EPT[N] Uninspired Mafia - Page 100
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Pandain
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VisceraEyes
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And conversely from Slam, he DOES mention Koshi pretty regularly, as early as D1 drawing attention to him. Yeah. Between the two, I think it's pretty easily Slam. | ||
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VisceraEyes
United States21171 Posts
On May 08 2019 20:57 Pandain wrote: I would lynch Grack then slam. Why the opposite conclusion? | ||
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wherebugsgo
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On May 08 2019 04:27 Grackaroni wrote: I would be super ok with FF > MZ > Bugs This post bothered me the most Idk though, is grack faking not having full info here? Like there are surrounding posts that look okay to me. | ||
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Pandain
United States12989 Posts
It's also part of why Slam is suspicious. He has 8 pages of filter and I don't actually think one is a good post. I mean he's a spammer but is he normally this bad? | ||
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wherebugsgo
Japan10647 Posts
Like I don’t really get the progression and it makes you look really scummy. I can’t get over how it seems you’re always on the right side of the lynch eventually in terms of opinions, but as far as I can tell you have little to no influence in the lynch beforehand. You don’t really participate in the discussions I’d expect you to participate in, and you kind of just shit on people’s posts from the periphery. Why did you accuse Pandain of trying to bus Vivax d1 when you also sheeped that same vote? idk. Just talk it out here, I’m rather confused because I don’t find clear takeaways about your reads. | ||
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Pandain
United States12989 Posts
You can read my prior post on grack here: On May 06 2019 06:53 Pandain wrote: I don't like this post at all. First of all, the last sentence is extremely and obviously false, and looks like he's just trying to make up stuff. The idea I felt forced by Rayn to vote Vivax is extremely ridiculous and I'm not sure how anyone actually can come to that conclusion, particuarly since he was there when it was happening. But second of all, and more importantly, it actually reveals his own mindset during the lynch. Grack, in his own words, thought there was very little chance of Vivax dying. Unlike me, and it basically completely negates his own vote on Vivax. This also makes no sense. I was trying to get as much credit as possible from the bus? But actually I was only able to get credit because Vivax was modkilled, something no one could have predicted day one. And in his own words, "Vivax was very unlikely to get lynched." So in that scenario I would have never gotten any credit (because no flip), and instead I would have just thrown Vivax under the bus for day 2. Trying to sheep Rayn's analysis, which is the same exact thing mafia koshi tried to do. Seems mafia was trying to get people to follow dead town Rayn's analysis, and Grack is doing the same thing here. I also don't like how he hardcore defended HF and said he's super obviously townie. This is the weakest of my points. But I don't think it was actually obvious and there were lots of good points made against him. I think dismissing them like this suggests inside knowledge. Anyway just some thoughts. I'm going to do meta analysis tomorrow if I have time. Still not placing a vote but definitely more suspicious of Grack. Slam is useless. Whether it's because of time or because he's mafia, he's been useless. His filter is so sporadic and random I don't even understand many of his posts. So I want to lynch him, but there's just a huge element of randomness that I would want to do it last. | ||
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Pandain
United States12989 Posts
I'm more bewildered by Slam than anything else. But if he coasts to victory as mafia as the "hahaha, I'm so busy and random LOL" I'm going to actually lose it. | ||
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Pandain
United States12989 Posts
Complains about time but uses it uselessly 1. Whole last day was going through HF filter (why would we even think HF is accurate, and I think town has been pretty good so far on Vivax and Koshi even though they didn't die from getting lynched). It was all useless and spammy and pointless an Wanted to vote me and never ever justified it. Even said he wanted to martyr Like half his posts are spam, 1/4 are HF posts, and 1/4 are about me. But he never justified it even after I asked him. But is this because he's mafia or because he's just useless? | ||
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Pandain
United States12989 Posts
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Pandain
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If you are able to have 8 pages you are not "low on time", at least not enough to the point where you are this useless and incapable of doing a single actual analysis. Both as town and mafia, it's inexcusable to have the amount of useless spam, sheeping, and generally uncomprehensible material. | ||
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VisceraEyes
United States21171 Posts
On May 08 2019 21:20 Pandain wrote: When your main argument against him is "he never mentioned Koshi!" you know that it's a pretty weak argument. And it's not because he's not mafia, it's because there's literally nothing in the filter you can analyze. He might as well not have posted at all than post 8 pages, it's the same result. I disagree with your premise. Koshi flipped as the mafia team's most important role. Especially given their only other role was modkilled. Slam replacing in and then proceeding to ignore Koshi entirely, while everyone else who's alive today had at the very least mentioned Koshi or drawn attention to him at the time, is entirely damning in my eyes. | ||
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Pandain
United States12989 Posts
Grack pops in during the HF lynch to say: On May 05 2019 02:10 Grackaroni wrote: What the fuck guys. Holyflare's filter is super super townie. But he later admits he hadn't even read the case on him: On May 05 2019 02:54 Grackaroni wrote: I'm reading through your filter atm VE so I'll see what your case on HF is. | ||
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wherebugsgo
Japan10647 Posts
Can you both tell me what you see that indicates MZ is town? I don’t get that. If you have time, try to meta read MZ, just like two games is fine. If activity is a factor use a recent game, he’s played recently, right? | ||
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wherebugsgo
Japan10647 Posts
Would you kill grack or MZ? In a (me/Pandain), you, grack world who would you kill? What about (me/Pandain) you, MZ? | ||
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VisceraEyes
United States21171 Posts
So D2 the mindset of the last remaining mafia is 'God I hope my RB doesn't die before a cop comes out' and 'God I hope Koshi doesn't get lynched tonight so we can RB HF in the night.' | ||
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VisceraEyes
United States21171 Posts
Man fuck this game I'm done. | ||
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VisceraEyes
United States21171 Posts
*makes wiping motion and throw away motion* Good luck boys. | ||
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wherebugsgo
Japan10647 Posts
On May 08 2019 21:28 Pandain wrote: And I really really don't like how certain Grack was on HF. I mean we know that bugs, BC, VE, and FF were all town and they thought there were serious concerns. Grack pops in during the HF lynch to say: But he later admits he hadn't even read the case on him: I agree on this, particularly as prior to that I didn’t have the impression that grack was closely following the game. If he were more present, I’d buy that he’d been reading and had come to some conclusion, but if that were the case he’d have tried to interact with us and slow down the momentum. Every time grack has some resistance to a lynch though that resistance doesn’t seem to be real/come in a townie fashion. I think townies would interject whenever necessary to prevent mislynches. I’m not getting that impression. There are lots of other factors at play here though. Like I’ve seen bad things in both grack’s and MZ’s play and one has to be town | ||
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Pandain
United States12989 Posts
And it's ok VE, I led the lynch away from MZ/Grack/Slam towards someone a townie most people were already reading as town :p. We wouldn't even have to be worrying about this if I hadn't made the FF post. | ||
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