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wherebugsgo
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Japan10647 Posts
May 07 2019 07:33 GMT
#1777
I just got back to my hotel for reals and I think now I can sleep so...

Night. I’m probably not getting a reread before flip though, and I’m in meetings around that time. Might have time between 6-9:30 a.m. PST, ask me questions if you have something weird and want my opinion on it
wherebugsgo
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Japan10647 Posts
May 07 2019 07:36 GMT
#1780
On May 07 2019 16:33 VisceraEyes wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 07 2019 16:31 wherebugsgo wrote:
I stand by my statement that everyone not me is scum

Actually sorry me and VE are scum together, the hosts just fucked up and gave VE the wrong gun and gave me a VT pm but we figured out in the end we’re supposed to be scumbuddies

This conclusion literally makes more sense than the rest of the game so far

You keep coming back and not commenting on my posts. Are you ignoring me because you know I'm town? That would make me very sad.


No, I actually literally just don’t have the time to read them now. I’ve gone airport -> work -> drop bags -> out -> back now to hotel with like no breaks in between. And I woke up something like 32 hours ago. Want my opinion on something specific?
wherebugsgo
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Japan10647 Posts
May 07 2019 07:41 GMT
#1784
MZ had a please don’t mod kill me return post n1 IIIRC. I don’t care to speculate on that but if someone else does be my guest.

I agree on principle that not voting to the point of risking modkill is townier on average
wherebugsgo
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Japan10647 Posts
May 07 2019 07:46 GMT
#1786
I think the disproof of that argument isn’t far though, it’s name is Vivax the...godfather? wtf even happened there anyway

On May 06 2019 08:33 Grackaroni wrote:
We can’t believe a fake claim because town can just counter claim and win


This post has been bothering me ever since I read it. Maybe I’m thinking too hard but what townie ever finds themselves thinking this deeply about this?

And in a semi-open setup how often does that actually happened? Just cause Koshi got sort of burned by it it’s on his mind?
wherebugsgo
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Japan10647 Posts
May 07 2019 07:53 GMT
#1791
On May 07 2019 16:51 Pandain wrote:
I don't actually get the post. He was saying that we don't have to worry about fake claims because town can just counter claim?


I agree with this interpretation, because you were fear posting on the claim calls.

Like grack must not be playing the same game because he commented earlier about rayn fake claiming veteran. And he, I assume, witnessed HF actually flip veteran.

So what happened there? If that hypothetical had played out with both of them alive in this situation we get a counterclaim and lynch a townie?
wherebugsgo
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Japan10647 Posts
May 07 2019 08:07 GMT
#1797
thanks for your input friends. I’m on board with that.

Btw if FF is somehow scum here that is some amaze balls play. Read his progression on slam today, and how he’s posted about Pandain. If he’s faking that level of uncertainty I just don’t know, he deserves to win the game as scum I guess.

Unless someone can tell me that yes, FF has done something like scum I’m happy to consider him town here.
wherebugsgo
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Japan10647 Posts
May 07 2019 08:09 GMT
#1798
*FF has done something like THAT as scum

Just don’t see a mafia doing a read progression like that in someone the rest of the game is mostly marking as unreadable
wherebugsgo
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Japan10647 Posts
May 07 2019 08:19 GMT
#1799
MZ -> grack -> slam

...???

If we get to #3 it’s slam FF Pandain probably at LYLO

if we kill MZ -> slam -> grack it’s FF Pandain grack

Likewise FF pandain MZ if MZ is last

hmm.

wherebugsgo
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Japan10647 Posts
May 07 2019 08:26 GMT
#1800
Pandain who would you lynch if it was you, FF and MZ at lylo
wherebugsgo
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Japan10647 Posts
May 07 2019 09:34 GMT
#1814
looks like someone read my thing about metas

I take back what I said about FF's read swap on slam, he actually didn't state a reason for it and I'm just stupid. My memory and jetlag are fucking with me.

There are a few things I'm reading from Meapak that actually just don't make sense to me if they're from scum perspective. Hopefully he's around tomorrow. Also he consistently attacked FF today which is interesting to me as well.
wherebugsgo
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Japan10647 Posts
May 07 2019 09:35 GMT
#1815
On May 06 2019 17:11 Pandain wrote:
I think FF is town. I think he's one of those players who is always hard to read so my read isn't that strong, but he's been contributing original and genuine points, not just making useless points, and seems to be playing different than his last two scum games.


Pandain can you explain this post
wherebugsgo
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Japan10647 Posts
May 07 2019 09:37 GMT
#1816
On May 05 2019 04:41 Fecalfeast wrote:
So....

I think I'm on team HF which is annoying because I said I'm always down to lynch HF...

Shenanigans onto MZ would be sick

wherebugsgo
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Japan10647 Posts
May 07 2019 09:46 GMT
#1819
so FF is on the lynch MZ train right away as is sort of expected given that AFAICT he never town read MZ once prior to this day. But why does he so quickly get off MZ after his responses when the rest of town hasn't budged?

Like that seemed premature to me, just autoswap to Pandain as soon as MZ posted something pseudo decent.
wherebugsgo
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Japan10647 Posts
May 07 2019 09:48 GMT
#1822
okay I'm gonna sleep on this but I like where this is going and want to create a second wagon to force this discussion.

If we're going to make this decision it should be on the merits of what stands before us and not on momentum. And besides the more people get talking the better anyway, and FF hasn't done enough of that yet.

FF would you be willing to kill yourself today so that we have an easier time deciding who to kill tomorrow? Like if you let us kill you now it's basically guaranteed to be MZ right?

##vote FecalFeast
wherebugsgo
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Japan10647 Posts
May 07 2019 09:50 GMT
#1823
my delirium has morphed into lucidity so I think my time has come to sleep
wherebugsgo
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Japan10647 Posts
May 07 2019 09:52 GMT
#1824
also grack better unwaste his vote quickly
wherebugsgo
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Japan10647 Posts
May 07 2019 14:00 GMT
#1838
I think Pandain's analysis is mostly pretty good but I don't think it's a slam dunk. If you look for counter examples, you can find them, but like Pandain mentioned they're rare. I haven't had the time to check whether I think they're more common as scum or not but for instance:

From End of the World Party Mafia:
https://tl.net/forum/mafia/542541-end-of-the-world-party-mafia?page=194#3873

From Classic Mafia
https://tl.net/forum/mafia/542541-end-of-the-world-party-mafia?page=194#3873

noteworthy on classic is that he promised a post on someone else (TickTock?) and t hen never did it, so even as town he did something "scummy"
wherebugsgo
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Japan10647 Posts
May 07 2019 14:31 GMT
#1849
On May 07 2019 23:21 Pandain wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 07 2019 23:00 wherebugsgo wrote:
I think Pandain's analysis is mostly pretty good but I don't think it's a slam dunk. If you look for counter examples, you can find them, but like Pandain mentioned they're rare. I haven't had the time to check whether I think they're more common as scum or not but for instance:

From End of the World Party Mafia:
https://tl.net/forum/mafia/542541-end-of-the-world-party-mafia?page=194#3873

From Classic Mafia
https://tl.net/forum/mafia/542541-end-of-the-world-party-mafia?page=194#3873

noteworthy on classic is that he promised a post on someone else (TickTock?) and t hen never did it, so even as town he did something "scummy"

You linked the same post.

But re: end of the world mafia that's a just post defending himself. Not an actual anaylsis or substantial post or push .It's qualitatively different than what he does here and in other mafia games.


Yeah, good point. I think the one for classic mafia was he was doing this thing where anyone who asked him a player to look at would get a post, so that one isn’t really the same either. He only posted that one anyway.

I’d relink that but I’m phoneposting now and lazy
wherebugsgo
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Japan10647 Posts
May 07 2019 14:57 GMT
#1854
Actually FF will not convince me, that boat sailed when he abandoned the thread cause I’m abandoning it now too. If he flips scum gg no re if not I’ll be back later tonight PST, maybe drop in sporadically from phone if I have time.
wherebugsgo
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Japan10647 Posts
May 07 2019 15:08 GMT
#1856
On May 08 2019 00:00 VisceraEyes wrote:
Bugs if it's over GG man. Thoroughly enjoyed this.


pleasure was all mine to get carried.

Even if we lose that shot goes down as the sickest vig shot I’ve ever seen

+ Show Spoiler +
well different kind of sick but besides that one time in responsibility mafia, where everyone and their mother was a vig and I got shot for “spamming” now really gtfoh I’m still salty
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