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Pandain
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States12989 Posts
June 26 2019 08:11 GMT
#834
vig/lynched
Pandain
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States12989 Posts
June 26 2019 08:15 GMT
#836
Ok so if Shape is town, then how is game solved
Pandain
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States12989 Posts
June 26 2019 08:22 GMT
#840
Explain it in depth.

1. We Shoot Shape.
A. He's mafia. Great. Game not solved but we are likely to win.
b. He's Town. KSC is mafia and we lynch him. Game is solved here. Jock and I are confirmed town.

2. We Shoot KSC
a. He's Mafia. Game is solved here. Jock and I are confirmed town.
B. He's town. Shape is mafia. Great. Game not solved but we are likely to win.

Is this right or what am I missing.
Pandain
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States12989 Posts
June 26 2019 08:28 GMT
#844
I am also busy working. I will finish my assignment in an hour and post an analysis later.
Pandain
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States12989 Posts
June 26 2019 08:33 GMT
#846
I will post something, but can we assume for the purpose of analysis that we always shoot/lynch both of Kelsier and Shape?
Pandain
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States12989 Posts
June 26 2019 08:34 GMT
#847
well actually you would disagree with that since you think kelsier is town. i'll still post something.
Pandain
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States12989 Posts
June 26 2019 08:42 GMT
#851
I don't think you're completely right but I have a lot of work to do so I will just give a blanket approval because I think its the same thing in my eyes.
Pandain
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States12989 Posts
June 26 2019 09:03 GMT
#864
On June 26 2019 17:57 raynpelikoneet wrote:
jock you should just believe me when i say grack is not mafia. there is simply no possibility of him being mafia.


you also said exactly this last game and grack was mafia soooooooo

Quote: "Grack is the most townie guy in the whole thread"
Pandain
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States12989 Posts
June 26 2019 09:11 GMT
#866
Hf you are truly remarkable at finding a narrative and thus ignoring absolutely all possible counter explanations or evidences.
Pandain
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States12989 Posts
June 26 2019 09:17 GMT
#869
On June 26 2019 18:15 Jockmcplop wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 26 2019 18:02 Holyflare wrote:
I am not sold on trfel being town. The post about not knowing who to vote seemed honest which I liked but it always seems to be a struggle for him to post a read like he has to fabricate it. I don't know, just a gut feeling. Don't write him off just because he voted afk slam. I'll need to have a reread but don't expect much I'll be in handover meetings all day.


I just can't see him flat out killing a teammate with two other wagons available. Its not the correct play at all imo. Its vaguely possible but.... no.
If trfel and slam are both mafia, then at least one of kels/shapelog isn't and that gives him an out.


Also when I pushed him as to why he was voting him he basically said "I don't know." I feel like if he was bussing he would have approached that differently.
Pandain
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States12989 Posts
June 26 2019 09:38 GMT
#874
On June 26 2019 18:35 Holyflare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 26 2019 18:11 Pandain wrote:
Hf you are truly remarkable at finding a narrative and thus ignoring absolutely all possible counter explanations or evidences.


It's not particularly a narrative. I've found things in your filter that contradict what you are saying you thought and I'm just not acknowledging the inferior version that doesn't quite make sense that you're talking about after the fact.



This sentiment is exactly what you had last time with me.
I ended up being town.

I would address your points but (1) I already have and (2) I don't think you would even pay attention to them
Pandain
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States12989 Posts
June 26 2019 10:00 GMT
#876
I mean there's a very small chance Trfel is scum, but we are never lynching him before we go through people like Kelsier and shape first.
Pandain
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States12989 Posts
June 26 2019 10:12 GMT
#880
In my opinion, Eversince is practically confirmed town. Jock, Rayn, and Trefel are 98% town.

Grack and Ewya are null to slightly town.

Keslier and Shape are likely mafia.
Pandain
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States12989 Posts
June 26 2019 10:13 GMT
#881
Jock assuming there's no vig shot, would you want to lynch kelsier or shape first?
Pandain
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States12989 Posts
June 26 2019 10:17 GMT
#884
Rayn is assuming that Grack is town. Under that theory, there's no way that Kelsier and Shape are both mafia (because the last three mafia have to be within Ewya, Kelsier, and Shape, also assuming that Pandain and Jock are town).

If Grack is mafia, there's a non-zero chance that the last scum could be Eywa for instance.

Pandain
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States12989 Posts
June 26 2019 10:25 GMT
#886
Yeah I meant to say town.

Honestly the slam post on Eywa puts me against thinking he's scum, which is why I'm pretty certain there's at least one (if not both) scum between Kelsier and Shape.

What did you think about that post?
Pandain
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States12989 Posts
June 26 2019 10:27 GMT
#887
A big problem is that both Kelsier and Shape are AFK. I'm not sure what to read into that, if anything.
Pandain
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States12989 Posts
June 26 2019 12:04 GMT
#889
I'm upgrading Kels to a null-read and downgrading Shape to a slight scum read.

Also making Grack null.
Pandain
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States12989 Posts
June 26 2019 21:10 GMT
#979
Brilliant Grack.

It actually doesn't even matter if you got shot or not. What I didn't realize from your claim is that you're essentially town-confirmed (or at least you will be later on once all roles are claimed tomorrow or the day after). This is because we know for a fact there are three blue roles. Once three people claim and no others claim, we know the three are deifnitely town.
Pandain
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States12989 Posts
June 26 2019 21:11 GMT
#980
On June 27 2019 06:10 Holyflare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 27 2019 06:08 Eywa- wrote:
On June 27 2019 06:06 Holyflare wrote:
Just lynch pandain and then shapelog gets modkilled and we lynch koshi tomorrow.

I don't love a pandain lynch. As mafia, he should always bus or hammer another player. Do you consider him to be a bad player?


We're all friendly here and slam likes playing mafia. Bet the QT is like:


Slam: yeah I love playing mafia but I have to go for 2 days with no wifi please don't let me die

slam goes up for lynch

Pandain: damn don't want to make slam feel sad yo

lolol

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