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Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
October 03 2019 02:10 GMT
#1390
On October 03 2019 11:02 CopCake wrote:
I mean HF was also already after me and GB so why Mafia GB would carry the kill if he could be blocked/tracked/etc when he was in the middle of the hurricane for town with that sudden change of read on Ewya.


You're using hindsight. I don't think gb was really scum read by anyone but me at the time and I certainly don't think they thought I'd be tracker.

Also, sorry you're feeling shitty. You've done well imo at giving reasons for why you think/thought shockey is mafia.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
October 03 2019 02:16 GMT
#1394
On October 03 2019 11:14 CopCake wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 03 2019 11:10 Holyflare wrote:
On October 03 2019 11:02 CopCake wrote:
I mean HF was also already after me and GB so why Mafia GB would carry the kill if he could be blocked/tracked/etc when he was in the middle of the hurricane for town with that sudden change of read on Ewya.


You're using hindsight. I don't think gb was really scum read by anyone but me at the time and I certainly don't think they thought I'd be tracker.

Also, sorry you're feeling shitty. You've done well imo at giving reasons for why you think/thought shockey is mafia.


Yeah but with poe we have vivax, tube and shockey as town reads? By almost all? Why give the kill to the most heated person at the time (GB). With heated I mean by you :p


Maybe the other mafia was quite well town read? I don't know. Maybe specifically so that they could say they were saved?
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
October 03 2019 02:16 GMT
#1396
Maybe it was an accident I honestly have no idea.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
October 03 2019 02:19 GMT
#1398
I think it's GB + one of tube/vivax/shockey though, 100%. There's no way I believe a town GB has this much resolve to hold back from calling me mafia all of a sudden. The sudden change of personality just looks like he's attempting to get people on his side (especially me, so many attempts to try and buddy me).

Then he miraculously decides shockey isn't the lynch over vivax even though he's called shockey mafia for the past 2 days with almost no content from either? Don't buy it.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
October 03 2019 02:21 GMT
#1399
On October 03 2019 11:18 ShoCkeyy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 03 2019 11:11 FreezingFoot wrote:
On October 03 2019 11:06 ShoCkeyy wrote:
Ok, think about it this way, I'm not mafia. Now what are your reads?

Also why does town want to give up a kill on a possible mafia? If there's two people that are mafia, we have a 29% chance of killing one of them now. If there's three mafia, we have 43% chance.

If you Lynch me that's going to give a ton of odds over to mafia. I personally think there's a possibility of godfather, and role blocker. It's a NEWBIE game, why not teach both roles while at it.

Also I'm going to follow up in like 30mins with a big post. Just need to write it out. Then I won't be back for a till late.


I don’t mean to offend you, but nothing you say is relevant to the game and your reads are mostly based on WIFOM.

So, we have Holyflare saying he didn’t track tubesock into me. Who are you going to vote?


No offense taken, but that may also be the mafia talking. Cause I know damn well I'm not mafia. And I think I play an ok mafia role, so I think I can find them easily.


If you are town then GB should be almost confirmed mafia to you.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
October 03 2019 02:34 GMT
#1401
On October 03 2019 11:33 CopCake wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 03 2019 11:19 Holyflare wrote:
I think it's GB + one of tube/vivax/shockey though, 100%. There's no way I believe a town GB has this much resolve to hold back from calling me mafia all of a sudden. The sudden change of personality just looks like he's attempting to get people on his side (especially me, so many attempts to try and buddy me).

Then he miraculously decides shockey isn't the lynch over vivax even though he's called shockey mafia for the past 2 days with almost no content from either? Don't buy it.


Then mafia has a cop for sure.

Like

If GB was mafia... why wouldnt he block you?

Or his mate.

AGJSHDJAGEAGGJ,E,K


Maybe he's the rber? Maybe they block who they try and kill in case of a vet? All valid reasoning.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
October 03 2019 02:36 GMT
#1402
Who is to say that gb isn't the rber who sent the kill on me but got rbd?
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
October 03 2019 02:48 GMT
#1404
Maybe I should read these people's filters :D
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
October 03 2019 03:04 GMT
#1406
What reads has tube given on gb that scream town?
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
October 03 2019 03:13 GMT
#1412
On October 03 2019 12:11 FreezingFoot wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 03 2019 11:33 CopCake wrote:
On October 03 2019 11:19 Holyflare wrote:
I think it's GB + one of tube/vivax/shockey though, 100%. There's no way I believe a town GB has this much resolve to hold back from calling me mafia all of a sudden. The sudden change of personality just looks like he's attempting to get people on his side (especially me, so many attempts to try and buddy me).

Then he miraculously decides shockey isn't the lynch over vivax even though he's called shockey mafia for the past 2 days with almost no content from either? Don't buy it.


Then mafia has a cop for sure.

Like

If GB was mafia... why wouldnt he block you?

Or his mate.

AGJSHDJAGEAGGJ,E,K

ARE TOU TRACKER?


I am never backing down from my claim. Cop visited nobody n1.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
October 03 2019 03:16 GMT
#1414
Were you around at deadline when boxer died, Shockey?
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
October 03 2019 03:25 GMT
#1419
On October 03 2019 12:20 ShoCkeyy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 03 2019 12:16 Holyflare wrote:
Were you around at deadline when boxer died, Shockey?


No I wasn't looking at the timestamps, I had a post a few hours before however. And with my mind changing on Tube, it definitely leads me only to GB.

Show nested quote +
On October 01 2019 00:07 ShoCkeyy wrote:
But in all honesty, lets say boxer doesn't flip, who does that lead us too? I mean it doesn't change my read on Tubesock, I personally think he's the scummiest out of everyone since he's been the only active one.

As I said yesterday:

On September 30 2019 08:19 Grackaroni wrote:
Day Two Vote Count

FreezingFoot (2): Holyflare, Tubesock
Boxerfred(1): Tubesock, Vivax
ShoCkeyy(1): CopCake
Tubesock (0): Vivax
Branch.AUT (0): Holyflare
CopCake (0): Vivax

Not Voting (4): Branch.AUT, Boxerfred, Shockeyy, FreezingFoot

FreezingFoot is currently set to be lynched.

Please let us know if you notice any mistakes! The deadline is Monday, Sep 30 6:00pm GMT (GMT+00:00), which is in



If you exclude Branch and I from the not voting list, it leaves you Boxer + Freezing, Tube jumps on the Freezing train because he knows that may never go off with how others are targeting people such as myself. Copcake is just chasing after me because they hate me no matter what and would just rather see me lynched. Not a good townie, but understandable.



Right

On October 01 2019 00:47 ShoCkeyy wrote:
I don't care if you don't move off of me, but you're not doing the town any favors by trying to vote for me, or trying to create a train on me, that's why it's so hard to move you into a solid 100% town.

On October 01 2019 05:52 ShoCkeyy wrote:
Even if you switched it to me, that’s killing off another townie. The last few pages have been a wild ride.


There's a massive gap between you saying the first and second post here with the deadline occurring in between. As it stood you weren't even up for lynch, bf was.

So, why is it a good tubesock point to say you're town because you didn't save yourself if you were quite simply not here to?
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
October 03 2019 03:35 GMT
#1422
I've already explained all of mafia gb's motives, doesn't seem like anything new. I have absolutely no idea how you've reached the conclusion I'm mafia with gb though. I'm the biggest advocate for his lynch at every point this game.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
October 03 2019 03:38 GMT
#1423
Killing boxerfred as part of the plan I made was to make the game mylo instead of lylo. Then we no lynch the next day for more info and another cycle to talk.

If shockey is town then lynching him in mylo would lose us the game. That's part of the reason I scum read gb because he said he was following the plan and then advocated for a shockey lynch directly after.

Maybe he doesn't wanna do it now because it proves me town if shockey is town?
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
October 03 2019 03:41 GMT
#1425
On October 03 2019 12:40 ShoCkeyy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 03 2019 12:35 Holyflare wrote:
I've already explained all of mafia gb's motives, doesn't seem like anything new. I have absolutely no idea how you've reached the conclusion I'm mafia with gb though. I'm the biggest advocate for his lynch at every point this game.


I had to go through all possibilities.


Wait so what exactly is your definitive scum team list?
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
October 03 2019 03:44 GMT
#1427
Also fuck you guys. I keep forcing myself to stay awake just so I get a chance to talk to talk to everyone between timezones for once. It's 5am ffs.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
October 03 2019 03:47 GMT
#1432
On October 03 2019 12:47 FreezingFoot wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 03 2019 12:32 ShoCkeyy wrote:
Even if I was here, I wouldn't have moved off. I'm not mafia nor am I GB. I would of actually preferred to get lynch cause I've been on a business trip since Sunday, but that didn't happen and I'm here doing my best to participate and help town out. Also as I mentioned in a earlier post, GB flip to boxer was because if I was voted off, it would of not been easy to lynch boxer later, I'm an easier lynch or they think. It would of changed the games dynamic from thinking I'm mafia to pointing towards others, mafia love that I get the attention, so why vote me off so early?


Why wouldn’t I simply kill two townies in a row?


Because if shockey is town you have a ready made wagon in mylo that everyone is amicable to lynch.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
October 03 2019 03:49 GMT
#1434
On October 03 2019 12:48 FreezingFoot wrote:
HF, consider for a second that I’m not mafia. Who would be, then?


The hosts for giving you the wrong role pm.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
October 03 2019 03:52 GMT
#1438
The most surreal thing to me and probably what convinced me finally that you were mafia, other than everything you did today was the fact you randomly switched to vote boxerfred right at the last second. Your reason was to literally follow my plan in case he was town and you whined and went directly against it immediately without hesitation. Pre-thought out reactions and fake af. There is no town reason to do what you did.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
October 03 2019 03:55 GMT
#1440
On October 03 2019 12:51 FreezingFoot wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 03 2019 12:47 Holyflare wrote:
On October 03 2019 12:47 FreezingFoot wrote:
On October 03 2019 12:32 ShoCkeyy wrote:
Even if I was here, I wouldn't have moved off. I'm not mafia nor am I GB. I would of actually preferred to get lynch cause I've been on a business trip since Sunday, but that didn't happen and I'm here doing my best to participate and help town out. Also as I mentioned in a earlier post, GB flip to boxer was because if I was voted off, it would of not been easy to lynch boxer later, I'm an easier lynch or they think. It would of changed the games dynamic from thinking I'm mafia to pointing towards others, mafia love that I get the attention, so why vote me off so early?


Why wouldn’t I simply kill two townies in a row?


Because if shockey is town you have a ready made wagon in mylo that everyone is amicable to lynch.


6v2
4v2 n2
3v2 d3

Vs

4v2 d3

Although what you say makes sense, I think I would prefer to kill 2 townies every time just to have more vote power d3.

Anyway, I should be voting shocked 100^, right? Especially if Vivax flips mafia.


You have less vote power. Your teammate is more likely to be randomly lynched. There is no backup wagon after shockey for you to be sure who would be up next.
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