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On May 19 2019 23:20 raynpelikoneet wrote: I have to check if iGrok is really that terrible as mafia. If it was iamperfection who made that post i 'd vote in a heartbeat.  Well he instareplaced out of the last game as mafia. If viewed from an 'iGrok bad at mafia, but he try this game in penance" perspective it feels pretty good. | ||
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Maybe I'm conflating him with someone - it's been a LONG time. | ||
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On May 19 2019 23:24 Calix wrote: I think you exaggerate how much danger rayn is in. We're in a 72-hour day cycle. Some votes on rayn ~12 hours in =/= half the town wanting him cut, drawn and quartered. If he is town, he has loads and loads of time to prove it. I don't see the point of trying to draw attention away from rayn when half the players haven't even posted yet. It's less about trying to draw attention away from him - if you'll note I said we can absolutely pull him back into the pool in 24 hours - and more about trying to keep the thread from shitting up. I'm not sure if you've played with rayn and bugs before, but they will absolutely shit up this thread trying to get the other lynched if they're both town. It will not be pretty. This is mostly an attempt to mitigate that possibility and put it off for as long as possible. | ||
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On May 19 2019 23:26 VisceraEyes wrote: It's less about trying to draw attention away from him - if you'll note I said we can absolutely pull him back into the pool in 24 hours - and more about trying to keep the thread from shitting up. I'm not sure if you've played with rayn and bugs before, but they will absolutely shit up this thread trying to get the other lynched if they're both town. It will not be pretty. This is mostly an attempt to mitigate that possibility and put it off for as long as possible. Also for everyone in the ObsQT, this is the first post where you can confidently say that VE is town. Make a note. <3 | ||
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On May 19 2019 23:31 Holyflare wrote: I literally don't even know what this case is supposed to highlight? What makes him mafia? Opportunistic hop onto rayn wagon that contradicts his prior posting. It seemed obvious enough to me... | ||
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Whatever. | ||
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As I said in my post DIRECTLY ABOVE that one HF, the first post heavily implies that he thinks rayn is town, that the town vanilla did NOT bother him. Clearly. But then in the second one he says he thinks rayn got host-fucked. It's a clear contradiction, are you really doing this? | ||
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On May 20 2019 00:45 Holyflare wrote: May actually even vote him with you. That WAS an awful lot of words to end up maybe voting him with me. :/ | ||
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What do you think of Artanis so far? | ||
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On May 19 2019 23:32 Calix wrote: While I can see where you're coming from with wanting to avoid a flame war, I don't think disregarding players as lynch candidates [even if only temporary] is a good idea just because they MIGHT act like shitters  And if they will do that then better to get it out of the way IMO.This really just makes it sound like you want to lynch townies. I really don't like the feels. | ||
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I'm catching up but man alive. I specifically warned against this shit. | ||
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I did miss that iGrok was town last game for whatever reason I though iGrok was replaced by Vivax who got modkilled, but it was a simultaneous thing iGrok replaced when Vivax was unjustly modkilled. Honest mistake, but it doesn't change my read of this game. Just makes the throwaway meta part of it inaccurate. | ||
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On May 20 2019 08:17 Holyflare wrote: Nvm. Not sure I like VE' s reentry straight into Jock though. I was asked a specific question dick. Like about a specific post. | ||
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On May 20 2019 07:19 Calix wrote: Actually you know what? I am calling bullshit on this. This seems way too convenient. 1)VE just HAPPENED to warn us against pushing rayn too much, 2)tried diverting to iGrok, 3)claimed rayn would ruin the game if we kept pushing him, etc. Then rayn just latches onto a bad case against Jock and pushes it with a vastly disproportionate amount of confidence before making a random and completely unwarranted role claim and generally acting like he's lost his shit. Emphasis on the acting. I'm more tempted to think VE/ rayn set this up than anything else. There are lots of 'hints' beforehand that make me suspicious as to how authentic they're being. #shamelesstinfoil 1) Yes, I warned you. I warned you all. I know what level rayn is willing to push it to, because I've played a fair amount with rayn. 2) I was explicit in my intentions in this thread - I said I was NOT willing to lynch inside bugs/rayn and that I was opening up my investigation into the rest of the game - that I was going back and rereading the game. And the result of that ended up being my iGrok point. Sure you can disagree with it or think it's weak or whatever you want. But it's consistent with what I've said I was going to put into this thread. 3) More like 1a. I did warn you. Because I've seen it. I made a similar read last game when he (again) got in a shitfight with Bugs in the middle of D1. I'm not "setting anything up with rayn". If anything we're just falling into a rhythm, as we tend to do. Now if you have any further questions or concerns, feel free to ask, but I consider this matter closed and your suspicion of me completely assuaged. | ||
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On May 20 2019 07:26 wherebugsgo wrote: we should either ignore rayn or kill him because his reads are useless and all he’s doing is tanking the thread also VE you’re making me tingly this game in a way I wasn’t feeling at all last game and that makes me really sad. With that said if you can talk to me about BC and it makes sense maybe I’ll feel better about you. So tell me, what do you think of BC? BC, similar question to you. How would you read VE right now? NEAT! Maybe instead this game you try and get me lynched and fail and then realize it was dumb later like I did last game. I'm reading BC in a really similar way to last game, though this game I'll say he seems more interested in asserting some form of thread control which seemed like he was slightly less into last game. Could be a time thing, but it seems more likely that it's, as you've been saying, within a town-adjustment range that I can tolerate. Maybe he thought last game NEEDED more thread control or something (though I don't know how you make lurkers post with thread control -.-) I'm going with town for now until I get something concrete otherwise. | ||
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On May 20 2019 08:59 wherebugsgo wrote: I’ve got a meeting in 3 minutes. VE, BC while I’m gone sheep me on ruxxar or explain why you don’t want to Also define who’s a thread skimmer/lurker this game and rank them on kill priority I'm gonna pass on that one. A) You've given literally no reasoning that I can see for your vote aside from "for that one post alone" which, filtering you in isolation, I can't even see which it is. So... B) I filtered ruxxar and found that his posting seems internally consistent, and relatively comprehensive as far as "what you should know about me" posts go. It feels this side of townie to me. I'm not going to rank lurkers on kill priority, that's the most ridiculous thing I've ever heard what are you even fucking doing? | ||
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