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Pandain
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On June 26 2019 05:07 Eversince wrote: How? Grack as doc can't save himself. So wait for HF. Shoot Grack. Because Grack would protect HF. You want to get rid of confirmed town as soon as possible. And there's already suspicion on Grack, so it's useful keeping him alive. And his role is useless if you keep roleblocking him. So best solution: roleblock Grack, shoot HF | ||
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Pandain
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So if Grack is telling the truth, again, Mafia roleblocks Grack, shoots HF. If Grack is lying and is town, HF still likely gets shot because they roleblock Grack. Likely HF dies. If Grack is lying and is mafia, HF dies obviously. | ||
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Pandain
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On June 26 2019 05:17 Eversince wrote: My point was that Grack fakeclaim to draw kp away from HF. Maby in the hopes there is a doc. If Mafia has RB, they are always 100% RBing Grack and shooting HF. Therefore KP is not drawn away. They would never shoot Grack, because Grack is under suspicion and HF is a confirmed town. Mafia's main priority is to somehow get rid of HF. But if Grack is town, and was hoping another doctor would save him, then there is an extremely high chance that the other doctor counterclaims, thus causing one of the two to be lynched. So it's not smart to do this. | ||
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Pandain
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On June 26 2019 06:21 Eywa- wrote: Well, if Alakaslam flips scum. Eversince and trfel are town cleared because there was no reason to bus there. Are you also not caught up in this thread rofl. | ||
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Pandain
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I was pushing for KSC for a while. | ||
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Pandain
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I was certain that slam was town, and even if I voted SL it would still be a slam lynch. So i was trying to get you to vote rayn, where there was a small chance he was scum. | ||
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Pandain
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On June 26 2019 06:57 Eversince wrote: Why vote Rayn though? There wasn't a reason and still isn't. 5% chance (rayn) is better than 0% chance (slam) And imo Slam was even worse than a regular town lynch, because we would have gotten no information out of a slam lynch if he was town. | ||
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Pandain
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On June 26 2019 06:58 Holyflare wrote: Can you outline where this was the case? All I've found in reference to Kelsier near deadline is that you told Jock that Kelsier would be a good vig shot? Where do you feel like you've pushed Kelsier and have been active doing so in comparison to your vigour at deadline for slam? I just re-read my filter and I misremembered things, but it still completely shows I was active the whole day. First I pushed Kelsier. Then I was pushing Grack very heavily. Then at the end Grack had no traction so I switched back to KSC. When Slam was up for lynch I tried to stop it of course. But it's not the only time I was active. | ||
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Pandain
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If I rescind my Grack scum read, that leads me to believe that SL and Kelsier must be scum. Which would mean the top three lynches were all....scum. With all three scum inactive at the end. That's impossible, right? | ||
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Pandain
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On June 26 2019 13:54 raynpelikoneet wrote: Maybe Pandain can make a big post to explain why Slam was so town that he'd rather lynch his 95% townread over him. I just didn't like the votes. If scum had had even two people active near EoD they would have been able to lead a lynch off him with the votes this close. It's obvious now mafia was just extremely inactive and there was likely only one scum active, if at all. | ||
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Pandain
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On June 26 2019 15:24 raynpelikoneet wrote: Another thing that bugs me about Pandain is that he still, after lynch, calls Grackaroni scum but Grack was one of the few people he tried to get on board onto another lynch. Like in what fucking world does pandain have more than 0% chance of convincing scum!grack to do what he wants if it's to switch from town to mafia? idk, maybe it's too insane to be scum, difinitely doesn't make any sense in any world. Yeah I think he's scum but it's not conclusive. Maybe 60-65% chance. Decent chance he's town and helps me lynch another scum read. Anyway I think I changed my mind on grack. | ||
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Pandain
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On June 26 2019 15:50 raynpelikoneet wrote: Like literally, how is it better if let's say you, hf and grack vote for me and i flip town than if slam had flipped town? Because Slam was completely AFK. And no one even posted anything regarding him, so it would not benefit town at all It would basically be like RNGing someone at the start of the day to die. At least you might be able to get some associative reads from your death. And again, in my mind Slam was nearly certain town. You are probably town. There's a big difference. I will always choose to lynch a "probable town" over a "near-certain" town, all other things held equal. | ||
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Pandain
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On June 26 2019 15:58 raynpelikoneet wrote: you too, what the fuck do you gain in regards of information in case i flip town? Dude I don't fucking know I didn't want to lynch you at all I never looked into it. But obviously you are active and I know people have made comments on you (jock,eversince, at the very least). there's at least something there. you were not even a person i wanted to flip | ||
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Pandain
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i would always try to lynch someone other than slam in that case | ||
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Pandain
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On June 26 2019 16:00 raynpelikoneet wrote: it was very clear i was at some point. it's very clear you were... what? | ||
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Pandain
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On June 26 2019 04:12 Fecalfeast wrote: vote count day 1 Alakaslam: (3) eversince, holyflare, Trfel Shapelog: (2) raynpelikoneet, Eversince: (0) KelsierSC: (2) Grackaroni: (0) Raynpelikoneet: (1) Pandain: (0) Not Voting: Alakaslam Shapelog KelsierSC Strong town reads on Rayn and Jock. That leads the last four possible scum to be Grack, Eywa, Shape, and Kelsier. I'm going to move Grack to town because besides that god-awful claim he's been pretty towny. Slam made a post on Eywa after he died that I don't think he would have made if Eywa was mafia. On June 26 2019 06:08 Alakaslam wrote: Mindmeld eywa a little. Was early at this point though. Even though its guarded in conditioners, I don't think Slam picks a mafia post to just +1 to. So that leaves Shape and Kelsier. I'm going to say that all of Slam, Shape, and Kelsier were all mafia and that ironically we were always going to lynch mafia. | ||
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Pandain
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On June 26 2019 16:03 raynpelikoneet wrote: a person you wanted to flip Objectively not true, I was defending you against HF and Eywa. I'll just repeat it one last time. I had a strong town read on you. I had a near-certain town read on Slam. Slam was AFK and could have no associative tales, you were active and had many people interacting with you. Your death would be more meaningful. With one minute to go I tried to change the lynch to you because it was better than Slam. If you don't believe this, that's okay. I get that it's suspicious, it's why I have half a mind to just sort of AFK and let myself die. Honestly if I was you guys I would always 100% lynch me. On June 26 2019 16:06 Eversince wrote: I got around 45 minutes before dealine. Just died trying to figure out for sure where my vote should go. You toss Rayn vote out because "any other option is better"?! I pushed Kelsier. I pushed Grack. I pushed them hard. Rayn was not a lynch I wanted, it was something desperate I tried to do literally (literally!) last minute because I was near-certain Slam was town and yes, in that case, any other option is better. | ||
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