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Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
May 22 2019 11:43 GMT
#2181
On May 22 2019 20:41 Calix wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 22 2019 20:38 disformation wrote:
On May 22 2019 20:37 Calix wrote:
On May 22 2019 20:31 disformation wrote:
On May 22 2019 20:16 Calix wrote:
Also can someone tell me why iGrok decides to vote for HF at EOD? Earlier he justified his vote on me partly because 'HF my top scum read isn't getting lynched' but then he leaves a lone vote on HF despite literally nobody wanting to lynch him at EOD. No way he could've thought HF was going to die when nobody had mentioned him.

It's even worse because this was when I was a wagon? [because he apparently scum-reads me again but not really, who the fuck even understood that part of the chat]

It looks horrible.

oh he is going for a logic attempt. let me try to translate and see if it makes sense:
On May 22 2019 10:16 iGrok wrote:
[...]
So if at least one of calix and ruxx are town, that means that HF has to be scum.

On May 22 2019 10:21 iGrok wrote:
Seriously, I think the logic there is pretty straightforward, but to reiterate:

Calix and Ruxx are not both mafia, because mafia would not bus a teammate when the votes are close like this.

Ruxx and HF aren't both mafia because Ruxxar called HF on some shit that most other people didn't, it was a weird attack when HF was not seeing any real pressure.

Calix and HF aren't both mafia because HF looked like he was trying to set up a wagon on Calix earlier.

so what this means is:

If you think that any one of HF, Calix, or Ruxx are mafia, it has to be HF


On May 22 2019 10:41 iGrok wrote:
Lol, Calix and HF on "INDEPENDENT TERMS" are red.

The weakest of those assertions is the Calix/HF one, because HF switched off calix fairly quickly. Why you're attacking the ruxx/hf assertion doesn't make sense. In your words, "Come the fuck on".

Ruxxar's filter is filled with brief periods of activity which go like this: "I'm back, here's a quick summary, some filler posts, bye". H's acting like a dude who doesn't have a whole lot of time to put into writing up stuff, but he is clearly reading based on his quotes in his posts. Not everyone spams like You, HF, Koshi, or VE.

On May 22 2019 10:56 iGrok wrote:
C OR R==TOWN
C OR H==TOWN
H OR R==TOWN
R != H
C AND H AND R==MAFIA

Forgot that part

read:
one of calix, ruxxar is town
one of calix, hf is town
one of ruxxar, hf is town
ruxxar has a different alignment from hf
one of ruxxar, hf, calix scum

so he is basically saying "all 3 of them look super scummy to me, but it makes no sense for them to be a team, so lemme look for the one that is most likely scum and afk my vote there"


Fair play on the whole 'they're not on a team so clearly I fucked up somewhere' part.

But if he thinks there's mafia between HF and myself then it still makes more sense to just re-vote me since I actually had votes and if I'm mafia then great, if I'm town then HF is scum, etc. Especially since he thinks one of us is scum still.

yeah. the progression or read kinda makes sense if you think from his pov.
but i also agree with you that i am not a fan of him parking the vote again on hf, after earlier being like "cant get him lynched anyways".
but then i dont think anyone was in thread, so it prolly didnt super matter anyways?


Whether it 'mattered or not' isn't really the point though.

As for your Artanis thing, is forgetting to include a name in a basic reads list that has no reasoning attached actually scummy?


*Insert random question that pretend shows I am scumhunting but instead shows I am not thinking about the game myself and really dislike to analyse situations and make conclusions about them. Not to speak of forcing my conclusions on the thread like every fucking townie does from time to time*
I had a good night of sleep.
Calix
Profile Joined August 2016
3379 Posts
May 22 2019 11:45 GMT
#2182
On May 22 2019 20:43 Koshi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 22 2019 20:41 Calix wrote:
On May 22 2019 20:38 disformation wrote:
On May 22 2019 20:37 Calix wrote:
On May 22 2019 20:31 disformation wrote:
On May 22 2019 20:16 Calix wrote:
Also can someone tell me why iGrok decides to vote for HF at EOD? Earlier he justified his vote on me partly because 'HF my top scum read isn't getting lynched' but then he leaves a lone vote on HF despite literally nobody wanting to lynch him at EOD. No way he could've thought HF was going to die when nobody had mentioned him.

It's even worse because this was when I was a wagon? [because he apparently scum-reads me again but not really, who the fuck even understood that part of the chat]

It looks horrible.

oh he is going for a logic attempt. let me try to translate and see if it makes sense:
On May 22 2019 10:16 iGrok wrote:
[...]
So if at least one of calix and ruxx are town, that means that HF has to be scum.

On May 22 2019 10:21 iGrok wrote:
Seriously, I think the logic there is pretty straightforward, but to reiterate:

Calix and Ruxx are not both mafia, because mafia would not bus a teammate when the votes are close like this.

Ruxx and HF aren't both mafia because Ruxxar called HF on some shit that most other people didn't, it was a weird attack when HF was not seeing any real pressure.

Calix and HF aren't both mafia because HF looked like he was trying to set up a wagon on Calix earlier.

so what this means is:

If you think that any one of HF, Calix, or Ruxx are mafia, it has to be HF


On May 22 2019 10:41 iGrok wrote:
Lol, Calix and HF on "INDEPENDENT TERMS" are red.

The weakest of those assertions is the Calix/HF one, because HF switched off calix fairly quickly. Why you're attacking the ruxx/hf assertion doesn't make sense. In your words, "Come the fuck on".

Ruxxar's filter is filled with brief periods of activity which go like this: "I'm back, here's a quick summary, some filler posts, bye". H's acting like a dude who doesn't have a whole lot of time to put into writing up stuff, but he is clearly reading based on his quotes in his posts. Not everyone spams like You, HF, Koshi, or VE.

On May 22 2019 10:56 iGrok wrote:
C OR R==TOWN
C OR H==TOWN
H OR R==TOWN
R != H
C AND H AND R==MAFIA

Forgot that part

read:
one of calix, ruxxar is town
one of calix, hf is town
one of ruxxar, hf is town
ruxxar has a different alignment from hf
one of ruxxar, hf, calix scum

so he is basically saying "all 3 of them look super scummy to me, but it makes no sense for them to be a team, so lemme look for the one that is most likely scum and afk my vote there"


Fair play on the whole 'they're not on a team so clearly I fucked up somewhere' part.

But if he thinks there's mafia between HF and myself then it still makes more sense to just re-vote me since I actually had votes and if I'm mafia then great, if I'm town then HF is scum, etc. Especially since he thinks one of us is scum still.

yeah. the progression or read kinda makes sense if you think from his pov.
but i also agree with you that i am not a fan of him parking the vote again on hf, after earlier being like "cant get him lynched anyways".
but then i dont think anyone was in thread, so it prolly didnt super matter anyways?


Whether it 'mattered or not' isn't really the point though.

As for your Artanis thing, is forgetting to include a name in a basic reads list that has no reasoning attached actually scummy?


*Insert random question that pretend shows I am scumhunting but instead shows I am not thinking about the game myself and really dislike to analyse situations and make conclusions about them. Not to speak of forcing my conclusions on the thread like every fucking townie does from time to time*


Could you actually fuck off? I am trying to play the game and you keep harassing me and yelling at people who 'talk to me like I am a person' as if I am somehow undeserving of that. It's rude and starting to get to me on a personal level.
disformation
Profile Joined July 2009
Germany8352 Posts
May 22 2019 11:46 GMT
#2183
On May 22 2019 20:39 Koshi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 22 2019 20:37 disformation wrote:
On May 22 2019 20:21 Koshi wrote:
On May 22 2019 19:54 disformation wrote:
bleh. -.-

On May 22 2019 19:32 wherebugsgo wrote:
On May 22 2019 19:23 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Calix and VE liking the BC case and then never actually moving their vote when they didn't seem convinced by the leading wagons makes my boner to lynch all of them that much harder.


Ah you’re here for only two hours right? So this is my only chance

Two things I’d like you to explain:

1. If BC and VE are scum why was BC willing to help me push VE? And why would VE say that BC was buddying me/not actually believing in the case on VE himself if they’re both scum?

2. Why would either Calix or VE vote BC at EOD when igrok reached the lead? They seemed far more into killing iGrok than BC

3. Where is disformation?

i am here. though tired and at work.
On May 22 2019 19:20 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Confirmed town:
Jockmcplop

Town:
Holyflare
Conversion
Koshi

Townish:
Raynpelikoneet

Null:
iGrok
wherebugsgo

Scummish:
Calix
VisceraEyes

Lynch with fire:
The Cobbler

AMA.

bc: totes scum
calix, ve: totes scum for saying they like the case but refusing to vote
disfo: only guy to vote totes scum and only other guy to at least try to get ppl to vote bc: *insert tumbleweed gif*

not sure if that makes you scum, but I feel kinda insulted -.-

I have been calling a bc/calix lynch since calix posted and bc was calling a ruxxar lynch over calix lynch.

So pls gooby

not exactly my point.
my point is: art is basing two of his scumreads entirely on their reactions/actions to his bc read. and then forgets the only dude voting with him.

I know what your point was.
But you lied making your point.

true you did point out one of the things on bc earlier than anyone else, but neither did you vote bc, nor did art forget you in his list.
wherebugsgo
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Japan10647 Posts
May 22 2019 11:50 GMT
#2184
On May 22 2019 20:45 Calix wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 22 2019 20:43 Koshi wrote:
On May 22 2019 20:41 Calix wrote:
On May 22 2019 20:38 disformation wrote:
On May 22 2019 20:37 Calix wrote:
On May 22 2019 20:31 disformation wrote:
On May 22 2019 20:16 Calix wrote:
Also can someone tell me why iGrok decides to vote for HF at EOD? Earlier he justified his vote on me partly because 'HF my top scum read isn't getting lynched' but then he leaves a lone vote on HF despite literally nobody wanting to lynch him at EOD. No way he could've thought HF was going to die when nobody had mentioned him.

It's even worse because this was when I was a wagon? [because he apparently scum-reads me again but not really, who the fuck even understood that part of the chat]

It looks horrible.

oh he is going for a logic attempt. let me try to translate and see if it makes sense:
On May 22 2019 10:16 iGrok wrote:
[...]
So if at least one of calix and ruxx are town, that means that HF has to be scum.

On May 22 2019 10:21 iGrok wrote:
Seriously, I think the logic there is pretty straightforward, but to reiterate:

Calix and Ruxx are not both mafia, because mafia would not bus a teammate when the votes are close like this.

Ruxx and HF aren't both mafia because Ruxxar called HF on some shit that most other people didn't, it was a weird attack when HF was not seeing any real pressure.

Calix and HF aren't both mafia because HF looked like he was trying to set up a wagon on Calix earlier.

so what this means is:

If you think that any one of HF, Calix, or Ruxx are mafia, it has to be HF


On May 22 2019 10:41 iGrok wrote:
Lol, Calix and HF on "INDEPENDENT TERMS" are red.

The weakest of those assertions is the Calix/HF one, because HF switched off calix fairly quickly. Why you're attacking the ruxx/hf assertion doesn't make sense. In your words, "Come the fuck on".

Ruxxar's filter is filled with brief periods of activity which go like this: "I'm back, here's a quick summary, some filler posts, bye". H's acting like a dude who doesn't have a whole lot of time to put into writing up stuff, but he is clearly reading based on his quotes in his posts. Not everyone spams like You, HF, Koshi, or VE.

On May 22 2019 10:56 iGrok wrote:
C OR R==TOWN
C OR H==TOWN
H OR R==TOWN
R != H
C AND H AND R==MAFIA

Forgot that part

read:
one of calix, ruxxar is town
one of calix, hf is town
one of ruxxar, hf is town
ruxxar has a different alignment from hf
one of ruxxar, hf, calix scum

so he is basically saying "all 3 of them look super scummy to me, but it makes no sense for them to be a team, so lemme look for the one that is most likely scum and afk my vote there"


Fair play on the whole 'they're not on a team so clearly I fucked up somewhere' part.

But if he thinks there's mafia between HF and myself then it still makes more sense to just re-vote me since I actually had votes and if I'm mafia then great, if I'm town then HF is scum, etc. Especially since he thinks one of us is scum still.

yeah. the progression or read kinda makes sense if you think from his pov.
but i also agree with you that i am not a fan of him parking the vote again on hf, after earlier being like "cant get him lynched anyways".
but then i dont think anyone was in thread, so it prolly didnt super matter anyways?


Whether it 'mattered or not' isn't really the point though.

As for your Artanis thing, is forgetting to include a name in a basic reads list that has no reasoning attached actually scummy?


*Insert random question that pretend shows I am scumhunting but instead shows I am not thinking about the game myself and really dislike to analyse situations and make conclusions about them. Not to speak of forcing my conclusions on the thread like every fucking townie does from time to time*


Could you actually fuck off? I am trying to play the game and you keep harassing me and yelling at people who 'talk to me like I am a person' as if I am somehow undeserving of that. It's rude and starting to get to me on a personal level.


I have a question for you Calix

Since you've played a couple games as town against Koshi now, did you ever manage to catch him in those two previous games?

Did he play like this in either of those two ones?

How about the opposite, when you were scum vs his town?
Calix
Profile Joined August 2016
3379 Posts
May 22 2019 11:51 GMT
#2185
On May 22 2019 20:50 wherebugsgo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 22 2019 20:45 Calix wrote:
On May 22 2019 20:43 Koshi wrote:
On May 22 2019 20:41 Calix wrote:
On May 22 2019 20:38 disformation wrote:
On May 22 2019 20:37 Calix wrote:
On May 22 2019 20:31 disformation wrote:
On May 22 2019 20:16 Calix wrote:
Also can someone tell me why iGrok decides to vote for HF at EOD? Earlier he justified his vote on me partly because 'HF my top scum read isn't getting lynched' but then he leaves a lone vote on HF despite literally nobody wanting to lynch him at EOD. No way he could've thought HF was going to die when nobody had mentioned him.

It's even worse because this was when I was a wagon? [because he apparently scum-reads me again but not really, who the fuck even understood that part of the chat]

It looks horrible.

oh he is going for a logic attempt. let me try to translate and see if it makes sense:
On May 22 2019 10:16 iGrok wrote:
[...]
So if at least one of calix and ruxx are town, that means that HF has to be scum.

On May 22 2019 10:21 iGrok wrote:
Seriously, I think the logic there is pretty straightforward, but to reiterate:

Calix and Ruxx are not both mafia, because mafia would not bus a teammate when the votes are close like this.

Ruxx and HF aren't both mafia because Ruxxar called HF on some shit that most other people didn't, it was a weird attack when HF was not seeing any real pressure.

Calix and HF aren't both mafia because HF looked like he was trying to set up a wagon on Calix earlier.

so what this means is:

If you think that any one of HF, Calix, or Ruxx are mafia, it has to be HF


On May 22 2019 10:41 iGrok wrote:
Lol, Calix and HF on "INDEPENDENT TERMS" are red.

The weakest of those assertions is the Calix/HF one, because HF switched off calix fairly quickly. Why you're attacking the ruxx/hf assertion doesn't make sense. In your words, "Come the fuck on".

Ruxxar's filter is filled with brief periods of activity which go like this: "I'm back, here's a quick summary, some filler posts, bye". H's acting like a dude who doesn't have a whole lot of time to put into writing up stuff, but he is clearly reading based on his quotes in his posts. Not everyone spams like You, HF, Koshi, or VE.

On May 22 2019 10:56 iGrok wrote:
C OR R==TOWN
C OR H==TOWN
H OR R==TOWN
R != H
C AND H AND R==MAFIA

Forgot that part

read:
one of calix, ruxxar is town
one of calix, hf is town
one of ruxxar, hf is town
ruxxar has a different alignment from hf
one of ruxxar, hf, calix scum

so he is basically saying "all 3 of them look super scummy to me, but it makes no sense for them to be a team, so lemme look for the one that is most likely scum and afk my vote there"


Fair play on the whole 'they're not on a team so clearly I fucked up somewhere' part.

But if he thinks there's mafia between HF and myself then it still makes more sense to just re-vote me since I actually had votes and if I'm mafia then great, if I'm town then HF is scum, etc. Especially since he thinks one of us is scum still.

yeah. the progression or read kinda makes sense if you think from his pov.
but i also agree with you that i am not a fan of him parking the vote again on hf, after earlier being like "cant get him lynched anyways".
but then i dont think anyone was in thread, so it prolly didnt super matter anyways?


Whether it 'mattered or not' isn't really the point though.

As for your Artanis thing, is forgetting to include a name in a basic reads list that has no reasoning attached actually scummy?


*Insert random question that pretend shows I am scumhunting but instead shows I am not thinking about the game myself and really dislike to analyse situations and make conclusions about them. Not to speak of forcing my conclusions on the thread like every fucking townie does from time to time*


Could you actually fuck off? I am trying to play the game and you keep harassing me and yelling at people who 'talk to me like I am a person' as if I am somehow undeserving of that. It's rude and starting to get to me on a personal level.


I have a question for you Calix

Since you've played a couple games as town against Koshi now, did you ever manage to catch him in those two previous games?

Did he play like this in either of those two ones?

How about the opposite, when you were scum vs his town?


Uh, I think I got lynched D1 in the scum game. And I don't think I've ever 'caught' him as town until after I was dead, lol.

So my record of reading Koshi is, on the whole, not great.
iGrok
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States5142 Posts
May 22 2019 11:52 GMT
#2186
On May 22 2019 20:09 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 22 2019 20:07 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
On May 22 2019 19:54 disformation wrote:
bleh. -.-

On May 22 2019 19:32 wherebugsgo wrote:
On May 22 2019 19:23 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Calix and VE liking the BC case and then never actually moving their vote when they didn't seem convinced by the leading wagons makes my boner to lynch all of them that much harder.


Ah you’re here for only two hours right? So this is my only chance

Two things I’d like you to explain:

1. If BC and VE are scum why was BC willing to help me push VE? And why would VE say that BC was buddying me/not actually believing in the case on VE himself if they’re both scum?

2. Why would either Calix or VE vote BC at EOD when igrok reached the lead? They seemed far more into killing iGrok than BC

3. Where is disformation?

i am here. though tired and at work.
On May 22 2019 19:20 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Confirmed town:
Jockmcplop

Town:
Holyflare
Conversion
Koshi

Townish:
Raynpelikoneet

Null:
iGrok
wherebugsgo

Scummish:
Calix
VisceraEyes

Lynch with fire:
The Cobbler

AMA.

bc: totes scum
calix, ve: totes scum for saying they like the case but refusing to vote
disfo: only guy to vote totes scum and only other guy to at least try to get ppl to vote bc: *insert tumbleweed gif*

not sure if that makes you scum, but I feel kinda insulted -.-

Sorry buddy <3 wanting to lynch the Cobbler with me earns you townpoints, but I literally don't remember a single other thing you've really done this game. It kinda feels like you're being a cheerleader. Can you point me to some of your original thoughts this game?

I can. He pointed out ruxxar post on bc that was really good.

No, that was me.
MOTM | Stim.tv | TL Mafia | Fantasy Fighting! | SNSD
wherebugsgo
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Japan10647 Posts
May 22 2019 11:54 GMT
#2187
On May 22 2019 20:51 Calix wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 22 2019 20:50 wherebugsgo wrote:
On May 22 2019 20:45 Calix wrote:
On May 22 2019 20:43 Koshi wrote:
On May 22 2019 20:41 Calix wrote:
On May 22 2019 20:38 disformation wrote:
On May 22 2019 20:37 Calix wrote:
On May 22 2019 20:31 disformation wrote:
On May 22 2019 20:16 Calix wrote:
Also can someone tell me why iGrok decides to vote for HF at EOD? Earlier he justified his vote on me partly because 'HF my top scum read isn't getting lynched' but then he leaves a lone vote on HF despite literally nobody wanting to lynch him at EOD. No way he could've thought HF was going to die when nobody had mentioned him.

It's even worse because this was when I was a wagon? [because he apparently scum-reads me again but not really, who the fuck even understood that part of the chat]

It looks horrible.

oh he is going for a logic attempt. let me try to translate and see if it makes sense:
On May 22 2019 10:16 iGrok wrote:
[...]
So if at least one of calix and ruxx are town, that means that HF has to be scum.

On May 22 2019 10:21 iGrok wrote:
Seriously, I think the logic there is pretty straightforward, but to reiterate:

Calix and Ruxx are not both mafia, because mafia would not bus a teammate when the votes are close like this.

Ruxx and HF aren't both mafia because Ruxxar called HF on some shit that most other people didn't, it was a weird attack when HF was not seeing any real pressure.

Calix and HF aren't both mafia because HF looked like he was trying to set up a wagon on Calix earlier.

so what this means is:

If you think that any one of HF, Calix, or Ruxx are mafia, it has to be HF


On May 22 2019 10:41 iGrok wrote:
Lol, Calix and HF on "INDEPENDENT TERMS" are red.

The weakest of those assertions is the Calix/HF one, because HF switched off calix fairly quickly. Why you're attacking the ruxx/hf assertion doesn't make sense. In your words, "Come the fuck on".

Ruxxar's filter is filled with brief periods of activity which go like this: "I'm back, here's a quick summary, some filler posts, bye". H's acting like a dude who doesn't have a whole lot of time to put into writing up stuff, but he is clearly reading based on his quotes in his posts. Not everyone spams like You, HF, Koshi, or VE.

On May 22 2019 10:56 iGrok wrote:
C OR R==TOWN
C OR H==TOWN
H OR R==TOWN
R != H
C AND H AND R==MAFIA

Forgot that part

read:
one of calix, ruxxar is town
one of calix, hf is town
one of ruxxar, hf is town
ruxxar has a different alignment from hf
one of ruxxar, hf, calix scum

so he is basically saying "all 3 of them look super scummy to me, but it makes no sense for them to be a team, so lemme look for the one that is most likely scum and afk my vote there"


Fair play on the whole 'they're not on a team so clearly I fucked up somewhere' part.

But if he thinks there's mafia between HF and myself then it still makes more sense to just re-vote me since I actually had votes and if I'm mafia then great, if I'm town then HF is scum, etc. Especially since he thinks one of us is scum still.

yeah. the progression or read kinda makes sense if you think from his pov.
but i also agree with you that i am not a fan of him parking the vote again on hf, after earlier being like "cant get him lynched anyways".
but then i dont think anyone was in thread, so it prolly didnt super matter anyways?


Whether it 'mattered or not' isn't really the point though.

As for your Artanis thing, is forgetting to include a name in a basic reads list that has no reasoning attached actually scummy?


*Insert random question that pretend shows I am scumhunting but instead shows I am not thinking about the game myself and really dislike to analyse situations and make conclusions about them. Not to speak of forcing my conclusions on the thread like every fucking townie does from time to time*


Could you actually fuck off? I am trying to play the game and you keep harassing me and yelling at people who 'talk to me like I am a person' as if I am somehow undeserving of that. It's rude and starting to get to me on a personal level.


I have a question for you Calix

Since you've played a couple games as town against Koshi now, did you ever manage to catch him in those two previous games?

Did he play like this in either of those two ones?

How about the opposite, when you were scum vs his town?


Uh, I think I got lynched D1 in the scum game. And I don't think I've ever 'caught' him as town until after I was dead, lol.

So my record of reading Koshi is, on the whole, not great.


you have the benefit of hindsight now, do you think this play is more similar to his town or scum games?

If I had the power to smite Koshi and rayn both out of the game I probably would, even though sadly I have a townread on rayn and sort of a community town read on Koshi
Calix
Profile Joined August 2016
3379 Posts
May 22 2019 11:56 GMT
#2188
On May 22 2019 20:54 wherebugsgo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 22 2019 20:51 Calix wrote:
On May 22 2019 20:50 wherebugsgo wrote:
On May 22 2019 20:45 Calix wrote:
On May 22 2019 20:43 Koshi wrote:
On May 22 2019 20:41 Calix wrote:
On May 22 2019 20:38 disformation wrote:
On May 22 2019 20:37 Calix wrote:
On May 22 2019 20:31 disformation wrote:
On May 22 2019 20:16 Calix wrote:
Also can someone tell me why iGrok decides to vote for HF at EOD? Earlier he justified his vote on me partly because 'HF my top scum read isn't getting lynched' but then he leaves a lone vote on HF despite literally nobody wanting to lynch him at EOD. No way he could've thought HF was going to die when nobody had mentioned him.

It's even worse because this was when I was a wagon? [because he apparently scum-reads me again but not really, who the fuck even understood that part of the chat]

It looks horrible.

oh he is going for a logic attempt. let me try to translate and see if it makes sense:
On May 22 2019 10:16 iGrok wrote:
[...]
So if at least one of calix and ruxx are town, that means that HF has to be scum.

On May 22 2019 10:21 iGrok wrote:
Seriously, I think the logic there is pretty straightforward, but to reiterate:

Calix and Ruxx are not both mafia, because mafia would not bus a teammate when the votes are close like this.

Ruxx and HF aren't both mafia because Ruxxar called HF on some shit that most other people didn't, it was a weird attack when HF was not seeing any real pressure.

Calix and HF aren't both mafia because HF looked like he was trying to set up a wagon on Calix earlier.

so what this means is:

If you think that any one of HF, Calix, or Ruxx are mafia, it has to be HF


On May 22 2019 10:41 iGrok wrote:
Lol, Calix and HF on "INDEPENDENT TERMS" are red.

The weakest of those assertions is the Calix/HF one, because HF switched off calix fairly quickly. Why you're attacking the ruxx/hf assertion doesn't make sense. In your words, "Come the fuck on".

Ruxxar's filter is filled with brief periods of activity which go like this: "I'm back, here's a quick summary, some filler posts, bye". H's acting like a dude who doesn't have a whole lot of time to put into writing up stuff, but he is clearly reading based on his quotes in his posts. Not everyone spams like You, HF, Koshi, or VE.

On May 22 2019 10:56 iGrok wrote:
C OR R==TOWN
C OR H==TOWN
H OR R==TOWN
R != H
C AND H AND R==MAFIA

Forgot that part

read:
one of calix, ruxxar is town
one of calix, hf is town
one of ruxxar, hf is town
ruxxar has a different alignment from hf
one of ruxxar, hf, calix scum

so he is basically saying "all 3 of them look super scummy to me, but it makes no sense for them to be a team, so lemme look for the one that is most likely scum and afk my vote there"


Fair play on the whole 'they're not on a team so clearly I fucked up somewhere' part.

But if he thinks there's mafia between HF and myself then it still makes more sense to just re-vote me since I actually had votes and if I'm mafia then great, if I'm town then HF is scum, etc. Especially since he thinks one of us is scum still.

yeah. the progression or read kinda makes sense if you think from his pov.
but i also agree with you that i am not a fan of him parking the vote again on hf, after earlier being like "cant get him lynched anyways".
but then i dont think anyone was in thread, so it prolly didnt super matter anyways?


Whether it 'mattered or not' isn't really the point though.

As for your Artanis thing, is forgetting to include a name in a basic reads list that has no reasoning attached actually scummy?


*Insert random question that pretend shows I am scumhunting but instead shows I am not thinking about the game myself and really dislike to analyse situations and make conclusions about them. Not to speak of forcing my conclusions on the thread like every fucking townie does from time to time*


Could you actually fuck off? I am trying to play the game and you keep harassing me and yelling at people who 'talk to me like I am a person' as if I am somehow undeserving of that. It's rude and starting to get to me on a personal level.


I have a question for you Calix

Since you've played a couple games as town against Koshi now, did you ever manage to catch him in those two previous games?

Did he play like this in either of those two ones?

How about the opposite, when you were scum vs his town?


Uh, I think I got lynched D1 in the scum game. And I don't think I've ever 'caught' him as town until after I was dead, lol.

So my record of reading Koshi is, on the whole, not great.


you have the benefit of hindsight now, do you think this play is more similar to his town or scum games?

If I had the power to smite Koshi and rayn both out of the game I probably would, even though sadly I have a townread on rayn and sort of a community town read on Koshi


Wish I could be more useful but I actually don't know. I see both town and mafia in his play.
disformation
Profile Joined July 2009
Germany8352 Posts
May 22 2019 11:58 GMT
#2189
he is pretty unchill.
but can be town!koshi being super annoyed at kinda getting ignored all game
Calix
Profile Joined August 2016
3379 Posts
May 22 2019 12:00 GMT
#2190
On May 22 2019 20:56 Calix wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 22 2019 20:54 wherebugsgo wrote:
On May 22 2019 20:51 Calix wrote:
On May 22 2019 20:50 wherebugsgo wrote:
On May 22 2019 20:45 Calix wrote:
On May 22 2019 20:43 Koshi wrote:
On May 22 2019 20:41 Calix wrote:
On May 22 2019 20:38 disformation wrote:
On May 22 2019 20:37 Calix wrote:
On May 22 2019 20:31 disformation wrote:
[quote]
oh he is going for a logic attempt. let me try to translate and see if it makes sense:
[quote]
[quote]
[quote]
[quote]
read:
one of calix, ruxxar is town
one of calix, hf is town
one of ruxxar, hf is town
ruxxar has a different alignment from hf
one of ruxxar, hf, calix scum

so he is basically saying "all 3 of them look super scummy to me, but it makes no sense for them to be a team, so lemme look for the one that is most likely scum and afk my vote there"


Fair play on the whole 'they're not on a team so clearly I fucked up somewhere' part.

But if he thinks there's mafia between HF and myself then it still makes more sense to just re-vote me since I actually had votes and if I'm mafia then great, if I'm town then HF is scum, etc. Especially since he thinks one of us is scum still.

yeah. the progression or read kinda makes sense if you think from his pov.
but i also agree with you that i am not a fan of him parking the vote again on hf, after earlier being like "cant get him lynched anyways".
but then i dont think anyone was in thread, so it prolly didnt super matter anyways?


Whether it 'mattered or not' isn't really the point though.

As for your Artanis thing, is forgetting to include a name in a basic reads list that has no reasoning attached actually scummy?


*Insert random question that pretend shows I am scumhunting but instead shows I am not thinking about the game myself and really dislike to analyse situations and make conclusions about them. Not to speak of forcing my conclusions on the thread like every fucking townie does from time to time*


Could you actually fuck off? I am trying to play the game and you keep harassing me and yelling at people who 'talk to me like I am a person' as if I am somehow undeserving of that. It's rude and starting to get to me on a personal level.


I have a question for you Calix

Since you've played a couple games as town against Koshi now, did you ever manage to catch him in those two previous games?

Did he play like this in either of those two ones?

How about the opposite, when you were scum vs his town?


Uh, I think I got lynched D1 in the scum game. And I don't think I've ever 'caught' him as town until after I was dead, lol.

So my record of reading Koshi is, on the whole, not great.


you have the benefit of hindsight now, do you think this play is more similar to his town or scum games?

If I had the power to smite Koshi and rayn both out of the game I probably would, even though sadly I have a townread on rayn and sort of a community town read on Koshi


Wish I could be more useful but I actually don't know. I see both town and mafia in his play.


To elaborate, he does make some observations but he also has a 'fly-by' approach and is very spammy without saying a lot or being very threatening. For example, he super-scum-reads me but I don't feel pressured by this. I just got annoyed at the running commentary/ mockery on my posts.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
May 22 2019 12:00 GMT
#2191
You are all crazy
I had a good night of sleep.
VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21170 Posts
May 22 2019 12:01 GMT
#2192
Artanis going from not only townreading me but chainsaw defending me D1 into wanting to lynch me N1 is comical. Go filter him and see when the very first time he mentions being suspicious of me is. Go on look.

You know what it looks like to me? It looks to me like Artanis is TRYING to look townie by doing some outlandish read-switching based on his OWN thread actions alone. My issue is I don't know that it makes him mafia - like, there are any number of reasons why he would do it as mafia AND town.

Anyway it looks fake, like he doesn't actually believe it. He barely mentions anything about my play all game, he literally only is factoring in the reaction to his BC case and the shit surrounding the vote before fucking off again.

But like what's the motivation? Why does he do this dumb shit as EITHER alignment?
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
May 22 2019 12:02 GMT
#2193
Artanis is on the list.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
May 22 2019 12:03 GMT
#2194
On May 22 2019 05:57 Koshi wrote:
1. BloodyC0bble
4. HolyFlare
8. iGrok
11. disformation
12. Arty Mctanis
13. Calix

I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
May 22 2019 12:04 GMT
#2195
Did you ever give 6 names hf?
I had a good night of sleep.
wherebugsgo
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Japan10647 Posts
May 22 2019 12:05 GMT
#2196
On May 22 2019 20:58 disformation wrote:
he is pretty unchill.
but can be town!koshi being super annoyed at kinda getting ignored all game


you mentioned earlier in the game he had reads you disagreed with and didn't know how to read him because of that

is that still true or are you more aligned on reads now?
VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21170 Posts
May 22 2019 12:05 GMT
#2197
Town motivations:
- Town often switch their reads based on their own thread actions and interactions. Could just be town and I'm wrong about being fake.
- Could be trying to stay alive by making the mafia think he's dumb?
- Could be a power role trying to dodge a bullet?

Mafia motivations:
- Town often switch their reads based on their own thread actions and interactions. Could be mafia faking town?
- Could be trying (lol) to turn thread sentiment against me?
- Could be faking trying to stay alive?

uuuuuuggghhhhhh

Why are people playing in an intentionally difficult way? Just play the same as you do during the day, Jesus fucking Christ.
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
May 22 2019 12:05 GMT
#2198
Calix 99%
Bloody 75%
Hf 55%
Rest of 71% over the other 3.
I had a good night of sleep.
wherebugsgo
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Japan10647 Posts
May 22 2019 12:08 GMT
#2199
On May 22 2019 21:05 VisceraEyes wrote:
Town motivations:
- Town often switch their reads based on their own thread actions and interactions. Could just be town and I'm wrong about being fake.
- Could be trying to stay alive by making the mafia think he's dumb?
- Could be a power role trying to dodge a bullet?

Mafia motivations:
- Town often switch their reads based on their own thread actions and interactions. Could be mafia faking town?
- Could be trying (lol) to turn thread sentiment against me?
- Could be faking trying to stay alive?

uuuuuuggghhhhhh

Why are people playing in an intentionally difficult way? Just play the same as you do during the day, Jesus fucking Christ.


do you think his case on BC is legit (AKA would town Artanis do that)? Do you agree with it?

What's your read/take on Calix ATM?
VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21170 Posts
May 22 2019 12:09 GMT
#2200
Mafia motivation: explain why VE is alive at the daypost.



I'll see you boys in the morning I guess.
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
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