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On May 02 2019 20:47 Holyflare wrote:
I... Don't seem to have any reads? Wtf? I think pretty much I'm one of the only people in this game to even make cases on my mafia reads.
everyone, please take note again.
HF lists five players here:
On May 02 2019 18:53 Holyflare wrote:
Koshi/bugs/rels/vivax/pandain
Based on bugs defence of pandain tempted to take pandain out but we'll see.
Koshi hit or miss kinda like what he posted but I trained him as mafia well and he's a complete non entity.
Literally no justification on any of these except Pandain. And even on Pandain, because now I'm arguing with HF he is tempted to take Pandain out (?)
Koshi: hit or miss (but scum...?)
Vivax, says this:
On May 02 2019 18:35 Holyflare wrote:Show nested quote +On May 02 2019 18:32 wherebugsgo wrote:
HF do you think any of MZ, Vivax, or BC are scum? What a pointless trivial question which I've addressed already. Mz has posted shit all, could be anything. Vivax has done nothing to sway me one way or the other and didn't post anything I hated yet. BC has only made posts I've agreed with. Rayn I can't believe you fell for my posts last night. Reread them as if I'm talking about actual insects :D I will lynch bugs with you.
but listed as scum.
rels: called meta on rels incorrect but lists him above. In fact, part of the attack on Pandain was this supposed incorrect meta read on rels.
read on me: wrong
now trying to spin as if he has reads because in the lowest of low activity games he's the only one to have posted a "case".
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This is gross misrepresentation. Just because I have an arbitrary list of unexplained reads doesn't mean I don't have reasons for them. Those reasons might be poe but hey ho. It's more a list of non town reads than actually being mafia.
With regards to the people I actually push, the ones that now actually matter (you and pandain) I have posted my thoughts quite well and elaborated. Pretty obvious.
I don't go into your filter where you pick out the list of like 3-4 people you said contains mafia and say omg unexplained reads no way do I? Pretty petty if you ask me.
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I am not going to be around for deadline. Here are my reads for anyone interested:
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I mean it's really fucking obvious it's poe too :D
Literally in the next post
On May 02 2019 18:58 Holyflare wrote:
And all those shitty afkers and ff I guess but pointless trying to include those shitters yet.
Interestingly ff left pandain out of his read list.
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On May 02 2019 21:12 Holyflare wrote:
This is gross misrepresentation. Just because I have an arbitrary list of unexplained reads doesn't mean I don't have reasons for them. Those reasons might be poe but hey ho. It's more a list of non town reads than actually being mafia.
With regards to the people I actually push, the ones that now actually matter (you and pandain) I have posted my thoughts quite well and elaborated. Pretty obvious.
I don't go into your filter where you pick out the list of like 3-4 people you said contains mafia and say omg unexplained reads no way do I? Pretty petty if you ask me.
everyone, please take note again.
HF has an "arbitrary list of unexplained reads", into which are lumped two people HF is calling scum, while responding almost simultaneously to my question about one of those unexplained reads (Vivax) saying that Vivax could go either way because they haven't done anything?
How can it be PoE if HF has two people who supposedly haven't done anything (Vivax and MZ) but one is in the "arbitrary list" and not the other?
Even if HF had reasons, HF didn't divulge them when asked, and then backpedaled with a non-answer when called out on it.
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It's a list of people I think are mafia and people I think could be mafia. Some of them are unexplained, some of them I think sounded towny but it's not out of their mafia range. Not very hard to understand and it's pretty awful that you're trying to paint it as scummy.
I'm extremely hopeful that other people will see how obviously mafia you are and sheep me after your petty attacks.
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Page 21. I'll catch up when I am home.
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On May 02 2019 09:19 wherebugsgo wrote:Show nested quote +On May 02 2019 09:15 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Also why did you never ever push your read on MZ? Did you realise noone even got what your read was? BC town, I didn’t push my read on MZ because I doubted myself and I also wasn’t insistent enough on maintaining a counter wagon. Had Jock responded better to me I would have defended him very hard because I thought the meta case was really bad (also really HF, you should apologize for that reading comprehension insult LOL)
I hope this is bugs calling BC town because if it is then it's extremely hypocritical the way he called out my BC read or even asked me about BC in that way if we shared the same read.
He even spent some time criticising it!
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This is the funniest mafia analysis I've ever seen. I told you Bugs was an oddball.
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Thug life: 23 pages mafia - 1.13 don't think per page 21 don't think total 169 think 7.34 per page
noir 19 pages mafia 0.78 per page 15 don't think 181 think 9.5 per page
end of the world 9 pages mafia 1 per page don't think 57 think 6.3 per page
time to die 30 pages town 1.35 per page 40 don't think 280 think 9.33 per page
##mafia 15 pages town 1.7 per page 26 don't think 159 think 10.6 per page
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Fwiw I think that I use the words I think more frequently than Pandain.
I really like to get the point across that I'm thinking so that nobody else can doubt it.
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I am gonna make a more detailed post soon, i am in a bit of hurry rn.
HF, bugs is right about Pandain (vs your case). I don't think he ever called jock even mafia so i dont understand why it's scummy for him to look at the people on jock wagon. I need a clarification; when you said this:
On May 02 2019 06:25 Holyflare wrote:
Just kill whoever claimed jock was town. Easy game easy life.
who did you mean and why was this post so vaguely worded? Because the townread on jock was, to be completely honest, one of the easiest reads to make in this game.
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On May 02 2019 20:04 wherebugsgo wrote:
Do you filter everyone before you ask them a simple question?
Yes, why wouldn't you?
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On May 02 2019 23:48 raynpelikoneet wrote:I am gonna make a more detailed post soon, i am in a bit of hurry rn. HF, bugs is right about Pandain (vs your case). I don't think he ever called jock even mafia so i dont understand why it's scummy for him to look at the people on jock wagon. I need a clarification; when you said this: Show nested quote +On May 02 2019 06:25 Holyflare wrote:
Just kill whoever claimed jock was town. Easy game easy life. who did you mean and why was this post so vaguely worded? Because the townread on jock was, to be completely honest, one of the easiest reads to make in this game.
On May 02 2019 00:44 Pandain wrote: FIXED POST I am confused about why Jock suddenly became an asshole in this thread when the last two games he was super nice and if anything apologetic. Also his blogs are fun to read so I'm sort of shocked. I don't think he's a bad lynch and might switch to him if the votes are close. Also this is concerning: Show nested quote +On May 01 2019 11:23 Jockmcplop wrote: On May 01 2019 10:35 wherebugsgo wrote: On May 01 2019 10:29 Jockmcplop wrote: On May 01 2019 08:54 Holyflare wrote:
Oh well nothing more to add really. I think jock is way out of character and the town read(s) are pretty unjustified here. Out of character compared to when I was mafia? You gonna ignore my previous post? You should answer this, and don't even think about skipping any of the questions: Can you define what makes people suspicious? What types of things are suspicious and why would they be indicators someone is mafia instead of town?
Have you read Incognito's guide? What do you think your #1 priority should be if you are a townie? Regardless of your alignment, at your current rate, you should know you're going to be dead. In addition to that, let's see your reads. #1 priority as town for me is finding scum. And then proceedes to be super lukewarm about scum reads and doesn't scumhunt at all.
On May 02 2019 00:45 Pandain wrote:
Fuck formatting is hard. Anyway originally I was lukewarm about him but now I think he's a good lynch especially for day 1.
On May 02 2019 01:02 Pandain wrote:
Dear Mr. BloodyC0bbler,
I think Jock is a good lynch but I'm keeping my vote on Rels at the moment. This is exactly what he did in End of the World as mafia (as you and I both know), and I also don't like his only post that said "me too!". It just seemed fake to me.
Furthermore, and maybe more importantly, it pressures him to come on in and talk. I would love if more people voted him if only for this reason.
Sincerely,
Pandain
Looks like scum read to me.
I made that post as a super off the cuff remark meaning he was a super easy vote to afk on if you were mafia and he looked way different to normal if you are town. I'm gonna have to disagree with you on how obvious a townie he was since you know, he got lynched.
People that are hesitant to go in on a free lynch look suspicious to me, especially as I remember them (pandain, mz too) agreeing with his lynch but not actually voting him.
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Yeah the last sentence is what i want Pandain to answer to. I agree with you on that because he was actually very wishy-washy on jock.
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On May 01 2019 09:25 Grackaroni wrote:
Scum has a pretty natural tendency towards appeasement when under pressure. I don't think scum's first reaction to being accused would be to shit on the entire player base of the website and boast about getting night killed in the last game. I feel pretty confident at reading butt-hurt and he reeks of butt-hurt townie to me.
like this is the exact same analysis i had on jock at the time. regardless of if he got lynched or not this is completely true and once again very easy read to make. but people tend to want lynch bad instead of mafia, especially since the game is so slow.
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If there is a vigilante who shoots anyone else other than Vivax i am going to be super sad.
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I also find it remarkable that bugs now thinks BC is mafia because all BC did D1 was to push on a person bugs himself did think was mafia.
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The fact that BC was wrong in itself should have no impact on BC's alignment yet he goes from town to almost sure scum.
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When did he say bc was mafia?
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