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On July 05 2019 18:43 Eversince wrote: Sorry just back in and only skim. I like Jock's reasoning so much. I said before I'd be willing to die but as pointed out we are MYLO so town can't afford it! Rayn/Eywa then?
From where I'm looking at it the probably mafia teams are rayn/eywa or ES/trfel i'm about 75% in favour of it being rayn/eywa right now.
VERY IMPORTANT MESSAGE TO ES/TRFEL
There's only six votes so it may well come down to who accumulates votes first.
Eywa hasn't voted yet
I think we should all three of us vote for rayn now. ES if we don't do this before eywa votes you are dead unless we can convince pandain to switch.
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I'm not saying we can't switch later, if new information demands it, but for now ES if I were you I would protect myself from a 3vs3 loss situation.
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I have a meeting in a few minutes at work for an hour and a half. I really think we need to consolidate now unless you want to die at end of day ES
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On July 05 2019 19:03 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On July 05 2019 18:12 Jockmcplop wrote:On July 05 2019 18:02 Trfel wrote:On July 05 2019 17:51 Jockmcplop wrote:On July 05 2019 17:49 Trfel wrote:Urghhh I'm starting to doubt if raynpelikoneet really is mafia  I guess it'll be good to see what he has to say about my case. I like the case okay but still have doubts  Blehhhhhh..... Why is this game so hard  It must be rayn OR ES though, right? One of these two is mafia. Assuming both of us are town, yes. Unfortunately, and especially after you tore me to pieces as mafia, that's not an assumption I can safely make just yet  I'll go through my logic just to make sure we're on the same page.... from your POV trfeleither one of rayn or es has to be mafia unless the mafia team is me and eywa I'm saying if eywa and I were the mafia team I would just lynch ES and the game is over as it is now. Therefore mafia can't be me and eywa. Therefore one of ES/rayn has to be mafia. Unless you think its eywa/me and we are trying to prolong the game for some reason. What a load of shit lol.
You want to tell me why?
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On July 05 2019 19:41 Eywa- wrote:Show nested quote +On July 05 2019 19:39 Eywa- wrote: So, truffles is only ever scum with ES, so he is never the target today. If Rayn is scum, there is still 1 scum among Jock / ES.
So we're always voting either Jock or ES today. So, if ES is town (which is doubtful), she knows that it's between me, Rayn and jockmcplop... She doesn't believe both scum targetted her d1 (wow... You're correct!).
But if I was scum with rayn why the fuck wouldn't i have just voted ES waited for the game to be over?
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On July 05 2019 19:42 Eywa- wrote: Basically, jockmcplop is near confirmed scum from town!es perspective... Sooo the sheeping of plop is all wack.
Answer my question above and you will see that this is wrong
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Are you trying to think of something? I know you're here. Answer the question!!!
If I'm scum with rayn WHY THE FUCK WOULD I NOT JUST VOTE FOR ES???
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Basically you're trying to make out that i'm confirmed scum JUST BECAUSE ES decided that you and rayn probably wouldn't vote together on day 1.
BUT
YOu and rayn votign together on day 1 is a million times more likely than me as mafia deciding not to bother ending the game today for NO FUCKING REASON AT ALL
Come on
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Eversince should be voting for me...
Eversince thinks eversince is town.
Why would she vote for someone who is trying to save town??? That's insane. Why would I be trying to save town if I was mafia??
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So unless eversince thinks eversince is mafia there's no reason to try and lynch the guy who's trying to save her ffs
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When at least one of the people trying to kill her must be mafia
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On July 05 2019 19:51 Eywa- wrote:Show nested quote +On July 05 2019 19:46 Jockmcplop wrote: Are you trying to think of something? I know you're here. Answer the question!!!
If I'm scum with rayn WHY THE FUCK WOULD I NOT JUST VOTE FOR ES??? Because hammer doesn't end the day.I also don't think it's the scum combo. I was explaining how your current wagon is coo coo for cocoa puffs.
Yeah but with me rayn and pand on ES unless one of them changes its the end of the game unless ES is mafia.
Who do you think is the scum combo?
Me and trfel? Me and ES?
Why do you think I'm mafia all of a sudden? None of what you're saying makes any sense at all.
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On July 05 2019 19:51 Eywa- wrote:Show nested quote +On July 05 2019 19:50 Jockmcplop wrote: Eversince should be voting for me...
Eversince thinks eversince is town.
Why would she vote for someone who is trying to save town??? That's insane. Why would I be trying to save town if I was mafia??
So you believe with near 100% certainty that it's me and Rayn?
NO
Its its either you/rayn or trfel/ES
Like I said before I'm about 75% in favour of it being you/rayn
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On July 05 2019 19:03 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On July 05 2019 18:12 Jockmcplop wrote:On July 05 2019 18:02 Trfel wrote:On July 05 2019 17:51 Jockmcplop wrote:On July 05 2019 17:49 Trfel wrote:Urghhh I'm starting to doubt if raynpelikoneet really is mafia  I guess it'll be good to see what he has to say about my case. I like the case okay but still have doubts  Blehhhhhh..... Why is this game so hard  It must be rayn OR ES though, right? One of these two is mafia. Assuming both of us are town, yes. Unfortunately, and especially after you tore me to pieces as mafia, that's not an assumption I can safely make just yet  I'll go through my logic just to make sure we're on the same page.... from your POV trfeleither one of rayn or es has to be mafia unless the mafia team is me and eywa I'm saying if eywa and I were the mafia team I would just lynch ES and the game is over as it is now. Therefore mafia can't be me and eywa. Therefore one of ES/rayn has to be mafia. Unless you think its eywa/me and we are trying to prolong the game for some reason. What a load of shit lol.
What I wrote is actually correct so unless you want to try and explain why not this kind of comment is just mafia.
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On July 05 2019 19:55 Eywa- wrote:Show nested quote +On July 05 2019 19:53 Jockmcplop wrote:On July 05 2019 19:51 Eywa- wrote:On July 05 2019 19:50 Jockmcplop wrote: Eversince should be voting for me...
Eversince thinks eversince is town.
Why would she vote for someone who is trying to save town??? That's insane. Why would I be trying to save town if I was mafia??
So you believe with near 100% certainty that it's me and Rayn? NO Its its either you/rayn or trfel/ES Like I said before I'm about 75% in favour of it being you/rayn Truffle is not scum with anyone other than ES, the day 1 hammer indicates that.
That's exactly what I said
scumteam possibility 1:
Rayn/Eywa -75%
Scumteam possibility 2
trfel/ES - 25%
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On July 05 2019 19:56 Eywa- wrote: So, I'd you and ES have the game solved, why aren't you both confident? Its mechanically solved if you town read each other.
I'm fairly confident.
I'm not 100% townreading ES..
This is exactly what I've been saying for a few pages.
That's why I was saying to truffles that 1 of rayn/ES is mafia. We need to work out which one, then the game is solved.
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On July 05 2019 19:58 Eywa- wrote:Show nested quote +On July 05 2019 19:56 Jockmcplop wrote:On July 05 2019 19:55 Eywa- wrote:On July 05 2019 19:53 Jockmcplop wrote:On July 05 2019 19:51 Eywa- wrote:On July 05 2019 19:50 Jockmcplop wrote: Eversince should be voting for me...
Eversince thinks eversince is town.
Why would she vote for someone who is trying to save town??? That's insane. Why would I be trying to save town if I was mafia??
So you believe with near 100% certainty that it's me and Rayn? NO Its its either you/rayn or trfel/ES Like I said before I'm about 75% in favour of it being you/rayn Truffle is not scum with anyone other than ES, the day 1 hammer indicates that. That's exactly what I said scumteam possibility 1: Rayn/Eywa -75% Scumteam possibility 2 trfel/ES - 25% Why can't it be Rayn + ES?
I'm pretty much ruling it out because of how the game has gone so far.
It could be, but I'm putting that down as being extremely unlikely.
This remote possibility is why we should vote into whichever of rayn/ES we decide is mafia.
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On July 05 2019 19:58 Eywa- wrote:Show nested quote +On July 05 2019 19:57 Jockmcplop wrote:On July 05 2019 19:56 Eywa- wrote: So, I'd you and ES have the game solved, why aren't you both confident? Its mechanically solved if you town read each other. I'm fairly confident. I'm not 100% townreading ES.. This is exactly what I've been saying for a few pages. That's why I was saying to truffles that 1 of rayn/ES is mafia. We need to work out which one, then the game is solved. But we agree the game is solved from ES PoV?
That's what I've been trying to say to ES.. Pretty much, unless there's an unlikely mafia team
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