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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
March 05 2019 07:25 GMT
#3023
On March 05 2019 15:36 Mr. Wiggles wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 05 2019 15:30 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Who was the guy who was super interested in Jockmcplop's mafia terminology?

Acro asked Jock three times if this was his first mafia game, looking at his filter.

Sounds like throwing a bone of shade like "someone please pick up on this and be suspicious of him".
Why the fuck would Jock start the game by going to scum QT with "hi team, first tell me mafia terminology so i can make posts"???
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
March 05 2019 07:28 GMT
#3024
On March 03 2019 15:24 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
The only snag in my mind is why did he even bother telling the thread. If he legitimately hasn't read his role PM what advantage does it buy him as town to tell the thread about it. Like if you want your play to be "neutral" (which as palmar noted is a strategy that is inherently advantageous to mafia) why tell the thread what you're doing. That said I like the idea of policy lynching someone playing a strategy that is blatantly anti town. I'm going to vote Palmar for mayor and suspend my own campaign.

Why did you write this sentence?
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
March 05 2019 07:29 GMT
#3025
I am like 99% sure that Meapak knows Sentinel is town.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
March 05 2019 07:40 GMT
#3031
On March 05 2019 16:38 rsoultin wrote:
actually yeah i'm a numbnuts if bh is town like i suspect conv is probably never scum here anyway even though i'd rather have kept a truffle blue role or not lol >< i'm doing the stupid right now on not enough sleep. gonna shower and probably come back to all this later in the day

also, rayn, you may be right on mz being scum and sent being town and thus mz knowing sent's alignment, but i don't think the bolded sentence means anything if i'm understanding where you're going right? that's a pretty normal english construction

You mean it's a pretty normal english construction that he asks what Sentinel gains as town when he (Sentinel) doesn't know he is town? Damn your language...
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
March 05 2019 07:43 GMT
#3035
Nah it's okay there aren't really any answer except that he brainfarted his alignment and twisted his sentence there.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
March 05 2019 07:44 GMT
#3036
I mean like he tried to "prove" Sentinel is more likely to be scum or at least good lynch.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
March 05 2019 07:50 GMT
#3040
On March 05 2019 16:47 Chezinu wrote:
rayn!!!!! YOU ARE SUPPOSE BE LIKE CHEZ IS MAFIA!!! Then force me to scumhunt!!!! Then I start making my list and we gets the mafia!!!! Whys you no answer me questions!!?

Only on D2 or after, sorry bro.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
March 05 2019 07:51 GMT
#3042
On March 05 2019 16:50 AMG wrote:
Rayn, is there any players in particular you'd like my thoughts on? Im only on page 19 so far, but I can give someone a filter dive and let you know if anything jumps out at me, otherwise I can just store my thoughts until I catch up eventually and post everything then.

Any of these:
Mr. Wiggles, BloodyC0bbler, tubesock, AMG, darthfoley, Grackaroni, Onegu, Fecalfeast, Damdred.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
March 05 2019 07:52 GMT
#3044
Preferrably yourself ofc
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
March 05 2019 07:55 GMT
#3047
On March 05 2019 16:53 Chezinu wrote:
Who wants to party like your not going to die this night with me?

Me me me me!! But you must include one of iamperfection and marv! Otherwise i am out, those two are too sexy (but ofc not as sexy as me).
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
March 05 2019 07:58 GMT
#3050
On March 05 2019 16:56 marvellosity wrote:
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On March 05 2019 16:18 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Whoever said Acrofales was trying to do something during EoD is completely wrong, he was never doing anything, that was just headless running from one place to another with no fucking direction.

He might be mafia, he kinda strongly said conversion was mafia right after the flip but then didn’t reference me at all once I’d started posting, thought it was a bit weird

Me and iamp made cases / scumread-posts on him earlier in the game in case you wanna check them out.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
March 05 2019 08:01 GMT
#3052
No takers. Hi
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
March 05 2019 08:07 GMT
#3056
marv:

On March 03 2019 20:10 raynpelikoneet wrote:
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On March 03 2019 20:02 Palmar wrote:
Like why the fuck are you complaining about Acro doing legwork on lurkers, what the hell is that?

Because giving a list of liek 10 people and calling all of them scum or "let's lynch them" and not havign a single read on anyone else doesn't actually accomplish anything. Like earlier he made a big post which said:
1) rsoultin shouldnt be any alignment atm
2) bc shouldnt be any alignment atm
3) hell everyone should be on your watchlist
4) Grack made a useless list post as first entry and then fucked off again. It seemed quite a lot like scum doing stuff to "seem active"

---> continues making lurker list posts after that all game

You and i are almost at the same timezone so you can prolly see what Acro had posted until the timestamp of this post. Also one of the reasons why i scumread Palmar. He just flushed it away for no reason and didn't even wanna discuss it while just a while ago he wanted to discuss people with me.

Here is iamp:

On March 04 2019 03:56 iamperfection wrote:
Acrofails is mafia.

I have mentioned his first post but i will mention it again because it makes my case longer and you guys like cases longer so it is easier for you to sheep

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On March 02 2019 16:17 Acrofales wrote:
I just started reading and 3 pages in stopped again. From this point onwards, I will be operating on a lynch all liars policy, because holy shit, mafia claims are the dumbest things I have ever seen. So yeah. Claim mafia beyond this point and I'll assume it's the truth. I also refuse to read anything else up to here, unless someone specifically points me somewhere in the first 23 pages worth reading.

Now can we keep the postcount reasonable? This isn't a mini, and I'm going sailing all weekend and have a deadline on Monday.

Thanks.

Acrofales, the townie.


Playing thread cop when announcing that your going to be away is illogical especially for someone like acro. This is a person that has had a 50 page filter before and he was also full of shit he has come back to the thread to post drivel several times. It also shows he isn't reading the thread correctly because he is scum. Thoses " claims" were clearly jokes and acro cant understand that because he knows who is scum.

He is also making reads but they aren't really reads.

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On March 03 2019 06:30 Acrofales wrote:
On March 03 2019 03:06 Tictock wrote:
On March 02 2019 19:54 rsoultin wrote:
Also, even though I'm using the mayor slot to demonstrate where my townreads are, it's pretty irrelevant. Regardless of who we pick they should just be held accountable for lynching who town wants to lynch -shrugs-

Or are you suggesting rayn that we just leave that to the mayor and not simply use it as a second lynch mechanic?


100% agree with this. Going off this logic Rsoul would be my vote for Mayor.

Also, just enjoying this interaction between Rayn and Rsoul.

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On March 02 2019 20:33 Holyflare wrote:
If anyone cares my reads align with rsoul. I think. Chez suspicious. Guy posting catch ups was it trfel? Seemed mediocre and not any revelations. Iamp piggybacking me suspicious. Don't care if I like what he's said about people non-posting. That's easy to do.

Didn't like rayn that much tbh. He seems to not be saying much but talking in walls of text and circles.

I dunno I'm sorry I'm a bit shit right now but whatever.


Pretty sure that's me, and I don't give a shit kus you always seem to hate the way I interact with the game.

I also strongly disagree about Rayn, I see him pushing his own thoughts and thinking and explaining why, nothing circular at all.

HF seems to be posting to post and I don't like it, but it's not really a scum read right now. It's just him coasting.

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On March 02 2019 20:35 rsoultin wrote:
Like for me it breaks down like this:

You've got trolling people. You've got lurking people. You've got lazy people. You've got some overly aggressives that aren't giving me warm fuzzies (MP). You've got people I'm not sure about who when I'm not sure about them have a nasty habit of being scum (Rayn) but because he's burned me so often I'm not sure if that's not where the uncertainty's coming from.

And then you have seemingly excited to play, I respect the shit out of his intelligence Chez playing but not saying anything interesting. That first group can hide a lot of bad town play. But doing something without doing anything ticks off my scum meter to a higher degree.

Rsoul is starting to convince me... Idk. I don't particularly want to lynch Chez myself but I get where her read is coming from, and I am not opposed to a Chez lynch.

#540
Bloody's entry doesn't jive well with me, but mostly due to their reads being pretty opposite to my own. I can sorta see the logic in Bloody's reads, but it's very much in a scum-range of what to post to enter the game. Gut read leans scum, but I think deserves more to be on my watch list.




Speaking of my Watch List, I think it's something like this right now:
Meap
Grack
Jock
Mr. Wiggles
Acro
Bloddy
HF (just not comfortable with him just floating around the game making no impact, yet being relatively present)

Rels is also close to being on this list for "playing" but only making a "Hi" post then laughing at something rayn did. He only escapes this list because I know he has actively avoided playing D1 as town in recent games. It's the fact that he tried to play a little but didn't actually that almost has him on it.


I don't agree with much of this, but I do like the post.

1) Rsoultin is posting easy reads and not actually doing much poking. I don't know how she'd go on anybody's town reads so far, and definitely nowhere near mayor material.

2) Cobbler posted some reads and something provocative, and gave time for them to answer. I liked his first post and will wait for more. The fact that he's aggressive seems fine. Not going to do anything meta with it, because the last time I played mafia is probably 4 years ago or so and while I remember playing with Cobbler I can't for the life of me remember his alignment. I do remember him being aggressive tho, but not abusive.

3) Everybody should be on your watch list. We are not even halfway though D1... but if I take it to mean a list of people who are posting suspiciously, the only ones I agree with is Grack. I don't understand the list anyway without justifications.

Grack made a useless list post as first entry and then fucked off again. It seemed quite a lot like scum doing stuff to "seem active". And I remember Grack being quite a useful player, so I agree with you there. The rest? Haven't even seen a post by Wiggles, Meepack seems no worse than most people, and Jock I'd say more clueless town than anything else. Cobbler see above, and HF actually seems to be trying some things too.

Does he think rsoultin is mafia i dont know can you tell? i certainly cant he is just showing shade without taking any real stance. Mafia hate making real reads because its hard when you have to "make them up" . Same think with cobbler he makes a somewhat read but its nothing if you really read.

He then goes into coaching and then makes a scum read but has to add some nonsense he dosent really want to convince anyone to do anything really.

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On March 03 2019 17:09 Acrofales wrote:
On March 03 2019 16:48 rsoultin wrote:
On March 03 2019 16:32 Acrofales wrote:
On March 03 2019 16:28 rsoultin wrote:
On March 03 2019 16:26 Acrofales wrote:
K, 1 1/2 hours of morning posts before I'm sailing all day again.

Summary of the night:

##mayor Palmar


zzz

this is why the sent push is pointless

Why is this pointless? Walk me through it. I disagree with lynching sent (although I do want him dead). I'm all for putting that responsibility squarely on Palmar's shoulders.

And no, waiting til n1 to start playing the game seriously is not acceptable as town.


36? players. You either believe him about his role pm blahness or don't. If you don't, by all means push it. If you do it's boring. People won't lynch Chez on the assumping he can be vig'd. So can this guy.

And mostly it's an easy thing to agree with and excuse not doing anything else, innit?

Though props for not being that guy at least.


People won't lynch Chez because they don't think he's obviously scum. So if you want to lynch Chez make a better case than he's RPing the brown, because if you actually read his posts there's some decent amount of effort into understanding the game there, IMHO.

Sent is different. Let's assume he's telling the truth. In that case the only ppl who know his alignment are scum. If he's scum then they'll try to save him and if he isn't they'll try to kill him. Lynching him is not the best option, because there's far too much confusion in that wagon to get any information.

Now let's assume he's lying. I can't think of a town reason for doing this, and so he's scum. The rest is similar to above.

Enters Palmar: he claims to feel strongly about killing sent. So let him do it. All you need to decide is if Palmar is townie enough. But if we decide Palmar is townie enough to be mayor then he is free to kill whoever he likes. He sticks with sentinel and sentinel flips scum? We win, yay! Sheep Palmar into Armageddon. Sentinel flips town? We figure out if Palmars policy lynch is an ideological thing or a scum thing. Either way, we get information about Palmar out of this, which is a great thing to get out of D1.





This post is ultra scummy. His stance on palmar reeks of having extra information one way or another. Palmar saying he is going to just policy lynch and fuck off should be called out by acro but instead he takes a wait and see approach because he dosent really care how it turns out. Acro is good player and he should be shitting on palamr for saying he is going to fuck off. Instead he says we will figure it out but dosent really suggest how to do it. Shouldnt he be puhing palmar now? why wait. he dosent really want to figure out palmars alignment because he already knows what it is.



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On March 03 2019 17:52 Acrofales wrote:
Going out again til late. Let's lynch Track. If not him, at least someone in this list:
2) Fecalfeast
8) Oatsmaster
9) WaveofShadow
11) sicklucker
17) ExO_
19) [UoN]Sentinel
20) Grackaroni28) Trfel
30) Mr. Wiggles


not really pushing anything and has several other posts where he attacks low hanging fruit just to feign activity. Acro is mafia and that is who i will vote for.

I want all of you to comment on my case and vote acro.




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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
March 05 2019 08:07 GMT
#3057
On March 05 2019 17:07 marvellosity wrote:
What’s meapak not doing here that he normally would as town rayn?

First filter I looked at this game because it would be fun if I got to lynch him.

I ask for meta because ‘old hands not doing that much’ describes almost all of them

I don't know i genuinely have zero meta on Meapak that i remember.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
March 05 2019 08:10 GMT
#3058
Here is what i originally accused Meapak on:
On March 02 2019 11:26 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 02 2019 11:20 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
On March 02 2019 11:15 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On March 02 2019 11:10 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
On March 02 2019 11:02 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I am still wondering why Meapak clinged onto LS' post on not being masons with Damdred since given his attitude towards Trfel and Conversion Damdred's post of being masons should be 100% more concerning to him.

I find LS to be oddly apologetic with his play rn, Damdred didn't claim scum (which I view as inherently anti town) so I don't really care about his play, I just find it weird that LS wanted to blow it up so fast.

This is what I'm talking about when I say "apologetic"
On March 02 2019 10:15 LightningStrike wrote:
On March 02 2019 10:14 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
On March 02 2019 10:12 LightningStrike wrote:
On March 02 2019 10:08 Fecalfeast wrote:
Vote me for mayor. I will be the arbiter of truth and justice

But how do we know that you're town here?

You don't, which is why you gotta vote for me since I'm advocating lynching the hella confirmed scum.

You're ruining the fun man Not like I was asking someone to use my gun to kill a 2nd game lol.....


On March 02 2019 10:23 LightningStrike wrote:
But HF it's just the start of the game I trying to have some fun



On March 02 2019 10:33 LightningStrike wrote:
Me and Damdred aren't masons even though I wish we were masons



On March 02 2019 10:38 LightningStrike wrote:
On March 02 2019 10:36 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
On March 02 2019 10:33 LightningStrike wrote:
Me and Damdred aren't masons even though I wish we were masons

Y u say this?

Because I speakign the truth? I wish I could be masoned with Damdred one of these games.


Then why didnt you say so in the first place, because that's not what you said earlier, you just made a question about his comment.

What's the difference with Trfel/Conversion making a comment (true or fake) about being mafia than Damdred lying about being masons? I mean do you think it's somehow less anti-town to lie about your role at the start of the game than making an obvious joke about being mafia (note that i am not saying mafia couldn't do that -- but giving your attitude towards these same sort of happenings in the thread i can't for my life understand why LS (most likely) tellign the truth is somehow more suspicious than Damdred (most likely) lying?

Yes because I legitimately want him to answer the question, I've already outlined why I didn't like the comment, I wanted to hear his reason.

And yes I do think it's significantly less anti town to claim a town roll in the beginning of a game when people are trolling rather than claim scum. That's more of a personal opinion so you can feel free to disagree but I think the type of information you can get from people with something like what Damdred said is far more valuable than what Trfel/Conversion said.

As an aside, it's not that I'm suspicious about LS for telling the truth, more with the tone that he's addressing things.

My problem basically is that if i put myself into your shoes i would have said LS sounds apologetic if i thought so rather than some random question about him telling the assumed truth. He gave you the most obvious answer (anyone would give regardless of their alignment) and you just let it be until someone else -- in this case me -- brought the issue up.

That doesn't sit well with me. To me it looks more like you made a mistake and changed your story after someone brought the issue up. But we'll see.

And then there is the Sentinel thing. I have nothing else on Meapak. Conversion and Tumblewood had stuff on him also at the beginning of the game but i think he explained those things reasonably and i have no problems with those explanations.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
March 05 2019 08:14 GMT
#3062
sicklucker how does game open up if Holyflare flips town?
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
March 05 2019 08:15 GMT
#3063
Or mafia.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
March 05 2019 08:17 GMT
#3065
On March 05 2019 17:11 marvellosity wrote:
Acro cases decent tbh

And that's the point when everyone and their mom started scumreading me because Holyflare said not so. Funny isn't it?
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
March 05 2019 08:21 GMT
#3070
On March 05 2019 17:17 sicklucker wrote:
well im confident he is the mathematical lynch. im more confident hes a good lynch then any amount of my sad reading ability can comprehend. So im not really motivated to find mafia since a very likely mafia is in line. IF he flips town then I can try hard to save the game for town by finding mafia and not getting lynched. If he flips mafia I can kill you. Untill hes dead no motivation

Can you answer my question about how the game opens up in case Holyflare is town? Or mafia?
Also do you think Blazinghand is mafia?
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
March 05 2019 08:22 GMT
#3072
On March 05 2019 17:21 marvellosity wrote:
The trouble is, if hf is town (or even mafia) it’s so easy for mafia to hide on the kill him train

True because i am probably the only person in the game aside from himself who doesn't want to kill him rn.
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