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On May 22 2019 19:23 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Calix and VE liking the BC case and then never actually moving their vote when they didn't seem convinced by the leading wagons makes my boner to lynch all of them that much harder.
K but why do you have Koshi and WBG in the wrong place? Koshi also scum-read BC but didn't bother moving his vote when iGrok [town-read] was the leading train to make BC [someone he at least scum-reads] a viable wagon, choosing instead to stay on me after it became really unlikely I would die. Fail to see how you read his near-EOD posts and conclude 'town'.
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Also if you think VE and I are mafia then shouldn't iGrok be higher up on your list since VE and I both voted for him over BC?
Don't really get your reads.
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So you think 'no one was really sure who they wanted to lynch' - which sounds like a bunch of uninformed townies struggling to decide on a lynch - yet conclude that 2/4-5 people at EOD who fit this description are...mafia? Wouldn't we, I dunno, have wanted to lynch iGrok to save our mafia buddy BC who could've been lynched?
Obviously hypothetical but I don't think your theory makes sense and it's not just cos I'm in it.
Personally I thought EOD felt pretty clean myself.
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On May 22 2019 20:02 Artanis[Xp] wrote:Show nested quote +On May 22 2019 19:43 Calix wrote:
So you think 'no one was really sure who they wanted to lynch' - which sounds like a bunch of uninformed townies struggling to decide on a lynch - yet conclude that 2/4-5 people at EOD who fit this description are...mafia? Wouldn't we, I dunno, have wanted to lynch iGrok to save our mafia buddy BC who could've been lynched?
Obviously hypothetical but I don't think your theory makes sense and it's not just cos I'm in it.
Personally I thought EOD felt pretty clean myself. I read it as trying to find a lynch without being the one to hard push for it. iGrok wasn't particularly strongly pushed by anyone, even HF. With the alternative lynch being yourself, there weren't many good options until WBG started pushing RuX. However, it doesn't make that much sense for VE as he'd already had a scumread on iGrok from the start. It wouldn't be hard for him to explain switching to iGrok. I still don't understand why he didn't press BC harder when he started feeling suspicious on him though. As for yourself, you had already positioned against lynching iGrok in the past and were clearly on the fence between him and BC, but you never interact with BC in any meaningful way. Also, there's this: Show nested quote +On May 22 2019 07:05 Calix wrote:
Hey Koshi, you'd literally be more helpful if you shut the fuck up and vote for BC instead. Since I'm probably not getting lynched at this point. And you'd actually be voting for mafia then. Whilst not voting for BC yourself. It doesn't feel like you actually want to lynch BC which doesn't line up to me with how your read progression went when it was becoming clear Rayn wasn't an option today.
If you saw those posts, you also must've seen that I said 'I think both BC and iGrok are mafia' and that I wasn't too fussed about which one of them died. The reason I voted for iGrok over BC is because VE asked and it got a leading wagon.
Obviously from that perspective, getting Koshi to vote for BC is better than having him leave his vote on me because then two scum-reads are wagons.
So your post doesn't make sense with that in mind.
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Also can someone tell me why iGrok decides to vote for HF at EOD? Earlier he justified his vote on me partly because 'HF my top scum read isn't getting lynched' but then he leaves a lone vote on HF despite literally nobody wanting to lynch him at EOD. No way he could've thought HF was going to die when nobody had mentioned him.
It's even worse because this was when I was a wagon? [because he apparently scum-reads me again but not really, who the fuck even understood that part of the chat]
It looks horrible.
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On May 22 2019 20:31 disformation wrote:Show nested quote +On May 22 2019 20:16 Calix wrote:
Also can someone tell me why iGrok decides to vote for HF at EOD? Earlier he justified his vote on me partly because 'HF my top scum read isn't getting lynched' but then he leaves a lone vote on HF despite literally nobody wanting to lynch him at EOD. No way he could've thought HF was going to die when nobody had mentioned him.
It's even worse because this was when I was a wagon? [because he apparently scum-reads me again but not really, who the fuck even understood that part of the chat]
It looks horrible. oh he is going for a logic attempt. let me try to translate and see if it makes sense: Show nested quote +On May 22 2019 10:16 iGrok wrote:
[...]
So if at least one of calix and ruxx are town, that means that HF has to be scum. Show nested quote +On May 22 2019 10:21 iGrok wrote:
Seriously, I think the logic there is pretty straightforward, but to reiterate:
Calix and Ruxx are not both mafia, because mafia would not bus a teammate when the votes are close like this.
Ruxx and HF aren't both mafia because Ruxxar called HF on some shit that most other people didn't, it was a weird attack when HF was not seeing any real pressure.
Calix and HF aren't both mafia because HF looked like he was trying to set up a wagon on Calix earlier.
so what this means is:
If you think that any one of HF, Calix, or Ruxx are mafia, it has to be HF
Show nested quote +On May 22 2019 10:41 iGrok wrote:
Lol, Calix and HF on "INDEPENDENT TERMS" are red.
The weakest of those assertions is the Calix/HF one, because HF switched off calix fairly quickly. Why you're attacking the ruxx/hf assertion doesn't make sense. In your words, "Come the fuck on".
Ruxxar's filter is filled with brief periods of activity which go like this: "I'm back, here's a quick summary, some filler posts, bye". H's acting like a dude who doesn't have a whole lot of time to put into writing up stuff, but he is clearly reading based on his quotes in his posts. Not everyone spams like You, HF, Koshi, or VE. Show nested quote +On May 22 2019 10:56 iGrok wrote:
C OR R==TOWN
C OR H==TOWN
H OR R==TOWN
R != H
C AND H AND R==MAFIA
Forgot that part read: one of calix, ruxxar is town one of calix, hf is town one of ruxxar, hf is town ruxxar has a different alignment from hf one of ruxxar, hf, calix scum so he is basically saying "all 3 of them look super scummy to me, but it makes no sense for them to be a team, so lemme look for the one that is most likely scum and afk my vote there"
Fair play on the whole 'they're not on a team so clearly I fucked up somewhere' part.
But if he thinks there's mafia between HF and myself then it still makes more sense to just re-vote me since I actually had votes and if I'm mafia then great, if I'm town then HF is scum, etc. Especially since he thinks one of us is scum still.
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On May 22 2019 20:38 disformation wrote:Show nested quote +On May 22 2019 20:37 Calix wrote:On May 22 2019 20:31 disformation wrote:On May 22 2019 20:16 Calix wrote:
Also can someone tell me why iGrok decides to vote for HF at EOD? Earlier he justified his vote on me partly because 'HF my top scum read isn't getting lynched' but then he leaves a lone vote on HF despite literally nobody wanting to lynch him at EOD. No way he could've thought HF was going to die when nobody had mentioned him.
It's even worse because this was when I was a wagon? [because he apparently scum-reads me again but not really, who the fuck even understood that part of the chat]
It looks horrible. oh he is going for a logic attempt. let me try to translate and see if it makes sense: On May 22 2019 10:16 iGrok wrote:
[...]
So if at least one of calix and ruxx are town, that means that HF has to be scum. On May 22 2019 10:21 iGrok wrote:
Seriously, I think the logic there is pretty straightforward, but to reiterate:
Calix and Ruxx are not both mafia, because mafia would not bus a teammate when the votes are close like this.
Ruxx and HF aren't both mafia because Ruxxar called HF on some shit that most other people didn't, it was a weird attack when HF was not seeing any real pressure.
Calix and HF aren't both mafia because HF looked like he was trying to set up a wagon on Calix earlier.
so what this means is:
If you think that any one of HF, Calix, or Ruxx are mafia, it has to be HF
On May 22 2019 10:41 iGrok wrote:
Lol, Calix and HF on "INDEPENDENT TERMS" are red.
The weakest of those assertions is the Calix/HF one, because HF switched off calix fairly quickly. Why you're attacking the ruxx/hf assertion doesn't make sense. In your words, "Come the fuck on".
Ruxxar's filter is filled with brief periods of activity which go like this: "I'm back, here's a quick summary, some filler posts, bye". H's acting like a dude who doesn't have a whole lot of time to put into writing up stuff, but he is clearly reading based on his quotes in his posts. Not everyone spams like You, HF, Koshi, or VE. On May 22 2019 10:56 iGrok wrote:
C OR R==TOWN
C OR H==TOWN
H OR R==TOWN
R != H
C AND H AND R==MAFIA
Forgot that part read: one of calix, ruxxar is town one of calix, hf is town one of ruxxar, hf is town ruxxar has a different alignment from hf one of ruxxar, hf, calix scum so he is basically saying "all 3 of them look super scummy to me, but it makes no sense for them to be a team, so lemme look for the one that is most likely scum and afk my vote there" Fair play on the whole 'they're not on a team so clearly I fucked up somewhere' part. But if he thinks there's mafia between HF and myself then it still makes more sense to just re-vote me since I actually had votes and if I'm mafia then great, if I'm town then HF is scum, etc. Especially since he thinks one of us is scum still. yeah. the progression or read kinda makes sense if you think from his pov. but i also agree with you that i am not a fan of him parking the vote again on hf, after earlier being like "cant get him lynched anyways". but then i dont think anyone was in thread, so it prolly didnt super matter anyways?
Whether it 'mattered or not' isn't really the point though.
As for your Artanis thing, is forgetting to include a name in a basic reads list that has no reasoning attached actually scummy?
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On May 22 2019 20:43 Koshi wrote:Show nested quote +On May 22 2019 20:41 Calix wrote:On May 22 2019 20:38 disformation wrote:On May 22 2019 20:37 Calix wrote:On May 22 2019 20:31 disformation wrote:On May 22 2019 20:16 Calix wrote:
Also can someone tell me why iGrok decides to vote for HF at EOD? Earlier he justified his vote on me partly because 'HF my top scum read isn't getting lynched' but then he leaves a lone vote on HF despite literally nobody wanting to lynch him at EOD. No way he could've thought HF was going to die when nobody had mentioned him.
It's even worse because this was when I was a wagon? [because he apparently scum-reads me again but not really, who the fuck even understood that part of the chat]
It looks horrible. oh he is going for a logic attempt. let me try to translate and see if it makes sense: On May 22 2019 10:16 iGrok wrote:
[...]
So if at least one of calix and ruxx are town, that means that HF has to be scum. On May 22 2019 10:21 iGrok wrote:
Seriously, I think the logic there is pretty straightforward, but to reiterate:
Calix and Ruxx are not both mafia, because mafia would not bus a teammate when the votes are close like this.
Ruxx and HF aren't both mafia because Ruxxar called HF on some shit that most other people didn't, it was a weird attack when HF was not seeing any real pressure.
Calix and HF aren't both mafia because HF looked like he was trying to set up a wagon on Calix earlier.
so what this means is:
If you think that any one of HF, Calix, or Ruxx are mafia, it has to be HF
On May 22 2019 10:41 iGrok wrote:
Lol, Calix and HF on "INDEPENDENT TERMS" are red.
The weakest of those assertions is the Calix/HF one, because HF switched off calix fairly quickly. Why you're attacking the ruxx/hf assertion doesn't make sense. In your words, "Come the fuck on".
Ruxxar's filter is filled with brief periods of activity which go like this: "I'm back, here's a quick summary, some filler posts, bye". H's acting like a dude who doesn't have a whole lot of time to put into writing up stuff, but he is clearly reading based on his quotes in his posts. Not everyone spams like You, HF, Koshi, or VE. On May 22 2019 10:56 iGrok wrote:
C OR R==TOWN
C OR H==TOWN
H OR R==TOWN
R != H
C AND H AND R==MAFIA
Forgot that part read: one of calix, ruxxar is town one of calix, hf is town one of ruxxar, hf is town ruxxar has a different alignment from hf one of ruxxar, hf, calix scum so he is basically saying "all 3 of them look super scummy to me, but it makes no sense for them to be a team, so lemme look for the one that is most likely scum and afk my vote there" Fair play on the whole 'they're not on a team so clearly I fucked up somewhere' part. But if he thinks there's mafia between HF and myself then it still makes more sense to just re-vote me since I actually had votes and if I'm mafia then great, if I'm town then HF is scum, etc. Especially since he thinks one of us is scum still. yeah. the progression or read kinda makes sense if you think from his pov. but i also agree with you that i am not a fan of him parking the vote again on hf, after earlier being like "cant get him lynched anyways". but then i dont think anyone was in thread, so it prolly didnt super matter anyways? Whether it 'mattered or not' isn't really the point though. As for your Artanis thing, is forgetting to include a name in a basic reads list that has no reasoning attached actually scummy? *Insert random question that pretend shows I am scumhunting but instead shows I am not thinking about the game myself and really dislike to analyse situations and make conclusions about them. Not to speak of forcing my conclusions on the thread like every fucking townie does from time to time*
Could you actually fuck off? I am trying to play the game and you keep harassing me and yelling at people who 'talk to me like I am a person' as if I am somehow undeserving of that. It's rude and starting to get to me on a personal level.
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On May 22 2019 20:50 wherebugsgo wrote:Show nested quote +On May 22 2019 20:45 Calix wrote:On May 22 2019 20:43 Koshi wrote:On May 22 2019 20:41 Calix wrote:On May 22 2019 20:38 disformation wrote:On May 22 2019 20:37 Calix wrote:On May 22 2019 20:31 disformation wrote:On May 22 2019 20:16 Calix wrote:
Also can someone tell me why iGrok decides to vote for HF at EOD? Earlier he justified his vote on me partly because 'HF my top scum read isn't getting lynched' but then he leaves a lone vote on HF despite literally nobody wanting to lynch him at EOD. No way he could've thought HF was going to die when nobody had mentioned him.
It's even worse because this was when I was a wagon? [because he apparently scum-reads me again but not really, who the fuck even understood that part of the chat]
It looks horrible. oh he is going for a logic attempt. let me try to translate and see if it makes sense: On May 22 2019 10:16 iGrok wrote:
[...]
So if at least one of calix and ruxx are town, that means that HF has to be scum. On May 22 2019 10:21 iGrok wrote:
Seriously, I think the logic there is pretty straightforward, but to reiterate:
Calix and Ruxx are not both mafia, because mafia would not bus a teammate when the votes are close like this.
Ruxx and HF aren't both mafia because Ruxxar called HF on some shit that most other people didn't, it was a weird attack when HF was not seeing any real pressure.
Calix and HF aren't both mafia because HF looked like he was trying to set up a wagon on Calix earlier.
so what this means is:
If you think that any one of HF, Calix, or Ruxx are mafia, it has to be HF
On May 22 2019 10:41 iGrok wrote:
Lol, Calix and HF on "INDEPENDENT TERMS" are red.
The weakest of those assertions is the Calix/HF one, because HF switched off calix fairly quickly. Why you're attacking the ruxx/hf assertion doesn't make sense. In your words, "Come the fuck on".
Ruxxar's filter is filled with brief periods of activity which go like this: "I'm back, here's a quick summary, some filler posts, bye". H's acting like a dude who doesn't have a whole lot of time to put into writing up stuff, but he is clearly reading based on his quotes in his posts. Not everyone spams like You, HF, Koshi, or VE. On May 22 2019 10:56 iGrok wrote:
C OR R==TOWN
C OR H==TOWN
H OR R==TOWN
R != H
C AND H AND R==MAFIA
Forgot that part read: one of calix, ruxxar is town one of calix, hf is town one of ruxxar, hf is town ruxxar has a different alignment from hf one of ruxxar, hf, calix scum so he is basically saying "all 3 of them look super scummy to me, but it makes no sense for them to be a team, so lemme look for the one that is most likely scum and afk my vote there" Fair play on the whole 'they're not on a team so clearly I fucked up somewhere' part. But if he thinks there's mafia between HF and myself then it still makes more sense to just re-vote me since I actually had votes and if I'm mafia then great, if I'm town then HF is scum, etc. Especially since he thinks one of us is scum still. yeah. the progression or read kinda makes sense if you think from his pov. but i also agree with you that i am not a fan of him parking the vote again on hf, after earlier being like "cant get him lynched anyways". but then i dont think anyone was in thread, so it prolly didnt super matter anyways? Whether it 'mattered or not' isn't really the point though. As for your Artanis thing, is forgetting to include a name in a basic reads list that has no reasoning attached actually scummy? *Insert random question that pretend shows I am scumhunting but instead shows I am not thinking about the game myself and really dislike to analyse situations and make conclusions about them. Not to speak of forcing my conclusions on the thread like every fucking townie does from time to time* Could you actually fuck off? I am trying to play the game and you keep harassing me and yelling at people who 'talk to me like I am a person' as if I am somehow undeserving of that. It's rude and starting to get to me on a personal level. I have a question for you Calix Since you've played a couple games as town against Koshi now, did you ever manage to catch him in those two previous games? Did he play like this in either of those two ones? How about the opposite, when you were scum vs his town?
Uh, I think I got lynched D1 in the scum game. And I don't think I've ever 'caught' him as town until after I was dead, lol.
So my record of reading Koshi is, on the whole, not great.
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On May 22 2019 20:54 wherebugsgo wrote:Show nested quote +On May 22 2019 20:51 Calix wrote:On May 22 2019 20:50 wherebugsgo wrote:On May 22 2019 20:45 Calix wrote:On May 22 2019 20:43 Koshi wrote:On May 22 2019 20:41 Calix wrote:On May 22 2019 20:38 disformation wrote:On May 22 2019 20:37 Calix wrote:On May 22 2019 20:31 disformation wrote:On May 22 2019 20:16 Calix wrote:
Also can someone tell me why iGrok decides to vote for HF at EOD? Earlier he justified his vote on me partly because 'HF my top scum read isn't getting lynched' but then he leaves a lone vote on HF despite literally nobody wanting to lynch him at EOD. No way he could've thought HF was going to die when nobody had mentioned him.
It's even worse because this was when I was a wagon? [because he apparently scum-reads me again but not really, who the fuck even understood that part of the chat]
It looks horrible. oh he is going for a logic attempt. let me try to translate and see if it makes sense: On May 22 2019 10:16 iGrok wrote:
[...]
So if at least one of calix and ruxx are town, that means that HF has to be scum. On May 22 2019 10:21 iGrok wrote:
Seriously, I think the logic there is pretty straightforward, but to reiterate:
Calix and Ruxx are not both mafia, because mafia would not bus a teammate when the votes are close like this.
Ruxx and HF aren't both mafia because Ruxxar called HF on some shit that most other people didn't, it was a weird attack when HF was not seeing any real pressure.
Calix and HF aren't both mafia because HF looked like he was trying to set up a wagon on Calix earlier.
so what this means is:
If you think that any one of HF, Calix, or Ruxx are mafia, it has to be HF
On May 22 2019 10:41 iGrok wrote:
Lol, Calix and HF on "INDEPENDENT TERMS" are red.
The weakest of those assertions is the Calix/HF one, because HF switched off calix fairly quickly. Why you're attacking the ruxx/hf assertion doesn't make sense. In your words, "Come the fuck on".
Ruxxar's filter is filled with brief periods of activity which go like this: "I'm back, here's a quick summary, some filler posts, bye". H's acting like a dude who doesn't have a whole lot of time to put into writing up stuff, but he is clearly reading based on his quotes in his posts. Not everyone spams like You, HF, Koshi, or VE. On May 22 2019 10:56 iGrok wrote:
C OR R==TOWN
C OR H==TOWN
H OR R==TOWN
R != H
C AND H AND R==MAFIA
Forgot that part read: one of calix, ruxxar is town one of calix, hf is town one of ruxxar, hf is town ruxxar has a different alignment from hf one of ruxxar, hf, calix scum so he is basically saying "all 3 of them look super scummy to me, but it makes no sense for them to be a team, so lemme look for the one that is most likely scum and afk my vote there" Fair play on the whole 'they're not on a team so clearly I fucked up somewhere' part. But if he thinks there's mafia between HF and myself then it still makes more sense to just re-vote me since I actually had votes and if I'm mafia then great, if I'm town then HF is scum, etc. Especially since he thinks one of us is scum still. yeah. the progression or read kinda makes sense if you think from his pov. but i also agree with you that i am not a fan of him parking the vote again on hf, after earlier being like "cant get him lynched anyways". but then i dont think anyone was in thread, so it prolly didnt super matter anyways? Whether it 'mattered or not' isn't really the point though. As for your Artanis thing, is forgetting to include a name in a basic reads list that has no reasoning attached actually scummy? *Insert random question that pretend shows I am scumhunting but instead shows I am not thinking about the game myself and really dislike to analyse situations and make conclusions about them. Not to speak of forcing my conclusions on the thread like every fucking townie does from time to time* Could you actually fuck off? I am trying to play the game and you keep harassing me and yelling at people who 'talk to me like I am a person' as if I am somehow undeserving of that. It's rude and starting to get to me on a personal level. I have a question for you Calix Since you've played a couple games as town against Koshi now, did you ever manage to catch him in those two previous games? Did he play like this in either of those two ones? How about the opposite, when you were scum vs his town? Uh, I think I got lynched D1 in the scum game. And I don't think I've ever 'caught' him as town until after I was dead, lol. So my record of reading Koshi is, on the whole, not great. you have the benefit of hindsight now, do you think this play is more similar to his town or scum games? If I had the power to smite Koshi and rayn both out of the game I probably would, even though sadly I have a townread on rayn and sort of a community town read on Koshi
Wish I could be more useful but I actually don't know. I see both town and mafia in his play.
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On May 22 2019 20:56 Calix wrote:Show nested quote +On May 22 2019 20:54 wherebugsgo wrote:On May 22 2019 20:51 Calix wrote:On May 22 2019 20:50 wherebugsgo wrote:On May 22 2019 20:45 Calix wrote:On May 22 2019 20:43 Koshi wrote:On May 22 2019 20:41 Calix wrote:On May 22 2019 20:38 disformation wrote:On May 22 2019 20:37 Calix wrote:On May 22 2019 20:31 disformation wrote:
[quote]
oh he is going for a logic attempt. let me try to translate and see if it makes sense:
[quote]
[quote]
[quote]
[quote]
read:
one of calix, ruxxar is town
one of calix, hf is town
one of ruxxar, hf is town
ruxxar has a different alignment from hf
one of ruxxar, hf, calix scum
so he is basically saying "all 3 of them look super scummy to me, but it makes no sense for them to be a team, so lemme look for the one that is most likely scum and afk my vote there" Fair play on the whole 'they're not on a team so clearly I fucked up somewhere' part. But if he thinks there's mafia between HF and myself then it still makes more sense to just re-vote me since I actually had votes and if I'm mafia then great, if I'm town then HF is scum, etc. Especially since he thinks one of us is scum still. yeah. the progression or read kinda makes sense if you think from his pov. but i also agree with you that i am not a fan of him parking the vote again on hf, after earlier being like "cant get him lynched anyways". but then i dont think anyone was in thread, so it prolly didnt super matter anyways? Whether it 'mattered or not' isn't really the point though. As for your Artanis thing, is forgetting to include a name in a basic reads list that has no reasoning attached actually scummy? *Insert random question that pretend shows I am scumhunting but instead shows I am not thinking about the game myself and really dislike to analyse situations and make conclusions about them. Not to speak of forcing my conclusions on the thread like every fucking townie does from time to time* Could you actually fuck off? I am trying to play the game and you keep harassing me and yelling at people who 'talk to me like I am a person' as if I am somehow undeserving of that. It's rude and starting to get to me on a personal level. I have a question for you Calix Since you've played a couple games as town against Koshi now, did you ever manage to catch him in those two previous games? Did he play like this in either of those two ones? How about the opposite, when you were scum vs his town? Uh, I think I got lynched D1 in the scum game. And I don't think I've ever 'caught' him as town until after I was dead, lol. So my record of reading Koshi is, on the whole, not great. you have the benefit of hindsight now, do you think this play is more similar to his town or scum games? If I had the power to smite Koshi and rayn both out of the game I probably would, even though sadly I have a townread on rayn and sort of a community town read on Koshi Wish I could be more useful but I actually don't know. I see both town and mafia in his play.
To elaborate, he does make some observations but he also has a 'fly-by' approach and is very spammy without saying a lot or being very threatening. For example, he super-scum-reads me but I don't feel pressured by this. I just got annoyed at the running commentary/ mockery on my posts.
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On May 22 2019 21:17 disformation wrote:Show nested quote +On May 22 2019 21:11 Holyflare wrote:
Can everyone please comment on igrok and stop ignoring him. Read his points on me and see if you agree with them. If you think they're all fabricated why has he not updated it when told he's wrong? aw crap. yeah the progression can look fine, but his starting point is still wrong/weird as hell. *sighs*
Well I don't think the iGrok points sufficiently back up the point he was making on HF.
Considered this at the time until some people pointed out that maybe iGrok just hadn't read the thread properly and that was why the evidence didn't fully mesh with the points.
But now I think there are quite a few good reasons to think he's mafia.
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On May 22 2019 21:27 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Like why doesnt he just vote for ruxxar if he scumreads ruxxar lol?
Doesn't want to be implicated in a ML, perhaps?
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On May 22 2019 21:35 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Conversion has actually a decent chance of being mafia, even with Calix.
What changed from your town-read of him?
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On May 22 2019 21:38 raynpelikoneet wrote:
here is what conversion did last night:
iGrok has his stupid (sorry man it was stupid) propositional calculus case.
Conv says he has read iGrok's post, and says he will go read HF and Calix
Instead of reading HF and Calix he takes part into "proving" iGrok's "case"
Then he ends up reading ruxxar and votes for him.
Yeah this is all true so it is an EOD that could come from mafia just quietly nattering on about logick stuff before voting for the leading train. He was pretty waffly on ruxxar before.
But I've liked Conversion's big posts [even if he does use meta way too much, lol] so not convinced he's mafia.
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Okay I haven't properly read the thread and don't think I'll get the time to do that this cycle because of work.
But I think it's really suspicious how every time I am in the thread, certain players 'town lean' me but when I am not in the thread, they start calling me potential mafia again or associate me with every goddamn person [iGrok, Artanis, BC, Conversion]. I am thinking I am being set up for a mislynch down the line because people know rayn/ Koshi will tunnel me until the end of time.
I am actually thinking this is more scummy than just rayn/ Koshi. Those two are, as far as I can recall, the ONLY people who have consistently scum-read me and called for my head. Meanwhile people like HF, VE, Artanis, BC dance around my alignment as and when it's convenient. And WBG claims to think I'm town yet has made several comments that look, to me, like he's encouraging people to vote for me/ consider me as an option. Which is fucking weird because why would you want a town read to be considered for lynch?
When I get the time I want to filter the HF, VE, Artanis, BC group because there's probably mafia in there and it might not necessarily be/ just be BC.
In the meantime, I am voting for iGrok.
##vote iGrok
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Anyway I think VE looks the worst.
He spends a bunch of time talking about how mafia Artanis is. Meanwhile he spends barely any time discussing me. His reasons for scum-reading me aren't reasons at all - it's just ""POE"" and he even claims he thinks I look townie but just less townie than other people.
On May 22 2019 22:24 VisceraEyes wrote:
LOL
omg ur right this is fun my bad.
Bugs I still PoE Calix, but Conversion dropped in my estimation too so that PoE is weaker. It doesn't make Calix look any BETTER, it just add more Ps to E, making it less likely BY DEFINITION that she's mafia.
I don't have a strong read on Calix, she feels town to me, but not as town as my town reads so she's down in the bowels of my nulls/lynches. It's real simple and I'm trolling you because I never ever ONCE said that Calix wasn't on my radar, at least not that I remember. I have NO idea where you got the idea that my read on her switched.
So why is he voting me, you ask?
On May 23 2019 12:07 VisceraEyes wrote:
I think easiest vote. I'm open to suggestions.
Because it's "the easiest vote". Keep in mind DAY 2 HAS JUST STARTED AND HE'S ALREADY TALKING ABOUT 'EASY VOTES' LIKE IT'S EOD.
His scum team is also Thread Sentiment Personified. iGrok, Artanis, Calix. Literally all of these people can get lynched right now.
Scummy as fuck if you ask me.
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In what world does 'easiest' mean 'scummiest', disformation? Those two words aren't synonymous at all.
And yeah I am gonna expect you to, like, take harder stances this phase if you don't mind. I still have no idea what your read on me even is.
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On May 23 2019 18:45 VisceraEyes wrote:
Easiest means "the lynch I have to fight Koshi the least over that I'm also willing to go on"
Sorry if that wasn't clear.
So banking on the rayn/ Koshi votes to get a mislynch because you won't have to put in the effort yourself.
Gotcha.
My head's currently at BC/ iGrok/ VE. Rayn and Koshi might have just gotten lost on their way to the Obs QT.
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On May 23 2019 18:49 Koshi wrote:
Can somebody explain to me why the thread now thibks conversion is mafia? I saw rayn put it in the thread and after that he dropped on both HF and VE townlist by more than he should.
Rayn didn't like his EOD posting. Dunno about the other two.
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EPT
