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On May 21 2019 23:31 Jockmcplop wrote:Show nested quote +On May 21 2019 23:30 disformation wrote:On May 21 2019 23:27 disformation wrote:On May 21 2019 23:03 Koshi wrote:On May 21 2019 21:23 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I am trusting Koshi's read on disformation because Koshi is probably the best of active players in reading him and i think Koshi is town. I tried soooo hard to bus disfo last game i was scum with him with also Koshi yelling disfo is scum but i didn't even then succeed in killing him (not that i really wanted to lol). Well. He is my shennanie target atm. dl is like 5am for me so if you are into getting up early your chances arent bad. meanwhile looking at jock. he asks a metric fuckton of questions. like ball park of half of his filter. some of them lead somewhere though not always related to the question: e.g: On May 20 2019 16:22 Jockmcplop wrote:On May 20 2019 16:21 Holyflare wrote:On May 20 2019 16:18 Jockmcplop wrote:On May 20 2019 16:18 Holyflare wrote:
Jock I suggest moving away from rayn and forming opinions on other people. Rayn is a big time sink and the only thing that will change his mind is by playing townie. Yeah my previous post says as much. I'm finished with that unless he keeps on at me about it. What do you think of conversion? I think your post has a lot of merit, it's flaky and apologetic when it doesn't need to be. Like it a lot better than whatever people are posting about ruxxar because I don't think ruxxar looks too bad tbh. I don't like how bugs has essentially discounted iGrok and solely talked about VE's points and not mine and then given iGrok an afk excuse pass. iGrok is a good lynch imo. He hasn't posted enough for me to say that he's scum really but his lack of self defense is concerning and I'm always up for lynching a lurker on day 1. or: On May 20 2019 17:16 Jockmcplop wrote:On May 20 2019 17:12 BloodyC0bbler wrote:On May 20 2019 17:08 Jockmcplop wrote:On May 20 2019 17:04 BloodyC0bbler wrote:On May 20 2019 16:58 Jockmcplop wrote:On May 20 2019 16:56 Jockmcplop wrote:On May 20 2019 16:49 BloodyC0bbler wrote:
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given that the lurkers in this game more or less (so far)
are like
Disinformation
Ruxxar
Calix
and like
Conversion
are in that list more or less im semi fine with that? But only because most of the people lurking thus far are people i already want to hang.
If you are so unsure with the current thread trend and who to lynch id almost say rng it instead. Do'nt forget iGrock. But yeah, that list of lurkers looks like SOLID pickings for a lynch. In fact, why would you leave iGrock out of that list? Did you forget, because I mentioned him the post that I quoted. Tbh Igrock gets a pass atm, along with artanis as they are names i recognize and would rather be sure on alignment before killing them. not saying they aren't mafia, just saying they both more or less look inactive as fuck and not like lurkers. Plus I far more prefer offing people in the list I listed. All of them scream scum for a reason here or there, and all of it after the stupidity of the first few pages / shit with rayn. Hmmm.... Not a fan of this reasoning but I'll let it pass for now. Can you explain to me why recongizable names (I assume that means people you have played with a few times before) means you don't want to vote for them based of inactivity? mainly due to it backfiring on me in the past. Offing a recognizable name before they have an opportunity to damn themselves can backfire royally and fuck the town out of a resource. Now, if I thought they had said something that screams super scum to me id be down, but as of yet I don't have anything besides a null read. Why off a null read when I have mafia reads? This makes sense. You think iGrock would be a good resource to keep if town? I have never played with him before so have no idea. I'm really up for a conversion lynch here. He isn't posting much but what he has posted is very scum. Like super scum. ##vote: conversion honestly his filter is also really hard to read, cause its hard to tell if noone answered a question or if he just dropped the line. doesnt seem to be concerned in cases where he doesnt get an answer though? follow up: On May 21 2019 20:48 Jockmcplop wrote:On May 21 2019 20:44 Conversion wrote:On May 21 2019 20:28 BloodyC0bbler wrote:On May 21 2019 20:24 Conversion wrote:On May 21 2019 20:18 BloodyC0bbler wrote:
The jock read has been explained in thread, however it was by bugs.
The entire premise of me asking people (specifically the ones I was asking) was to try and recreate something we made last game that was well, helpful even if we were wrong at points.
Also as for you? You have provided nothing of value to the thread, maintain activity levels, but basically don't do anything to help further a lynch / find possible mafia. This is clearly how I see your posting. Others clearly could see it differently.
Also how about for a change you actually post who you think is mafia? Hell theres enough of a thread. If you could lynch 1 of 3 people right now, list them.
Also Conversion I ask you the same question. Who are your top 3 scum reads and why I’m spending a good chunk of this day getting a better hold of who I trust and who I don’t since I spent the last 48hrs tunneling andapparently that makes me mafia. also heading into work now brb Hey everyone, Keep a note at this reply please. Its not fully damning but it not looking good. Hey Disinformation. Your turn. Name your top 3 scum reads and why how is that not good? are you serious. my entire filter is calling disfo scum, and the MAJORITY of people in the game are telling me (some which I believe to be town atm) that I’m wrong and to look elsewhere. you have Jock on your list crying about how I’m scum and being flimsy as fuck and not really looking into anything else yet you don’t question him/find him suspicious? this game man.. People I have 'looked into' during this game: You Hf a little bit VE a little bit then backed off Rayn more than once I've spent most of the first couple of rl days trying to get reads by asking questions and gathering information.. Tell me that's wrong... I dare you. Stop this OMGUS please it doesn't help anything. says it pretty much himself in that post. not sure of his town reads though? I did post town reads. Amusingly not even I want to look through my filter. WBG was my main townread.
ah yeah found it.
wbg and art.
On May 21 2019 14:24 Jockmcplop wrote:
At the same time, and although I said Ruxxar's main read on hf doesn't make sense, I'm going back and looking at hf now and ehhhhh
Normally he has tried to make a case on someone by now.
I take that criticism back ruxxar.
I still think your post is a bit scummy but you have a point on hf.
He hasn't done anything. He's voting for the most afk of afkers which is literally the opposite of what he normally does. He argued with rayn on my behalf alot and that really is the most active he's been in the thread. Since then he has got nothing done except give a bunch of town reads and then say that maybe he was wrong about them.
I'm confused.
Is everyone scum except me?
So far - the people I would townread are:
Artanis (just because I haven't seen anything scummy from him)
WBG (is playing like town WBG - this changed from the first couple of hours but I was reading too much into a simple mistake)
Scum are:
Conversion still hasn't convinced me to change my vote. Being angry about being voted for is NAI. Trying to make me stop talking about the fact that he said he hasn't played when he has. Repeatedly says 'fuck you it was because i was fired.' This is bad. All he needed to say was that he replaced out. Its like he REALLY doesn't want me to talk about it.
ALSO HE TUNNELS DISFO BUT HAS DONE NOTHING ELSE
NOTHING
One single tunnel in a game could easily be fake.
Conversion what are you thinking about others in the thread??? (other than disfo)
You said you have 24 hours to convince us you're town but since then you've done absolutely nothing that would convince anyone you are town.
HF (scumlean) - Ruxxar's case is interesting. You are normally leading the thread or getting involved with trying to get people onto a wagon. You aren't doing what you normally do as town. I think every game I've played with you you've been blue - and in each one you were one of the main presences in the thread - at least trying hard to get stuff done. You seem to be reacting to other people's reads alot more than you are making your own.
Can you explain this for me.
This game is confusing as all hell.
I don't get it.
I don't like Koshi, don't like disfo very much either, BC is suspicious and they can't all be mafia FFS. I'm leaving these guys as null for now with VE - who claims to be obvtown but I don't see it yet.
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On May 21 2019 23:33 VisceraEyes wrote:
omg I'm being taken for a ride.
to the danger zone?
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On May 21 2019 16:58 iGrok wrote:
alright guys its 1am and I have to be up at 5am for another all-day class. I'll be back before the vote, catch up, give my thoughts, and vote. next day cycle won't be like this, class finishes friday.
And I guess I shouldn't really say class, its a programming seminar thats 12 hours/day.
Go catch some scum for me lol. Most of my reads are there.
Some hidden thought counts for future use:
BC:1
WBG:2
HF:2
VE:4
Rux:1
Actually, I'll go ahead and open the rux thought up. Someone should review post #682. I honestly dont even remember what it was and I'm about to pass out, but I made a note to review it.
post #682 isnt even ruxxar? its that post:
On May 20 2019 21:56 Artanis[Xp] wrote:Show nested quote +On May 19 2019 22:58 VisceraEyes wrote:
I think today (irl, first 24 hours) would be a lot more productive if everyone operated under the assumption that A) rayn is not lynchable and B) bugs is not lynchable. My reasoning is this: from what I've seen both of them are going to be relatively active during this cycle, and there's a non-zero chance that they're both town. IF they're both town, there's a >50% chance that this thread is completely ruined by the end if this first 24 hours. So in the spirit of getting everyone to look at the game holistically, I'd like it if everyone just IGNORED rayn and bugs today (first 24 hours) and then if we still want to lynch into them then we pull them back into the pool next day.
To that end I'm going to unvote and reread everything. Quite unlikely, but I am going to be so amused if the scumteam is something like VE/WBG/Rayn.
so... "i had a thought on ruxxar, that i dont remember" off something art posted and has nothing to do with rux? uhhh...
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On May 21 2019 23:55 Koshi wrote:Show nested quote +On May 21 2019 23:27 disformation wrote:On May 21 2019 23:03 Koshi wrote:On May 21 2019 21:23 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I am trusting Koshi's read on disformation because Koshi is probably the best of active players in reading him and i think Koshi is town. I tried soooo hard to bus disfo last game i was scum with him with also Koshi yelling disfo is scum but i didn't even then succeed in killing him (not that i really wanted to lol). Well. He is my shennanie target atm. dl is like 5am for me so if you are into getting up early your chances arent bad. meanwhile looking at jock. he asks a metric fuckton of questions. like ball park of half of his filter. some of them lead somewhere though not always related to the question: e.g: On May 20 2019 16:22 Jockmcplop wrote:On May 20 2019 16:21 Holyflare wrote:On May 20 2019 16:18 Jockmcplop wrote:On May 20 2019 16:18 Holyflare wrote:
Jock I suggest moving away from rayn and forming opinions on other people. Rayn is a big time sink and the only thing that will change his mind is by playing townie. Yeah my previous post says as much. I'm finished with that unless he keeps on at me about it. What do you think of conversion? I think your post has a lot of merit, it's flaky and apologetic when it doesn't need to be. Like it a lot better than whatever people are posting about ruxxar because I don't think ruxxar looks too bad tbh. I don't like how bugs has essentially discounted iGrok and solely talked about VE's points and not mine and then given iGrok an afk excuse pass. iGrok is a good lynch imo. He hasn't posted enough for me to say that he's scum really but his lack of self defense is concerning and I'm always up for lynching a lurker on day 1. or: On May 20 2019 17:16 Jockmcplop wrote:On May 20 2019 17:12 BloodyC0bbler wrote:On May 20 2019 17:08 Jockmcplop wrote:On May 20 2019 17:04 BloodyC0bbler wrote:On May 20 2019 16:58 Jockmcplop wrote:On May 20 2019 16:56 Jockmcplop wrote:On May 20 2019 16:49 BloodyC0bbler wrote:On May 20 2019 16:41 Jockmcplop wrote:
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So it doesn't get lost. Anyone wanna talk about lynching a lurker? given that the lurkers in this game more or less (so far) are like Disinformation Ruxxar Calix and like Conversion are in that list more or less im semi fine with that? But only because most of the people lurking thus far are people i already want to hang. If you are so unsure with the current thread trend and who to lynch id almost say rng it instead. Do'nt forget iGrock. But yeah, that list of lurkers looks like SOLID pickings for a lynch. In fact, why would you leave iGrock out of that list? Did you forget, because I mentioned him the post that I quoted. Tbh Igrock gets a pass atm, along with artanis as they are names i recognize and would rather be sure on alignment before killing them. not saying they aren't mafia, just saying they both more or less look inactive as fuck and not like lurkers. Plus I far more prefer offing people in the list I listed. All of them scream scum for a reason here or there, and all of it after the stupidity of the first few pages / shit with rayn. Hmmm.... Not a fan of this reasoning but I'll let it pass for now. Can you explain to me why recongizable names (I assume that means people you have played with a few times before) means you don't want to vote for them based of inactivity? mainly due to it backfiring on me in the past. Offing a recognizable name before they have an opportunity to damn themselves can backfire royally and fuck the town out of a resource. Now, if I thought they had said something that screams super scum to me id be down, but as of yet I don't have anything besides a null read. Why off a null read when I have mafia reads? This makes sense. You think iGrock would be a good resource to keep if town? I have never played with him before so have no idea. I'm really up for a conversion lynch here. He isn't posting much but what he has posted is very scum. Like super scum. ##vote: conversion honestly his filter is also really hard to read, cause its hard to tell if noone answered a question or if he just dropped the line. doesnt seem to be concerned in cases where he doesnt get an answer though? If this is all true I can actually vote jock. Maybe I should read his filter when I am home.
thing that confuses me is that jock says that bc is suspicious later in his reads post, but he seems to be quite agreeing with bc in the long quote chain.
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On May 21 2019 21:04 BloodyC0bbler wrote:Show nested quote +On May 21 2019 21:01 Calix wrote:
I don't understand why VE is being considered over rayn. At least VE's actually playing the game.
A bunch of the points against VE seem to be meta-based, or based around 'well he'd usually do this but he's doing that instead' or something, and since I don't know VE, these points don't have much credibility with me tbh. TBH, its a vibe thing. I get completely why you think Rayn could flip red. I honestly can see it. I can also see the same world where VE is red atm as well. Of those 2 VE scares the shit out of me if hes scum. He is one of the few players who can live almost forever when hes not town.
On May 21 2019 21:04 BloodyC0bbler wrote:Show nested quote +On May 21 2019 21:01 Calix wrote:
I don't understand why VE is being considered over rayn. At least VE's actually playing the game.
A bunch of the points against VE seem to be meta-based, or based around 'well he'd usually do this but he's doing that instead' or something, and since I don't know VE, these points don't have much credibility with me tbh. TBH, its a vibe thing. I get completely why you think Rayn could flip red. I honestly can see it. I can also see the same world where VE is red atm as well. Of those 2 VE scares the shit out of me if hes scum. He is one of the few players who can live almost forever when hes not town.
so bc is voting ve based on a fear read basically?
tbh bc imo fell off quite hard after like first half of this phase
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On May 22 2019 00:15 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On May 22 2019 00:13 Holyflare wrote:
Can anyone else offer an explanation? Jock has commented on rayn's accusations saying his vote was actually on rayn for pressure and because of the wording of his first post.
It turns out when he justified himself against rayn's case earlier then he said it was actually for rayn's lack of scum hunting ans NOT the first post.
Very inconsistent I am pretty sure that's what i said in the first place. And even that is not true, because i gave reads when he wanted me to, and just because i didn't think any of the 5 people who posted so far is necessarily mafia shouldn't make me mafia.
which was the post bc is was going on about and wanted to check if ppl also got a town vibe from jock there, despite him having a scum lean on jock. which i also still dont really get.
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On May 22 2019 00:17 VisceraEyes wrote:Show nested quote +On May 22 2019 00:16 raynpelikoneet wrote:On May 22 2019 00:15 VisceraEyes wrote:
Theoretically more had happened by the time rayn case came out, so Jock could have ineloquently meant that his read evolved? I literally asked him why he voted for me in the first place. I know I'm just saying like...I can see a townie who RVS voted you giving a shitty reason just like... Not mentioning the shitty reason when asked later, no?
mmhh i mean. wouldnt town be more like "oh i more or less randomly vote you to see an reaction and that reaction looked scum to me" in the first place instead of trying to like put out a crappy reason and flailing when pressured on it?
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On May 22 2019 00:23 disformation wrote:Show nested quote +On May 22 2019 00:17 VisceraEyes wrote:On May 22 2019 00:16 raynpelikoneet wrote:On May 22 2019 00:15 VisceraEyes wrote:
Theoretically more had happened by the time rayn case came out, so Jock could have ineloquently meant that his read evolved? I literally asked him why he voted for me in the first place. I know I'm just saying like...I can see a townie who RVS voted you giving a shitty reason just like... Not mentioning the shitty reason when asked later, no? mmhh i mean. wouldnt town be more like "oh i more or less randomly vote you to see an reaction and that reaction looked scum to me" in the first place instead of trying to like put out a crappy reason and flailing when pressured on it?
like i agree that usually scum is more anal about trying to be consistent in their stuff, where as town is usually more fluid. but id also expect town to be more upfront and less trying to make up a reason like?
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why no bc? hard to follow reads. fell off super hard after first half of this cycle. currently basically fear voting ve.
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On May 22 2019 00:31 disformation wrote:
why no bc? hard to follow reads. fell off super hard after first half of this cycle. currently basically fear voting ve.
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On May 21 2019 22:20 Koshi wrote:Show nested quote +On May 21 2019 19:58 BloodyC0bbler wrote:
This thread is such a clusterfuck.
Lets all sit back for like, 5 minutes. Remove all our current views for the moment on Calix and Ruxxar.
I say this as these 2 have eaten up the majority of the last well, 30+ hours?
Who does everyone else think is mafia. Of those people who has been say mentioned many times but like, any number of people but its either ignored, buried, or forgotten?
This is for people like VE and Bugs. Stop fighting each other for 5 minutes and how about we find some form of consensus.
and before you yell and scream at me bugs. Yes I think Ruxxar could still flip mafia, but it means jack shit currently if neither of us can convince anyone else to see what we have. So if only 2 maybe 3 people see what we see, just for a moment concede for the purposes of other options that we could be wrong. Let's not focus on 2 people that are mafia and look for mafia. Yes I joined the fucking dark side on Ruxxar but I will not lynch him before Calix EVVVVEEERRR
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mh aight. dont think ive played with bc before, so i dont have meta.
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On May 22 2019 00:38 VisceraEyes wrote:
I'd still do iGrok too
igrok is a bit huh. see:
On May 21 2019 23:55 disformation wrote:Show nested quote +On May 21 2019 16:58 iGrok wrote:
alright guys its 1am and I have to be up at 5am for another all-day class. I'll be back before the vote, catch up, give my thoughts, and vote. next day cycle won't be like this, class finishes friday.
And I guess I shouldn't really say class, its a programming seminar thats 12 hours/day.
Go catch some scum for me lol. Most of my reads are there.
Some hidden thought counts for future use:
BC:1
WBG:2
HF:2
VE:4
Rux:1
Actually, I'll go ahead and open the rux thought up. Someone should review post #682. I honestly dont even remember what it was and I'm about to pass out, but I made a note to review it. post #682 isnt even ruxxar? its that post: Show nested quote +On May 20 2019 21:56 Artanis[Xp] wrote:On May 19 2019 22:58 VisceraEyes wrote:
I think today (irl, first 24 hours) would be a lot more productive if everyone operated under the assumption that A) rayn is not lynchable and B) bugs is not lynchable. My reasoning is this: from what I've seen both of them are going to be relatively active during this cycle, and there's a non-zero chance that they're both town. IF they're both town, there's a >50% chance that this thread is completely ruined by the end if this first 24 hours. So in the spirit of getting everyone to look at the game holistically, I'd like it if everyone just IGNORED rayn and bugs today (first 24 hours) and then if we still want to lynch into them then we pull them back into the pool next day.
To that end I'm going to unvote and reread everything. Quite unlikely, but I am going to be so amused if the scumteam is something like VE/WBG/Rayn. so... "i had a thought on ruxxar, that i dont remember" off something art posted and has nothing to do with rux? uhhh...
wasnt he around earlier trying to catch up?
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aight. i think i might have something in bc, but its not slam dunk and apparently not happening today.
voting jock gives me shitty feels right now.
think id prefer grok over calix atm
but: do you guys have a shiny calix case that is not only based on her first post and/or meta changing?
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On May 22 2019 01:09 raynpelikoneet wrote:
lets murder calix.
aight. to recap.
1) tr on hf early game (who the fuck can read hf that early)
2) entry post tone (ms/mrs roboto)
3) meta is off
and then we have koshi who is just not believing town would arrive at the reads calix has?
am i missing something?
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mh dunno. dont mind her progression on ruxxar and conversion. think hf also pointed out two townie posts of hers and i didnt mind those either.
the meta argument is super bleh to me cause, again dont think ive played much with her.
koshi care to give a bit of detail on calix being fake and the reads are impossible to come from town? (ill try to find it in your filter, but your filter is not a nice place to look for specific stuff)
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On May 20 2019 19:04 Koshi wrote:Show nested quote +On May 20 2019 07:23 disformation wrote:On May 20 2019 07:19 Calix wrote:On May 20 2019 07:15 VisceraEyes wrote:
This is literally the exact shit I was trying to avoid.
I'm catching up but man alive. I specifically warned against this shit. Actually you know what? I am calling bullshit on this. This seems way too convenient. VE just HAPPENED to warn us against pushing rayn too much, tried diverting to iGrok, claimed rayn would ruin the game if we kept pushing him, etc. Then rayn just latches onto a bad case against Jock and pushes it with a vastly disproportionate amount of confidence before making a random and completely unwarranted role claim and generally acting like he's lost his shit. Emphasis on the acting. I'm more tempted to think VE/ rayn set this up than anything else. There are lots of 'hints' beforehand that make me suspicious as to how authentic they're being. #shamelesstinfoil imo VE has mostet townie brownies so far, but I like this post. reminds me i need more vivax in my life (where did he goooo? Ohh disfo. You still didnt change. You read the thread and concluded VE is tip top town. Why would you believe somebody else who rezd the thread would type and believe something like what Calix wrote? Come on... VE tip top town. Calix sees something and goes for a little retarded tinfoil that CANNOT come from town with 2 brain cells. CLASSIC mafia bullshit post because they have to bullshit.
ohhhhh for whatever reason i missed this.
ah i think i get it. you are saying her first post and this post were fabricated and she did a 180° on the tinfoil when seeing nobody (but me) liked it. at least that makes some sense now.
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okay at least koshi now makes more sense in my head. honestly didnt think calix was super serious about that tinfoil, which is why i didnt mind the 180°. think paranoia is more likely town. not sure if she would do that to throw shade on the "obv town"?
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On May 22 2019 01:55 Holyflare wrote:Show nested quote +On May 22 2019 01:52 iGrok wrote:On May 22 2019 01:47 Holyflare wrote:
Igrok are you going to expand on your post about me or just sit in the thread whittling down your limited hours? Not seen any real conclusion about anything. Is there anyone that you haven't accused of being mafia D1? Are you saying my reads should be static and unchanging or what? Each time I call someone mafia I have a precise reason for it and then I see their reaction and what they say and reevaluate. Does that make me mafia? Think bc might be the only person I haven't called mafia I think.
why though? have you read my posts on him? koshi also had one.
On May 22 2019 00:32 disformation wrote:Show nested quote +On May 22 2019 00:31 disformation wrote:
why no bc? hard to follow reads. fell off super hard after first half of this cycle. currently basically fear voting ve. + Show nested quote +On May 21 2019 22:20 Koshi wrote:On May 21 2019 19:58 BloodyC0bbler wrote:
This thread is such a clusterfuck.
Lets all sit back for like, 5 minutes. Remove all our current views for the moment on Calix and Ruxxar.
I say this as these 2 have eaten up the majority of the last well, 30+ hours?
Who does everyone else think is mafia. Of those people who has been say mentioned many times but like, any number of people but its either ignored, buried, or forgotten?
This is for people like VE and Bugs. Stop fighting each other for 5 minutes and how about we find some form of consensus.
and before you yell and scream at me bugs. Yes I think Ruxxar could still flip mafia, but it means jack shit currently if neither of us can convince anyone else to see what we have. So if only 2 maybe 3 people see what we see, just for a moment concede for the purposes of other options that we could be wrong. Let's not focus on 2 people that are mafia and look for mafia. Yes I joined the fucking dark side on Ruxxar but I will not lynch him before Calix EVVVVEEERRR
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On May 22 2019 01:56 iGrok wrote:Show nested quote +On May 21 2019 22:19 raynpelikoneet wrote:iGrok you said still not caught up, but so far I want rux or disinfo lynched. but wrote "thoughts" on people who are not disfo or ruxxar, before and after this post. and nothing on disfo & ruxxar. Frankly nothing that disinfo wrote stands out. I still don't have a single thing written down under "key moments" for them. Could be bored town, could be afk mafia, no idea. I think bugs made a pretty good case on rux in #1096. Also, I previously said to review #682 for rux. I meant to type #862, but it was 1am and I misread my own notes. Apologies.
ah.
On May 21 2019 06:02 ruXxar wrote:Show nested quote +On May 21 2019 03:40 BloodyC0bbler wrote:On May 20 2019 23:30 Artanis[Xp] wrote:On May 20 2019 23:25 VisceraEyes wrote:
Like I get it, they're two different things, HF's claim last game and the way rayn phrased his intro this game, and they're like apples to oranges or whatever, but it seems like BC is referring to more the mindset behind it all, like someone who fakeclaims the way HF did last game wouldn't/shouldn't be all up in rayns ass the way he is for what he is - not necessarily drawing a direct parallel between the two occurrences, but more commenting on the mindset that drives them both. I disagree that it necessarily means that HF should die, but I can kinda see where he's coming from. From what I recall BC's mafia game tends to be more stand-offish and abrasive than his town game, and it feels like he's doing just that. Are you not bothered by him driving the Calix point home for following thread sentiment in a wordy manner whilst literally following thread sentiment? Wait wait wait? Let me get this straight. In a thread where basically only 2 people (one of which I was the first to really scum read) being rayn and ruxxar all saw Calix as scum. Where at a time, Rayn was getting shit on from the entire thread. I was pushing thread sentiment? I was stopping a shit show of cluttering of the thread as best I could. Ruxxar? Thread sentiment? Literally the first to bring him up. Disinformation? same basic thing. So basically fuck you artanis. I tried to keep people off you so you could come back and at least do something. I give next to 0 fucks you chose to filter dive me cause well its at least productive but for you to completely read the thread wrong means you skim read, didnt read, or chose to fabricate shit. ESPECIALLY when you filter dive me. Sorry, if you outright say you are reading my filter, I expect you to read the thread at the time of my postings, otherwise you are legit making shit up. So you wanted me to read you? You can join the mafia side of my list.
Show nested quote +On May 20 2019 04:47 ruXxar wrote:
sup guys, long time no see. skimmed through the thread, dont remember all the specifics.
i dont wanna lynch the active people, cause they make the game fun.
- jockmcplop is top town, he speaks from his heart.
- hf looks townie, i love when he gets riled up.
- VE seems aight, could be deviously smart mafia.
- rayn attacking jockmcplop is dumb, and his fumbling to explain his first post was meh, dont make him mafia tho.
- bugs looks aigh tish.
- i dont like calix. seem stiff and too sure of himself. looks like hes posting with perferct information.
already certain of his opinons, and just tries to find the best angle to defend them.
##Vote calix Show nested quote +On May 20 2019 05:00 raynpelikoneet wrote:I am not sure i will bother to play a game with this amount of retarded people. Yes, it's fucking retarded when you are clearly being cased regardless of whatever Holyflare says afterwards and people won't accept your completely reasonable and easily truth-checkable explanation. I also find it completely unreasonable that people continue with their bullshit on me based on "rayn ahs no opinions" after i gave my opinion on everyone who had posted so far in the game. When everyone else's only real read was a stupidass shitread on me based on fucking nothing. So keep your stupid little circle jerk and dont talk to me please. Unless you're VE or Artanis. Bugs can go to Acrofales pile if he is town and sadly i am not even sure he is not. Acrofales pile is a pile where people who i thought very high of earlier but turns out they are not good town players after all go.Everything he posts is just so fucking wrong and he is even trying to coach me or some shit. I could't care less what the dude writes, because it's jsut straight out BS out of his keyboard, seems like the pattern from last game continues. + Show Spoiler +On May 11 2019 06:56 wherebugsgo wrote:
likewise, 13/10 would ignore both rayn and HF again rayn voted: D1 - mafia bugs voted: D1 - town D2 - town D3 - town D4 - town i laughed at that comment for liek 10 minutes. for real. gonna vote for mafia again. ##vote Calix When you have these two posts in the thread then making the following post on calix is not exactly a bold original idea. It could be construed as trying to get a second wagon started without risking yourself. Do notice that both me and rayn voted for calix. But bloody despite calling her post «screaming fucking mafia» did not join voting. Perhaps waiting to see if thread sentiment would build further onto calix first. Show nested quote +On May 20 2019 06:18 BloodyC0bbler wrote:honestly thought this was going to start you know, not when it did. As I am just finishing the catch up so far. Anyone who liked the fact HF started the vote train and swing onto rayn based off the Town Vanilla post should be shooting HF with a gun. Why? Because HF claims / fake claims shit every fucking game and gets pissed if you lynch him off it. If someones whos moto is to be a troll with claims decides to start any form of suspicion on someone for any style of claim he deserves to be doused in fire and die. Now. If you voted for Rayn for anything after his claim and before Calix appeared in the thread, you are in the clear for now. Calix imo screams fucking mafia. His first post, Which I will quote here just to bring it back to the forefront On May 19 2019 22:38 Calix wrote:
Hi.
HF/ Jock said a lot of what I was going to say so I don't have much new to add. They're currently my top town-reads because of that and I'm happy to sheep them.
I like WBG's #220, that looks like a post a townie would make when they're trying to be reasonable and not just jump down their suspect's throat.
Personally, I don't like how rayn has been acting during his latest interaction with Jock. Jock's been on the offensive and looking really townie while rayn's responses have been lacking.
(I don't care about the role stuff. It has nothing to do with my vote)
##vote raynpelikoneet this post is extremely fucking scummy. His entire post screams thread sentiment while offering nothing new, gives a shitty reason to drop a vote. He "red" reads rayn for being lacking while his entire post is lacking anything but "certainty" then spends the rest of his time basically doing nothing aside from "keep voting rayn" while offering nothing new before vanishing.
i like that post by ruxxar. 
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On May 22 2019 02:00 Holyflare wrote:Show nested quote +On May 22 2019 01:59 disformation wrote:On May 22 2019 01:55 Holyflare wrote:On May 22 2019 01:52 iGrok wrote:On May 22 2019 01:47 Holyflare wrote:
Igrok are you going to expand on your post about me or just sit in the thread whittling down your limited hours? Not seen any real conclusion about anything. Is there anyone that you haven't accused of being mafia D1? Are you saying my reads should be static and unchanging or what? Each time I call someone mafia I have a precise reason for it and then I see their reaction and what they say and reevaluate. Does that make me mafia? Think bc might be the only person I haven't called mafia I think. why though? have you read my posts on him? koshi also had one. On May 22 2019 00:32 disformation wrote:On May 22 2019 00:31 disformation wrote:
why no bc? hard to follow reads. fell off super hard after first half of this cycle. currently basically fear voting ve. + On May 21 2019 22:20 Koshi wrote:On May 21 2019 19:58 BloodyC0bbler wrote:
This thread is such a clusterfuck.
Lets all sit back for like, 5 minutes. Remove all our current views for the moment on Calix and Ruxxar.
I say this as these 2 have eaten up the majority of the last well, 30+ hours?
Who does everyone else think is mafia. Of those people who has been say mentioned many times but like, any number of people but its either ignored, buried, or forgotten?
This is for people like VE and Bugs. Stop fighting each other for 5 minutes and how about we find some form of consensus.
and before you yell and scream at me bugs. Yes I think Ruxxar could still flip mafia, but it means jack shit currently if neither of us can convince anyone else to see what we have. So if only 2 maybe 3 people see what we see, just for a moment concede for the purposes of other options that we could be wrong. Let's not focus on 2 people that are mafia and look for mafia. Yes I joined the fucking dark side on Ruxxar but I will not lynch him before Calix EVVVVEEERRR I just think I prefer my tone read to whatever these posts say. I definitely don't want to write him off as blindly town but it's vastly different from what I've experienced when he is mafia.
aight. what about the thing ruxxar pointed out as pointed out by igrok?
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