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On May 26 2019 15:22 BloodyC0bbler wrote:
My read on igrok was correct while you all yelled at me bro. Sure there's a chance I'm wrong on Artanis. I'll agree to that fully. However you just said you offed someone you thought was town. Like =/
Do you not understand my frustration? Even if my scum read a are wrong don't you get it?
umm nope cause you just got basic thread events wrong and you did not lift a finger to help me save iGrok. You could've tried convincing me to move my vote or why Artanis was scum there over iGrok but you didn't do that
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On May 26 2019 15:23 wherebugsgo wrote:Show nested quote +On May 26 2019 15:22 BloodyC0bbler wrote:
My read on igrok was correct while you all yelled at me bro. Sure there's a chance I'm wrong on Artanis. I'll agree to that fully. However you just said you offed someone you thought was town. Like =/
Do you not understand my frustration? Even if my scum read a are wrong don't you get it? umm nope cause you just got basic thread events wrong and you did not lift a finger to help me save iGrok. You could've tried convincing me to move my vote or why Artanis was scum there over iGrok but you didn't do that
WBG you didn't try to save iGrock though. You were telling people to vote for him until no-one was left in the thread. Don't pull that shit.
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On May 26 2019 15:21 Jockmcplop wrote:Show nested quote +On May 26 2019 15:18 wherebugsgo wrote:
also it's amazing that you're calling HF town and not me when HF has been confirmed to be wrong on just as many players as me this game:
Jock
iGrok
and his reads on both of you and VE are trash, and multiple players now are scumming him as they've figured out he's not town here. Jock finds him scummy, I find him scummy now, rayn finds him scummy, Koshi finds him scummy, Calix finds it weird that he mostly posts scummy shit about you but concludes you're town, iGrok found him scummy, ruxxar found him scummy
HF is scum bro. And if you can't see that, then you're probably scum with him. I do think he's scum. Absolutely. Kill him with fire. BUT Isn't it just so fucking tl.net mafia to follow hf into a mislynch on day 2 and then end up killing town hf for it on N2/D3? That just kinda seems like the sorta thing we would do as town. Still... Kill him to death.
nah his defense of both BC and VE is just unacceptable
He lists like 50 things in that giant post that are on the whole scummy and then concludes town BC. It just comes out of nowhere
BC was also raging at koshi being shot and I 100% believe he'd be mad here that his team could've gotten away with so much more if koshi died on n1 rather than reaching this situation where we now have essentially 4-5 confirmed townies
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ONE GUY TRIED TO SAVE iGROCK DIDN'T HE BUT NO-ONE WAS UP FOR IT INCLUDING YOU?!
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On May 26 2019 15:24 Jockmcplop wrote:Show nested quote +On May 26 2019 15:23 wherebugsgo wrote:On May 26 2019 15:22 BloodyC0bbler wrote:
My read on igrok was correct while you all yelled at me bro. Sure there's a chance I'm wrong on Artanis. I'll agree to that fully. However you just said you offed someone you thought was town. Like =/
Do you not understand my frustration? Even if my scum read a are wrong don't you get it? umm nope cause you just got basic thread events wrong and you did not lift a finger to help me save iGrok. You could've tried convincing me to move my vote or why Artanis was scum there over iGrok but you didn't do that WBG you didn't try to save iGrock though. You were telling people to vote for him until no-one was left in the thread. Don't pull that shit.
I did try to save him, just no one wanted to vote VE.
I wanted to vote VE and no one else yesterday but HF strong-armed us into iGrok and it was an objectively good case. iGrok fucked off and did nothing the last two hours when I was pleading with him to just read what I wrote on VE and Artanis.
Like there was 0 chance I would kill Artanis over iGrok, and if I saved iGrok by killing Artanis it would look way worse as iGrok is 100x the lynchbait that Artanis is
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On May 26 2019 15:25 Jockmcplop wrote:
ONE GUY TRIED TO SAVE iGROCK DIDN'T HE BUT NO-ONE WAS UP FOR IT INCLUDING YOU?!
look if it's 6 votes on iGrok and 5 votes on Artanis
and I believe Artanis is townier than iGrok
Why would I waste my vote there? Literally no one was engaging me on VE.
I suppose I could've used my confirmed towniness more but I was getting buried in the thread and I didn't want to make the atmosphere even worse. Also given that I controlled the lynch on day 1 I also didn't want to just piss everyone off and go ham when we had a fair amount of agreement that iGrok looked really bad.
I tried all day to convince HF and it was just going nowhere.
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like should I have made the call to scumread HF there??? idk man. He fake claimed and everything right when I went to sleep too, so that just sealed the deal even more.
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We kill hf as fast as possible.
You gave a gun to a townie?
Will they kill hf?
I'd like you explain as if to a child how you koshi's claim is good since iGrock died. I'm not following the PoE. Its like the most important thing I don't know how to do.. PoE stuff. My brain can't figure out how you lot are all figuring it out.
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[quote]1. To BC: do you agree with the case on iGrok?
I see some merit in it, but I also feel like its somewhat fabricated. Everything of Igrok I see comes off as townish for the most part. My biggest issue is that Koshi is hard town reading him.
2. To both of you: can you again provide a list of all your reads?
Town
BC
Bugs
VE(i know right)
Null to lean town
HF
Rayn
Igrok
Jock
Null to Lean Mafia
Koshi
Conversion
Mafia
Artanis
Calix
Disinformation
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why the hell does he nullread Jock, conversion, Koshi, rayn, AND HF?
Like this is possibly the whackiest list any player has made in the entire game
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On May 26 2019 15:35 Jockmcplop wrote:
I'd like you explain as if to a child how you koshi's claim is good since iGrock died. I'm not following the PoE. Its like the most important thing I don't know how to do.. PoE stuff. My brain can't figure out how you lot are all figuring it out.
Forget this i just read you big post a couple of pages back and it makes sense.
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EBWOP:
1. To BC: do you agree with the case on iGrok?
I see some merit in it, but I also feel like its somewhat fabricated. Everything of Igrok I see comes off as townish for the most part. My biggest issue is that Koshi is hard town reading him.
2. To both of you: can you again provide a list of all your reads?
Town
BC
Bugs
VE(i know right)
Null to lean town
HF
Rayn
Igrok
Jock
Null to Lean Mafia
Koshi
Conversion
Mafia
Artanis
Calix
Disinformation
why the hell does he nullread Jock, conversion, Koshi, rayn, AND HF?
Like this is possibly the whackiest list any player has made in the entire game.
On May 26 2019 15:35 Jockmcplop wrote:
We kill hf as fast as possible.
You gave a gun to a townie?
Will they kill hf?
I'd like you explain as if to a child how you koshi's claim is good since iGrock died. I'm not following the PoE. Its like the most important thing I don't know how to do.. PoE stuff. My brain can't figure out how you lot are all figuring it out.
1. Yes, I'm 99.99% certain a townie has my gun.
2. Unless a jailer comes forward, Koshi is a confirmed veteran because there was no death on n1.
3. Fairly certain anyone except BC and VE would kill HF at this point, and the person I gave my gun to is no different I think. Not sure anyone would shoot VE besides me though so just putting it out there that he is my #1 choice for a shot. And he just asked for jailers to be aimed at himself, HF, rayn, and koshi, ignoring the fact that I'm also confirmed town here (in fact he aimed vigis at me???)
4. The POE logic is fairly simple.
HF didn't listen to any good arguments about why iGrok was town and strongarmed us into the lynch. I thought iGrok had a strong chance of flipping jailer, which is why I initially scummed both rayn and koshi, but when iGrok did not flip jailer I knew it was much less likely there is one. If a jailer ever comes forward, we kill Koshi, but at this point I'm 99.99% sure there is no jailer. Since none of the blue claims have been counterclaimed, all 3 of myself, Koshi, and rayn are confirmed town.
From there, I am sure on nothing else this game except that VE is scum. His scum list proves it. He's scum with BC, who lists Artanis, Calix, and disfo as the scumteam with a maybe? on HF. VE himself lists me (??????) BC Calix artanis, and who the fuck knows what HF is going to dump in the thread.
VE and BC are literally the only two players left that hard read HF as town. They also all hard read each other as town, though VE is distancing himself from BC now, and there is no reason for any of them to have those reads on each other. Their reads put together make the least sense in the game. Like I don't think anyone else except BC includes disfo, Calix, and Artanis together as top 3 candidates for being scum.
However assuming one of them is wrong, the next likeliest candidate is probably Calix, because she would have had a strong motivation to kill Koshi on n1.
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Right I'm all in.
Probably not going to be in the thread much today, but I say that every day and then I'm here anyway. Make them see, Bugs.
If hf isn't scum he's the mislynch king.
But he is scum.
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Quick note to everyone else:
Just because hf pretends he knowingly led us into a mislynch (we all know he'll do this) to solve the game it doesn't mean you should listen to a single word he says at all.
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On May 26 2019 15:54 Jockmcplop wrote:
Right I'm all in.
Probably not going to be in the thread much today, but I say that every day and then I'm here anyway. Make them see, Bugs.
If hf isn't scum he's the mislynch king.
But he is scum.
yeah whichever two of me, rayn, and koshi are alive will lead town and vote together. Like we are guaranteed to vote as a block. And I think if HF is alive he becomes the lynch because all 3 of us agree he is scum.
I think if we lynch in this order:
HF/BC/Calix/Artanis
We win the game. Like, disformation, conversion, etc. are not listed by enough players for them to be scum here, it just doesn't make sense, and their reads are perfectly fine and I townread them otherwise.
Both VE and BC's read lists make 0 sense and due to associations on HF, who we all seem to think is scum, they're probably all scum together. No other trio has as many associations where all 3 share the same weirdass reads.
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On May 26 2019 16:00 wherebugsgo wrote:Show nested quote +On May 26 2019 15:54 Jockmcplop wrote:
Right I'm all in.
Probably not going to be in the thread much today, but I say that every day and then I'm here anyway. Make them see, Bugs.
If hf isn't scum he's the mislynch king.
But he is scum. yeah whichever two of me, rayn, and koshi are alive will lead town and vote together. Like we are guaranteed to vote as a block. And I think if HF is alive he becomes the lynch because all 3 of us agree he is scum. I think if we lynch in this order: HF/BC/Calix/Artanis We win the game. Like, disformation, conversion, etc. are not listed by enough players for them to be scum here, it just doesn't make sense, and their reads are perfectly fine and I townread them otherwise. Both VE and BC's read lists make 0 sense and due to associations on HF, who we all seem to think is scum, they're probably all scum together. No other trio has as many associations where all 3 share the same weirdass reads.
HF/BC/Calix/Artanis is assuming VE dies tonight of course. If HF dies tonight then it's VE/BC/Calix/Artanis whatever.
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On May 26 2019 16:01 wherebugsgo wrote:Show nested quote +On May 26 2019 16:00 wherebugsgo wrote:On May 26 2019 15:54 Jockmcplop wrote:
Right I'm all in.
Probably not going to be in the thread much today, but I say that every day and then I'm here anyway. Make them see, Bugs.
If hf isn't scum he's the mislynch king.
But he is scum. yeah whichever two of me, rayn, and koshi are alive will lead town and vote together. Like we are guaranteed to vote as a block. And I think if HF is alive he becomes the lynch because all 3 of us agree he is scum. I think if we lynch in this order: HF/BC/Calix/Artanis We win the game. Like, disformation, conversion, etc. are not listed by enough players for them to be scum here, it just doesn't make sense, and their reads are perfectly fine and I townread them otherwise. Both VE and BC's read lists make 0 sense and due to associations on HF, who we all seem to think is scum, they're probably all scum together. No other trio has as many associations where all 3 share the same weirdass reads. HF/BC/Calix/Artanis is assuming VE dies tonight of course. If HF dies tonight then it's VE/BC/Calix/Artanis whatever.
THIS IS THE PLAN.
SO IT IS SAID.
SO IT WILL BE DONE.
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On May 26 2019 15:15 wherebugsgo wrote:Show nested quote +On May 26 2019 15:13 BloodyC0bbler wrote:
And you've been wrong on ruxxar (so was i)
You were wrong on igrok
You are wrong about me.
So given I don't trust your reads based on that perhaps mine are more realistic.
I was not wrong on iGrok, I thought he was going to flip jailkeeper for like 80% of yesterday. I at least got the alignment right. I mended my reads with HF because I thought we needed to cooperate more. He didn't listen to me.
Imagine calling the guy town and voting him but then scum reading the guy that wrote a case on him :D
That's you buddy.
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On May 26 2019 16:14 Holyflare wrote:Show nested quote +On May 26 2019 15:15 wherebugsgo wrote:On May 26 2019 15:13 BloodyC0bbler wrote:
And you've been wrong on ruxxar (so was i)
You were wrong on igrok
You are wrong about me.
So given I don't trust your reads based on that perhaps mine are more realistic.
I was not wrong on iGrok, I thought he was going to flip jailkeeper for like 80% of yesterday. I at least got the alignment right. I mended my reads with HF because I thought we needed to cooperate more. He didn't listen to me. Imagine calling the guy town and voting him but then scum reading the guy that wrote a case on him :D That's you buddy.
I'm confirmed town. You're probably getting shot in the dick tonight anyway.
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I don't think you are. Its extremely likely you have a mafia vig and will try and claim a shot on me.
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On May 26 2019 16:17 Holyflare wrote:
I don't think you are. Its extremely likely you have a mafia vig and will try and claim a shot on me.
if I had a mafia vig I would have killed two people N1.
I'm not a fucking scrublord at scum like you
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