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wherebugsgo
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Koshi
Belgium38799 Posts
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VisceraEyes
United States21170 Posts
On May 23 2019 22:28 Koshi wrote: Maybe if I play wbg his game he will like me more. 🤔 Just stop calling him bad and stupid and retarded and pants on head and you don't even have to play his game.  | ||
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Calix
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Don't think it's helpful to discuss this 'game' or whatever though. Conversion, have disformation/ Koshi done anything to change your reads of them? And what do you make of the whole BC/ VE/ Calix/ Artanis situation? | ||
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VisceraEyes
United States21170 Posts
On May 23 2019 22:29 Calix wrote: I also agree that Conversion's post reads as extremely townie for his frustration over his efforts largely being ignored...as opposed to him being okay that most people don't really care about him. The latter IS an ideal situation for mafia, after all. Don't think it's helpful to discuss this 'game' or whatever though. Conversion, have disformation/ Koshi done anything to change your reads of them? And what do you make of the whole BC/ VE/ Calix/ Artanis situation? Whoa whoa whoa, when was I part of a situation? | ||
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disformation
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Calix
3379 Posts
On May 23 2019 22:30 VisceraEyes wrote: Whoa whoa whoa, when was I part of a situation? We were bickering a bunch earlier. Also I don't think he's talked a lot about you so his take would be A. | ||
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VisceraEyes
United States21170 Posts
On May 23 2019 22:32 Calix wrote: We were bickering a bunch earlier. Also I don't think he's talked a lot about you so his take would be A. I guess, fmp if he's not screaming for my head he's  | ||
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VisceraEyes
United States21170 Posts
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Koshi
Belgium38799 Posts
On May 23 2019 22:24 Conversion wrote: onto a more salient point: I'm like 99.99% sure I do not ever engage you directly unless you engage me first, unless I'm doing some D1 lynch holyflare that never gets traction. I'll attempt to eat a shoe and probably fail if I'm wrong, but a quick filter into past games confirm that HF is a liar and a thief! Also mafia. | ||
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Koshi
Belgium38799 Posts
On May 23 2019 22:31 disformation wrote: desire to lynch conv: about 0% Why? | ||
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Conversion
United States3308 Posts
On May 23 2019 22:29 Calix wrote: I also agree that Conversion's post reads as extremely townie for his frustration over his efforts largely being ignored...as opposed to him being okay that most people don't really care about him. The latter IS an ideal situation for mafia, after all. Don't think it's helpful to discuss this 'game' or whatever though. Conversion, have disformation/ Koshi done anything to change your reads of them? And what do you make of the whole BC/ VE/ Calix/ Artanis situation? I'm inclined to back off my tunnel on disformation.. I think I'm reading him wrong (I believe multiple people told me I was wrong on his meta read, so there's that). I do like some of his later posts, he has picked up a bit. still a little bit wary, but I don't think my scumdar is particularly strong (I think I have like a 2/15 or some smaller percentages of actually reading scum as scum, so yeah..) Koshi, idk. He seems to be pushing his agenda and list pretty hard, and I would think mafia!Koshi would just recede into the background again, but he's beem spammy as hell and shouting for his list lynch. out of these two. I think I would do best to leave these two alone, and actually start focusing on playing the same game as at least a bigger subset of people in this game, as I've been playing solo pretty much and that went nowhere. On the opinion on BC/VE/Calix/Artanis, I'm inclined to believe there is scum in there. If I'm going by my current reads (I honestly think you are town, not sure where this Calix mafia stuff is coming from), it'd be BC/VE/Artanis, so they'll be my focus today. | ||
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VisceraEyes
United States21170 Posts
Maybe next time. | ||
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disformation
Germany8352 Posts
cause it feels genuine that he is pissed that not that many ppl cared about his case on me and im pretty sure like 0 ppl cared about his post on you? | ||
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disformation
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Calix
3379 Posts
On May 23 2019 22:36 Conversion wrote: I'm inclined to back off my tunnel on disformation.. I think I'm reading him wrong (I believe multiple people told me I was wrong on his meta read, so there's that). I do like some of his later posts, he has picked up a bit. still a little bit wary, but I don't think my scumdar is particularly strong (I think I have like a 2/15 or some smaller percentages of actually reading scum as scum, so yeah..) Koshi, idk. He seems to be pushing his agenda and list pretty hard, and I would think mafia!Koshi would just recede into the background again, but he's beem spammy as hell and shouting for his list lynch. out of these two. I think I would do best to leave these two alone, and actually start focusing on playing the same game as at least a bigger subset of people in this game, as I've been playing solo pretty much and that went nowhere. On the opinion on BC/VE/Calix/Artanis, I'm inclined to believe there is scum in there. If I'm going by my current reads (I honestly think you are town, not sure where this Calix mafia stuff is coming from), it'd be BC/VE/Artanis, so they'll be my focus today. Ah yeah, you initially thought Koshi was mafia who just had to be more active to cause chaos, right? So I take it you now think he's less suspicious because he's continuing to do that even when he doesn't have to? That's how I am reading your post but do correct me if I am wrong. Looking forward to seeing what you make of those guys then. I do think it is a good idea to be more flexible with reads and open to things. From my POV, a lot of townies are getting frustrated because they're not really engaging with others, are stuck in their own worldviews, and then wonder why nobody really wants to listen to them. I'm guilty of this myself this game, anyway  Anyway off for real now, lol. | ||
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disformation
Germany8352 Posts
d00d. i had to go back like 8 pages back in your filter to find a semblance of an explanation of your hf scum read. all 8 pages after that is just you saying "hf is mafia". so if you are town: i get its frustrating that ppl ignore you and not listen to you and lynch someone thats obv town to you. and i know hf is not easy to case if he is mafia. but maybe instead of being an obstinate spamer you could like slow down at one point and be like "i know you scrubs wont get it, but maybe open hfs filter and look for those points". so 1 braincell towns like me (normally i run on 2 brain cells but i currently have an headache) can open up hf's filter and be like "oh i can now totally see what koshi is going on about, maybe my read on hf was ass". and for the record that were the posts i found: On May 22 2019 02:38 Koshi wrote: On May 22 2019 02:40 Koshi wrote: That is hf this game. + Trash filter 7 hours ago. Didnt check anymore. e.g. it would have been super swell to write one sentence or two about why exactly hf's filter is trash and we should put him together with his filter into the garbage bin | ||
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raynpelikoneet
Finland43270 Posts
On May 23 2019 22:15 Conversion wrote: I'm just gonna address this here and now, whether that's for you or anyone else: I am ignoring everyone that doesn't do anything memorable to me, and I'm spending like the maximum that I can on this game without going insane, because in the past when I tried my hardest I'd just get flamed and that usually devolved into shitfights with people. It almost happened with Jock this game (sorry for being a flamer Jock!). also doesn't help that when I case something people barely have opinions on it and don't engage me. They just tell me I'm doing well, or that I'm wrong, and that's it. I'm not going to flame people to get my opinions heard, and if people aren't going to engage me on shit (especially when I thought I made two good cases and there was like 3 responses to it), it just demotivates me from my game. In fact, the only one who really engaged me this entire game are like Bugs, Calix, and Jock-- which is why I'm inclined to believe they are town rather than every one speaking around me like I don't exist tl;dr I don't want to play like I normally do (flaming everyone that scumreads me, flaming my scumreads, modkilling myself because I'm pissed off), but damn is it demotivating to have people just speak around you I tried reading your case on Koshi but i stopped because i felt like it didn't really go anywhere. Can you summarize some key points in it if you want to be listened? It's not like mafia slips in every post of theirs and i dont really understand why you focus so much on his meta when i think his meta this game clearly says he is town. I also have no idea why you participated that dumb iGrok thing D1. It was dumb and i think you should know that. I also don't know why you scumread VE because regardless of what VE ever wrote or what you wrote on him he is like Conversion just 5 years earlier and i think you should recognize same town!attributes (that i agree are not uselful but most people still do them) you just described you don't want to get into yourself in this game. | ||
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Conversion
United States3308 Posts
On May 23 2019 22:50 raynpelikoneet wrote: I tried reading your case on Koshi but i stopped because i felt like it didn't really go anywhere. Can you summarize some key points in it if you want to be listened? It's not like mafia slips in every post of theirs and i dont really understand why you focus so much on his meta when i think his meta this game clearly says he is town. I also have no idea why you participated that dumb iGrok thing D1. It was dumb and i think you should know that. I also don't know why you scumread VE because regardless of what VE ever wrote or what you wrote on him he is like Conversion just 5 years earlier and i think you should recognize same town!attributes (that i agree are not uselful but most people still do them) you just described you don't want to get into yourself in this game. @rayn, Calix said it best (I am not good with words, lol why am I playing mafia?). I thought Koshi's early game was mafia!Koshi shitting up the thread and "pushing" for his lynches, but him continuing to do shitting up the thread makes me believe it's just town!Koshi believing himself to be a god, when he's just human like the rest of us yelling for his lynches. no need to reread it, I'll revisit some notes on him if it gets down to it, as I don't think he is the focus for today regardless. I also did not call VE mafia, not sure where you're getting that from. I was specifically responding to Calix asking me about the VE/Artanis/BC/Calix stuff, and I was saying that if there was mafia in the 4, I can narrow it to three because I believe Calix is town. I'll admit I don't remember anything about Artanis besides him yelling for BC lynch at one point, and calling me town. I don't remember much about BC except him screaming that he'll go 1:1 with Artanis given the lynch. and I actually don't remember who VE wanted to lynch, but he was yellign about someone. but also just jumping everywhere and anywhere, and trying to thread police people off you early on in the game. hence why I need a reread, because these remembrances might be totally wrong, and it's a 130+ page game and I need to reread things instead of fucking off when people don't engage me | ||
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Holyflare
United Kingdom30775 Posts
On May 23 2019 21:31 BloodyC0bbler wrote: Similar reasons to Ruxxar not really trying to dissuade people from voting for him? Like, I do see where you are coming from but if you arent 100% on a read and fear it might hit town (who could very well by lynched) why wouldnt you remove said vote if it could save them. Because: A) he still scum reads calix from what he said afterwards B) he let his town read die because of it C) he afkd a vote on a wagon he himself said had no way of happening | ||
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