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On May 04 2019 12:24 BloodyC0bbler wrote:Show nested quote +On May 04 2019 12:22 wherebugsgo wrote:
The paranoia within me gives HF a good chance to flip scum. I don't really understand why others think he is town and he's done a phenomenal job at twisting words and misrepresenting events throughout the game. His responses to rebuttals are really underwhelming, he tends to pick one thing and blow it completely out of proportion, like the NK scumtell thing, me "not responding" to his case on Pandain after calling it trash, he fake claims cop and then just brushes it aside like "ah but nah but maybe not today but yeah I'm gonna try to be mysterious" and even rayn complained that when talking to HF he got nothing out of him, especially when rayn asked HF for his opinions about me. Question for you, then. Outside of fake claiming to kill you. Does he seem to be aggressively pushing targets right now?
He doesn't seem to be aggressive in pushing to me, no. I'd classify his play as opportunistic in this game.
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On May 04 2019 12:22 BloodyC0bbler wrote:Show nested quote +On May 04 2019 12:17 wherebugsgo wrote:On May 04 2019 12:16 BloodyC0bbler wrote:On May 04 2019 12:14 wherebugsgo wrote:On May 04 2019 12:07 BloodyC0bbler wrote:
bugs as for a questions for you.
Who would you say is currently controlling the flow of this game player wise? IE who has the most influence currently. no one. If I had to pick one player, the closest would be HF. Why HF over say VE? As of this moment I feel VE has the closest thing to thread control. HF is the only person in the thread who has consistently managed to get a wagon going. Jock, myself, Pandain. Why is he getting credit for Pandain and Jock?
Because bugs has some kind of block about me where he just thinks I'm useless every game. Don't mind bugs.
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On May 04 2019 12:26 VisceraEyes wrote:Show nested quote +On May 04 2019 11:58 BloodyC0bbler wrote:On May 04 2019 08:49 Pandain wrote:On May 04 2019 08:45 Holyflare wrote:On May 04 2019 07:56 Pandain wrote:On May 04 2019 07:54 Alakaslam wrote:On May 04 2019 07:53 Pandain wrote:On May 04 2019 01:45 VisceraEyes wrote:
It's a Jeep tell from MafiaScum, I'm sure I've explained it in your presence before.
Players who do things like congratulate the doctor on a successful save tend to be mafia. What Pandain is like the reverse of it, try to appear town by talking about how much it would suck to be mafia after the GF got killed. This is a horrible "tell" . Also it would suck to be mafia. Like I would be beyond pissed if I was mafia, especially if HF is actually cop and checked bugs (which I 100% doubt because Bugs seems super super town to me) how many mafia are left It's a good question. I can't help but think Doc actually saved someone or a vet got shot, because let's realize that only one person died. And I think it would be super weird for mafia to have 1kp. Anyway that doesn't answer your question. If I had to guess 2 more? Wtf kind of theory is this by the way? Where does it say anything about any kind of extra mafia kp role in op? Are you trying really badly to fake a dumb tell? I even had to read the op to make sure. I hooe you're impressed. No my point is that only one person died. So are we just assuming that mafia has one kp? Probably not, then town would be hugely advantaged. So the fact that only one person died suggests there was a medic save or a vet got shot. I know that HF posted this as a reason to vote for pandain. However with the mod confirmation of fixed 1 kp I am inclined to think this post alone would exonerate pandain. Why? Because if you have more information than the rest of the game (being mafia) you tend to be super careful in regards to talking about kp, being vague or what not. I don't see a player of pandains experience being mafia in this case. Fuck. 1kp fixed is in the OP BC I'm not accepting dumbtells at this time.
to be perfectly honest until the host came in and said fixed 1 kp I didn't even know that so *shrug*
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On May 04 2019 12:28 BloodyC0bbler wrote:Show nested quote +On May 04 2019 12:26 VisceraEyes wrote:On May 04 2019 11:58 BloodyC0bbler wrote:On May 04 2019 08:49 Pandain wrote:On May 04 2019 08:45 Holyflare wrote:On May 04 2019 07:56 Pandain wrote:On May 04 2019 07:54 Alakaslam wrote:On May 04 2019 07:53 Pandain wrote:On May 04 2019 01:45 VisceraEyes wrote:
It's a Jeep tell from MafiaScum, I'm sure I've explained it in your presence before.
Players who do things like congratulate the doctor on a successful save tend to be mafia. What Pandain is like the reverse of it, try to appear town by talking about how much it would suck to be mafia after the GF got killed. This is a horrible "tell" . Also it would suck to be mafia. Like I would be beyond pissed if I was mafia, especially if HF is actually cop and checked bugs (which I 100% doubt because Bugs seems super super town to me) how many mafia are left It's a good question. I can't help but think Doc actually saved someone or a vet got shot, because let's realize that only one person died. And I think it would be super weird for mafia to have 1kp. Anyway that doesn't answer your question. If I had to guess 2 more? Wtf kind of theory is this by the way? Where does it say anything about any kind of extra mafia kp role in op? Are you trying really badly to fake a dumb tell? I even had to read the op to make sure. I hooe you're impressed. No my point is that only one person died. So are we just assuming that mafia has one kp? Probably not, then town would be hugely advantaged. So the fact that only one person died suggests there was a medic save or a vet got shot. I know that HF posted this as a reason to vote for pandain. However with the mod confirmation of fixed 1 kp I am inclined to think this post alone would exonerate pandain. Why? Because if you have more information than the rest of the game (being mafia) you tend to be super careful in regards to talking about kp, being vague or what not. I don't see a player of pandains experience being mafia in this case. Fuck. 1kp fixed is in the OP BC I'm not accepting dumbtells at this time. to be perfectly honest until the host came in and said fixed 1 kp I didn't even know that so *shrug*
Ya I've pretty much already assumed everyone skipped the OP.
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VE, would you say what bugs just said about HF is true?
On May 04 2019 12:27 wherebugsgo wrote:Show nested quote +On May 04 2019 12:24 BloodyC0bbler wrote:On May 04 2019 12:22 wherebugsgo wrote:
The paranoia within me gives HF a good chance to flip scum. I don't really understand why others think he is town and he's done a phenomenal job at twisting words and misrepresenting events throughout the game. His responses to rebuttals are really underwhelming, he tends to pick one thing and blow it completely out of proportion, like the NK scumtell thing, me "not responding" to his case on Pandain after calling it trash, he fake claims cop and then just brushes it aside like "ah but nah but maybe not today but yeah I'm gonna try to be mysterious" and even rayn complained that when talking to HF he got nothing out of him, especially when rayn asked HF for his opinions about me. Question for you, then. Outside of fake claiming to kill you. Does he seem to be aggressively pushing targets right now? He doesn't seem to be aggressive in pushing to me, no. I'd classify his play as opportunistic in this game.
and if so? is that his standard town play? because my recollection of my recent encounter with him is that it isnt.
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Still not accepting dumbtells.
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On May 04 2019 12:27 VisceraEyes wrote:Show nested quote +On May 04 2019 12:22 BloodyC0bbler wrote:On May 04 2019 12:17 wherebugsgo wrote:On May 04 2019 12:16 BloodyC0bbler wrote:On May 04 2019 12:14 wherebugsgo wrote:On May 04 2019 12:07 BloodyC0bbler wrote:
bugs as for a questions for you.
Who would you say is currently controlling the flow of this game player wise? IE who has the most influence currently. no one. If I had to pick one player, the closest would be HF. Why HF over say VE? As of this moment I feel VE has the closest thing to thread control. HF is the only person in the thread who has consistently managed to get a wagon going. Jock, myself, Pandain. Why is he getting credit for Pandain and Jock? Because bugs has some kind of block about me where he just thinks I'm useless every game. Don't mind bugs.
I don't think you're useless, you're my strongest town ATM but I also am very aware of who has thread pull and who doesn't. You have thread pull, just not as much as HF. And in this game, while you have a lot more thread pull than others on relative terms, no one has any pull in absolute terms and that matters a lot. Like I said earlier in this game, reputation on this forum matters as well and I think it's often taken for granted.
I'm not feeling a Pandain lynch. I'm voting HF.
##unvote
##vote Holyflare
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On May 04 2019 12:29 BloodyC0bbler wrote:VE, would you say what bugs just said about HF is true? Show nested quote +On May 04 2019 12:27 wherebugsgo wrote:On May 04 2019 12:24 BloodyC0bbler wrote:On May 04 2019 12:22 wherebugsgo wrote:
The paranoia within me gives HF a good chance to flip scum. I don't really understand why others think he is town and he's done a phenomenal job at twisting words and misrepresenting events throughout the game. His responses to rebuttals are really underwhelming, he tends to pick one thing and blow it completely out of proportion, like the NK scumtell thing, me "not responding" to his case on Pandain after calling it trash, he fake claims cop and then just brushes it aside like "ah but nah but maybe not today but yeah I'm gonna try to be mysterious" and even rayn complained that when talking to HF he got nothing out of him, especially when rayn asked HF for his opinions about me. Question for you, then. Outside of fake claiming to kill you. Does he seem to be aggressively pushing targets right now? He doesn't seem to be aggressive in pushing to me, no. I'd classify his play as opportunistic in this game. and if so? is that his standard town play? because my recollection of my recent encounter with him is that it isnt.
Ehhhhh...I wouldn't say it's NOT opportunistic, but I'd have to dismiss a lot of analysis to say I could CLASSIFY it as opportunistic, no.
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I would argue that HF's playstyle simply IS opportunistic, NAI
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It's why I think HF's play is so strong - he mixes the old style of play where he can string more than three sentences together in a post with the newer style of play where he's aware of the thread and interacts with it a lot...and it comes across as opportunistic and scummy in a really general sense, so it makes him hard to read by default.
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On May 04 2019 12:29 VisceraEyes wrote:
Still not accepting dumbtells.
btw you should drop this subject, it is not clear from the OP what mafia KP is even if there's a hint to it in the mafia role descriptions. I asked the question about how KP is calculated in PMs. You know as well as I do that I carefully read the OP in every game. The proof of this is in the post where I mention the exact same thing you quoted from the OP.
At any rate, myself, Pandain, and BC can't all dumbtelling.
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Would you also say he is normally fairly aggressive/loud in pushing his views/opinions?
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On May 04 2019 12:34 VisceraEyes wrote:
It's why I think HF's play is so strong - he mixes the old style of play where he can string more than three sentences together in a post with the newer style of play where he's aware of the thread and interacts with it a lot...and it comes across as opportunistic and scummy in a really general sense, so it makes him hard to read by default.
he's not aware of the thread though, he's been consistently wrong about how events have unfolded and this has been pointed out several times already. Look at some of my rebuttals to him, for example. It's basically like he's coming in periodically, catching up and not actually spending time trying to figure out alignments, just finding surface-level things to nitpick and blow out of proportion.
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On May 04 2019 12:34 wherebugsgo wrote:btw you should drop this subject, it is not clear from the OP what mafia KP is even if there's a hint to it in the mafia role descriptions. I asked the question about how KP is calculated in PMs. You know as well as I do that I carefully read the OP in every game. The proof of this is in the post where I mention the exact same thing you quoted from the OP. At any rate, myself, Pandain, and BC can't all dumbtelling.
You can't all be dumb either. Whatever, I didn't bring it up BC did.
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On May 04 2019 12:36 wherebugsgo wrote:Show nested quote +On May 04 2019 12:34 VisceraEyes wrote:
It's why I think HF's play is so strong - he mixes the old style of play where he can string more than three sentences together in a post with the newer style of play where he's aware of the thread and interacts with it a lot...and it comes across as opportunistic and scummy in a really general sense, so it makes him hard to read by default. he's not aware of the thread though, he's been consistently wrong about how events have unfolded and this has been pointed out several times already. Look at some of my rebuttals to him, for example. It's basically like he's coming in periodically, catching up and not actually spending time trying to figure out alignments, just finding surface-level things to nitpick and blow out of proportion.
I'm actually going to do this, and it's hard on this forum to do that.
Shit like this is how you actually CATCH HF and I'm not super town on HF right now.
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On May 04 2019 12:34 BloodyC0bbler wrote:
Would you also say he is normally fairly aggressive/loud in pushing his views/opinions?
Yes.
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On May 04 2019 12:39 VisceraEyes wrote:Show nested quote +On May 04 2019 12:34 BloodyC0bbler wrote:
Would you also say he is normally fairly aggressive/loud in pushing his views/opinions? Yes.
caveat, he needs to be interested in the game. I've tried to make it interesting.
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BC you don't think Pandain is scum anymore. Care to take a stand on who you think is?
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as much as I'm afraid others think I'm pulling the wool over their eyes, I'm afraid of you pulling the wool over my eyes, BC :p
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Hmmmmmmm.......
Yeah, this back and forth you had with him is more interesting on reread. Gimme a couple more minutes, I've started like 3 posts on 4 tabs.
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