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On May 07 2019 10:53 VisceraEyes wrote:Show nested quote +On May 07 2019 09:07 Alakaslam wrote:
Basically MZ made a good point I don’t think mafia do that either You have to remember: mafia know peoples' alignment. Don't clear him on his ability to correctly identify a town - the mafia can do that in their sleep. You can only catch them in them trying to find mafia - because they have to make you think that a townie is mafia somehow. They can say true statements all day long about all the townies. In fact, they're GOING to to try and gain allies. Slam, think my sson.
Oh
Oh yes this is truth
Hijole
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On May 07 2019 13:22 Alakaslam wrote:Show nested quote +On May 07 2019 10:53 VisceraEyes wrote:On May 07 2019 09:07 Alakaslam wrote:
Basically MZ made a good point I don’t think mafia do that either You have to remember: mafia know peoples' alignment. Don't clear him on his ability to correctly identify a town - the mafia can do that in their sleep. You can only catch them in them trying to find mafia - because they have to make you think that a townie is mafia somehow. They can say true statements all day long about all the townies. In fact, they're GOING to to try and gain allies. Slam, think my sson. Oh Oh yes this is truth Hijole
And the truth shall set you free.
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On May 07 2019 11:19 Fecalfeast wrote:as soon as slam started talking about pandain a post jumped into my mind from pandain. I will find it Show nested quote +On May 06 2019 05:52 Pandain wrote:On May 06 2019 05:39 Fecalfeast wrote:Also koshi said he was going to be 'rayn 2.0' with rayn's list. This should probably mean the rest of rayn's list is incorrect? On May 03 2019 05:54 Koshi wrote:On May 03 2019 04:54 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Vivax
Wherebugsgo
Pandain
(Fecalfeast)
VE is never mafia for anyone who will question it later. He is just too invested in teh game, i think that was the only unexplained read i had. Goodluck. ##Vote wherebugsgo MZ sounds like a good place to start. Low activity for a newb on a team of afk scum sounds totally accurate Unfortunately I think it is a huge boost for Bugs and to a lesser extent me but since you were so far down the line it doesn't help you that much. You were more an addendum than anything else. When he made the post it seemed like he was more worried about pointing out that it doesn't clear me than anything else. Which I disliked obviously. I don't know. I'm rereading pandains day 1 and he has some weird posts with our current information. I have a bunch of tabs open but here are some highlights Show nested quote +On May 02 2019 03:16 Pandain wrote:On May 02 2019 02:57 raynpelikoneet wrote:On May 02 2019 00:44 Pandain wrote: FIXED POST I am confused about why Jock suddenly became an asshole in this thread when the last two games he was super nice and if anything apologetic. Also his blogs are fun to read so I'm sort of shocked. I don't think he's a bad lynch and might switch to him if the votes are close. Also this is concerning: On May 01 2019 11:23 Jockmcplop wrote: On May 01 2019 10:35 wherebugsgo wrote: On May 01 2019 10:29 Jockmcplop wrote: On May 01 2019 08:54 Holyflare wrote:
Oh well nothing more to add really. I think jock is way out of character and the town read(s) are pretty unjustified here. Out of character compared to when I was mafia? You gonna ignore my previous post? You should answer this, and don't even think about skipping any of the questions: Can you define what makes people suspicious? What types of things are suspicious and why would they be indicators someone is mafia instead of town?
Have you read Incognito's guide? What do you think your #1 priority should be if you are a townie? Regardless of your alignment, at your current rate, you should know you're going to be dead. In addition to that, let's see your reads. #1 priority as town for me is finding scum. And then proceedes to be super lukewarm about scum reads and doesn't scumhunt at all. You really think mafia claims this and then does the complete opposite? You'd need to be really dumb if you didn't realise this is exactly where it gets you and i wouldn't say that's a really good strategy. But it's okay, maybe the 70% of the game can talk about something else after D1 since you're gonna have your lynch. Mafia literally does it all the time. It's precisely inherently mafia to say good things and then not do them or follow them Show nested quote +On May 02 2019 03:18 Pandain wrote:
Also more importantly it's not a dumb silly contradiction that could be overlooked. It's a mindset contradiction Show nested quote +On May 02 2019 03:18 Pandain wrote:
I mean he could be town perhaps even likely. Im not even voting him. But it's day 1 so do what you do Look how self-conscious and aware of how he's being perceived pandain is in this triple-post. Reads like it's coming from a mafia mindset.
Here's a pretty odd contradiction coupled with some equally odd association with koshi Show nested quote +On May 01 2019 20:33 Pandain wrote:
I don't really have any mafia reads, but I think VE is town from his carefree and open posting, and Koshi for same reason. I think that's a pretty good start for day 1.
I'm going to vote Rels because he's done absolutely nothing, and he did the same exact thing last time when I was mafia with him. Show nested quote +On May 02 2019 00:53 Pandain wrote:
I think Wherebugsgo is solid town, not even learn town. He's most active person, is clearly actively reading and re-reading and using that to inform his view in a logical way (even if i disagree sometimes)
Super strong town lean on Koshi as well for his carefree posting. They just seem townie. Show nested quote +On May 02 2019 05:04 Pandain wrote:
I wouldn't at all be surprised to see two scum between BC, VE, HF, bugs, and vivax So shortly before grouping these 5 players as some weird cell containing 2 scum, he called two of its members town. Not townleans either. Two of the other members have flipped town This, coupled with the fact that we have already established that vivax's first post in the scum QT was likely instructions to bus him, means that pandain through leading a vivax lynch was setting up to lynch into a group of 4 towns. Pretty odd indeed. I will now mention that he happened to call flipped-scum koshi town twice in these posts but will not speak further on such a simple point. I have some kinda shitty stuff too if you're interested
See this is the shit I am talking about
I never lynch FF this game
 Fecal Feast
He uses computer where I am too fucking lazy
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If someone wants to vote anyone other than MZ, I’m not letting them until they write a one paragraph explanation for why MZ reads FF.
Bonus points if you can do it without rereading MZ’s filter
If you can’t do that then maybe we should just kill the one person who has never had a real read all game
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On May 07 2019 11:25 VisceraEyes wrote:
Sorry Pandain, but FF totally fucking slammed MZ earlier and that last post just....I gotta give the man props. I'm sure it's all booty to you, but it looks town as fuck to me.
HOLYS SHIT FECALFEAST
Man alive but I see it, I just did not think it would sway others
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On May 07 2019 11:26 Grackaroni wrote:
VE if you werent Vigi I would scum read you at this point.
Wut
Wut for
I dinnae see it
I dinnae ken
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On May 07 2019 11:34 VisceraEyes wrote:
I'm serious too, Pandain is on the table, decide who you think is the better lynch between he and MZ if you aren't feeling an MZ lynch. But for my part, I'm not lynching FF and I'm not lynching Bugs. I'm on the fence about Slam, he disappeared at a really inopportune time for me after shitting on my lynch of choice.
Sorry
I am really spotty these days. I do a LOT of driving.
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all of you lurkers should try and meta read each other and post the results so we can compare notes
It’s like your homework for being less than useful till now
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On May 07 2019 11:36 VisceraEyes wrote:
That paranoid shit at this point in the game with so much actual content....I just don't see it.
MZ/Slam - What do you make of the fact that Pandain was among the few voices trying to draw attention to Koshi at an important time, after the GF had flipped?
I was unaware.
However haven’t I heard that koshi was also very disinterested? That is how we save Grackaroni from being scum right?
Well, what use is a power in the hands of someone who will likely grow less and less active?
And by this bussing gains power- hell, looks like it is working perfectly except on the slam hobbit and maybe FF is my Aragorn
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On May 07 2019 11:43 VisceraEyes wrote:Like yes, Pandain said Koshi was super strong town that one time, but then look at all of this, AFTER the GF flipped... + Show Spoiler [There's quite a bit] +On May 05 2019 05:07 Pandain wrote:
Yes time to go into lurkers. Almost certain last two scum is within slam, koshi, FF, and MZ On May 05 2019 22:26 Pandain wrote:
Koshi is also a great lynch as well. Completely useless filter and hasn't pushed anyone ever. Has commented on some posts and that's it. On May 05 2019 22:48 Pandain wrote:It's just even if he's busy his posts just are complete trash. Compare them with last couple times he's been town. tl.nettl.netIn comparison, it's a lot more like times he's been mafia. tl.nettl.net On May 05 2019 22:49 Pandain wrote:
There's just a complete lack of caring about the game, something that does not at all appear in the two above linked games of him being town, but you can tell in the last two. On May 05 2019 23:11 Pandain wrote:
I want you to just imagine that Koshi plays the exact same for the next three days, and we mislynch twice and lose the game.
Did Koshi ever contribute?
Did Koshi ever push?
Did Koshi ever do anything meaningful?
And if the answer is no, is that what you expect from town yoshi, as demonstrated above?
I'm just sayin. There's bussing a teammate, and then there's bussing an entire team. In an atmosphere where there's A) innocent child townies, and B) blocs of townies voting together. And Pandain is ACTIVE and WATCHING it all, so it's not like he's ignorant of what's happening in the thread. Can we please address this before any more votes on Pandain?
What would you do with a team of inactives?
I’d sure as hell buss them all and become the town badass
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On May 07 2019 11:45 Grackaroni wrote:Show nested quote +On May 07 2019 11:43 VisceraEyes wrote:Like yes, Pandain said Koshi was super strong town that one time, but then look at all of this, AFTER the GF flipped... + Show Spoiler [There's quite a bit] +On May 05 2019 05:07 Pandain wrote:
Yes time to go into lurkers. Almost certain last two scum is within slam, koshi, FF, and MZ On May 05 2019 22:26 Pandain wrote:
Koshi is also a great lynch as well. Completely useless filter and hasn't pushed anyone ever. Has commented on some posts and that's it. On May 05 2019 22:48 Pandain wrote:It's just even if he's busy his posts just are complete trash. Compare them with last couple times he's been town. tl.nettl.netIn comparison, it's a lot more like times he's been mafia. tl.nettl.net On May 05 2019 22:49 Pandain wrote:
There's just a complete lack of caring about the game, something that does not at all appear in the two above linked games of him being town, but you can tell in the last two. On May 05 2019 23:11 Pandain wrote:
I want you to just imagine that Koshi plays the exact same for the next three days, and we mislynch twice and lose the game.
Did Koshi ever contribute?
Did Koshi ever push?
Did Koshi ever do anything meaningful?
And if the answer is no, is that what you expect from town yoshi, as demonstrated above?
I'm just sayin. There's bussing a teammate, and then there's bussing an entire team. In an atmosphere where there's A) innocent child townies, and B) blocs of townies voting together. And Pandain is ACTIVE and WATCHING it all, so it's not like he's ignorant of what's happening in the thread. Can we please address this before any more votes on Pandain? Yeah I know I said this earlier. I don't think Pandain would throw Koshi under the bus because Koshi actually had the potential to come back and carry scum team to victory.
Wtf weren’t you the guy who said koshi was so inactive and disinterested?
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On May 07 2019 11:46 VisceraEyes wrote:
Like you are ALL alive on that list EXCEPT for Koshi (because of me). And Pandain CHOSE KOSHI to push, instead of you all. You're telling me that you think that Pandain CHOSE to push Koshi, the roleblocker, as a ploy to get to this moment in time? WITHOUT THE KNOWLEDGE THAT I WAS SHOOTING KOSHI TONIGHT SO HE COULD CAPITALIZE ON ALL OF IT?!?!?!?!?!
Yes! Probably thought he’d have today to do so further as Koshi withdrew deeper and deeper
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On May 07 2019 11:50 Fecalfeast wrote:
VE is mafia vig kills his own roleblocker and tries super hard all game to sit on a throne of garbage as he claims MVP in a game with 2 modkills one being scum, a replacement, and a lynched town veteran. Not to mention slam and fecalfeast
Solved game
Holy shit
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On May 07 2019 11:56 VisceraEyes wrote:Show nested quote +On May 07 2019 11:36 VisceraEyes wrote:
That paranoid shit at this point in the game with so much actual content....I just don't see it.
MZ/Slam - What do you make of the fact that Pandain was among the few voices trying to draw attention to Koshi at an important time, after the GF had flipped? Show nested quote +On May 07 2019 11:43 VisceraEyes wrote:Like yes, Pandain said Koshi was super strong town that one time, but then look at all of this, AFTER the GF flipped... + Show Spoiler [There's quite a bit] +On May 05 2019 05:07 Pandain wrote:
Yes time to go into lurkers. Almost certain last two scum is within slam, koshi, FF, and MZ On May 05 2019 22:26 Pandain wrote:
Koshi is also a great lynch as well. Completely useless filter and hasn't pushed anyone ever. Has commented on some posts and that's it. On May 05 2019 22:48 Pandain wrote:It's just even if he's busy his posts just are complete trash. Compare them with last couple times he's been town. tl.nettl.netIn comparison, it's a lot more like times he's been mafia. tl.nettl.net On May 05 2019 22:49 Pandain wrote:
There's just a complete lack of caring about the game, something that does not at all appear in the two above linked games of him being town, but you can tell in the last two. On May 05 2019 23:11 Pandain wrote:
I want you to just imagine that Koshi plays the exact same for the next three days, and we mislynch twice and lose the game.
Did Koshi ever contribute?
Did Koshi ever push?
Did Koshi ever do anything meaningful?
And if the answer is no, is that what you expect from town yoshi, as demonstrated above?
I'm just sayin. There's bussing a teammate, and then there's bussing an entire team. In an atmosphere where there's A) innocent child townies, and B) blocs of townies voting together. And Pandain is ACTIVE and WATCHING it all, so it's not like he's ignorant of what's happening in the thread. Can we please address this before any more votes on Pandain? Show nested quote +On May 07 2019 11:43 VisceraEyes wrote:Like yes, Pandain said Koshi was super strong town that one time, but then look at all of this, AFTER the GF flipped... + Show Spoiler [There's quite a bit] +On May 05 2019 05:07 Pandain wrote:
Yes time to go into lurkers. Almost certain last two scum is within slam, koshi, FF, and MZ On May 05 2019 22:26 Pandain wrote:
Koshi is also a great lynch as well. Completely useless filter and hasn't pushed anyone ever. Has commented on some posts and that's it. On May 05 2019 22:48 Pandain wrote:It's just even if he's busy his posts just are complete trash. Compare them with last couple times he's been town. tl.nettl.netIn comparison, it's a lot more like times he's been mafia. tl.nettl.net On May 05 2019 22:49 Pandain wrote:
There's just a complete lack of caring about the game, something that does not at all appear in the two above linked games of him being town, but you can tell in the last two. On May 05 2019 23:11 Pandain wrote:
I want you to just imagine that Koshi plays the exact same for the next three days, and we mislynch twice and lose the game.
Did Koshi ever contribute?
Did Koshi ever push?
Did Koshi ever do anything meaningful?
And if the answer is no, is that what you expect from town yoshi, as demonstrated above?
I'm just sayin. There's bussing a teammate, and then there's bussing an entire team. In an atmosphere where there's A) innocent child townies, and B) blocs of townies voting together. And Pandain is ACTIVE and WATCHING it all, so it's not like he's ignorant of what's happening in the thread. Can we please address this before any more votes on Pandain? I said I'd allow it, not that I'd endorse it. I'd like anyone voting Pandain to answer these points.
Sorry I was gone so long m8.
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On May 07 2019 11:58 VisceraEyes wrote:Show nested quote +On May 07 2019 11:57 Fecalfeast wrote:
oh right, I'ma swap back to mz tbh, then slam then grack and we've won by the end? Surely.
Go lose then
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On May 07 2019 12:23 Grackaroni wrote:
Ok realistically I think there are only a few people that would ever night kill BC. Me/WBG/MZ
Me because he was scum reading me earlier and WBG/MZ because they are old-timey players with a lot of respect for BC's play.
I don't see Slam or FF making that NK choice.
Yeah QED I tried to flush out the scum !Pandain! By getting him pissed by calliung his precious kill he had to defend so hard in the thread a shit choice.
Yeah.
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On May 07 2019 12:25 Grackaroni wrote:
I don't think BC's play in this game was worth being night killed without any prior expectation from him.
He’ll I didn’t even really know he was in this tbh. Like I don’t think he posted at all while I was around.
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On May 07 2019 12:29 VisceraEyes wrote:
With Slam I got....maybe the mod didn't want to fuck Koshi by modkilling TWO mafia D2? Suspiciously inactive? *shrug*
No, they had NocturneMage too and I just said yes faster.
I am modconfirmed town.
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On May 07 2019 13:08 VisceraEyes wrote:There's a school of thought that says RNG is the like, ONLY way to reliably play the game, town or mafia. Towns have a higher chance of hitting mafia D1 based on RNG than they can reliably expect to hit a mafia via reads/consensus. The problem is that you'd need consensus to do RNG too so you never REALLY know unless you measure it. + Show Spoiler +They have, and I'm not sure about the percentages, but RNG wins the day slightly
*clap clap clap* HEY DON BIXLER ZAVALA CHANGE YOUR PASSWORD LOOKS LIKE BLAZINGHAND HACKED YOUR ACCOUNT
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