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On July 03 2019 19:15 Holyflare wrote: If they are mafia together then why would she ever want to lynch her partner? Because if she doesn't, and then dies anyway, we kill grack tomorrow and win | ||
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On July 03 2019 19:18 Holyflare wrote: And then she can't play after friday when her hotspot goes so okay. I prefer to at least assume that people are playing to their wincon unless they show that they aren't. | ||
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He has given one read and nothing else, no town reads. Could well be mafia tbh. | ||
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On July 03 2019 20:07 Holyflare wrote: This is wrong, I quite clearly called out pandain and you piggybacked it but it's not here. Me being lazy doesn't make me mafia though. I just missed it I'll change it now. I also forgot to put all of rayn's reads in there for some reason. I'll post the updated version when I get back to work I'm just at home having lunch. On July 03 2019 20:10 Holyflare wrote: You can repeat about grack being town makes es town till you're blue in the face but I don't believe in that metric. But you do believe that ES is mafia because she got a meta read wrong on you. | ||
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You can repeat about grack being town makes es town till you're blue in the face but I don't believe in that metric. Isn't an explanation but just burying your head in the sand. | ||
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On July 03 2019 07:02 Holyflare wrote: This is the most reasoning I think I've ever seen eywa post for a scum read in any game and it's coherent and says actual things that make people scummy.... and I kinda think that might make him mafia? :D that's fucked up logic On July 03 2019 20:17 Holyflare wrote: Eywa? Eywa looks identical to eywa last game but for some reason they are ES's seemingly only scum read in the whole game. | ||
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I've never played against scum hf before | ||
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All he has done in this game so far is three things: 1: Made a throwaway point about pandain and never pushed it. 2: Made a terrible, nonsensical scum read on ES, who was already under pressure from elsewhere 3: Tried to justify this read when it was pointed out that it makes no sense, directly contradicting something he said earlier about eywa. No attempt to engage with town, just jumped on the easiest wagon and stayed there with very bad reasons. ##vote holyflare If anyone can see a reason not to vote hf over ES, come and say it, convince me. hf has been useless, lazy and scummy and has done nothing townish in the entire game. | ||
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On July 03 2019 20:35 Pandain wrote: Unfortunately HF tunnels extremely easily. I could easily see him doing this as town. There was another game earlier this year where Bugs, BC, VE, and I got him lynched because he was extremely tunneled on me and never made posts about anyone else. He ended up being town. I could see this being true, but its not a reason not to lynch him. HF isn't just tunnelled here, he's playing scummy. If we don't lynch him when he plays scummy because 'he sometimes plays like that as town' we're giving him free wins when he's mafia. | ||
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On July 03 2019 20:36 Pandain wrote: Plus I could understand the Eywa "slipup". It's both true that his playstyle has been pretty much the same, but it's also true he's made some suprisingly coherent points. Neither of those are exclusive to each other. Its the whole picture together that does it for me... 1: hf didn't really seemed to go either way on ES until exactly the moment that ES got 3 votes from other people. Then all of a sudden its 'ES is scum' for bad reasons. I know hf gets tunnelled but usually his cases make sense in some way. In this case, nothing he has said about ES would her mafia. 2: His case is bad and he knows it, but is sticking with his vote for other reasons 3: That reason is that eywa is playing exactly the same as before, even though there's so much of a difference from before that hf pointed it out and nearly scumread eywa for it. The whole sequence of events is clearly mafia like. | ||
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On July 03 2019 20:43 Holyflare wrote: It's not a slip up it was a facetious point that I don't even know if I believe. Why shouldn't I lynch you from your play so far? | ||
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I'm not voting you because of stuff you haven't posted. I'm voting you because what you have posted looks scummy. The laziness and lack of reads just gives me a starting point to look at your posting more closely. | ||
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I don't like this line argument tbh. For a start, his vote was the fourth one on ES. You,rayn and eywa were all on ES when hf voted. to be fair though, you're right that he made his 'you're mafia' post before eywa and rayn vote so I concede that point. But otherwise, I don't like the idea that someone is acting scummy, but we give them a pass because they always act scummy. Long term that just doesn't work for me. | ||
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On July 03 2019 21:08 Eywa- wrote: Jockmcplop, have you abandoned your confidence approach from last game? I'm trying not to but I can't help not being confident in my own reads when the reasons aren't convincing. There wasn't really anything in there that was very good imo until i got to hf. | ||
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