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Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
May 02 2019 13:20 GMT
#507
Where is everyone??
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
May 02 2019 14:16 GMT
#509
On May 02 2019 09:19 wherebugsgo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 02 2019 09:15 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Also why did you never ever push your read on MZ? Did you realise noone even got what your read was?


BC town, I didn’t push my read on MZ because I doubted myself and I also wasn’t insistent enough on maintaining a counter wagon.

Had Jock responded better to me I would have defended him very hard because I thought the meta case was really bad (also really HF, you should apologize for that reading comprehension insult LOL)


I hope this is bugs calling BC town because if it is then it's extremely hypocritical the way he called out my BC read or even asked me about BC in that way if we shared the same read.

He even spent some time criticising it!
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
May 02 2019 14:59 GMT
#514
On May 02 2019 23:48 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I am gonna make a more detailed post soon, i am in a bit of hurry rn.

HF, bugs is right about Pandain (vs your case). I don't think he ever called jock even mafia so i dont understand why it's scummy for him to look at the people on jock wagon. I need a clarification; when you said this:
Show nested quote +
On May 02 2019 06:25 Holyflare wrote:
Just kill whoever claimed jock was town. Easy game easy life.

who did you mean and why was this post so vaguely worded? Because the townread on jock was, to be completely honest, one of the easiest reads to make in this game.


On May 02 2019 00:44 Pandain wrote:
FIXED POST

I am confused about why Jock suddenly became an asshole in this thread when the last two games he was super nice and if anything apologetic. Also his blogs are fun to read so I'm sort of shocked. I don't think he's a bad lynch and might switch to him if the votes are close.

Also this is concerning:
Show nested quote +
On May 01 2019 11:23 Jockmcplop wrote:
On May 01 2019 10:35 wherebugsgo wrote:
On May 01 2019 10:29 Jockmcplop wrote:
On May 01 2019 08:54 Holyflare wrote:
Oh well nothing more to add really. I think jock is way out of character and the town read(s) are pretty unjustified here.


Out of character compared to when I was mafia?


You gonna ignore my previous post?

You should answer this, and don't even think about skipping any of the questions:

Can you define what makes people suspicious? What types of things are suspicious and why would they be indicators someone is mafia instead of town?

Have you read Incognito's guide? What do you think your #1 priority should be if you are a townie?


Regardless of your alignment, at your current rate, you should know you're going to be dead.

In addition to that, let's see your reads.


#1 priority as town for me is finding scum.


And then proceedes to be super lukewarm about scum reads and doesn't scumhunt at all.


On May 02 2019 00:45 Pandain wrote:
Fuck formatting is hard. Anyway originally I was lukewarm about him but now I think he's a good lynch especially for day 1.




On May 02 2019 01:02 Pandain wrote:
Dear Mr. BloodyC0bbler,

I think Jock is a good lynch but I'm keeping my vote on Rels at the moment. This is exactly what he did in End of the World as mafia (as you and I both know), and I also don't like his only post that said "me too!". It just seemed fake to me.

Furthermore, and maybe more importantly, it pressures him to come on in and talk. I would love if more people voted him if only for this reason.


Sincerely,
Pandain


Looks like scum read to me.

I made that post as a super off the cuff remark meaning he was a super easy vote to afk on if you were mafia and he looked way different to normal if you are town. I'm gonna have to disagree with you on how obvious a townie he was since you know, he got lynched.

People that are hesitant to go in on a free lynch look suspicious to me, especially as I remember them (pandain, mz too) agreeing with his lynch but not actually voting him.

Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
May 02 2019 15:28 GMT
#520
When did he say bc was mafia?
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
May 02 2019 17:36 GMT
#535
I feel like all of bugs suspicions are simply "did a guy that hasn't posted in days come back and post? No? Suspicious!"

I mean there's other suspicions sure but all of the others seem largely activity based even though he town read them before.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
May 02 2019 17:46 GMT
#537
Why don't you think mz is mafia?
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
May 02 2019 18:10 GMT
#543
On May 03 2019 02:57 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 03 2019 02:46 Holyflare wrote:
Why don't you think mz is mafia?

Because of his opening. I know you disagree with this but i fail to see a world where MZ comes into the game as mafia claiming he would do the same mistakes he was lynched (and almost lynched) for last (two) games. I just don't believe it because that would require huge balls and i am not sure if MZ has that big of balls as mafia.


Wait what mistake are you talking about?
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
May 02 2019 18:15 GMT
#546
Thanks for being my rock VE.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
May 02 2019 18:22 GMT
#552
Which begs the question, how did bugs come to the complete opposite conclusion filter diving?
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
May 02 2019 18:22 GMT
#554
On May 03 2019 03:21 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Please don't shoot me mafia because i am a veteran and i'd like to play another day because this game actually got very interesting in my opinion.


Dumb they have a rber they just gonna rb you
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
May 02 2019 19:46 GMT
#587
On May 03 2019 04:33 BloodyC0bbler wrote:
Mostly caught up at the moment.

Pandain/Grack are both shady to me thus far from what i've read. Mainly as both of them have been fairly active overall but the content they have both posted is basically non existent. This is very very similar to how Pandain posted in end of the world mafia. Ie situationally active and talks about things but never seriously pushes them. Trying to hard imo to appear as town while providing no effort. The next big tell for me is he actively agreed with the Jock Lynch but opted to vote for someone who hadn't started posting yet then swapped his vote with 0 stated reasons.

Grack literally had a filter of 0 content for how long it is so he is clearly around but not doing anything of value.


Although at this point I feel that one of HF/Rayn/Bugs could be mafia. Unsure of who. Bugs as mafia (in the past) when I have played with him has been super aggressive similar to how aggressive I can be and hes not this game. However I disagree with basically all his reads and I think he should be better than that.

I personally find reading HF and Rayn insanely hard and until I am 100% sure one of them is mafia I am not prepared for the potential shit storm that creates.


How can you not have a read on me when the 2 main people I've made cases on are/were BOTH your scum reads (pandain/jock) and I'm pushing bugs for what you're saying - that he's underwhelming?
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
May 02 2019 20:22 GMT
#604
this means bugs is definitely mafia :D
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
May 02 2019 20:23 GMT
#605
I don't know if I want to read into the choice to replace igrok and not vivax or not.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
May 02 2019 22:02 GMT
#619
On May 03 2019 07:01 wherebugsgo wrote:
Vivax literally only mentions FF and MZ in his filter. I think FF is 100% town


Okay, I'll just make this quick and painless for you.

wherebugsgo
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
May 02 2019 22:03 GMT
#621
literally the easiest game ever and they gave me the godfather for free
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
May 02 2019 22:46 GMT
#641
On May 03 2019 07:32 wherebugsgo wrote:
HF I think you played your hand too hard here

Show nested quote +
On May 02 2019 07:31 Holyflare wrote:
...
You say no, maybe only vivax.

Pandain comes up with reasons to vote vivax that don't really apply because vivax has proportional activity to normal since this thread isn't very long imo. Maybe he's busy? Who the fuck knows?
...


Show nested quote +
On May 02 2019 07:41 Holyflare wrote:
On May 02 2019 07:34 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Okay. I will let himself say what he has to say about that.
Why is Vivax not mafia?


When did I say vivax wasn't mafia? I don't think he's done anything good or awful. Similarly to you.


Show nested quote +
On May 02 2019 18:35 Holyflare wrote:
On May 02 2019 18:32 wherebugsgo wrote:
HF do you think any of MZ, Vivax, or BC are scum?


What a pointless trivial question which I've addressed already. Mz has posted shit all, could be anything. Vivax has done nothing to sway me one way or the other and didn't post anything I hated yet. BC has only made posts I've agreed with.

Rayn I can't believe you fell for my posts last night. Reread them as if I'm talking about actual insects :D

I will lynch bugs with you.



Show nested quote +
On May 02 2019 18:53 Holyflare wrote:
Koshi/bugs/rels/vivax/pandain

Based on bugs defence of pandain tempted to take pandain out but we'll see.

Koshi hit or miss kinda like what he posted but I trained him as mafia well and he's a complete non entity.


Show nested quote +
On May 02 2019 19:56 Holyflare wrote:
On May 02 2019 19:37 wherebugsgo wrote:
On May 02 2019 18:35 Holyflare wrote:
On May 02 2019 18:32 wherebugsgo wrote:
HF do you think any of MZ, Vivax, or BC are scum?


What a pointless trivial question which I've addressed already. Mz has posted shit all, could be anything. Vivax has done nothing to sway me one way or the other and didn't post anything I hated yet. BC has only made posts I've agreed with.

Rayn I can't believe you fell for my posts last night. Reread them as if I'm talking about actual insects :D

I will lynch bugs with you.



Rayn is this scum HF being fake aggressive or town HF who thinks he's posted something but actually hasn't?

I ask him about MZ, Vivax, and BC.

1. Up until this post, MZ is not at all mentioned in HF's filter. Here, HF doesn't take a stance.
2. HF did say the same thing about Vivax earlier, so sure, fine. But again, no stance.
3. "BC only made posts I've agreed with" no direct interaction besides that first weird mistake post HF had, we can come to this conclusion I suppose based on the fact that BC and HF both voted Jock but why should vote alignment matter in reading BC?

So why does HF say this is a pointless question when the only thing that HF actually said was #2?



1. What has mz done since that required me to take a stance on him? Like I said, he's done shit all. Also I quite categorically do mention him in my filter. I ask him when he's going to stop fannying around not voting Jock, which now Jock has flipped town makes him look more suspicious. Regardless, I don't have enough information because he just hasn't posted enough. If anyone says they can form an opinion on him they're either lying or wrong.

2. Yup.


BC, MZ, HF, at least one of you is town unless this is a bastard 4 scum setup. Come help me figure out the game while I'm still alive. As long as we're lynching me just assume I'm town. You can discard everything I say never, because I won't flip scum.

HF if I'm wrong about you and these are not massive scum tells of you defending Vivax for no reason but then putting him as scum for equally no reason, please do explain yourself. Why was Vivax so special, out of the "do nothingers" that he had such a great honour of being in your kill list?


If it wasn't clear I've red checked you. Good day.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
May 02 2019 22:50 GMT
#644
Well it doesn't matter if you believe me or not. We can just continue to play with our votes on him.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
May 02 2019 22:51 GMT
#647
I don't think you understand what a poe list is bugs. Pretty poor that you kept pushing it :D
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
May 02 2019 22:52 GMT
#648
On May 03 2019 05:22 Holyflare wrote:
this means bugs is definitely mafia :D

Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
May 02 2019 22:52 GMT
#649
Hm didn't realise there was miller too. Pretty shit if it's gf miller though.
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