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Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
May 23 2019 16:06 GMT
#2721
You'll hopefully see the old me tomorrow!
disformation
Profile Joined July 2009
Germany8352 Posts
May 23 2019 16:06 GMT
#2722
On May 24 2019 01:02 Holyflare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 24 2019 00:56 Jockmcplop wrote:
I hate to keep harping on how weirdly hf is playing this game buuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuut.....

I'm struggling to find any meta examples of hf's vote landing off one of the major wagons, like ever. Until day 1 of this game.

This might be tunneling but there's so much weird stuff its hard not to get drawn into it,know what i mean?


My dude, I was the leading wagon voter I think when I went to bed. It was 5am when the flip and shenanigans happened. It's normally an eu friendly deadline or at least like 12 to 1am max so I stick around.

I didn't do a fake claim this game because a) I've effectively ruined the last 2 games doing it and people never learn and even lynched me for it twice and b) it was 5am!

I think you're pretty tunnelled

reminds me of the game where you fake claimed a red check on someone as cop.
that was fun.
i was scum though. xD
Jockmcplop
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United Kingdom9755 Posts
May 23 2019 16:07 GMT
#2723
On May 24 2019 01:05 Holyflare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 24 2019 01:04 Jockmcplop wrote:
On May 24 2019 01:02 Holyflare wrote:
On May 24 2019 00:56 Jockmcplop wrote:
I hate to keep harping on how weirdly hf is playing this game buuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuut.....

I'm struggling to find any meta examples of hf's vote landing off one of the major wagons, like ever. Until day 1 of this game.

This might be tunneling but there's so much weird stuff its hard not to get drawn into it,know what i mean?


My dude, I was the leading wagon voter I think when I went to bed. It was 5am when the flip and shenanigans happened. It's normally an eu friendly deadline or at least like 12 to 1am max so I stick around.

I didn't do a fake claim this game because a) I've effectively ruined the last 2 games doing it and people never learn and even lynched me for it twice and b) it was 5am!

I think you're pretty tunnelled


WOuld you get tunnelled if someone who had been playing every single game here in a similar fashion all of a sudden started playing completely differently??
I mean you've admitted that that's what's happening so surely you can understand....
Considering we both agree that you're behaving weirdly surely we can both agree that it all comes down to whether I believe your reasons for it, right?


I don't think I'm playing this game any different to the last game at all?



On May 24 2019 00:56 Holyflare wrote:
The thing about this game is that my early play will be so polarising to a work week that it's like a whole different player. This game is like the last thing on my mind (that's a lie really) but I just pop in and see a post and register it as a post I don't like but my critical evaluation brain is switched off and I'll just blurt out my thoughts quickly.

RIP Meatloaf <3
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
May 23 2019 16:08 GMT
#2724
On May 24 2019 01:07 Jockmcplop wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 24 2019 01:05 Holyflare wrote:
On May 24 2019 01:04 Jockmcplop wrote:
On May 24 2019 01:02 Holyflare wrote:
On May 24 2019 00:56 Jockmcplop wrote:
I hate to keep harping on how weirdly hf is playing this game buuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuut.....

I'm struggling to find any meta examples of hf's vote landing off one of the major wagons, like ever. Until day 1 of this game.

This might be tunneling but there's so much weird stuff its hard not to get drawn into it,know what i mean?


My dude, I was the leading wagon voter I think when I went to bed. It was 5am when the flip and shenanigans happened. It's normally an eu friendly deadline or at least like 12 to 1am max so I stick around.

I didn't do a fake claim this game because a) I've effectively ruined the last 2 games doing it and people never learn and even lynched me for it twice and b) it was 5am!

I think you're pretty tunnelled


WOuld you get tunnelled if someone who had been playing every single game here in a similar fashion all of a sudden started playing completely differently??
I mean you've admitted that that's what's happening so surely you can understand....
Considering we both agree that you're behaving weirdly surely we can both agree that it all comes down to whether I believe your reasons for it, right?


I don't think I'm playing this game any different to the last game at all?



Show nested quote +
On May 24 2019 00:56 Holyflare wrote:
The thing about this game is that my early play will be so polarising to a work week that it's like a whole different player. This game is like the last thing on my mind (that's a lie really) but I just pop in and see a post and register it as a post I don't like but my critical evaluation brain is switched off and I'll just blurt out my thoughts quickly.



Within the game it will be different because I have free time on a weekend. Which is the same as every game. Although last game I was buying a house so it was similar the whole time.
Jockmcplop
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United Kingdom9755 Posts
May 23 2019 16:08 GMT
#2725
If everyone tells me I'm being stupid here I'll shut up about it
RIP Meatloaf <3
Jockmcplop
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United Kingdom9755 Posts
May 23 2019 16:10 GMT
#2726
In all honesty though hf I don't feel like your fakeclaiming ruined anything at all. If anything it made the night phase interesting
RIP Meatloaf <3
VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21170 Posts
May 23 2019 16:10 GMT
#2727
Ur doing God's work Jock don't you dare stop.
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
May 23 2019 16:11 GMT
#2728
No, they're good points to pick up on but unfortunately don't mean anything. It would probably be quite beneficial if you read some of my games where I'm mafia maybe? Although that will also be a time when I had more free time you can get a sense of my style. I normally imo just pick up on a point and hammer at it until I get a mislynch whereas town I kinda do that but actually have an ongoing poe with really shit feels and reasoning entwined in it. I also get swayed off things really easily.

Unlike this igrok guy who yet again posted an afk excuse.
Jockmcplop
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United Kingdom9755 Posts
May 23 2019 16:12 GMT
#2729
On May 24 2019 01:11 Holyflare wrote:
No, they're good points to pick up on but unfortunately don't mean anything. It would probably be quite beneficial if you read some of my games where I'm mafia maybe? Although that will also be a time when I had more free time you can get a sense of my style. I normally imo just pick up on a point and hammer at it until I get a mislynch whereas town I kinda do that but actually have an ongoing poe with really shit feels and reasoning entwined in it. I also get swayed off things really easily.

Unlike this igrok guy who yet again posted an afk excuse.


I don't wanna have to wait for you to seem like a townie.
RIP Meatloaf <3
disformation
Profile Joined July 2009
Germany8352 Posts
May 23 2019 16:12 GMT
#2730
On May 24 2019 00:58 Jockmcplop wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 24 2019 00:56 Holyflare wrote:
On May 23 2019 23:55 Jockmcplop wrote:
On May 23 2019 16:57 Jockmcplop wrote:
My other question would be:
Can you see how that interaction with artanis looks weird???

There's like 2 seconds between you scumreading and then townreading him and he only comes up in one more post that you make before the end of night 1 and that was to townread him again....


HF never answered this question and I really don't want it to go unanswered.
Does anyone else think this was super weird.


On May 23 2019 23:55 Jockmcplop wrote:
On May 23 2019 16:57 Jockmcplop wrote:
My other question would be:
Can you see how that interaction with artanis looks weird???

There's like 2 seconds between you scumreading and then townreading him and he only comes up in one more post that you make before the end of night 1 and that was to townread him again....


HF never answered this question and I really don't want it to go unanswered.
Does anyone else think this was super weird.


I can easily answer it for you. I can see how it would be weird for you but I don't think I'd ever interact with a mafia partner like that. I normally just bus or hard defend, none of this meek in between stuff that makes me look bad because of indecision.

The thing about this game is that my early play will be so polarising to a work week that it's like a whole different player. This game is like the last thing on my mind (that's a lie really) but I just pop in and see a post and register it as a post I don't like but my critical evaluation brain is switched off and I'll just blurt out my thoughts quickly. I'll go back to work pondering my skim and come back and say what I've been thinking even if it's wrong. This is exactly why I got pushed and lynched last game, for misremembering something and pushing it as fact (just nobody called me out on it till I get lynched).

So, I called artanis out for something I believed he did wrong and his call out made me look back at his filter and correct myself.


Saw this after my last post and it addresses that too...

Its a very,very convenient catch all excuse that could be true...

There's really not much more I can say about that to be honest.

then it is probably not alignment indicative.

in the same way: playing different does not have to mean scum or town.
e.g. some ppl say calix looks like scum!calix. other ppl say she looks like town!calix.
so it is probably different!calix.
VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21170 Posts
May 23 2019 16:12 GMT
#2731
On May 24 2019 01:12 Jockmcplop wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 24 2019 01:11 Holyflare wrote:
No, they're good points to pick up on but unfortunately don't mean anything. It would probably be quite beneficial if you read some of my games where I'm mafia maybe? Although that will also be a time when I had more free time you can get a sense of my style. I normally imo just pick up on a point and hammer at it until I get a mislynch whereas town I kinda do that but actually have an ongoing poe with really shit feels and reasoning entwined in it. I also get swayed off things really easily.

Unlike this igrok guy who yet again posted an afk excuse.


I don't wanna have to wait for you to seem like a townie.

THANK YOU
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
disformation
Profile Joined July 2009
Germany8352 Posts
May 23 2019 16:14 GMT
#2732
On May 24 2019 01:12 Jockmcplop wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 24 2019 01:11 Holyflare wrote:
No, they're good points to pick up on but unfortunately don't mean anything. It would probably be quite beneficial if you read some of my games where I'm mafia maybe? Although that will also be a time when I had more free time you can get a sense of my style. I normally imo just pick up on a point and hammer at it until I get a mislynch whereas town I kinda do that but actually have an ongoing poe with really shit feels and reasoning entwined in it. I also get swayed off things really easily.

Unlike this igrok guy who yet again posted an afk excuse.


I don't wanna have to wait for you to seem like a townie.

man. if you werent town jesus already this post would make you town jesus.

maybe now you are town jesus and the holy spirit or something?
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
May 23 2019 16:15 GMT
#2733
If my name wasn't Holyflare would you be saying the same thing? Or is it just a preconceived notion because you know what I'm capable of?
Jockmcplop
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United Kingdom9755 Posts
May 23 2019 16:20 GMT
#2734
On May 24 2019 01:15 Holyflare wrote:
If my name wasn't Holyflare would you be saying the same thing? Or is it just a preconceived notion because you know what I'm capable of?


What?

You played 3 games with me very recently where I watched what you were doing carefully because the first game I ever read rsoultin said something about you being good.

This sounds like gaslighting now.

Are you sure its not just you being crazy?


YES

RIP Meatloaf <3
Jockmcplop
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United Kingdom9755 Posts
May 23 2019 16:21 GMT
#2735
Like I'm trying to find reads you've made on people that aren't 100% waffle and there's a few but not many.

The main reason I started looking into this is because this is as far as I got with my spreadsheet yesterday:


[image loading]
RIP Meatloaf <3
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
May 23 2019 16:22 GMT
#2736
Dunno why you feel that way but irrelevant anyway. I'll just make some cases in a bit.
disformation
Profile Joined July 2009
Germany8352 Posts
May 23 2019 16:22 GMT
#2737
i am very proud of myself.
was expecting my column to only consist of waffles
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
May 23 2019 16:22 GMT
#2738
I voted igrok?
Jockmcplop
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United Kingdom9755 Posts
May 23 2019 16:23 GMT
#2739
On May 24 2019 01:22 Holyflare wrote:
Dunno why you feel that way but irrelevant anyway. I'll just make some cases in a bit.



THat was badly worded and had nothing to do with mental health I was actually not thinking of that
RIP Meatloaf <3
Jockmcplop
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United Kingdom9755 Posts
May 23 2019 16:25 GMT
#2740
Just to be clear I won't use that in game (in character??) because that would suck this was more a general accusation that you're lying and trying to make me think I'm not seeing what I'm seeing
RIP Meatloaf <3
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