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On May 23 2019 22:35 Koshi wrote:Show nested quote +On May 23 2019 22:24 Conversion wrote:onto a more salient point: On May 23 2019 21:00 Holyflare wrote:On May 23 2019 18:49 Koshi wrote:
Can somebody explain to me why the thread now thibks conversion is mafia? I saw rayn put it in the thread and after that he dropped on both HF and VE townlist by more than he should. I don't think he's dropped through actions really, just by poe and the fact I've not entirely liked what he's been up to. He has no focus on me which is something I think he'd be doing as town (afraid as mafia maybe? Bit of a stretch) and he's kind of in a weird tangential place not playing the same game as other people. I'm like 99.99% sure I do not ever engage you directly unless you engage me first, unless I'm doing some D1 lynch holyflare that never gets traction. I'll attempt to eat a shoe and probably fail if I'm wrong, but a quick filter into past games confirm that HF is a liar and a thief! Also mafia.
d00d.
i had to go back like 8 pages back in your filter to find a semblance of an explanation of your hf scum read. all 8 pages after that is just you saying "hf is mafia".
so if you are town: i get its frustrating that ppl ignore you and not listen to you and lynch someone thats obv town to you. and i know hf is not easy to case if he is mafia. but maybe instead of being an obstinate spamer you could like slow down at one point and be like "i know you scrubs wont get it, but maybe open hfs filter and look for those points".
so 1 braincell towns like me (normally i run on 2 brain cells but i currently have an headache) can open up hf's filter and be like "oh i can now totally see what koshi is going on about, maybe my read on hf was ass".
and for the record that were the posts i found:
On May 22 2019 02:38 Koshi wrote:Show nested quote +On May 21 2019 17:47 ruXxar wrote:On May 21 2019 17:37 Holyflare wrote:
Personally, I think ruxxar was perfectly correct to call me mafia. I had a high burst of activity and then have completely waffled and disappeared as people get more active.
What I don't like is that it was opportunistic. He'd town read me before afaik, arbitrarily decided that between rayn and I that I somehow became mafia and then wrote the narrative on me.
He dropped all his other reads for that too. Essentially I'm the lynch bait currently and he took it. Who else is he supposed to push to look good other than a high profile sitting duck that people can't disagree with his read on? What id this logic. Ruxx: hf is acting scummy Hf: youre right, but your scummy for calling me scum.
On May 22 2019 02:39 Koshi wrote:Show nested quote +On May 19 2019 21:14 VisceraEyes wrote:On May 19 2019 20:56 Holyflare wrote:On May 19 2019 20:18 raynpelikoneet wrote:
What? I copy pasted my first post from last game and changed some words and order lol. Now he's retroactively justifying it :D!!!!!!!! HF: Rayn did this because he's mafia Rayn: No I did this because X HF: AND NOW HES TRYING TO EXPLAIN HIMSELF!!! KILL IT!!!
On May 22 2019 02:40 Koshi wrote:
That is hf this game.
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Trash filter 7 hours ago. Didnt check anymore.
e.g. it would have been super swell to write one sentence or two about why exactly hf's filter is trash and we should put him together with his filter into the garbage bin
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On May 23 2019 23:10 Koshi wrote:Show nested quote +On May 23 2019 22:40 disformation wrote:On May 23 2019 22:36 Koshi wrote:On May 23 2019 22:31 disformation wrote:
desire to lynch conv: about 0% Why? cause it feels genuine that he is pissed that not that many ppl cared about his case on me and im pretty sure like 0 ppl cared about his post on you? Oki. Feel like he can fake that but it's ok. Maybe not.
mh yeah dunno. maybe im a bit hasty/easy with my town reads today. or in general a huge sucker for anything that kinda appeals to my emotions.
also thanks for the input on hf
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i also agree that hf has been friendly this game.
and i respect koshis gut feeling on that, since koshi played way more with hf than me.
buuut not gonna lie, its not that convincing to me. sry
tbh kinda want to see what/how hf plays tomorrow when he is not at work
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On May 23 2019 23:31 Koshi wrote:Show nested quote +On May 23 2019 23:31 Jockmcplop wrote:On May 23 2019 23:28 Koshi wrote:
Normal hf would have done something fun and fresh and cool and annoying and would piss me off etc.
This hf just sets up things. I feel it. Did hf fakeclaim night 1? I don't think he did. Why the fuck not??????? THE PLOT THICKENS
that is actually a not shitty point.
like hf has been very bland this game.
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conversion
VE
take a smokeing/coffee/whatever else break for 30mins and cool off
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On May 23 2019 23:34 Conversion wrote:
god forbid I have to read toxic rayn's D1 filter. I'll probably contract some sort of fucking chemical disease from it
lol
aint gonna lynch that guy today.
now go and take a break dude
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rayn:
think one of your mainreasons to scumread calix was her d1 entry post. what do you think of her posts today?
obv you are not a fan of:
On May 23 2019 23:10 raynpelikoneet wrote:
reiteratating:
she asks you for reads
you say basically nothing
everyone lives happily ever after
but did you pick up anything else?
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mh calix also had a super early tr on me, which is a bit strange.
though did that stuff as town too before. handing out fairly easy townreads d1 so i can poe a bit and focus my attention better.
though maybe i got a bit pocketed/buddy-ed by her?
def. have to read her filter properly when i am at home. hope my headache is gone by the time i get home.
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also not sure what to make of art backing of bc even though bc didnt even do much?
i would agree with art that i didnt mind the n1 stuff by bc.
then again all bc was to say that all the big names are town and he is going to step back from the tunnel and reevaluate.
and his posts today didnt say much. he reads grok, says grok town and votes art.
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@conv:
if i remember correctly someone said that art and bc have history so part of the strong reaction of bc is that "art should know better than to get the meta read wrong" imo
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oh yeah bc obv had some interactions with calix but i dont think they went anywhere really interesting.
so imo bc can still be scum
problem is that im not really sure on art anymore
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On May 24 2019 00:30 disformation wrote:
oh yeah bc obv had some interactions with calix but i dont think they went anywhere really interesting.
so imo bc can still be scum
problem is that im not really sure on art anymore
i know preflip associations suck, but i dont think there is a world where both are scum.
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On May 24 2019 01:02 Holyflare wrote:Show nested quote +On May 24 2019 00:56 Jockmcplop wrote:
I hate to keep harping on how weirdly hf is playing this game buuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuut.....
I'm struggling to find any meta examples of hf's vote landing off one of the major wagons, like ever. Until day 1 of this game.
This might be tunneling but there's so much weird stuff its hard not to get drawn into it,know what i mean?
My dude, I was the leading wagon voter I think when I went to bed. It was 5am when the flip and shenanigans happened. It's normally an eu friendly deadline or at least like 12 to 1am max so I stick around. I didn't do a fake claim this game because a) I've effectively ruined the last 2 games doing it and people never learn and even lynched me for it twice and b) it was 5am！ I think you're pretty tunnelled 
reminds me of the game where you fake claimed a red check on someone as cop.
that was fun.
i was scum though. xD
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On May 24 2019 00:58 Jockmcplop wrote:Show nested quote +On May 24 2019 00:56 Holyflare wrote:On May 23 2019 23:55 Jockmcplop wrote:On May 23 2019 16:57 Jockmcplop wrote:
My other question would be:
Can you see how that interaction with artanis looks weird???
There's like 2 seconds between you scumreading and then townreading him and he only comes up in one more post that you make before the end of night 1 and that was to townread him again....
HF never answered this question and I really don't want it to go unanswered. Does anyone else think this was super weird. On May 23 2019 23:55 Jockmcplop wrote:On May 23 2019 16:57 Jockmcplop wrote:
My other question would be:
Can you see how that interaction with artanis looks weird???
There's like 2 seconds between you scumreading and then townreading him and he only comes up in one more post that you make before the end of night 1 and that was to townread him again....
HF never answered this question and I really don't want it to go unanswered. Does anyone else think this was super weird. I can easily answer it for you. I can see how it would be weird for you but I don't think I'd ever interact with a mafia partner like that. I normally just bus or hard defend, none of this meek in between stuff that makes me look bad because of indecision. The thing about this game is that my early play will be so polarising to a work week that it's like a whole different player. This game is like the last thing on my mind (that's a lie really) but I just pop in and see a post and register it as a post I don't like but my critical evaluation brain is switched off and I'll just blurt out my thoughts quickly. I'll go back to work pondering my skim and come back and say what I've been thinking even if it's wrong. This is exactly why I got pushed and lynched last game, for misremembering something and pushing it as fact (just nobody called me out on it till I get lynched). So, I called artanis out for something I believed he did wrong and his call out made me look back at his filter and correct myself. Saw this after my last post and it addresses that too... Its a very,very convenient catch all excuse that could be true... There's really not much more I can say about that to be honest.
then it is probably not alignment indicative.
in the same way: playing different does not have to mean scum or town.
e.g. some ppl say calix looks like scum!calix. other ppl say she looks like town!calix.
so it is probably different!calix.
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On May 24 2019 01:12 Jockmcplop wrote:Show nested quote +On May 24 2019 01:11 Holyflare wrote:
No, they're good points to pick up on but unfortunately don't mean anything. It would probably be quite beneficial if you read some of my games where I'm mafia maybe? Although that will also be a time when I had more free time you can get a sense of my style. I normally imo just pick up on a point and hammer at it until I get a mislynch whereas town I kinda do that but actually have an ongoing poe with really shit feels and reasoning entwined in it. I also get swayed off things really easily.
Unlike this igrok guy who yet again posted an afk excuse. I don't wanna have to wait for you to seem like a townie.
man. if you werent town jesus already this post would make you town jesus.
maybe now you are town jesus and the holy spirit or something?
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i am very proud of myself.
was expecting my column to only consist of waffles
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On May 24 2019 01:31 Jockmcplop wrote:Show nested quote +On May 24 2019 01:22 disformation wrote:
i am very proud of myself.
was expecting my column to only consist of waffles Its done in rows. Yours isn't filled out cos I only got as far as HF before I stopped to take a closer look. Yeah I dunno what happened there but the reads are all good from as far as I got. If anyone disputes anything else there they should tell me.
derp.
i blame you my 1 remaining brain cell
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On May 24 2019 01:34 Holyflare wrote:If you want a good read: https://tl.net/forum/mafia/487093-mafia-in-the-himalayas?page=263#5255Good example of me as mafia (and bugs actually before he replaced. Reminds me of his range now so I'll look at him this game because he's really good too). More importantly the fallout post game and mafia qt is just the best.
wasn't that the one where you got red checked and still won without getting lynched?
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On May 24 2019 03:40 VisceraEyes wrote:Show nested quote +On May 24 2019 03:36 Holyflare wrote:
Also what is with all the people that would be coming under fire today just vanishing with excuses?
Honestly, the more Bugs posts the worse he looks imo. He is a very VERY strong mafia player and it just looks like his excuses are becoming more and more about avoiding the thread than any kind of being busy.
Calix, similarly, made an afk excuse I think?
iGrok although he said he'd be busy till Friday so I await his inevitable return with calling me mafia.
BC too??
Artanis is just never here. Lynch All Lurkers. We've been granted extra lynches by the mafia gods.
not the worst plan.
i think i mentioned a few times that bc is falling off at a steady pace.
though art is falling off even harderer. in quality that is.
bugs today has been super wall of text that leave me very confused and not many infos.
yep:
On May 23 2019 17:20 Calix wrote:
Okay I haven't properly read the thread and don't think I'll get the time to do that this cycle because of work.
But I think it's really suspicious how every time I am in the thread, certain players 'town lean' me but when I am not in the thread, they start calling me potential mafia again or associate me with every goddamn person [iGrok, Artanis, BC, Conversion]. I am thinking I am being set up for a mislynch down the line because people know rayn/ Koshi will tunnel me until the end of time.
I am actually thinking this is more scummy than just rayn/ Koshi. Those two are, as far as I can recall, the ONLY people who have consistently scum-read me and called for my head. Meanwhile people like HF, VE, Artanis, BC dance around my alignment as and when it's convenient. And WBG claims to think I'm town yet has made several comments that look, to me, like he's encouraging people to vote for me/ consider me as an option. Which is fucking weird because why would you want a town read to be considered for lynch?
When I get the time I want to filter the HF, VE, Artanis, BC group because there's probably mafia in there and it might not necessarily be/ just be BC.
In the meantime, I am voting for iGrok.
##vote iGrok
didnt someone predict for ppl to be more lazy cause more time? here we go:
On May 23 2019 23:07 iGrok wrote:
Just woke up, haven't read anything since the daypost. I'm stuck in seminar all day today, so I'll check back in with you all later. Days are 72 hours long, gonna use that fact
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