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On July 04 2019 02:34 Grackaroni wrote:Show nested quote +On July 03 2019 18:08 Holyflare wrote:On July 03 2019 17:51 Pandain wrote:
I don't think ES is crazy/meta enough to do something like that. It's obvious she's been desperate to survive, if she was mafia she would jump at the opportunity to lynch someone she has expressed doubts about before.
@conf, HF, Rayn please comment on this. I don't agree with your conclusion. She's meekly soft defended grack all game and then sprinkled "hesitance" and done nothing with it. They could easily be mafia together, or she could know he's town. Both things point to a mafia es because grack looks absolutely shit and a free lynch for literally anyone to hop onto.  Show nested quote +On July 04 2019 01:54 Holyflare wrote:
If I had to choose between Grack or ES for a lynch I'd probably choose grack tbh. His filter is void of literally aby content. People are town, he guesses I could maybe be mafia. Es is town because of bathtub? Drunk posting that doesn't even look drunk?
Dumb and probably mafia. + Show Spoiler +
Difference being I read your filter in between those posts. It's bad.
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I mean I even said you both could be mafia! So I'll lynch the shitters first 
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At least I post real content when I'm lazy!
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I think I'll leave my vote where it is in the meanwhile...
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On July 04 2019 03:22 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On July 03 2019 23:32 Holyflare wrote:On July 03 2019 23:19 Trfel wrote:On July 03 2019 01:09 Eversince wrote:
And I've played with HF a few times over the years. He's stupid good mafia player. If he's town he'll figure things out! Go look at his massive list of games to look. Like he can be wrong but mafia almost always shoot into the vets on this site (HF/Rayn/Marv etc..etc.) @Raynpelikoneet, is the bolded the thing you are using to scumread Eversince? Because to me, Eversince is saying here that Holyflare is good at mafia as a game, not as an alignment. She also clarified that she meant I'm good at mafia rather than the mafia alignment. I know she did but do you believe that's the truth? I don't.
Yeah because why would she say I'm good as mafia and simultaneously say I'm afk as mafia? She wouldn't.
My points were about something completely different though and I don't think they're as awful as pandain and jock make them out to be.
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On July 04 2019 03:28 Eversince wrote:Show nested quote +On July 04 2019 03:24 Holyflare wrote:On July 04 2019 03:22 raynpelikoneet wrote:On July 03 2019 23:32 Holyflare wrote:On July 03 2019 23:19 Trfel wrote:On July 03 2019 01:09 Eversince wrote:
And I've played with HF a few times over the years. He's stupid good mafia player. If he's town he'll figure things out! Go look at his massive list of games to look. Like he can be wrong but mafia almost always shoot into the vets on this site (HF/Rayn/Marv etc..etc.) @Raynpelikoneet, is the bolded the thing you are using to scumread Eversince? Because to me, Eversince is saying here that Holyflare is good at mafia as a game, not as an alignment. She also clarified that she meant I'm good at mafia rather than the mafia alignment. I know she did but do you believe that's the truth? I don't. Yeah because why would she say I'm good as mafia and simultaneously say I'm afk as mafia? She wouldn't. My points were about something completely different though and I don't think they're as awful as pandain and jock make them out to be. Summarize for me. because I thought your points against me where crap.
But you agreed with them and said my vote is valid because of it originally lol?
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On July 03 2019 02:55 Eversince wrote:
I don't even think his scum read on me is wrong. I made a mistake and HF finding a problem with it makes sense because I made no sense.
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On July 04 2019 03:29 Eversince wrote:
m!ES makes a trash meta read on me. Get caught. Lynch with bunches of fire!!
What other point did you have?
That you meekly defend grack and don't even give a read on him. Just that he's not leading the town anywhere so isn't likely mafia (your meta read on him) but you also say if he doesn't play and is inactive that's what he does as town if he comes back and plays later.
Then grack does not much at all and suddenly it's oh grack is inactive maybe he's the lynch later but you never really push that.
If grack is mafia he's not following your mafia meta of grack by being inactive. If he's town, he is. You don't double down on the meta read but start to open up on the option of grack just as he becomes a wagon and you're in the lead.
The person you jump to lynching is eywa who is playing almost identical to last game with the exception of posting why they actually scum read you BUT you're mafia reading eywa, not for explaining the read which is different play from last game but scum reading eywa for playing exactly like last game (where they were town)!
You are eroding your grack read which doesn't match to your thought process.
You have only ever wanted to lynch the lynch bait who plays like they were town last game.
You defended me from pressure even though I did literally nothing AND THAT WAS YOUR MAFIA META ON ME.
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On July 04 2019 03:34 Eversince wrote:Show nested quote +On July 04 2019 03:28 Holyflare wrote:On July 04 2019 03:28 Eversince wrote:On July 04 2019 03:24 Holyflare wrote:On July 04 2019 03:22 raynpelikoneet wrote:On July 03 2019 23:32 Holyflare wrote:On July 03 2019 23:19 Trfel wrote:On July 03 2019 01:09 Eversince wrote:
And I've played with HF a few times over the years. He's stupid good mafia player. If he's town he'll figure things out! Go look at his massive list of games to look. Like he can be wrong but mafia almost always shoot into the vets on this site (HF/Rayn/Marv etc..etc.) @Raynpelikoneet, is the bolded the thing you are using to scumread Eversince? Because to me, Eversince is saying here that Holyflare is good at mafia as a game, not as an alignment. She also clarified that she meant I'm good at mafia rather than the mafia alignment. I know she did but do you believe that's the truth? I don't. Yeah because why would she say I'm good as mafia and simultaneously say I'm afk as mafia? She wouldn't. My points were about something completely different though and I don't think they're as awful as pandain and jock make them out to be. Summarize for me. because I thought your points against me where crap. But you agreed with them and said my vote is valid because of it originally lol? I agreed with why you made them! I tried real hard to explain myself after that fact. You obviously don't like it but it still kind of proved my point because here you are. trying to engage game (Did the same there), and solve things. The fact you completely ignore my response due to mia/w/e makes me feel worse on you because I've been transparent on how I develop. So you continuing to push me is questionable at this point.
No, it's not. I did literally the same thing to Pandain last game and he even complained about it.
If you agreed with them why did you just come in and say my points were trash?
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I'm not picking a fight. I just think you're mafia because you haven't really called anyone other than eywa mafia. Prove someone else is mafia and why I should vote for them.
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I did and until you generate new content nothing will change. Sorry if I'm wrong but I don't currently think that I am.
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On July 04 2019 03:52 Eversince wrote:
I am generating content! That's bologna! I've spent half my time trying to explain myself. You continuing to try to kill me is weird now. Like 'nothing ES says this game' changes your opinion? You want huge case post? Too bad, I'm really bad at them. You want analysis? Point me where. You want explanation? On what?
Your driving me seems super forced here. I don't like it at all. I was ready to call the whole Jock/HF thing town vs town but your making me doubt myself..
I've literally done nothing but summarise my case on you, which has yet to be answered. So, yeah, I want a case on who we should vote that isn't anything to do with eywa who is currently my town read and is playing exactly like last game.
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On July 04 2019 03:59 Conversion wrote:
I have one person in Pandain telling people I’m being “aggressive” and “not doing anything” and he can’t even bother to read a 2 page filter.
I have another person in Grack making trash tier posts, and all of a sudden wanting to lynch me
There’s no way either of you are town with these garbage tier plays, is there?
You're not up for lynch and neither are any of them (apart from kind of grack). Would you like to make a case on them?
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ES can you summarise why Eywa is your biggest scum read in this entire game in a few bullet points please?
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On July 04 2019 04:10 Eversince wrote:Show nested quote +On July 03 2019 04:42 Eversince wrote:On July 03 2019 04:41 Eywa- wrote:On July 03 2019 04:40 Eversince wrote:
So you're saying I'm an info lynch? I'm saying I think you're mafia. Make up your mind here. I'm mafia, RNG, and now back to mafia. Why? Show nested quote +On July 03 2019 04:56 Eversince wrote:On July 03 2019 04:47 Eywa- wrote:On July 03 2019 04:42 Eversince wrote:On July 03 2019 04:41 Eywa- wrote:On July 03 2019 04:40 Eversince wrote:
So you're saying I'm an info lynch? I'm saying I think you're mafia. Make up your mind here. I'm mafia, RNG, and now back to mafia. Why? No, I've always said you're mafia, a role which you obtained via RNG. Ok. That's the most bullshit reason ever! I'm sorry for the strong language but this crap everyone is m!ES reading me is total crap. You put a scum read on me BECAUSE FF RNG me mafia. If that is the entirety of your read that's just junk! There is so much else in the thread and adide from you evading Rayn you've done nothing. Literally trying to be around and engage with people again, get thread moving, explain my thoughts, own to mistakes, What in all of this makes you think I'm scum? Because I found it scummy Conv went after me for these reasons. I'm find it worst becuase you mia and then jump on these same reasons. Show nested quote +On July 03 2019 05:01 Eversince wrote:On July 03 2019 05:00 Eywa- wrote:On July 03 2019 04:58 Eversince wrote:
I apologies for the bad spelling btw. I'm so tired right now I could fall over.. I didn't through, I'm reading you as mafia because you're mafia by play. What IN my play has seemed scum to you? Show nested quote +On July 03 2019 05:14 Eversince wrote:On July 03 2019 05:07 Eywa- wrote:
Idk, feels like you've slipped a bunch and you're reluctant to just tell people they're wrong when reading you. You on multiple occasions tiptoed around that either indicating you don't like the way you're being read or that you felt a read on you was justified (despite it being a mafia read)
You also haven't provided much substance imo despite aggressively posting (I know, I'm the one talking...)
Overall, I'm failing to see any reason to not lynch you. Hopefully this falls into the category of sufficient justification, because I won't be going into any of the scum theater, that's discussion for another day.
Throw your vote down and stop saying how much you don't like my position, if you don't like it, put your vote where your mouth is. Yes maby I am to nice to people. Starting a game how is that bad? To me it seems like your taking easy town lynch because I CAN'T play the same every game. So just kill her. Maby I think about this wrong. Maby I just need to be assholes to everyone. But that is not who I am so I can't do it!! Show nested quote +On July 03 2019 05:44 Eversince wrote:On July 03 2019 05:41 Eversince wrote:On July 03 2019 05:31 Eywa- wrote:On July 03 2019 05:14 Eversince wrote:On July 03 2019 05:07 Eywa- wrote:
Idk, feels like you've slipped a bunch and you're reluctant to just tell people they're wrong when reading you. You on multiple occasions tiptoed around that either indicating you don't like the way you're being read or that you felt a read on you was justified (despite it being a mafia read)
You also haven't provided much substance imo despite aggressively posting (I know, I'm the one talking...)
Overall, I'm failing to see any reason to not lynch you. Hopefully this falls into the category of sufficient justification, because I won't be going into any of the scum theater, that's discussion for another day.
Throw your vote down and stop saying how much you don't like my position, if you don't like it, put your vote where your mouth is. Yes maby I am to nice to people. Starting a game how is that bad? To me it seems like your taking easy town lynch because I CAN'T play the same every game. So just kill her. Maby I think about this wrong. Maby I just need to be assholes to everyone. But that is not who I am so I can't do it!! Nah, your start to this game (basically your entire first page of game (not including pre-game) filter is: I start every town game with just spamming up the thread trying to talk to people!1) trying to pocket Pandain Pocket Pandain? I've actively not wanted to scum read him for bad reasons. I already said I don't get his logic. I don't want to waste entire game waffling him again!2) random town read on first player to post See above3) trying to pocket Pandain Assume this is a repeat, see above4) AtE I don't know what AtE means so I can respond here.There's some random comment about how you don't mind conversion (that was contradicted like 2-3 posts later - and then later escalated again). where?Overall, here's a summary... You're all over that AtE this game You're always coming back to Pandain mafia and claiming that his read on you is wrong... Well, if he's mafia... He's not wrong is he? He's just... Well, Mafia. Yes. But it makes no sense for t!ES to mud up the thread because Pandain is doing nothing so.You went through a phase of trying to name drop every player in the game, which lead to some reads escalating rather... Strangely. I went through a 'phase' of trying to recall thing on players I've played with for years. I owned up to were I made mistakes.You seem to be displaying a complete lack of understanding for why anyone is being read in certain ways rather than seeing things from their (town) perspective. That totally explains why I have a scum read on you right?I'm voting ES now, I'll be voting ES at end of day as well. Ok? I think? Basically to sum it up. I think it's trash to come in throw a vote on me. Doesn't explain anything. Leave.. Come back and respond with more useless crap because 'ES is mafia so ignore' Rinse repeat. I give Conv a little more room because at the point he did it wouldn't matter. I still think it's a iffy reason to vote but his vote is leading to nothing there.
The first 2 quotes are Eywa trolling you. The last 2 quotes look like fine reasons to think you're mafia?
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On July 04 2019 04:13 Holyflare wrote:Show nested quote +On July 04 2019 04:10 Eversince wrote:On July 03 2019 04:42 Eversince wrote:On July 03 2019 04:41 Eywa- wrote:On July 03 2019 04:40 Eversince wrote:
So you're saying I'm an info lynch? I'm saying I think you're mafia. Make up your mind here. I'm mafia, RNG, and now back to mafia. Why? On July 03 2019 04:56 Eversince wrote:On July 03 2019 04:47 Eywa- wrote:On July 03 2019 04:42 Eversince wrote:On July 03 2019 04:41 Eywa- wrote:On July 03 2019 04:40 Eversince wrote:
So you're saying I'm an info lynch? I'm saying I think you're mafia. Make up your mind here. I'm mafia, RNG, and now back to mafia. Why? No, I've always said you're mafia, a role which you obtained via RNG. Ok. That's the most bullshit reason ever! I'm sorry for the strong language but this crap everyone is m!ES reading me is total crap. You put a scum read on me BECAUSE FF RNG me mafia. If that is the entirety of your read that's just junk! There is so much else in the thread and adide from you evading Rayn you've done nothing. Literally trying to be around and engage with people again, get thread moving, explain my thoughts, own to mistakes, What in all of this makes you think I'm scum? Because I found it scummy Conv went after me for these reasons. I'm find it worst becuase you mia and then jump on these same reasons. On July 03 2019 05:01 Eversince wrote:On July 03 2019 05:00 Eywa- wrote:On July 03 2019 04:58 Eversince wrote:
I apologies for the bad spelling btw. I'm so tired right now I could fall over.. I didn't through, I'm reading you as mafia because you're mafia by play. What IN my play has seemed scum to you? On July 03 2019 05:14 Eversince wrote:On July 03 2019 05:07 Eywa- wrote:
Idk, feels like you've slipped a bunch and you're reluctant to just tell people they're wrong when reading you. You on multiple occasions tiptoed around that either indicating you don't like the way you're being read or that you felt a read on you was justified (despite it being a mafia read)
You also haven't provided much substance imo despite aggressively posting (I know, I'm the one talking...)
Overall, I'm failing to see any reason to not lynch you. Hopefully this falls into the category of sufficient justification, because I won't be going into any of the scum theater, that's discussion for another day.
Throw your vote down and stop saying how much you don't like my position, if you don't like it, put your vote where your mouth is. Yes maby I am to nice to people. Starting a game how is that bad? To me it seems like your taking easy town lynch because I CAN'T play the same every game. So just kill her. Maby I think about this wrong. Maby I just need to be assholes to everyone. But that is not who I am so I can't do it!! On July 03 2019 05:44 Eversince wrote:On July 03 2019 05:41 Eversince wrote:On July 03 2019 05:31 Eywa- wrote:On July 03 2019 05:14 Eversince wrote:On July 03 2019 05:07 Eywa- wrote:
Idk, feels like you've slipped a bunch and you're reluctant to just tell people they're wrong when reading you. You on multiple occasions tiptoed around that either indicating you don't like the way you're being read or that you felt a read on you was justified (despite it being a mafia read)
You also haven't provided much substance imo despite aggressively posting (I know, I'm the one talking...)
Overall, I'm failing to see any reason to not lynch you. Hopefully this falls into the category of sufficient justification, because I won't be going into any of the scum theater, that's discussion for another day.
Throw your vote down and stop saying how much you don't like my position, if you don't like it, put your vote where your mouth is. Yes maby I am to nice to people. Starting a game how is that bad? To me it seems like your taking easy town lynch because I CAN'T play the same every game. So just kill her. Maby I think about this wrong. Maby I just need to be assholes to everyone. But that is not who I am so I can't do it!! Nah, your start to this game (basically your entire first page of game (not including pre-game) filter is: I start every town game with just spamming up the thread trying to talk to people!1) trying to pocket Pandain Pocket Pandain? I've actively not wanted to scum read him for bad reasons. I already said I don't get his logic. I don't want to waste entire game waffling him again!2) random town read on first player to post See above3) trying to pocket Pandain Assume this is a repeat, see above4) AtE I don't know what AtE means so I can respond here.There's some random comment about how you don't mind conversion (that was contradicted like 2-3 posts later - and then later escalated again). where?Overall, here's a summary... You're all over that AtE this game You're always coming back to Pandain mafia and claiming that his read on you is wrong... Well, if he's mafia... He's not wrong is he? He's just... Well, Mafia. Yes. But it makes no sense for t!ES to mud up the thread because Pandain is doing nothing so.You went through a phase of trying to name drop every player in the game, which lead to some reads escalating rather... Strangely. I went through a 'phase' of trying to recall thing on players I've played with for years. I owned up to were I made mistakes.You seem to be displaying a complete lack of understanding for why anyone is being read in certain ways rather than seeing things from their (town) perspective. That totally explains why I have a scum read on you right?I'm voting ES now, I'll be voting ES at end of day as well. Ok? I think? Basically to sum it up. I think it's trash to come in throw a vote on me. Doesn't explain anything. Leave.. Come back and respond with more useless crap because 'ES is mafia so ignore' Rinse repeat. I give Conv a little more room because at the point he did it wouldn't matter. I still think it's a iffy reason to vote but his vote is leading to nothing there. The first 2 quotes are Eywa trolling you. The last 2 quotes look like fine reasons to think you're mafia?
Do you not remember Eywa posting the exact same things in the last game as town?
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On July 04 2019 04:21 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On July 04 2019 04:19 Pandain wrote:On July 04 2019 03:22 raynpelikoneet wrote:On July 03 2019 23:32 Holyflare wrote:On July 03 2019 23:19 Trfel wrote:On July 03 2019 01:09 Eversince wrote:
And I've played with HF a few times over the years. He's stupid good mafia player. If he's town he'll figure things out! Go look at his massive list of games to look. Like he can be wrong but mafia almost always shoot into the vets on this site (HF/Rayn/Marv etc..etc.) @Raynpelikoneet, is the bolded the thing you are using to scumread Eversince? Because to me, Eversince is saying here that Holyflare is good at mafia as a game, not as an alignment. She also clarified that she meant I'm good at mafia rather than the mafia alignment. I know she did but do you believe that's the truth? I don't. That was everyone's interpetation of the comment except you. You're the only one reading it otherwise. Also, it's clear that he meant the game and not the alignment because she specifically says "if he's town he'll figure it out" right after. It wouldn't be very sensical if she was referring to the mafia alignment and then said hes a good town player. that's not my point. my point is noone says "good at the game" unless the player in consideration is also good as mafia, because people who are only good as town are not good mafia players.
Even I think this point is a stretch my dude. I've seen plenty of people say that.
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On July 04 2019 04:24 Eversince wrote:Show nested quote +On July 04 2019 04:19 Grackaroni wrote:
Sorry Eversince but I am selfish and nobody is considering other lynches. It's ok. I hope you don't mind I do the same. I'm town so surviving is high on my list. I didn't want to lynch you yet though because I figured you'd play.
THIS is my point exactly.
WHY do you figure he'll just randomly play instead of being mafia??????????????
BUT THEN you say during the day "grack is being useless, maybe he's a good vote!"????????
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On July 04 2019 04:27 Eversince wrote:Show nested quote +On July 04 2019 04:25 Holyflare wrote:On July 04 2019 04:24 Eversince wrote:On July 04 2019 04:19 Grackaroni wrote:
Sorry Eversince but I am selfish and nobody is considering other lynches. It's ok. I hope you don't mind I do the same. I'm town so surviving is high on my list. I didn't want to lynch you yet though because I figured you'd play. THIS is my point exactly. WHY do you figure he'll just randomly play instead of being mafia?????????????? BUT THEN you say during the day "grack is being useless, maybe he's a good vote!"???????? Because he's FORCED to play as mafia. t!Grack doesn't care here and want to be useful so to AVOID this happening! Why so hard to understand?
Then why did you say he's starting to be a good lynch for not playing???
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