[N]Emergency Quarantine Mafia - Page 36

On March 28 2020 12:42 ShoCkeyy wrote:
Of course, town died day 1. Makes the game so much harder for us, and easier for them.

On March 28 2020 12:47 LightningStrike wrote:

Do you think Trfel is town based on his play and EoD stuff?

On March 28 2020 13:21 ShoCkeyy wrote:


He mostly questioned me which I answered hopefully all the questions. He did seem interested in the way I was thinking and why I was thinking.

I don't however think it makes him town just yet. He was still in the same boat with one of the other people I think are mafia. It makes it rough to see his alignments just yet because he did make a play on Palmar who's my next guest as mafia. And if Trfel is mafia, he would try and play the Palmar card to try and get another target lynched. I'm still holding back on whether to call him town or mafia yet.

On March 28 2020 13:36 LightningStrike wrote:

Noted.

On March 28 2020 14:13 ShoCkeyy wrote:


What are your thoughts on Vivax recent posts? and HF recent post about how GB caused the death of KSC?

On March 28 2020 06:55 Vivax wrote:
Ok GB.
Sorry for calling you dumb or mafia for that play and saying you are shitting up the thread.

But you derailed a lynch onto a townie.
While voting with your scumread that you spent a ton of posts on in what looks like an ego-war you deliberately wanted to start.
Which makes perfect sense for mafia before the nr.1 way to get HF to start spamming the thread is to trigger him in some way. When he's mafia he does that on his own. The game is much less confusing when he can just do his thing in peace for a while.

And what I meant with Palmar+Shockey not playing referred to them wasting their votes.

On March 28 2020 07:09 Holyflare wrote:
GB posted that he's positive I'm mafia repeatedly for about 4 pages, he also defended Kelsier and called him town. Yet what explanation have we received other than he won't play anymore for why he killed his town read and voted with his certain mafia read?

On March 28 2020 06:55 Vivax wrote:
Ok GB.
Sorry for calling you dumb or mafia for that play and saying you are shitting up the thread.

But you derailed a lynch onto a townie.
While voting with your scumread that you spent a ton of posts on in what looks like an ego-war you deliberately wanted to start.
Which makes perfect sense for mafia before the nr.1 way to get HF to start spamming the thread is to trigger him in some way. When he's mafia he does that on his own. The game is much less confusing when he can just do his thing in peace for a while.

And what I meant with Palmar+Shockey not playing referred to them wasting their votes.

On March 28 2020 22:16 GlowingBear wrote:
I will explain myself but I won't defend myself. There are reasons why I wouldn't do this as Mafia but you'll have to figure it out by yourselves.

I thought Trfel's post near deadline was town, I believed him being upset about always being lynched Day1 was genuine, I saw effort that I didn't believe he would do as Mafia, and I have a vague memory of him not taking strong stances before.

My top scum read also didn't care for having Trfel lynched, so he basically doesn't care for the lynch. Which would probably make both wagons town.

I switched because I saw posts from Trfel that looked townie and the only other possible wagon was Kelsier's. It was impulsive and thinking about it now, it was bad.

On March 29 2020 01:30 Palmar wrote:
I haven't reevaluated anything really, but I stand by my reads.

I moved away from KSC because he didn't really sound like mafia, it was just a policy lynch.

On March 29 2020 01:55 LightningStrike wrote:
Still noone commented on this?

Kinda depressed about that

On March 29 2020 02:13 GlowingBear wrote:


It depends on each player's meta if mafia is inside or outside the main wagons. If it was me, I would take the erratic route and keep my vote on Holyflare and tunnel him, regardless if my partner is under attack or no, because it will be easy for me to survive (I'll never be top town, so if I don't die, they won't throw suspicions at me / I'll never be top scum because I didn't try to save my partner if he is one of the main wagons). In my opinion, vote analysis per se won't help us.

What could help us is to try to understand how mafia would act in a 9 v 2 game.
A perfect match for them would be:
7v2 / 5v2 / 3v2.
Three myslinches without dying. It's not easy if town is organized. They can't have suspicions thrown at them either, because they need to survive and they don't have a partner to "spare", to be totally erratic. So Mafia needs to keep disorganizing town and manipulate information in thread, without really compromising themselves. I expect at least one mafia to do that. They will use their perfect information to play a very logic game.
Unfortunately, many townies are fitting this perspective.
But two people in particular stands out for me, which is Holyflare and Vivax. Holyflare for the reasons I've already said here. It's way too obvious for me. He's been selective, manipulative, and I don't believe he is trying to actually solve the game. Vivax because he has been under the radar, playing a very safe game, and at the moment he could throw suspicions at me, he did. It fits mafia perspective very well. Also, I remember Vivax been very paranoid and erratic as town. He would think everything is scummy, jumping on every person. This Vivax calls me out for "shitting the thread" without actually commenting on what I've said about Holyflare while assuming Holyflare is town (he would never give Holyflare a pass). Just as last game.
Also, see that Holyflare never said a thing about Vivax. I've asked him what he thinks about Vivax, but he ignored. It's hard to talk about key people when you have perfect information.
A team of Vivax and Holyflare is very possible. But I don't want to talk about teams because it would be unflipped association. I am scumreading both for their play alone.

On March 29 2020 02:27 LightningStrike wrote:

Good points about how mafia would act in a 9v2 vs a normal setup. Ya Vivax isn't as paranoid this game as he normally is as town and clearly didn't read the thread much at all when he called you out when fi he had looked at EoD he would clearly see why you swapped (and for that matter why I also swapped). HF is definitely looking worse that lynch on KSC based on the fact he made the case on KSC and pushed him.

On March 29 2020 02:00 LightningStrike wrote:

So why didn't you try to yell at people to lynch shockeyy at EoD if you really thought shockeyy was scum?

On March 29 2020 02:36 GlowingBear wrote:


Exactly. I was upset when he called me out, it's very frustrating playing a game where I believe Holyflare is mafia but people don't want to consider it just because he is a high profile player. I've lost countless games to this thinking. I even lost a game where I flipped cop and had a red check on him, and people didn't lynch him because they thought he was a miller. It's frustrating.

Anyway, took my time off the game and I'm not upset anymore. And analyzing Vivax reaction to me, it feels extremely fake. I'm confident he is mafia.

On March 29 2020 02:36 Palmar wrote:

I told people to lynch him and gave reasons.

I also wasn't here at the deadline or anywhere near it really.

On March 29 2020 02:36 GlowingBear wrote:
Anyway, took my time off the game and I'm not upset anymore. And analyzing Vivax reaction to me, it feels extremely fake. I'm confident he is mafia.