03:02 Tubesock wrote:
Day 1 of quarantine
Final Votes


KelsierSC: (5) Holyflare, Palmar, [UoN]Sentinel, Rels, Trfel, GlowingBear, LightningStrike
Trfel: (3) LightningStrike, GlowingBear , Rels, Vivax, KelsierSC
GlowingBear: (1) Chezinu
ShoCkeyy: (1) Palmar
Palmar: (1) ShoCkeyy
Holyflare: (0) Rels, KelsierSC, GlowingBear, LightningStrike, GlowingBear
[UoN]Sentinel: (0) Holyflare, [UoN]Sentinel, Vivax, GlowingBear , KelsierSC
Rels: (0) GlowingBear

KelsierSC is set to die with 5 votes



The deadline for the day is Friday, Mar 27 6:00pm GMT (GMT+00:00) which is in

VOTE THREAD HERE (CLICK ME)

Assuming Trfel flips town and knowing my alignment mafia might of had laughed their asses and could bury themselves in either wagon unless you think a mafia is one of the solo voters then the partner would have to be on one of the wagons EoD.


Kinda depressed about that


It depends on each player's meta if mafia is inside or outside the main wagons. If it was me, I would take the erratic route and keep my vote on Holyflare and tunnel him, regardless if my partner is under attack or no, because it will be easy for me to survive (I'll never be top town, so if I don't die, they won't throw suspicions at me / I'll never be top scum because I didn't try to save my partner if he is one of the main wagons). In my opinion, vote analysis per se won't help us.

What could help us is to try to understand how mafia would act in a 9 v 2 game.
A perfect match for them would be:
7v2 / 5v2 / 3v2.
Three myslinches without dying. It's not easy if town is organized. They can't have suspicions thrown at them either, because they need to survive and they don't have a partner to "spare", to be totally erratic. So Mafia needs to keep disorganizing town and manipulate information in thread, without really compromising themselves. I expect at least one mafia to do that. They will use their perfect information to play a very logic game.
Unfortunately, many townies are fitting this perspective.
But two people in particular stands out for me, which is Holyflare and Vivax. Holyflare for the reasons I've already said here. It's way too obvious for me. He's been selective, manipulative, and I don't believe he is trying to actually solve the game. Vivax because he has been under the radar, playing a very safe game, and at the moment he could throw suspicions at me, he did. It fits mafia perspective very well. Also, I remember Vivax been very paranoid and erratic as town. He would think everything is scummy, jumping on every person. This Vivax calls me out for "shitting the thread" without actually commenting on what I've said about Holyflare while assuming Holyflare is town (he would never give Holyflare a pass). Just as last game.
Also, see that Holyflare never said a thing about Vivax. I've asked him what he thinks about Vivax, but he ignored. It's hard to talk about key people when you have perfect information.
A team of Vivax and Holyflare is very possible. But I don't want to talk about teams because it would be unflipped association. I am scumreading both for their play alone.

Good points about how mafia would act in a 9v2 vs a normal setup. Ya Vivax isn't as paranoid this game as he normally is as town and clearly didn't read the thread much at all when he called you out when fi he had looked at EoD he would clearly see why you swapped (and for that matter why I also swapped). HF is definitely looking worse that lynch on KSC based on the fact he made the case on KSC and pushed him.


Exactly. I was upset when he called me out, it's very frustrating playing a game where I believe Holyflare is mafia but people don't want to consider it just because he is a high profile player. I've lost countless games to this thinking. I even lost a game where I flipped cop and had a red check on him, and people didn't lynch him because they thought he was a miller. It's frustrating.

Anyway, took my time off the game and I'm not upset anymore. And analyzing Vivax reaction to me, it feels extremely fake. I'm confident he is mafia.

Sorry about that I was the one who threw that game that you speaking about regarding that cop check. As for why I didn't switch to HF: I didn't think we had the people do it at EoD to do it without lynching Trfel. Vivax might be mafia it will be more apparent if he is as the game progresses since he doesn't post much as scum later in the game.


Don't be sorry, I've just used it as an example of how this thing keeps repeating here. I've switched off of Holyflare because we didn't have enough people convinced to lynch him.

We have at least 1 townie wasting vote, so town just needs to step up and be organize. It's hard to do when town isn't playing
I'm adorable.
GlowingBear
Profile Joined May 2014
Brazil12446 Posts
March 28 2020 17:46 GMT
#722
On March 29 2020 02:42 Rels wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 29 2020 02:36 GlowingBear wrote:
Anyway, took my time off the game and I'm not upset anymore. And analyzing Vivax reaction to me, it feels extremely fake. I'm confident he is mafia.

I also hated his posts this night, the way he putted a lot of blame on you was pretty scummy


Exactly, it makes no sense at all since he isn't actively playing the game or scum hunting.
I'm adorable.
GlowingBear
Profile Joined May 2014
Brazil12446 Posts
March 28 2020 17:52 GMT
#723
Btw, I believe HF and Rels can't be Mafia together. Just saying.
I'm adorable.
LightningStrike
Profile Joined February 2011
United States14277 Posts
March 28 2020 17:55 GMT
#724
On March 29 2020 02:52 GlowingBear wrote:
Btw, I believe HF and Rels can't be Mafia together. Just saying.

Agreed honestly.
May the next light shine/Former #1 Alliance LoL fan/ Current Teamliquid LoL Fan
LightningStrike
Profile Joined February 2011
United States14277 Posts
March 28 2020 17:58 GMT
#725
On March 29 2020 02:45 GlowingBear wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 29 2020 02:39 LightningStrike wrote:
On March 29 2020 02:36 GlowingBear wrote:
On March 29 2020 02:27 LightningStrike wrote:
On March 29 2020 02:13 GlowingBear wrote:
On March 29 2020 01:55 LightningStrike wrote:
Still noone commented on this?
On March 28 2020 09:44 LightningStrike wrote:
On March 28 2020 09:43 LightningStrike wrote:
On March 28 2020 03:02 Tubesock wrote:
Day 1 of quarantine
Final Votes


KelsierSC: (5) Holyflare, Palmar, [UoN]Sentinel, Rels, Trfel, GlowingBear, LightningStrike
Trfel: (3) LightningStrike, GlowingBear , Rels, Vivax, KelsierSC
GlowingBear: (1) Chezinu
ShoCkeyy: (1) Palmar
Palmar: (1) ShoCkeyy
Holyflare: (0) Rels, KelsierSC, GlowingBear, LightningStrike, GlowingBear
[UoN]Sentinel: (0) Holyflare, [UoN]Sentinel, Vivax, GlowingBear , KelsierSC
Rels: (0) GlowingBear

KelsierSC is set to die with 5 votes



The deadline for the day is Friday, Mar 27 6:00pm GMT (GMT+00:00) which is in

VOTE THREAD HERE (CLICK ME)

Assuming Trfel flips town and knowing my alignment mafia might of had laughed their asses and could bury themselves in either wagon unless you think a mafia is one of the solo voters then the partner would have to be on one of the wagons EoD.


Kinda depressed about that


It depends on each player's meta if mafia is inside or outside the main wagons. If it was me, I would take the erratic route and keep my vote on Holyflare and tunnel him, regardless if my partner is under attack or no, because it will be easy for me to survive (I'll never be top town, so if I don't die, they won't throw suspicions at me / I'll never be top scum because I didn't try to save my partner if he is one of the main wagons). In my opinion, vote analysis per se won't help us.

What could help us is to try to understand how mafia would act in a 9 v 2 game.
A perfect match for them would be:
7v2 / 5v2 / 3v2.
Three myslinches without dying. It's not easy if town is organized. They can't have suspicions thrown at them either, because they need to survive and they don't have a partner to "spare", to be totally erratic. So Mafia needs to keep disorganizing town and manipulate information in thread, without really compromising themselves. I expect at least one mafia to do that. They will use their perfect information to play a very logic game.
Unfortunately, many townies are fitting this perspective.
But two people in particular stands out for me, which is Holyflare and Vivax. Holyflare for the reasons I've already said here. It's way too obvious for me. He's been selective, manipulative, and I don't believe he is trying to actually solve the game. Vivax because he has been under the radar, playing a very safe game, and at the moment he could throw suspicions at me, he did. It fits mafia perspective very well. Also, I remember Vivax been very paranoid and erratic as town. He would think everything is scummy, jumping on every person. This Vivax calls me out for "shitting the thread" without actually commenting on what I've said about Holyflare while assuming Holyflare is town (he would never give Holyflare a pass). Just as last game.
Also, see that Holyflare never said a thing about Vivax. I've asked him what he thinks about Vivax, but he ignored. It's hard to talk about key people when you have perfect information.
A team of Vivax and Holyflare is very possible. But I don't want to talk about teams because it would be unflipped association. I am scumreading both for their play alone.

Good points about how mafia would act in a 9v2 vs a normal setup. Ya Vivax isn't as paranoid this game as he normally is as town and clearly didn't read the thread much at all when he called you out when fi he had looked at EoD he would clearly see why you swapped (and for that matter why I also swapped). HF is definitely looking worse that lynch on KSC based on the fact he made the case on KSC and pushed him.


Exactly. I was upset when he called me out, it's very frustrating playing a game where I believe Holyflare is mafia but people don't want to consider it just because he is a high profile player. I've lost countless games to this thinking. I even lost a game where I flipped cop and had a red check on him, and people didn't lynch him because they thought he was a miller. It's frustrating.

Anyway, took my time off the game and I'm not upset anymore. And analyzing Vivax reaction to me, it feels extremely fake. I'm confident he is mafia.

Sorry about that I was the one who threw that game that you speaking about regarding that cop check. As for why I didn't switch to HF: I didn't think we had the people do it at EoD to do it without lynching Trfel. Vivax might be mafia it will be more apparent if he is as the game progresses since he doesn't post much as scum later in the game.


Don't be sorry, I've just used it as an example of how this thing keeps repeating here. I've switched off of Holyflare because we didn't have enough people convinced to lynch him.

We have at least 1 townie wasting vote, so town just needs to step up and be organize. It's hard to do when town isn't playing

True about at least 1 townie is wasting their vote and town needs to step up and be organized but tow isn't playing like you said. the votes I saw was 3-3-3 with trfel being lynched so I had to switch KSC myself otherwise I would of prefered a HF EoD lynch there honestly.
May the next light shine/Former #1 Alliance LoL fan/ Current Teamliquid LoL Fan
Tubesock
Profile Joined April 2011
United States2726 Posts
March 28 2020 18:00 GMT
#726
Day 2


[image loading][/b]



Vivax the VT has died.


Game has started, the deadline for the day is Monday, Mar 30 6:00pm GMT (GMT+00:00) which is in

VOTE THREAD HERE (CLICK ME)

GlowingBear
Profile Joined May 2014
Brazil12446 Posts
March 28 2020 18:00 GMT
#727
Uhm

WHAT
I'm adorable.
LightningStrike
Profile Joined February 2011
United States14277 Posts
March 28 2020 18:02 GMT
#728
wtf is that NK.......
May the next light shine/Former #1 Alliance LoL fan/ Current Teamliquid LoL Fan
LightningStrike
Profile Joined February 2011
United States14277 Posts
March 28 2020 18:03 GMT
#729
That was such a bad kill regardless who is mafia because he was very lynchable. Will check his filter.
May the next light shine/Former #1 Alliance LoL fan/ Current Teamliquid LoL Fan
LightningStrike
Profile Joined February 2011
United States14277 Posts
March 28 2020 18:06 GMT
#730
And I didn't get crap from his filter really except he thought Sent was scum along with Trfel and GB. Maybe he died because of his Sent read? I don't think Trfel and GB are mafia atm.
May the next light shine/Former #1 Alliance LoL fan/ Current Teamliquid LoL Fan
GlowingBear
Profile Joined May 2014
Brazil12446 Posts
March 28 2020 18:16 GMT
#731
On March 29 2020 03:06 LightningStrike wrote:
And I didn't get crap from his filter really except he thought Sent was scum along with Trfel and GB. Maybe he died because of his Sent read? I don't think Trfel and GB are mafia atm.


It could be anything

They could've thought he was the parity cop

He could be right on Sentinel

Or they could just think town is so wrong in their predictions that it would be better to keep the talking people alive

I wouldn't take this much in consideration
I'm adorable.
GlowingBear
Profile Joined May 2014
Brazil12446 Posts
March 28 2020 18:19 GMT
#732
OR

Mafia wants to incriminate me
I'm adorable.
LightningStrike
Profile Joined February 2011
United States14277 Posts
March 28 2020 18:29 GMT
#733
On March 29 2020 03:16 GlowingBear wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 29 2020 03:06 LightningStrike wrote:
And I didn't get crap from his filter really except he thought Sent was scum along with Trfel and GB. Maybe he died because of his Sent read? I don't think Trfel and GB are mafia atm.


It could be anything

They could've thought he was the parity cop

He could be right on Sentinel

Or they could just think town is so wrong in their predictions that it would be better to keep the talking people alive

I wouldn't take this much in consideration

Probably the bolded part honestly I guess.
May the next light shine/Former #1 Alliance LoL fan/ Current Teamliquid LoL Fan
GlowingBear
Profile Joined May 2014
Brazil12446 Posts
March 28 2020 18:44 GMT
#734
On March 29 2020 03:29 LightningStrike wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 29 2020 03:16 GlowingBear wrote:
On March 29 2020 03:06 LightningStrike wrote:
And I didn't get crap from his filter really except he thought Sent was scum along with Trfel and GB. Maybe he died because of his Sent read? I don't think Trfel and GB are mafia atm.


It could be anything

They could've thought he was the parity cop

He could be right on Sentinel

Or they could just think town is so wrong in their predictions that it would be better to keep the talking people alive

I wouldn't take this much in consideration

Probably the bolded part honestly I guess.


I actually think it could be any reason and, therefore, shouldn't be considered atm
I'm adorable.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
March 28 2020 18:57 GMT
#735
##vote GlowingBear

Very easily and clearly mafia.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
March 28 2020 18:58 GMT
#736
It's very bm not to kill me when I'm almost guaranteed to not be able to play so thanks for being a dick to a sick person gb.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
March 28 2020 18:59 GMT
#737
It's almost unbelievable the amount of crap that flows through Shockeyy and GB's posts.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
March 28 2020 19:06 GMT
#738
There is no world, no plane of existence where GB magically starts calling me mafia right at eod day 1 despite airing no grievances previously and is SO sure I'm mafia and actually hard defends Kelsier as being town that he votes Kelsier at eod WITH ME.

He's so paranoid of how bad he looks he auto defends himself with inane over explained reasons. He has also lied repeatedly to over exaggerate how he's so good at finding me when I'm mafia. That has never and will never be the case and there is quite a clear history of him being wrong and also him pushing me to stir shit when he's mafia.
GlowingBear
Profile Joined May 2014
Brazil12446 Posts
March 28 2020 19:24 GMT
#739
On March 29 2020 03:58 Holyflare wrote:
It's very bm not to kill me when I'm almost guaranteed to not be able to play so thanks for being a dick to a sick person gb.


HAHAHAHAHA you're so full of shit here HF
I'm adorable.
GlowingBear
Profile Joined May 2014
Brazil12446 Posts
March 28 2020 19:26 GMT
#740
On March 29 2020 04:06 Holyflare wrote:
There is no world, no plane of existence where GB magically starts calling me mafia right at eod day 1 despite airing no grievances previously and is SO sure I'm mafia and actually hard defends Kelsier as being town that he votes Kelsier at eod WITH ME.

He's so paranoid of how bad he looks he auto defends himself with inane over explained reasons. He has also lied repeatedly to over exaggerate how he's so good at finding me when I'm mafia. That has never and will never be the case and there is quite a clear history of him being wrong and also him pushing me to stir shit when he's mafia.


History of games says otherwise.

Explain to me why me, as Mafia, would do such move at EoD. Tell me my motivation.
I'm adorable.
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