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On May 26 2019 17:54 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Honestly shooting me may be best tbh, even if just to get Koshi/Jock to stop tunneling me and re-eval.

On May 26 2019 17:58 wherebugsgo wrote:


no, you're not scum.

HF, VE, and BC are the scumteam.

On May 26 2019 18:03 Artanis[Xp] wrote:

I really don't think so, but if you're right I don't see how you can lynch them when Jock/Koshi/Rayn are much more interested in Me/Calix. HF is also right that people need to realize it was a town/town day. Also, please look into disfo and tell me what you see.

On May 26 2019 17:54 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Honestly shooting me may be best tbh, even if just to get Koshi/Jock to stop tunneling me and re-eval.

On May 21 2019 11:30 ruXxar wrote:
Bugs sounding like a broken record and repeating yourself ad nauseam doesnt make the genie pop out of bottle and make your wish of me being mafia come true.

It does however make me think youre just a dumb town tunneling. Unless youre scum buddy with calix trying to deflect his lynch(which i find unlikely after your call out post), youre just stuck in the typical town ego trap of mafia read confirmation bias. Your ego wont allow you to back down from this lynch now that youve put so much into it.
I see no point why you as mafia would keep pushing me at this point.
Thats fine, i get it, ive been there. Ill just ignore you from now on as youre very clearly too deep in the hole to think rationally any longer.

I do want to bring attention to the huge momentum swing we’ve had in activity from certain players.
The beginning of the game was a big shitshow dominated by the presence of rayn and hf. Both of which have gone either completely silent(rayn) or currently do not give a shit(hf)

Rayn really outed himself in a dumb way that i dont think mafia would do. He took a what i would consider big gamble by goung full retard. He was on the chopping block for a while but made it out alive. Hes very likely town at this point.

Hf on the other hand, is currently playing a masterful scum game. Hes controlling his thread presence well, but has basically taken no hard scum stances on anyone. Hes wobbling and flaky in his reads and he refuses to take a stance on the main wagons by either defending or pushing them (calix and me).
Lately he seems very content with where the thread is heading and is very indifferent to the outcome of this lynch, despite claiming that i was not scum earlier and refusing to make up a fresh opinion.
I see no real motivation behind his actions besides his content in letting this lynch play out.
HF reeks of scum and is almost certain to flip mafia at this point, summing up the development of his thread interaction, lack of real motivation and indifference to the current situation.

Tldr:

Bugs is dumbo town.
Rayn is town.
HF is mafia.

##vote holyflare

On May 26 2019 06:01 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Alright, right now I think it might be iGrok/Disfo/?, with the ? being one of Rayn/BC/Maybe Calix. Jock/Conversion/WBG/HF/VE are never mafia. Koshi's claim should resolve itself.

Peace.

On May 26 2019 14:44 wherebugsgo wrote:
Alright, since everyone's asleep except me let me dump my thoughts and get opinions before I do my Sunday reflection time in time for the day to start again on Monday.

We have 3 confirmed townies if no one else claims blue:

koshi
rayn
wherebugsgo

No point in me waiting for the EON to post this now because I don't see any evidence rayn or koshi are fake claiming here and the flip was not another blue as I was suspecting, so Koshi's hit claim is 100% legit unless we have a jailer come forward later in the game. I'm:

gunsmith

that's how my role appears, even though it's Gunsmith in the OP.
Important thing to know about my role: I know whether I was roleblocked on n1 because I can check whether I have a gun after the night if I've tried to send the gun to someone. I don't have my gun anymore and so my send on n1 was successful.

to the person who received my gun on n1: Shoot VE tonight.

Now that's over with, here's my remaining thoughts:

There are 3 scum in these players:
VE/BC/HF/Calix/disformation/Artanis

That's currently the order I'd kill them, left to right.

VisceraEyes he's dead tonight unless I happened to give my gun to a scum n1. Highly doubt that though

BloodyC0bbler - very likely to be scum with VE because he's been passing on reading a lot of players, especially VE in particular. Really bad posts today. Raging on Koshi getting shot, bad play, etc. smells like he's genuinely tired of this game but it looks a lot worse to me now because unlike last game he hasn't actively helped me as much as I'd expect him to, and I think his reads are trash. He also took no stance on me vs VE and given the amount of time and number of posts I've made, it's unacceptable that he still townreads VE. I personally believe he needs to die tomorrow.

HolyFlare pretty likely to be scum here too. Given the events of the game and now that we know rayn and Koshi are town, I'll leave it to both of them to decide between HF/Calix/BC. Both ruxxar and iGrok thought he was scum and it's honestly not terribly unlikely that HF is scum given how chaotic this town has been. Even if all of the scumteam options here are disgusting like VE/BC/HF or VE/BC/Calix or (less likely IMO) VE/Calix/HF we can still easily win here.

Highly likely town
Jockmcplop - you can do this. Look at my reads but also trust your own as it gets later in the game.
Conversion - highly doubt you're scum here. iGrok saw the same thing I did on you, and so did Calix.

Townish but on the POE list:
Calix - I believe you're town but you're part of the POE list now because rayn and koshi are confirmed town and it's confirmed that koshi was shot. If you're town your job will be to figure out the one scum between HF/disfo/artanis, with a possibility of conversion, I believe. However you're probably the best lynch after HF if he flips town because you obviously would have a huge motivation to shoot Koshi, and if you're on a team with VE that would be an obvious bus opportunity as well. Sorry.
Artanis I gave you quite a pass on d2. You looked a lot better than BC to me. You also scumread BC. I actually see some of the anger tone appearing on BC so I think the meta defense case was bad (and this makes HF look way worse as well) especially because if BC is scum here he's playing with VE, and if HF is scum with him then the defense on BC wasn't real. However you didn't really agree with me on VE so that's a minus in my book on you. Once VE flips red on the daypost I hope you can pull out a lynch of BC or HF tomorrow without getting mislynched if you are indeed town here.
disformation - I believe you're town as well but at this point I don't remember exactly why. You're my least certain read here and you need to start taking really hard stances on which pair of scum teammates VE has, otherwise you might be lynchbait.

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On May 26 2019 18:27 Koshi wrote:

WBG saw the light????

I'm:

gunsmith

that's how my role appears, even though it's Gunsmith in the OP.

On May 26 2019 18:29 Holyflare wrote:
You should be modkilled bugs.

On May 26 2019 18:30 Holyflare wrote:
Like now I know your claim is legit because:



you talked about your host given role pm and how it was formatted and it's just like mine so you will never ever be lynched by me or campaigned for being mafia

On May 26 2019 18:36 wherebugsgo wrote:


I mean, I didn't quote the PM at all? That's literally how my role appears, I'm going to claim it as I received it, and state that it does not match what's in the OP because that's the truth.

Like, I didn't believe Koshi's roleclaim partly because it was bolded and in blue and that does not match what was clarified publically in this thread.

On May 26 2019 18:38 Holyflare wrote:


Where does it appear like this?