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Jockmcplop
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United Kingdom9704 Posts
July 06 2019 16:10 GMT
#1512
Pandain can you convince me that eywa is more likely to be mafia than rayn?

Please try, maybe I will switch.
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Jockmcplop
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United Kingdom9704 Posts
July 06 2019 16:19 GMT
#1515
Rayn what's with the long unreadable unformatted blocks of text dude?
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Jockmcplop
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United Kingdom9704 Posts
July 06 2019 16:31 GMT
#1519
On July 07 2019 01:14 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 07 2019 01:06 Jockmcplop wrote:
On July 07 2019 01:03 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Also there is nothing OMGUS in my case on jock. Only facts.


You literally used the fact that i made a case on you to 'prove' that I had 'outed' myself as mafia.

That's omgus, my friend.

It's not omgus because your reasoning is full of shit and i pointed out why. You read me mafia parlty for same stuff you read me town for earlier on. Therefore you are using the same reasoning to call me different alignments when nothing in the game should suggest that.


I would say my reasoning early on was more likely to be shit given that all my early reads were 100% wrong. Therefore, I decided to look at the game differently to try and get a handle on it.
When i did that, I realized that you look like mafia to me.


You have never taken any stance on Eversince
,
The stance I have taken on ES is clearly that I don't think she's mafia, and its pretty obvious since all of my votes so far have been helping ES not die.
I think ES is town.

not tried to prove why the case on her is wrong, and then you call me mafia for my D1 end when i was the ONLY person who ACTUALLY defended Conversion. I literally pointed out why Grackaroni's case was crap and i thought Grackaroni is mafia for it. I thought that would be enough but the dumbjheads went and voted for his still 2 minutes into eod.


It depends what you mean by defend. You pointed out that grack's case was crap and you thought grack was mafia, but didn't change your vote because "you don't read the vote thread."

You call me mafia for not "re-evaluating the game" when nothing suggests that i should re-evaluate my read on Eversince, literally fucking nothing, and at the same time you have been wrong on everything in this game pretty much but you simply deny the fact that you could be wrong on Eversince too (every dead townie in this game aside from Grackaroni thought ES is mafia -- and honestly i think those players are better than you).


You haven't looked like you've even tried to figure out the night reads though. You certainly haven't shown any interest in helping the rest of town figure it out either, you just call everything bullshit and insist you are right.

As for the personal attacks:
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The implication that rayn+eywa are mafia is also fucking retarded since rayn+eywa team has the LEAST incentive to kill Holyflare because rayn+eywa are Holyflare's top town reads. eversince and grackaroni are holyflare's scumreads, we know grackaroni is town so why the fuck does rayn+eywa not let holyflare to lead the town to it's doom????? (that's also a point on your stupid re-evaluation accusation). So yeah, there is that.


Night kill motivations are WIFOM and you know it.
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Jockmcplop
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United Kingdom9704 Posts
July 06 2019 16:37 GMT
#1524
On July 07 2019 01:34 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 07 2019 01:31 Jockmcplop wrote:
You haven't looked like you've even tried to figure out the night reads though. You certainly haven't shown any interest in helping the rest of town figure it out either, you just call everything bullshit and insist you are right.

Like this is the shittiest point you have made all game long. I think this is probably the shittiest point made in this game.

Explain to me, and everyone, why should i reconsider my read on Eversince? What has happened after D1 that should make me reconsider my read?


I'm not saying you should reconsider your read on eversince

I am categorically not saying, and have never said, that you should reconsider your ES read.

ES being mafia or not is not the only thing in this whole game. There's other stuff happening too and you don't give a shit about trying to figure out what it is or work with town to help us reason it out. There's other people playing too, and I know you feel like you're above all that teamwork and cooperation but for the rest of us that's pretty much what mafia is about.

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Jockmcplop
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United Kingdom9704 Posts
July 06 2019 16:43 GMT
#1527
On July 05 2019 23:55 raynpelikoneet wrote:
why does everyone say they want to read eversince to contribute bot noone ever does it (trfel/jock)?


Also, if you're gonna come at me like that why the fuck were posting this shit after i said i was leaving yesterday. Its a blatant lie! You just ignored it when I pointed out yesterday too I never said I was gonna read ES you're just lying cos you thought i wasn't here reading it.
RIP Meatloaf <3
Jockmcplop
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United Kingdom9704 Posts
July 06 2019 16:45 GMT
#1530
On July 07 2019 01:44 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 07 2019 01:43 Jockmcplop wrote:
On July 05 2019 23:55 raynpelikoneet wrote:
why does everyone say they want to read eversince to contribute bot noone ever does it (trfel/jock)?


Also, if you're gonna come at me like that why the fuck were posting this shit after i said i was leaving yesterday. Its a blatant lie! You just ignored it when I pointed out yesterday too I never said I was gonna read ES you're just lying cos you thought i wasn't here reading it.

I am sorry i didn't know i am unallowed to post when you say you are not around.


Nice deflection, but you can post whenever you want but if you lie about me i'm gonna point it out.
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Jockmcplop
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United Kingdom9704 Posts
July 06 2019 16:51 GMT
#1534
On July 07 2019 01:47 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 07 2019 01:45 Jockmcplop wrote:
On July 07 2019 01:44 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On July 07 2019 01:43 Jockmcplop wrote:
On July 05 2019 23:55 raynpelikoneet wrote:
why does everyone say they want to read eversince to contribute bot noone ever does it (trfel/jock)?


Also, if you're gonna come at me like that why the fuck were posting this shit after i said i was leaving yesterday. Its a blatant lie! You just ignored it when I pointed out yesterday too I never said I was gonna read ES you're just lying cos you thought i wasn't here reading it.

I am sorry i didn't know i am unallowed to post when you say you are not around.


Nice deflection, but you can post whenever you want but if you lie about me i'm gonna point it out.

Show me a post from D2 where you have made a town case on eversince and where you debunk the arguments that have been posted on her?

Hell i dont even fucking know why anyone scumreads Eywa????



*sigh*

Your original post here was:
why does everyone say they want to read eversince to contribute bot noone ever does it (trfel/jock)?


I never said I wanted to read ES to contribute, therefore I never broke my promise to do so. This whole thing is just a lie.

My read on ES is based off the fact that I can't see mafia motivation in her posts. Its also based off the fact I disagree with your case about the thing said about grack that you interpreted one way and ES says she meant a different way.
The reason I'm townreading her now is because from my POV, as I explained yesterday, the only likely teams are you/eywa or ES/trfel and I find you and eywa to be more likely to be mafia.
I don't need to make a town case on ES for that to be true or logical.
RIP Meatloaf <3
Jockmcplop
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United Kingdom9704 Posts
July 06 2019 16:52 GMT
#1535
^^^That's what all the stuff where we were trying to figure out likely/possible mafia teams was about that you weren't interested in. To help get better reads.
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Jockmcplop
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United Kingdom9704 Posts
July 06 2019 16:55 GMT
#1537
On July 06 2019 00:27 Eywa- wrote:
OK, so Rayn is town. lol


I like this post (from yesterday) it kinda came out of nowhere and was never explained.
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Jockmcplop
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United Kingdom9704 Posts
July 06 2019 17:06 GMT
#1541
On July 07 2019 02:00 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 07 2019 01:51 Jockmcplop wrote:
I never said I wanted to read ES to contribute, therefore I never broke my promise to do so. This whole thing is just a lie.

I think this is a heavy suggestion towards that:
Show nested quote +
On July 05 2019 16:28 Jockmcplop wrote:
On July 05 2019 16:23 Jockmcplop wrote:
On July 05 2019 16:20 Jockmcplop wrote:
On July 05 2019 16:18 Eversince wrote:
On July 05 2019 16:13 Jockmcplop wrote:
You are literally accusing the only people who are trying to stop you being lynched today of being mafia


How..?


Pandain isn't mafia

that leaves eywa and rayn who voted together for you on day,

either that or one of me and trfel must be mafia

Me and trfel are trying not to lynch you.



This is the situation as I see it from your POV


From my POV the following are possible mafia teams

Rayn/eywa (my number 1 bet)
ES/trfel (Ima die of embarrassment if this is it and I push to lynch rayn)
trfel/eywa
trfel/rayn (unlikely)


Either way by sitting and figuring this out we can come up with strong reasons to lynch someone.


Here you say you want to sit and figure this out but everything after this post you have posted indicates that you made a decision and then made the reasoning "fit" to your already made conclusion. You simply never ever even for a second show any interest of doing what i underlined and bolded in your post. It's not a lie, everyone can go to Jock's filter and read byu themselves.

Show nested quote +
My read on ES is based off the fact that I can't see mafia motivation in her posts.

But that's not a read, that's just a sentence that sounds nice but doesn't have any proof behind it.
Show nested quote +
Its also based off the fact I disagree with your case about the thing said about grack that you interpreted one way and ES says she meant a different way.

I couldn't care less how ES expalined her posts. She literally called grack town for the same resons she later on said he can be mafia for. That's never coming from a townie and there is no other explanation for that than she is mafia. Period.

Show nested quote +
The reason I'm townreading her now is because from my POV, as I explained yesterday, the only likely teams are you/eywa or ES/trfel and I find you and eywa to be more likely to be mafia.
I don't need to make a town case on ES for that to be true or logical.

see here you do this once again. you have decided who is mafia so "therefore ES has to be town". Like ffs, that's not a read, that's just bullshit. What jock is doing here is "because ES is town then the most likely team is rayn+eywa, and that makes ES town". Fucking circular reasoning, why can't anyone see this?


That whole first section is such absolute horseshit i don't know where to start. After I said that we literally carried on trying to figure the game out. So that didn't involve a big town read post on ES? No, it didn't involve a townread post on trfel either. To take that post as a promise that I would make a town read post on ES is fucking stupid rayn. You are reading one thing and telling yourself it means something completely different. I don't know why you do this, but its exactly what you did with ES earlier too.


There's no circular reasoning involved. The reason I think you are more likely to be mafia than ES is because of your posts, your lack of interest in solving the game etc. etc. all the stuff i already said.

I don't have any kind of read like that on ES, and given that only one of you is mafia, that makes ES town. There's no reason why this is circular logic unless again, you are reading one thing and telling yourself it means something else.


RIP Meatloaf <3
Jockmcplop
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United Kingdom9704 Posts
July 06 2019 17:11 GMT
#1543
Trying to confuse everyone by misinterpreting everything and then going on long rants about it is a great way to play as scum though, because it wastes so much time in "You mean this" "no I don't mean that" arguments that go on for pages. Just as you did with ES one night 1.
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Jockmcplop
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United Kingdom9704 Posts
July 06 2019 19:26 GMT
#1566
If we lose at least i was right about something
RIP Meatloaf <3
Jockmcplop
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United Kingdom9704 Posts
July 06 2019 19:30 GMT
#1573
On July 07 2019 04:26 Pandain wrote:
Town should switch to ES just in case Eywa is somehow bussing and switch to rayn last minute

I don't think either is mafia but that's what the choice is now.


I did this just in case.
RIP Meatloaf <3
Jockmcplop
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United Kingdom9704 Posts
July 06 2019 19:31 GMT
#1574
On July 07 2019 04:28 Eversince wrote:
Eywa/ES team makes so little since that's...ugh.. stop being stupid Pand


If pandain wasn't switching it had to be done
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Jockmcplop
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United Kingdom9704 Posts
July 06 2019 19:32 GMT
#1579
ok sorry rayn ima just sheep you and shut up for the rest of the game
RIP Meatloaf <3
Jockmcplop
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United Kingdom9704 Posts
July 06 2019 19:33 GMT
#1580
unless you lynch me and then i'll just vote trfel

but don't do that
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Jockmcplop
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United Kingdom9704 Posts
July 06 2019 19:34 GMT
#1582
On July 07 2019 04:33 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Well then youre mosy likely voting for yourself tomorrow.


Bad choice but I'll likely not be here defending myself so look at trfel also while i'm not here because trfel is definitely mafia.
RIP Meatloaf <3
Jockmcplop
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United Kingdom9704 Posts
July 07 2019 09:17 GMT
#1605
What would be the most helpful thing i could do for town now?

STFU or answer questions??
RIP Meatloaf <3
Jockmcplop
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United Kingdom9704 Posts
July 07 2019 09:29 GMT
#1615
On July 05 2019 15:48 Trfel wrote:
I'm currently doing a deep dive of raynpelikoneet's filter but @Jockmcplop, at a glance I think I hesitantly agree with you. I'm currently leaning towards lynching him today.


I led the push on rayn.
Trfel followed.
RIP Meatloaf <3
Jockmcplop
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United Kingdom9704 Posts
July 07 2019 09:34 GMT
#1618
Also if everyone thought my case on rayn was super fucking weak (which it clearly was) why did only rayn tell me that at any point?
Like eywa had the 'yeah rayn is town lol' post but that doesn't do much.
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