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Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
May 30 2019 07:26 GMT
#5261
On May 30 2019 16:24 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 30 2019 16:23 Holyflare wrote:
On May 30 2019 15:37 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On May 30 2019 15:25 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
On May 30 2019 15:22 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On May 30 2019 15:19 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
On May 30 2019 15:16 raynpelikoneet wrote:
And what did i do that was bad?

You have a very different set of values as to what is important as well as what is offensive and what isn't compared to most players on the site. You know that, Joni. It often creates friction where there really is no need. The community is small enough as is and I'd prefer we all try and get along, lest it becomes impossible to have more games.

Well then please, you, tell me where i was over the line offensive in this game because i cant see it?

I don't think you've crossed the line this game at least for me. They way you play can definitely ruffle some feathers in that you get tunneled on one thing you think makes someone 100% mafia and you go further on it than almost anyone, but I don't think you stepped out of line at all that I recall. I'm mostly talking about the postgame chat here where there's no need to 'but what about...' at the end when WBG basically had a Rayntunnel on VE all game

Which is exactly why i said it's not his fault. Like i understand i was probably at least the part of reason why Calix got disinterested in the game (my honest opinion is that Jock never should have in the first place), but at least i didn't comment on basically everything she said and shit on it. Every time VE tried to do something (i remember best the time when i talked with him about Conversion) bugs came in with some good 50 posts to tilt him again, and VE always bites. What gives?

I don't really care if someone gets tunneled or is wrong, that's part of the game, but i also don't really like being called something i didn't do, especially when he himself and definitely HF (on D2) were far far "worse" in said same activity.



What?

you tunneled iGrok D2.

i mean you shut down basically everything else and tunneled iGrok.


I think you should reread though cos all I did was make 2 cases on igrok and then try and get him to answer some basic questions so I could reevaluate but he didn't answer. If deadline was actually eu time I probably would have switched to artanis because of igrok disappearing at deadline instead of helping. Looked pretty townie.

Also I didn't scum read bc lol :p
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
May 30 2019 07:29 GMT
#5262
Not gonna apologise for trying to get town into a direction by making tunnelled cases when the wagons are like 2/2/3 either :D

Literally everyone just spamming and nobody trying to get people to consolidate. That's the problem the town had all game. Sure, calix could have been mafia d2 and you guys were on her but so what if she was if you can convince nobody to switch? Pointless imo. Town needs help and direction.
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
May 30 2019 07:29 GMT
#5263
On May 30 2019 16:26 Holyflare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 30 2019 16:24 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On May 30 2019 16:23 Holyflare wrote:
On May 30 2019 15:37 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On May 30 2019 15:25 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
On May 30 2019 15:22 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On May 30 2019 15:19 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
On May 30 2019 15:16 raynpelikoneet wrote:
And what did i do that was bad?

You have a very different set of values as to what is important as well as what is offensive and what isn't compared to most players on the site. You know that, Joni. It often creates friction where there really is no need. The community is small enough as is and I'd prefer we all try and get along, lest it becomes impossible to have more games.

Well then please, you, tell me where i was over the line offensive in this game because i cant see it?

I don't think you've crossed the line this game at least for me. They way you play can definitely ruffle some feathers in that you get tunneled on one thing you think makes someone 100% mafia and you go further on it than almost anyone, but I don't think you stepped out of line at all that I recall. I'm mostly talking about the postgame chat here where there's no need to 'but what about...' at the end when WBG basically had a Rayntunnel on VE all game

Which is exactly why i said it's not his fault. Like i understand i was probably at least the part of reason why Calix got disinterested in the game (my honest opinion is that Jock never should have in the first place), but at least i didn't comment on basically everything she said and shit on it. Every time VE tried to do something (i remember best the time when i talked with him about Conversion) bugs came in with some good 50 posts to tilt him again, and VE always bites. What gives?

I don't really care if someone gets tunneled or is wrong, that's part of the game, but i also don't really like being called something i didn't do, especially when he himself and definitely HF (on D2) were far far "worse" in said same activity.



What?

you tunneled iGrok D2.

i mean you shut down basically everything else and tunneled iGrok.


I think you should reread though cos all I did was make 2 cases on igrok and then try and get him to answer some basic questions so I could reevaluate but he didn't answer. If deadline was actually eu time I probably would have switched to artanis because of igrok disappearing at deadline instead of helping. Looked pretty townie.

Also I didn't scum read bc lol :p

That's true. I am not blaming you. You did the same thing me, Koshi and bugs did.

Idk what is that bc part?
table for two on a tv tray
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
May 30 2019 07:39 GMT
#5264
Before i left i thought if i get Koshi and VE onboard there is a chance other people switch to Calix aswell.
table for two on a tv tray
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12973 Posts
May 30 2019 07:43 GMT
#5265
Was there anyone that registered that me/disfo wouldn't make sense due to me leaving him off my list or was that completely ineffective? D:
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
May 30 2019 07:44 GMT
#5266
Completely ineffective :D Think I missed someone off my list at some point too
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
May 30 2019 07:46 GMT
#5267
On May 30 2019 16:43 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Was there anyone that registered that me/disfo wouldn't make sense due to me leaving him off my list or was that completely ineffective? D:

idk, i didn't register it. I thought you're prolly not scum because you didn't seem like you tried to survive on D2 vs you just giving reads as prolly dying townie. You fooled me there. Like i said in obs i blame myself for not telling Koshi why disfo is mafia (not that it would have mattered in the end though), i also got another thing on disfo but since it's irrelevant now i am not gonna say it.
table for two on a tv tray
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
May 30 2019 07:49 GMT
#5268
Sorry to Calix for everything. It was bad. Sorry.

Thx hosts for game.
Wp mafia.


I'll put myself on a 3 game ban for the spam and bullshit this game. I have no excuse for playing like this and I should be old enough to know even annoyuing 1 or more persons is not a good way to play.
Somehow I just though, fuck it, lets do it.

In my hiatus I will learn myself to treat my mafia reads with a decent level of respect and not pester them out of the game.

Ahhhh. I suck.

Sry.
I had a good night of sleep.
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
May 30 2019 07:51 GMT
#5269
On May 26 2019 05:55 Calix wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 26 2019 05:54 raynpelikoneet wrote:
calix always mafia, igrok only if calix is


>Calix 100% mafia
>iGrok only mafia if Calix is
>since Calix is confirmed mafia, iGrok is therefore mafia in rayn's eyes
>doesn't vote for iGrok to ensure Artanis doesn't die even though from rayn's POV iGrok is mafia

How do logic?

idk if this needs some explanation, it shouldn't.
it makes me see red always.
table for two on a tv tray
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12973 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-05-30 08:06:16
May 30 2019 08:04 GMT
#5270
On May 30 2019 16:46 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 30 2019 16:43 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Was there anyone that registered that me/disfo wouldn't make sense due to me leaving him off my list or was that completely ineffective? D:

idk, i didn't register it. I thought you're prolly not scum because you didn't seem like you tried to survive on D2 vs you just giving reads as prolly dying townie. You fooled me there. Like i said in obs i blame myself for not telling Koshi why disfo is mafia (not that it would have mattered in the end though), i also got another thing on disfo but since it's irrelevant now i am not gonna say it.

That's funny because I'd probably appear more mafia like as town this game :D I care much more about survival as town then as mafia. I think tonewise people familiar to me should've been able to catch me. I know VE was on my trail numerous times for this reason.

I'd be making posts like "fuck you guys I'm clearly town, look at X, I'd never do this as mafia." and get mad, but there really wasn't a lot of emotion in my posts.
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
May 30 2019 08:10 GMT
#5271
That's true. I made a mistake.
table for two on a tv tray
disformation
Profile Joined July 2009
Germany8352 Posts
May 30 2019 08:17 GMT
#5272
On May 30 2019 16:46 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 30 2019 16:43 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Was there anyone that registered that me/disfo wouldn't make sense due to me leaving him off my list or was that completely ineffective? D:

idk, i didn't register it. I thought you're prolly not scum because you didn't seem like you tried to survive on D2 vs you just giving reads as prolly dying townie. You fooled me there. Like i said in obs i blame myself for not telling Koshi why disfo is mafia (not that it would have mattered in the end though), i also got another thing on disfo but since it's irrelevant now i am not gonna say it.

mean!
though tbh i prolly played decent/mediocre, so lots of things i could have done better imo.
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12973 Posts
May 30 2019 08:20 GMT
#5273
On May 30 2019 17:17 disformation wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 30 2019 16:46 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On May 30 2019 16:43 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Was there anyone that registered that me/disfo wouldn't make sense due to me leaving him off my list or was that completely ineffective? D:

idk, i didn't register it. I thought you're prolly not scum because you didn't seem like you tried to survive on D2 vs you just giving reads as prolly dying townie. You fooled me there. Like i said in obs i blame myself for not telling Koshi why disfo is mafia (not that it would have mattered in the end though), i also got another thing on disfo but since it's irrelevant now i am not gonna say it.

mean!
though tbh i prolly played decent/mediocre, so lots of things i could have done better imo.

This is true for everyone in almost every game. You played a great game imo, stayed very active and waffled your ass off like a true town disfo.
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
May 30 2019 08:26 GMT
#5274
Maybe once we can have a game where townies don't modkill themselves so we can actually have the amount of mislynches described in OP.
table for two on a tv tray
disformation
Profile Joined July 2009
Germany8352 Posts
May 30 2019 08:34 GMT
#5275
On May 30 2019 17:26 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Maybe once we can have a game where townies don't modkill themselves so we can actually have the amount of mislynches described in OP.

yeah i think without the modkills it would have been way harder for us to win.
think we would have need at least 1 more ml? wouldnt have been easy.
BloodyC0bbler
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
Canada7876 Posts
May 30 2019 08:39 GMT
#5276
Bugs just needed to give me a gun and not get modkilled
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
May 30 2019 08:39 GMT
#5277
On May 30 2019 17:34 disformation wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 30 2019 17:26 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Maybe once we can have a game where townies don't modkill themselves so we can actually have the amount of mislynches described in OP.

yeah i think without the modkills it would have been way harder for us to win.
think we would have need at least 1 more ml? wouldnt have been easy.

depends on where the shot went since bugs' gun would have gone out. idk who would have been lynched, VE based on HF & bugs in obs.
table for two on a tv tray
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12973 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-05-30 08:51:33
May 30 2019 08:49 GMT
#5278
in a world without modkills, it's 9-3 going into N2.
WBG gives BC gun.
We shoot Rayn.
8-3, iGrok gets lynched
7-3 -> I get shot, HF gets maf shot
6-2 -> Calix lynch? -> 5-2
We shoot Koshi/WBG/BC-> 4-2 with 2 confirmed town in BC/WBG/Koshi and practically confirmed town Jock. Lynchpool of Conv/Disfo/VE.
Would be p hard.
disformation
Profile Joined July 2009
Germany8352 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-05-30 08:56:38
May 30 2019 08:55 GMT
#5279
think bugs tried to give the gun to jock.
but yeah would have depended on the shot

edit:
also again big thanks to the hosts.
wherebugsgo
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Japan10647 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-05-30 09:05:00
May 30 2019 09:01 GMT
#5280
On May 30 2019 17:39 BloodyC0bbler wrote:
Bugs just needed to give me a gun and not get modkilled


actually I tried to change my night action to send it to you but I believe it was 10 minutes before I got modkilled and they weren't counting my night action regardless

I think of all the mistakes I made, fearing sending my gun to a mafia on n1 was the biggest. I should've given it to Calix like I planned on n1 and talked out the game with her because she was the only one who seemed to be willing to cooperate with people.

Like really she was the best player for town in this game, and I'd say you weren't far behind.

BTW I flipped my read on you so so so many times and that was a huge mistake on my part because I had a strong day 1 townread probably 24-48 hours into the game on you. Didn't mean to ignore you at all, just was overwhelmed with too many posts.

I'm about to brace myself to get modkilled postgame:

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Date: 5/27/19 04:48
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