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Please don't try to meta read me guys. I'm literally trying all different things in different games for a reason. I'm experimenting because some things that I'm trying are failing horribly and some other things are working. You won't be able to meta read me from 3 games where I instadied in two of them and was mafia in the the other.
Obviously I needed to change my town play?!?!?
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On May 20 2019 15:11 wherebugsgo wrote:Show nested quote +On May 20 2019 15:07 Jockmcplop wrote:On May 20 2019 08:02 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I will predict Jockmcplop never arrives anymore to this thread.
P.S. i am awake from 7am until 11pm. Fuck you man. I'm here ask anything you want. I'm also grumpy in the mornings. Would you kill ruxxar? If no, why not? What about disformation and Calix? Those are the three options I am presenting today, and if you want my rationale you can check my previous posts. We aren’t killing rayn day 1.
I can't figure out why you would want to kill ruxxar. Looking through your filter there's a post where you say its because of something he said but didn't quote it. I really, genuinely don't have time to go ook it up in the thread but man I can't see anything that really jumps out at me as scummy. Yet.
Disinformation:
I don't really like his posting. Its a little scummy to pick on reads that other people are making without making any of your own so he is certainly in the scumlean pile.
Calix
That first post was horrible. Later on he is posting things that make a little bit of sense.
I'm interested in the VE/rayn setup idea, although I'm also open to that literally just being VE knowing that rayn would shit up the thread because he always does this.
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##unvote
Rayn case is stupid and he shouldn't be confident in it but that's not scummy in itself. It just means he's a terrible town player or possibly overacting on his tenuous read because he's scum, but that waits to be seen.
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Jock, here:
On May 20 2019 10:44 wherebugsgo wrote:man I hate when I'm timeboxed for decisions. I've got one I've got to make before the 27th and I'd rather just punt it for 6 months but people are impatient /rl rant Show nested quote +On May 20 2019 09:45 VisceraEyes wrote:On May 20 2019 08:59 wherebugsgo wrote:
I’ve got a meeting in 3 minutes.
VE, BC while I’m gone sheep me on ruxxar or explain why you don’t want to
Also define who’s a thread skimmer/lurker this game and rank them on kill priority I'm gonna pass on that one. A) You've given literally no reasoning that I can see for your vote aside from "for that one post alone" which, filtering you in isolation, I can't even see which it is. So... B) I filtered ruxxar and found that his posting seems internally consistent, and relatively comprehensive as far as "what you should know about me" posts go. It feels this side of townie to me. I'm not going to rank lurkers on kill priority, that's the most ridiculous thing I've ever heard what are you even fucking doing? you're right, I didn't post reasons for ruxxar, mostly because I put too much faith in people actually going back to read his only post of any real substance and it being self-explanatory from his entrance. It's quite simple: Show nested quote +On May 20 2019 04:47 ruXxar wrote:
sup guys, long time no see. skimmed through the thread, dont remember all the specifics.
i dont wanna lynch the active people, cause they make the game fun.
- jockmcplop is top town, he speaks from his heart.
- hf looks townie, i love when he gets riled up.
- VE seems aight, could be deviously smart mafia.
- rayn attacking jockmcplop is dumb, and his fumbling to explain his first post was meh, dont make him mafia tho.
- bugs looks aigh tish.
- i dont like calix. seem stiff and too sure of himself. looks like hes posting with perferct information.
already certain of his opinons, and just tries to find the best angle to defend them.
##Vote calix 3 things that stand out: 1. Doesn't want to lynch active people but isn't actively involved either. In fact there's almost a hidden implication that ruxxar doesn't intend to be active in that statement 2. First 5 bullets come off as "I need to post some reads so I can continue skating by so let me summarize some basics and say things others probably would agree with" 3. Calix vote justification looks forced and justification for the sake of justification. When Calix responded by saying "yeah well, it looks like that way because I'm sheeping" ruxxar's only response was to concede that the pronouns were wrong.
The tl;dr is that my read is on the basis of ruxxar’s entrance post plus his reaction to the resistance that Calix put up.
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On May 20 2019 15:25 wherebugsgo wrote:Jock, here: Show nested quote +On May 20 2019 10:44 wherebugsgo wrote:man I hate when I'm timeboxed for decisions. I've got one I've got to make before the 27th and I'd rather just punt it for 6 months but people are impatient /rl rant On May 20 2019 09:45 VisceraEyes wrote:On May 20 2019 08:59 wherebugsgo wrote:
I’ve got a meeting in 3 minutes.
VE, BC while I’m gone sheep me on ruxxar or explain why you don’t want to
Also define who’s a thread skimmer/lurker this game and rank them on kill priority I'm gonna pass on that one. A) You've given literally no reasoning that I can see for your vote aside from "for that one post alone" which, filtering you in isolation, I can't even see which it is. So... B) I filtered ruxxar and found that his posting seems internally consistent, and relatively comprehensive as far as "what you should know about me" posts go. It feels this side of townie to me. I'm not going to rank lurkers on kill priority, that's the most ridiculous thing I've ever heard what are you even fucking doing? you're right, I didn't post reasons for ruxxar, mostly because I put too much faith in people actually going back to read his only post of any real substance and it being self-explanatory from his entrance. It's quite simple: On May 20 2019 04:47 ruXxar wrote:
sup guys, long time no see. skimmed through the thread, dont remember all the specifics.
i dont wanna lynch the active people, cause they make the game fun.
- jockmcplop is top town, he speaks from his heart.
- hf looks townie, i love when he gets riled up.
- VE seems aight, could be deviously smart mafia.
- rayn attacking jockmcplop is dumb, and his fumbling to explain his first post was meh, dont make him mafia tho.
- bugs looks aigh tish.
- i dont like calix. seem stiff and too sure of himself. looks like hes posting with perferct information.
already certain of his opinons, and just tries to find the best angle to defend them.
##Vote calix 3 things that stand out: 1. Doesn't want to lynch active people but isn't actively involved either. In fact there's almost a hidden implication that ruxxar doesn't intend to be active in that statement 2. First 5 bullets come off as "I need to post some reads so I can continue skating by so let me summarize some basics and say things others probably would agree with" 3. Calix vote justification looks forced and justification for the sake of justification. When Calix responded by saying "yeah well, it looks like that way because I'm sheeping" ruxxar's only response was to concede that the pronouns were wrong. The tl;dr is that my read is on the basis of ruxxar’s entrance post plus his reaction to the resistance that Calix put up.
OK
Yeah.
Like I don't think its the scummiest thing I've seen in the game but you have got a point.
I might be down for ruxxar vote. I'm leaving it unvoted for now though lets see what happens with this today.
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On May 20 2019 15:12 Jockmcplop wrote:Show nested quote +On May 20 2019 08:30 Conversion wrote:On May 20 2019 06:39 disformation wrote:On May 20 2019 06:30 BloodyC0bbler wrote:
Hi disinformation. As I see you are here. Answer me!
What do you think of the quote I posted in my bigger post above? dunno if I see the point. rayn comments on some ppl (which dont look scummy to him) and jock asks if anyone looks suspicious to him. I think one would expect rayn to call people scum/mafia (like he is doing now). though. thinking about it, jock kinda ignores that rayn just gave a bunch of reads and says rayn is only defending himself and berating people. which he isnt cause he just gave reads. hmmm... don't think I like that. idk i havent played in a while but this sorta flaky thing is something that’s rather evident (like rayn just mentioned, he doesn’t take a stance really)someone correct me if that’s just how disfo plays, but i dont like pivot posts where someone goes “hmm good point but x” “this is true but y” might be personal bias against posts like that though. i’ll do a meta check once at a computer but i like my read right now WTF this is scummy. So apologetic about his read. And he has played recently - End of the World Mafia..
Bugs what do you think of this.
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For those trying to meta read me, go the obs from the last game. I explicitly stated that I was learning alot of reading along with the thread. I saw the wayy bugs and VE were playing and saw that it was working as town and decided I needed to be much more active in the thread and more aggressive with my reads and questions and less reserved in general - hence the change.
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On May 20 2019 15:28 Jockmcplop wrote:Show nested quote +On May 20 2019 15:12 Jockmcplop wrote:On May 20 2019 08:30 Conversion wrote:On May 20 2019 06:39 disformation wrote:On May 20 2019 06:30 BloodyC0bbler wrote:
Hi disinformation. As I see you are here. Answer me!
What do you think of the quote I posted in my bigger post above? dunno if I see the point. rayn comments on some ppl (which dont look scummy to him) and jock asks if anyone looks suspicious to him. I think one would expect rayn to call people scum/mafia (like he is doing now). though. thinking about it, jock kinda ignores that rayn just gave a bunch of reads and says rayn is only defending himself and berating people. which he isnt cause he just gave reads. hmmm... don't think I like that. idk i havent played in a while but this sorta flaky thing is something that’s rather evident (like rayn just mentioned, he doesn’t take a stance really)someone correct me if that’s just how disfo plays, but i dont like pivot posts where someone goes “hmm good point but x” “this is true but y” might be personal bias against posts like that though. i’ll do a meta check once at a computer but i like my read right now WTF this is scummy. So apologetic about his read. And he has played recently - End of the World Mafia.. Bugs what do you think of this.
In so far as that post stuck out to me, I’m in agreement. My problem is that disformation is objectively not a bad lead.
I want to give the two of them more time to see whether that clears itself up and one or both of them post things that make more sense. The scummiest thing that conversion has done is call someone scum for being flaky, in a flaky way. There was the past game point that you pointed out which also stuck out to me but this is less indicative, IMO.
Btw I’m actually so happy you stepped in my town trap because now I’m more confident in my read on you. I looked at conversion’s post history to see if he had any past games after he troll voted HF, to see if he trolls in general. The last game point is one that I let slip to see if someone else would catch it
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On May 20 2019 15:25 wherebugsgo wrote:Jock, here: Show nested quote +On May 20 2019 10:44 wherebugsgo wrote:man I hate when I'm timeboxed for decisions. I've got one I've got to make before the 27th and I'd rather just punt it for 6 months but people are impatient /rl rant On May 20 2019 09:45 VisceraEyes wrote:On May 20 2019 08:59 wherebugsgo wrote:
I’ve got a meeting in 3 minutes.
VE, BC while I’m gone sheep me on ruxxar or explain why you don’t want to
Also define who’s a thread skimmer/lurker this game and rank them on kill priority I'm gonna pass on that one. A) You've given literally no reasoning that I can see for your vote aside from "for that one post alone" which, filtering you in isolation, I can't even see which it is. So... B) I filtered ruxxar and found that his posting seems internally consistent, and relatively comprehensive as far as "what you should know about me" posts go. It feels this side of townie to me. I'm not going to rank lurkers on kill priority, that's the most ridiculous thing I've ever heard what are you even fucking doing? you're right, I didn't post reasons for ruxxar, mostly because I put too much faith in people actually going back to read his only post of any real substance and it being self-explanatory from his entrance. It's quite simple: On May 20 2019 04:47 ruXxar wrote:
sup guys, long time no see. skimmed through the thread, dont remember all the specifics.
i dont wanna lynch the active people, cause they make the game fun.
- jockmcplop is top town, he speaks from his heart.
- hf looks townie, i love when he gets riled up.
- VE seems aight, could be deviously smart mafia.
- rayn attacking jockmcplop is dumb, and his fumbling to explain his first post was meh, dont make him mafia tho.
- bugs looks aigh tish.
- i dont like calix. seem stiff and too sure of himself. looks like hes posting with perferct information.
already certain of his opinons, and just tries to find the best angle to defend them.
##Vote calix 3 things that stand out: 1. Doesn't want to lynch active people but isn't actively involved either. In fact there's almost a hidden implication that ruxxar doesn't intend to be active in that statement 2. First 5 bullets come off as "I need to post some reads so I can continue skating by so let me summarize some basics and say things others probably would agree with" 3. Calix vote justification looks forced and justification for the sake of justification. When Calix responded by saying "yeah well, it looks like that way because I'm sheeping" ruxxar's only response was to concede that the pronouns were wrong. The tl;dr is that my read is on the basis of ruxxar’s entrance post plus his reaction to the resistance that Calix put up.
You dont like my entry post but seem just entirely fine with calix list post.
Of course you do when he calls you town lmao
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Also bugs you gotta turn down the rhetoric and preaching bullshit. Thats scummy af
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I do the same shit when im mafia, playing the “knowitlall good guy mafiiso armchair hunter #1”
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On May 20 2019 15:50 ruXxar wrote:Show nested quote +On May 20 2019 15:25 wherebugsgo wrote:Jock, here: On May 20 2019 10:44 wherebugsgo wrote:man I hate when I'm timeboxed for decisions. I've got one I've got to make before the 27th and I'd rather just punt it for 6 months but people are impatient /rl rant On May 20 2019 09:45 VisceraEyes wrote:On May 20 2019 08:59 wherebugsgo wrote:
I’ve got a meeting in 3 minutes.
VE, BC while I’m gone sheep me on ruxxar or explain why you don’t want to
Also define who’s a thread skimmer/lurker this game and rank them on kill priority I'm gonna pass on that one. A) You've given literally no reasoning that I can see for your vote aside from "for that one post alone" which, filtering you in isolation, I can't even see which it is. So... B) I filtered ruxxar and found that his posting seems internally consistent, and relatively comprehensive as far as "what you should know about me" posts go. It feels this side of townie to me. I'm not going to rank lurkers on kill priority, that's the most ridiculous thing I've ever heard what are you even fucking doing? you're right, I didn't post reasons for ruxxar, mostly because I put too much faith in people actually going back to read his only post of any real substance and it being self-explanatory from his entrance. It's quite simple: On May 20 2019 04:47 ruXxar wrote:
sup guys, long time no see. skimmed through the thread, dont remember all the specifics.
i dont wanna lynch the active people, cause they make the game fun.
- jockmcplop is top town, he speaks from his heart.
- hf looks townie, i love when he gets riled up.
- VE seems aight, could be deviously smart mafia.
- rayn attacking jockmcplop is dumb, and his fumbling to explain his first post was meh, dont make him mafia tho.
- bugs looks aigh tish.
- i dont like calix. seem stiff and too sure of himself. looks like hes posting with perferct information.
already certain of his opinons, and just tries to find the best angle to defend them.
##Vote calix 3 things that stand out: 1. Doesn't want to lynch active people but isn't actively involved either. In fact there's almost a hidden implication that ruxxar doesn't intend to be active in that statement 2. First 5 bullets come off as "I need to post some reads so I can continue skating by so let me summarize some basics and say things others probably would agree with" 3. Calix vote justification looks forced and justification for the sake of justification. When Calix responded by saying "yeah well, it looks like that way because I'm sheeping" ruxxar's only response was to concede that the pronouns were wrong. The tl;dr is that my read is on the basis of ruxxar’s entrance post plus his reaction to the resistance that Calix put up. You dont like my entry post but seem just entirely fine with calix list post. Of course you do when he calls you town lmao
Your reaction to resistance on your vote vs Calix's reaction are pretty worlds apart. Hell, even the posts themselves are pretty different. When someone cites another post as part of their rationale in a way that makes sense, and manage to do this very consistently, I find it less likely they are scum. You didn't do that, did you?
Now, what's odd is that you are calling me out for calling one list post bad, but not the other. You want me to look away from your scumminess at someone else...who according to you, did a very similar thing to you?
Anyway, enough about you. The choices I'm presenting people with that aren't you are disformation and Calix. Given that I think your reason for voting Calix isn't valid, and you just basically said both your post AND Calix's post were scummy, I'd like to hear what you think about disformation.
Failing that, talk to me about conversion's push on disformation.
If you can't do either of those things then I'll narrow the list and recommend everyone just lynch you and you only.
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As for your concerns im not planning on shitting up the thread with a massive barrage of shit posts, i hope you wont mind.
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On May 20 2019 15:55 ruXxar wrote:
I do the same shit when im mafia, playing the “knowitlall good guy mafiiso armchair hunter #1”
to be fair bugs played the same way last game as town
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On May 20 2019 15:55 ruXxar wrote:
I do the same shit when im mafia, playing the “knowitlall good guy mafiiso armchair hunter #1”
Then please go ahead and point out such a post in a past scum game of yours.
It shouldn't be terribly hard for you to do that if you're telling the truth.
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[big[RAYN [/big]come here and talk about your vote for me and I'll tell you why it makes no sense at all, and why the bravado with which you are pretending to support it is offputting (although I can't figure out whether its alignment indicative).
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On May 20 2019 06:30 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On May 19 2019 20:47 Jockmcplop wrote:
Its not really scummy** but its more just funny and interesting to think about rayn saying hello in such a convoluted way.
**(not as scummy WBG townreading hf for no reason though) Show nested quote +On May 19 2019 21:13 Jockmcplop wrote:
##vote: rayn
I just don't like anything you posted so far.[
Lets go over your reasoning for posting that first message.
You thought it would be fun, rather than posting something relevant that makes sense, to post your role but write it wrong by copypasting a previous message and then changing the order of the words? Always mafia right there, even for the most retarded people in this game.
No one else is seeing what you're seeing, ask yourself why that is.
Its only contradictory if you ASSUME that what I was doing when I voted for you was saying 'rayn is scum and we should lynch him'.
Ask yourself if there's another reaosn I could have voted for you.
Like maybe, that your explanation for your original post was ridiculous even if true, and I especially wanted to see more from you, particularly how you would go about finding scum.
There is no contradiction in anything that I posted unless you make the assumption that every single vote is made with the purpose of lynching someone (even early on day 1).
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Right I'm finished with this unless rayn wants to keep bringing it up.
At the moment in my scumlean pile for reasons i've already posted are:
conversion
ruxxar
Calix
Conversion's post is the most obviously scummy thing I have seen so far.
On May 20 2019 08:30 Conversion wrote:Show nested quote +On May 20 2019 06:39 disformation wrote:On May 20 2019 06:30 BloodyC0bbler wrote:
Hi disinformation. As I see you are here. Answer me!
What do you think of the quote I posted in my bigger post above? dunno if I see the point. rayn comments on some ppl (which dont look scummy to him) and jock asks if anyone looks suspicious to him. I think one would expect rayn to call people scum/mafia (like he is doing now). though. thinking about it, jock kinda ignores that rayn just gave a bunch of reads and says rayn is only defending himself and berating people. which he isnt cause he just gave reads. hmmm... don't think I like that. idk i havent played in a while but this sorta flaky thing is something that’s rather evident (like rayn just mentioned, he doesn’t take a stance really) someone correct me if that’s just how disfo plays, but i dont like pivot posts where someone goes “hmm good point but x” “this is true but y” might be personal bias against posts like that though. i’ll do a meta check once at a computer but i like my read right now
That just reads scum. How can it not??
"I think this guy is scum but I haven't played in a while (he has) and also it might just be that I don't like him."
Other people. Come agree with me.
This is so scummy.
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Jock I suggest moving away from rayn and forming opinions on other people. Rayn is a big time sink and the only thing that will change his mind is by playing townie.
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Ah, you're doing that now, excellent 
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