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Eversince
Profile Joined October 2015
Philippines2301 Posts
June 25 2019 02:02 GMT
#301
Ok, Trtfel is ok! Shapelog case by Rayn seemed good to me. Holyflare being disconnected is completely annoying but he is confirmed. Grack is usual. Pandain is best lynch 2019. Jock is ok.

I still think Kels feels off. Better but off. Slam has been totes useless. Ewya still is fishy to me.

So Pandain, Shapelog, Ewya. Thought?
Life's too short to be black and white. Make the world tie-dye!
Eversince
Profile Joined October 2015
Philippines2301 Posts
June 25 2019 02:03 GMT
#302
Or Slam, seems ok.
Life's too short to be black and white. Make the world tie-dye!
Eversince
Profile Joined October 2015
Philippines2301 Posts
June 25 2019 02:31 GMT
#303
Anyone about?
Life's too short to be black and white. Make the world tie-dye!
Eversince
Profile Joined October 2015
Philippines2301 Posts
June 25 2019 03:11 GMT
#304
Ok, suppose not. I will nap then. Be back in 2-4 hr.
Life's too short to be black and white. Make the world tie-dye!
Alakaslam
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States17336 Posts
June 25 2019 04:26 GMT
#305
I will not have access to net again until tomorrow at about 2

But whatever I will read and catch up then
If you think Elon Musk is a Nazi, it is because YOU radicalized him!
Jockmcplop
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United Kingdom9607 Posts
June 25 2019 06:21 GMT
#306
On June 25 2019 10:09 Trfel wrote:
Jockmcplop, why were you reading my filter, of all people's (post #196)? Just before (post #191), you kinda said that I was your strongest townread. I'm just not sure I follow.

Kinda feels like he's keeping his reads open, lots of soft pushes. Like his soft suspicion on Shapelog (not gonna vote him now but I could vote for him later), and his read on me (Trfel) (post 198). Admittedly the latter is one of my habits, but along with the lack of townreads, it just feels like he is really, really keeping his options open.


I was reading your filter because this is mafia dude. That's kind of a thing you can do to look at someone's posting. Why yours specifically? I have looked at most people's filter at some point so far.
Honestly I don't really have strong reads at all right now. I suck at day 1. Always have. In a way, I guess I am keeping my options open. Literally anyone except myself and hf could be mafia right now, and no-one's done a particularly great job of confirming themselves as town.
RIP Meatloaf <3
Jockmcplop
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United Kingdom9607 Posts
June 25 2019 06:27 GMT
#307
I am starting to think that grack's a good lynch though.

His reads so far have followed thread sentiment exactly to the letter and the fact that you could easily interpret his last interaction with hf as trying to discredit the innocent child - which has clear mafia motivation.

##vote grackaroni
RIP Meatloaf <3
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
June 25 2019 07:15 GMT
#308
We should be voting anyone that claims doctor day 1.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
June 25 2019 07:16 GMT
#309
Especially when there isn't one.
Jockmcplop
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United Kingdom9607 Posts
June 25 2019 07:16 GMT
#310
On June 25 2019 16:15 Holyflare wrote:
We should be voting anyone that claims doctor day 1.


I haven't seen anyone claiming doctor.
RIP Meatloaf <3
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
June 25 2019 07:19 GMT
#311
On June 25 2019 09:01 Grackaroni wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 25 2019 08:21 Holyflare wrote:
I think you're fairly obviously mafia at this point

Bet it sucks I was confirmed of all people lol.

I did have a sense that you being confirmed would be bad for town, yes.

To go full shitter mode, I'm the doctor, and I won't be healing you. Sure does suck that you got confirmed though.


Imagine claiming doctor while calling the confirmed town a shitter lol. Doesn't make any sense at all.
Jockmcplop
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United Kingdom9607 Posts
June 25 2019 07:19 GMT
#312
On June 25 2019 16:19 Holyflare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 25 2019 09:01 Grackaroni wrote:
On June 25 2019 08:21 Holyflare wrote:
I think you're fairly obviously mafia at this point

Bet it sucks I was confirmed of all people lol.

I did have a sense that you being confirmed would be bad for town, yes.

To go full shitter mode, I'm the doctor, and I won't be healing you. Sure does suck that you got confirmed though.


Imagine claiming doctor while calling the confirmed town a shitter lol. Doesn't make any sense at all.


Oh shit how did I miss that? haha.
Yeah I'm happy with my vote on grack tbh.
RIP Meatloaf <3
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9846 Posts
June 25 2019 07:22 GMT
#313
I'm happy with my claim tbh.

If town is dumb enough to kill me during the day rather than wait for me to get killed in the night than that's all the better.

Being confirmed town through a mod-announcement doesn't prevent you from being a shitter. And I'm pretty obviously town too so that's all the better.
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9846 Posts
June 25 2019 07:37 GMT
#314
Feel free to look for my buddies though.

I recommend looking at Shapelog. I could be bussing him.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
June 25 2019 07:48 GMT
#315
I'll explain why rayn is mafia based on just this one post. My comments are in red.

On June 25 2019 01:29 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I am gonna try to explain my read on Kelsier. I'd normally most likely not care about it atm but since we're 8vs3 i think i actually need to cut everything that i feel like is bullshit out of the thread so we can actually find mafia.

What bullshit cutting does he need to achieve? Nothing I would consider bullshit is happening and especially nothing that deserves defending Kelsier from suspicion early day 1. This is very disconnected from what is actually happening in the thread and is very typical of someone just trying to look good through bravado of hooray I'm here to save the day


Here is Kelsier's firt real post in the game.
Show nested quote +
On June 24 2019 05:00 KelsierSC wrote:
On June 24 2019 04:55 Trfel wrote:
@Shapelog, what are you cooking?

Currently I think Grackaroni is the best shot at being mafia. He didn't interact at all with anyone and just vanished from the thread, and it doesn't really make sense for him to be scared of an innocent child... unless he's mafia. I know it's not very strong but it's the best I see, anyone have any similar or different ideas?


Gracks entrance post/joke didn't mean anything. Did you expect someone to tell you otherwise?

noticeable things so far is that Shapelog says the same thing and this is a post that is correct and doesn't make Grackaroni mafia. This is a noticeable thing for Rayn to mention. Why does it make Kelsier town that he picks up on ONE person doing something but not the other? Hint: It doesn't make him town, or at least, it's not a townie thing to do. Why does being correct mean anything when people most likely to be correct are the people with the most information? Mafia. This post is ONLY noticeable if you are calling Kelsier mafia, it does not belong in this case that Rayn is trying to make, that Kelsier is town.

this is the follow up:
Show nested quote +
On June 24 2019 05:23 KelsierSC wrote:
Alright this hasn't really heated up, Sunday evening start so it's to be expected. Going to take off and get some sleep. I'll try and check in a few times each day depending on my availability.

Trfel's post is the worst thing so far I can't decide if it's someone trying to get the game going or if he's just nervous and is uncomfortable sitting quietly in the thread.

I don't know anything about Eversince. If i'm honest it does feel a bit too nice but maybe he is just a good person. That being said, He does like HF so how can you trust him.

this actually makes sense in case he is mafia, i agree. But so far, at this point my read on him is that he is trying to get the game going and not pulling any shit. I obviously disagree with his read on Trfel here but i don't think it makes him mafia.

Again, would you think this is a town case on Kelsier? Wtf. It's just a narrative saying he disagrees with his read and Rayn has COMPLETELY forgotten anything about shapelog doing EXACTLY the same thing but Kelsier not saying a word about shapelog. Why even mention it above if it plays absolutely no relevance to your further read? This just highlights how much of a pointless narrative this entire post is and there's no critical thinking in it. What are we supposed to think here? That this post can highlight that maybe Trfel is mafia OR town? Great Kelsier post? No, not really, it's wishy washy and says absolutely nothing about BOTH eversince and Trfel. Classically mafia post.

Eversince claims Grack is irritating after this.

Pandain expresses some feelings i ahve no idea what that means on Grackaroni. At least Pandain has noticed the thing on Grack imo. What have these 2 lines got to do with Kelsier at all????

Me, Trfel and ES discuss Eywa. Holyflare comes in and accuses Grackaroni. Jock makes his comment about Grack. Now i think this is the kicker post:
Show nested quote +
On June 24 2019 16:28 KelsierSC wrote:
Morning Everyone,

Liked the discussion between rayn and trefl regarding eywa's reads. That's bumped trefl up. The scum reads seem off to me and need more explanation. I don't like ES particularly, but pandain is just one low content poster in a game of low content posters. ShapeLog town read also needs more explanation.

I don't like Jocks entrance. His first comment is he has nothing to add and things are uneventful. But as soon as HF throws out a name he jumps on it trying to bury Grack.

The red part makes perfectly sense in case Kelsier is mafia (unless mafia with Eywa -- lets assume here that Trfel is town). The green part however doesn't make any sense at all in comparison to the red one since he is letting one guy off the hook for doing the wrong thing (accusing Grack) and changing the subject to another guy. I don't think that's a mafia thing to do because i think the mafia thing to do is to let Trfel and Jock be town for now and join the accusation, accuse them both, or act like you dont know where your head is at because you are now confused especially since HF jumped in. I think all of those outcomes are better than what Kelsier did and i don't think what he did makes any sense from mafia perspective.

The red part makes perfect sense if Kelsier is mafia............ ah can totally see how this is a town case on Kelsier........ We also just have to assume he might also not be mafia with Eywa and that Trfel is also town. Like 3 leaps of logic for absolutely no reason here? Kelsier arbitrarily dismisses people for being low content poster (pandain) in a game of low content posters but literally doesn't highlight anyone else in the game and dismisses them in the same way, that looks really, really bad.

The green bit making Kelsier town... wtf? It doesn't make sense for a mafia Kelsier to drop his read on Trfel for an OPENING post that he said COULD make him someone who wants to push the game forward OR nervous mafia (not even a real scum read) to then pick up on Jock for scum reading Grack? Why does that not make sense? His old read was well past its expiry date, he could easily see motivation to sheep onto a train that big name rayn is pushing and thus say he's liking everything everyone is agreeing with and then move onto someone else that can't really fight back as much. Very, very easy thing for mafia to do. Does not make sense to town read for this at all, especially if you have any idea how mafia think when they are mafia, which Rayn should do in abundance.



None of these things highlight why Kelsier is town, none at all. In fact, if anything, it looks like Rayn should be absolutely scum reading Kelsier. This is just one example of a narrative that Rayn is trying to push that doesn't make sense when you actually get down to it.

I read the beginnings of his shapelog case too. It's literally that he thinks shapelog should have more content in a first post based on some previous game he played with shapelog and that he'd think shapelog's accusation would have more reasoning behind it. Not a stellar read, there's loads of stretches of imagination for it.
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9846 Posts
June 25 2019 08:16 GMT
#316
Meh now I have to awkwardly backtrack because you made a good post.

This part is especially true:
"Great Kelsier post? No, not really, it's wishy washy and says absolutely nothing about BOTH eversince and Trfel. Classically mafia post"

And I don't think there's reason to think that Kelsier would be more likely to jump on my bandwagon than attack a bandwagoner.

As for the Rayn Shapelog case, I'd note that there were 2-3 people that said they agree with Rayn's Shapelog case when it was pretty incomprehensible. I think those people are more likely mafia than Rayn who probably believes the case that he's pushing. Plus I'm annoyed because I think I gave much clearer points for why Shapelog could be mafia.

You're still a baddie for voting me though when I'm obv town -- even in the case where Rayn is mafia.
Jockmcplop
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United Kingdom9607 Posts
June 25 2019 08:19 GMT
#317
What makes you obvtown grack?
RIP Meatloaf <3
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9846 Posts
June 25 2019 08:21 GMT
#318
On June 25 2019 17:19 Jockmcplop wrote:
What makes you obvtown grack?

My attitude this game would never happen as mafia.

I kind of have a history of throwing fits as blue though LOL.

Plus I've made good attempts at engaging people and solving the game, especially with Rayn.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
June 25 2019 08:31 GMT
#319
If shapelog is mafia, it's with kelsier.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
June 25 2019 08:42 GMT
#320
Which is why it's incredibly weird of rayn to point out all of these weird things with kelsier in regards to shape and not putting it together.
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