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On May 07 2019 18:46 wherebugsgo wrote:
so FF is on the lynch MZ train right away as is sort of expected given that AFAICT he never town read MZ once prior to this day. But why does he so quickly get off MZ after his responses when the rest of town hasn't budged?
Like that seemed premature to me, just autoswap to Pandain as soon as MZ posted something pseudo decent.
Great point, considering from Day2 on MZ was his top scum read. Makes no sense at all, and sounds like he's just trying to create suspicions instead of actually lynching who he thinks is scum.
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okay I'm gonna sleep on this but I like where this is going and want to create a second wagon to force this discussion.
If we're going to make this decision it should be on the merits of what stands before us and not on momentum. And besides the more people get talking the better anyway, and FF hasn't done enough of that yet.
FF would you be willing to kill yourself today so that we have an easier time deciding who to kill tomorrow? Like if you let us kill you now it's basically guaranteed to be MZ right?
##vote FecalFeast
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my delirium has morphed into lucidity so I think my time has come to sleep
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also grack better unwaste his vote quickly
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Aw I miss my town buds VE and Bugs.
But now I think the rest of you are town, so you're my town buds too!
Where ya'll at?
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Just drew a picture of everyone still in the game + the hosts. Can you find yourself?
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On May 07 2019 19:32 Pandain wrote:Just drew a picture of everyone still in the game + the hosts. Can you find yourself? + Show Spoiler [LOVE THIS[img] +https://i.imgur.com/a9oF2OH.png <3 brt bby [/img]
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On May 07 2019 19:32 Pandain wrote:Just drew a picture of everyone still in the game + the hosts. Can you find yourself? + Show Spoiler [LOVE THIS] +
<3
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Jesus Christ. See, and this is why we work together. The difference is, actually, stark. I was putting to much stock in my own tone read, neglecting any kind of meta whatsoever. But you're right, the difference is actually striking.
Top 10 Anime Betrayals.
##Unvote
##Vote: Fecalfeast
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Fecalfeast, for what it's worth, in future mafia games, you should do MORE of the posts like the ones I praised you for this game. AND IT FELT GOOD DIDN'T IT? It could be like that every game if you just let it. The proof is in this game. IN THIS VERY GAME.
I'm gonna go through and make a best-of Fecalfeast post from this game, for his reference.
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Man Pandain that was fucking nasty. Like, I'm SO glad you didn't just go with thread sentiment. It would have been SO easy with the bullshit I conjured up about MZ.
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I mean worst case scenario is this is the first town game ever where FF tries hard and we lynch him for it, thus ensuring he never tries hard again.
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On May 02 2019 15:49 Fecalfeast wrote:Show nested quote +On May 02 2019 15:41 wherebugsgo wrote:On May 02 2019 15:35 Fecalfeast wrote:On May 02 2019 15:08 wherebugsgo wrote:On May 02 2019 14:16 Fecalfeast wrote:
maf
BC
vivax
maf-ish
grack?
wbg
MZ
towny
rayn
koshi
ve
hf
that's from a once over of the thread based on feels. thinking about hf's pandain case so i haven't placed him yet. rels can die too
I can elaborate or whatever if ppl ask i'll be up all night I think
why do you think BC is scum? Why did you sheep my vote on MZ and disappear? If you think I am scummy why do you also think MZ is scummy? BC seemed scummy when I read his posts. Let me take this bong rip and I'll look again at him MZ seemed like a fun pressure vote, got distracted playing rimworld/mtg arena and getting baked. Came back and again got distracted with real life shit. I was around at EoD but I had a physiotherapy appointment at deadline and hadn't really been reading so changing my vote to a wagon would have been purely for lulz what do you think of people trying to get you lynched? (myself included) I'm never a fan of people going for me earlygame (or ever, really) because my scum meta (based on my own memory) is one of high activity earlygame because I'm excited to have rolled mafia. As town I'm often low hanging fruit which, obviously, is self-defeating of my tendency to omgus but it doesn't seem to matter. Show nested quote +On May 02 2019 15:41 wherebugsgo wrote:On May 02 2019 15:37 Fecalfeast wrote:
not really much to go on in BC's filter which honestly means i shouldn't probably scum him that hard yet Okay, but doesn't the same thing apply to Vivax? no
It's possible this self-awareness will check out if FF flips mafia here - hyperactive early D1? Check. Marked reduction in posting afterward? Check. Not low-hanging fruit this game? Check.
On May 02 2019 16:09 Fecalfeast wrote:1. No, you can look through my games yourself + Show Spoiler [FecalFeast] +2. Vivax doesn't play when he's mafia based on my perception of him in games we've played together including one where we were both mafia
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On May 04 2019 06:44 Fecalfeast wrote:Show nested quote +On May 04 2019 04:57 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:On May 04 2019 04:49 VisceraEyes wrote:On May 04 2019 04:28 Holyflare wrote:On May 04 2019 03:57 VisceraEyes wrote:
Higher probability scum.
Bugs only looks like mafia because of how he's flailing here, now. His play before now looked pretty null to me, leaning townie. The exchange between he and HF is a tough call though - like I said before, he looks like mafia because of how "resigned" he is to his fate. He even didn't believe HF's claim all along and STILL felt "momentum to lynch" him, even after the claim was retracted.
Further, he looks worse because he ultimately believed HF - though the progression looks relatively natural, it could just as easily be him realizing the miller angle slowly, as others were realizing it too. As a townie, MY gut reaction is "WELP LOOKS LIKE WE GETEM BOYS!!!" if someone fake-claims on me, I INSTANTLY assume they're mafia trying to fuck me. It never really looked like bugs had that reaction.
HOWEVER
In the spirit of transparency, I'm not confident in my ability to accurately read bugs or his intentions. He's always been something of a wild-card to me and that frustration has bubbled over several times in our history. That could be coloring my hesitation to call him scum - I've been wrong SO MUCH before about Bugs. But like I said before - his play lacks a sharp edge that his mafia game typically has, so I've been leaning town most of the game. First few bits is why I disliked him. Guess Pandain is the safer lynch bu t I really don't care tbh. Did you not get this bit? What do you make of that VE? Also what do you make of FF saying he's down for Rels and then down for Pandain just as quickly? What do you think of me saying I'm down for a rels lynch then down for pandain just as quickly? VE obviously didn't read into it and you obviously have some suspicious thoughts about it or you wouldn't have brought it up. Or were you just trying to act like you're scumhunting by putting names in front of active townies?
Look at this beauty! Go and look through the mafia games Pandain posted and I CHALLENGE YOU to find something EVEN APPROACHING this level of blast. It might exist, but I didn't see it.
On May 04 2019 12:23 Fecalfeast wrote:Show nested quote +On May 04 2019 11:35 Pandain wrote:
To summarize me on Jock:
I thought he was an okay lynch for day 1, not great but decent for day1. I was lukewarm about him and had more a gut read on rels (although that vibe more disappeared when it became clear rels was not lurking but just genuinely afk). At end of day, I became concerned with the complete lack or drive attempts away from jock which suggested to me he's town. I tried to switch to rels (who I was still not sold on but viewed it like an RNG lynch because he was essentially inactive) , but Rayn would only be down for vivax or bugs. I realized vivax was a great lynch and pushed for him.
Later I posted I think a couple mafia were maybe on Jock, this is because he was the lazy but decent day 1 choice . It didn't mean of course I thought everyone who voted him is suspicious but it does mean I thought scum would vote him too. This has been at least vindicated by vivax flipping. I kinda hate this post. It sorta frames yesterday as being all about rayn and who rayn wanted to lynch when there was actually quite a bit of turbulence from what I can tell reading the end of day after the fact. Then trying to claim points for saying that a 'couple mafia were maybe on jock' as if anyone gives a shit about VCA that basically says 'I think maybe mafia had a hand in killing this towny!' Two paragraphs that kinda boil down to "not my fault, remember how I scumread vivax?"
Similar one here that I missed, blasting YOU Pandain!
Emboldened by praise from VisceraEyes, urged to further acts of senseless violence, Fecalfeast's reign of terror continues. Who will be the next to be taken down a peg or two?
On May 07 2019 11:19 Fecalfeast wrote:as soon as slam started talking about pandain a post jumped into my mind from pandain. I will find it Show nested quote +On May 06 2019 05:52 Pandain wrote:On May 06 2019 05:39 Fecalfeast wrote:Also koshi said he was going to be 'rayn 2.0' with rayn's list. This should probably mean the rest of rayn's list is incorrect? On May 03 2019 05:54 Koshi wrote:On May 03 2019 04:54 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Vivax
Wherebugsgo
Pandain
(Fecalfeast)
VE is never mafia for anyone who will question it later. He is just too invested in teh game, i think that was the only unexplained read i had. Goodluck. ##Vote wherebugsgo MZ sounds like a good place to start. Low activity for a newb on a team of afk scum sounds totally accurate Unfortunately I think it is a huge boost for Bugs and to a lesser extent me but since you were so far down the line it doesn't help you that much. You were more an addendum than anything else. When he made the post it seemed like he was more worried about pointing out that it doesn't clear me than anything else. Which I disliked obviously. I don't know. I'm rereading pandains day 1 and he has some weird posts with our current information. I have a bunch of tabs open but here are some highlights Show nested quote +On May 02 2019 03:16 Pandain wrote:On May 02 2019 02:57 raynpelikoneet wrote:On May 02 2019 00:44 Pandain wrote: FIXED POST I am confused about why Jock suddenly became an asshole in this thread when the last two games he was super nice and if anything apologetic. Also his blogs are fun to read so I'm sort of shocked. I don't think he's a bad lynch and might switch to him if the votes are close. Also this is concerning: On May 01 2019 11:23 Jockmcplop wrote: On May 01 2019 10:35 wherebugsgo wrote: On May 01 2019 10:29 Jockmcplop wrote: On May 01 2019 08:54 Holyflare wrote:
Oh well nothing more to add really. I think jock is way out of character and the town read(s) are pretty unjustified here. Out of character compared to when I was mafia? You gonna ignore my previous post? You should answer this, and don't even think about skipping any of the questions: Can you define what makes people suspicious? What types of things are suspicious and why would they be indicators someone is mafia instead of town?
Have you read Incognito's guide? What do you think your #1 priority should be if you are a townie? Regardless of your alignment, at your current rate, you should know you're going to be dead. In addition to that, let's see your reads. #1 priority as town for me is finding scum. And then proceedes to be super lukewarm about scum reads and doesn't scumhunt at all. You really think mafia claims this and then does the complete opposite? You'd need to be really dumb if you didn't realise this is exactly where it gets you and i wouldn't say that's a really good strategy. But it's okay, maybe the 70% of the game can talk about something else after D1 since you're gonna have your lynch. Mafia literally does it all the time. It's precisely inherently mafia to say good things and then not do them or follow them Show nested quote +On May 02 2019 03:18 Pandain wrote:
Also more importantly it's not a dumb silly contradiction that could be overlooked. It's a mindset contradiction Show nested quote +On May 02 2019 03:18 Pandain wrote:
I mean he could be town perhaps even likely. Im not even voting him. But it's day 1 so do what you do Look how self-conscious and aware of how he's being perceived pandain is in this triple-post. Reads like it's coming from a mafia mindset.
Here's a pretty odd contradiction coupled with some equally odd association with koshi Show nested quote +On May 01 2019 20:33 Pandain wrote:
I don't really have any mafia reads, but I think VE is town from his carefree and open posting, and Koshi for same reason. I think that's a pretty good start for day 1.
I'm going to vote Rels because he's done absolutely nothing, and he did the same exact thing last time when I was mafia with him. Show nested quote +On May 02 2019 00:53 Pandain wrote:
I think Wherebugsgo is solid town, not even learn town. He's most active person, is clearly actively reading and re-reading and using that to inform his view in a logical way (even if i disagree sometimes)
Super strong town lean on Koshi as well for his carefree posting. They just seem townie. Show nested quote +On May 02 2019 05:04 Pandain wrote:
I wouldn't at all be surprised to see two scum between BC, VE, HF, bugs, and vivax So shortly before grouping these 5 players as some weird cell containing 2 scum, he called two of its members town. Not townleans either. Two of the other members have flipped town This, coupled with the fact that we have already established that vivax's first post in the scum QT was likely instructions to bus him, means that pandain through leading a vivax lynch was setting up to lynch into a group of 4 towns. Pretty odd indeed. I will now mention that he happened to call flipped-scum koshi town twice in these posts but will not speak further on such a simple point. I have some kinda shitty stuff too if you're interested
I mean, there's nothing like this in those games either!
Fecalfeast seriously bro, play like this more often, regardless of your alignment. Because when you're town, you will be mislynched less. And when you're mafia, you'll be correctly lynched less.
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On May 07 2019 22:20 Pandain wrote:
I mean worst case scenario is this is the first town game ever where FF tries hard and we lynch him for it, thus ensuring he never tries hard again.
Maybe but I think you nailed him. Like his mafia games are all sheepy and trolly and posting things he THINKS he does as town. His town games are like, You, what do you think of that? You! What do you think of this? This and this and this happened and this is my take what do you think? Am I crazy? Fuck it I'ma get high. BUT I'LL BE BACK AND I'LL ASK SO MANY MORE QUESTIONS!!!
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Ugh I'm only at 24% of the posts in this thread I GOTTA PICK IT UP BREEEEHHHHHHHHHHHHH
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On May 07 2019 15:41 VisceraEyes wrote:Show nested quote +On May 07 2019 15:40 Fecalfeast wrote:
What's your current off-the-top 3 lynch order VE? Or is that lso information you recently stated that I could og find? Ya I've stated it, currently I'm somewhere around MZ>Grack>Slam MZ>Slam>Grack
This is wrong and if you follow it you're going to lose.
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On May 07 2019 22:53 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:Show nested quote +On May 07 2019 15:41 VisceraEyes wrote:On May 07 2019 15:40 Fecalfeast wrote:
What's your current off-the-top 3 lynch order VE? Or is that lso information you recently stated that I could og find? Ya I've stated it, currently I'm somewhere around MZ>Grack>Slam MZ>Slam>Grack This is wrong and if you follow it you're going to lose.
Keep reading bby
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On May 07 2019 22:56 VisceraEyes wrote:Show nested quote +On May 07 2019 22:53 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:On May 07 2019 15:41 VisceraEyes wrote:On May 07 2019 15:40 Fecalfeast wrote:
What's your current off-the-top 3 lynch order VE? Or is that lso information you recently stated that I could og find? Ya I've stated it, currently I'm somewhere around MZ>Grack>Slam MZ>Slam>Grack This is wrong and if you follow it you're going to lose. Keep reading bby
Ah now I see. Well its comforting to see someone agreeing with me although I wish it wasn't Pandain lmao.
Here's your order VE FF>MZ>Pandain
Again if by some miracle I don't get lynched today and FF is town. I want to die tomorrow bc I'll never survive final 3, everyone but maybe Pandain scum reads me. I will need to die so we can pack as many relatively townread people into the final 3 as possible so we don't end up with me/grack/slam lmao.
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Nah I disagree. It's pretty close to a slam dunk. You say counterexamples, I say exceptions that prove the rule. 
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