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[UoN]Sentinel
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United States11320 Posts
March 04 2019 20:07 GMT
#2201
On March 05 2019 05:05 Acrofales wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 05 2019 05:03 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:
On March 05 2019 05:01 Acrofales wrote:
On March 05 2019 05:00 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:
On March 05 2019 04:54 Acrofales wrote:
On March 05 2019 04:45 Mr. Wiggles wrote:
What's with the BH train? If you want to kill a hardcore lurker like that why not use the mayor lynch? I don't see the benefit

Because BH is not your typical lurker. IMHO it's like foolishness or sandroba lurking. They hate playing scum, so just don't.

Even assuming this is true the only way this makes sense is if we have absolutely no other candidates to lynch. BH has barely defended himself and he's barely posted in the thread which means we barely get any information when we learn his role except maybe who sheeped his vote.

I'd rather lynch scum than "information". God, you're really trying to dig yourself into this hole, aren't you? :O

No, you'd rather pick an easy lynch based off activity rather than trying to figure out who all the scum are.

Lol. Hi pot.

Here are my scumreads rn

LS
Damdred
Tictock
Trfel

I'm fine with lynching any of the four and I want whoever I do lynch to say as much as they can before they die so that maybe I can learn something useful
Нас зовет дух отцов, память старых бойцов, дух Москвы и твердыня Полтавы
iamperfection
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9645 Posts
March 04 2019 20:07 GMT
#2202
On March 05 2019 05:07 rsoultin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 05 2019 05:04 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:
Conversion seems more like busy townie with 1 scum read who tries to push that scum read as some sort of contribution to the thread rather than active scum lurker

If only because I've been busy with interviews as well

??? That's completely not my take.

Vote bh
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=406168&currentpage=78#1551
iamperfection
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9645 Posts
March 04 2019 20:08 GMT
#2203
On March 05 2019 05:07 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 05 2019 05:05 Acrofales wrote:
On March 05 2019 05:03 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:
On March 05 2019 05:01 Acrofales wrote:
On March 05 2019 05:00 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:
On March 05 2019 04:54 Acrofales wrote:
On March 05 2019 04:45 Mr. Wiggles wrote:
What's with the BH train? If you want to kill a hardcore lurker like that why not use the mayor lynch? I don't see the benefit

Because BH is not your typical lurker. IMHO it's like foolishness or sandroba lurking. They hate playing scum, so just don't.

Even assuming this is true the only way this makes sense is if we have absolutely no other candidates to lynch. BH has barely defended himself and he's barely posted in the thread which means we barely get any information when we learn his role except maybe who sheeped his vote.

I'd rather lynch scum than "information". God, you're really trying to dig yourself into this hole, aren't you? :O

No, you'd rather pick an easy lynch based off activity rather than trying to figure out who all the scum are.

Lol. Hi pot.

Here are my scumreads rn

LS
Damdred
Tictock
Trfel

I'm fine with lynching any of the four and I want whoever I do lynch to say as much as they can before they die so that maybe I can learn something useful

Vote bh
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=406168&currentpage=78#1551
Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25559 Posts
March 04 2019 20:08 GMT
#2204
On March 05 2019 05:06 iamperfection wrote:
Bh is unacceptable and he has had plenty of time to do something productive he is scum


Well, my lack of activity being unacceptable? absolutely.

If you think that "BH is inactive when he is scum" is even close to a correct heuristic you must have never played with me, or seen or hosted or observed any game I'm in. Come on, dude, you know that isn't true. Be a man and vote me on policy. Don't make false statements about my meta.
When you stare into the iCCup, the iCCup stares back.
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Ace
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States16096 Posts
March 04 2019 20:08 GMT
#2205
On March 05 2019 05:01 Blazinghand wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 05 2019 04:59 iamperfection wrote:
Even you aren't this bad you have to be scum


Show nested quote +
On March 05 2019 04:59 Acrofales wrote:
On March 05 2019 04:52 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:
On March 05 2019 04:48 Trfel wrote:
Voting Palmar for mayor because of all of the mayors' targets I want to see [UoN]Sentinel lynched most. Him having a townread on himself while claiming to have not read his role PM is super suspicious, moreso the more I think about it. Other than his huge list post he hasn't shown much thought at all, he's been just following the thread sentiment. His overall play makes his effort seem fabricated. A few reasons being quoting my reasoning in one area while highly scumreading me in another, and more importantly not seeming at all invested in his reads. If he put all that effort into reading and making his scumreads, he wouldn't not actually push those reads and follow the thread sentiment like a headless chicken. It feels forced, and like he's trying to use the effort to prove he's town.

##Mayor Palmar

Catching up but nearly everything in this post is either wrong or disingenuous

BH isn't in this game and unless this is some sort of last minute ploy to get him to come out, seeing as we've got 4 hours to deadline I don't approve of wasting a vote on a player who isn't even around to defend himself

Turns out he was here all along, lurking until his train took out from the station. If he flips scum, I'm looking at you next.


I just didn't expect this game to be so high in activity. I gave up on reading the thread and just did a couple searches of my name to see who was talking to me. Since I don't have an important role and I don't think I'll ever be able to catch up with all this, I figure I might as well be lynched first. Even if I'm spared, how will I catch up on these scores of pages? I don't know how I did this in the past, tbh.


Dang homie. I remember you being fun to play with. Don't give up so early ^_^
Math me up, scumboi. - Acrofales
[UoN]Sentinel
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United States11320 Posts
March 04 2019 20:11 GMT
#2206
On March 05 2019 05:07 rsoultin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 05 2019 05:04 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:
Conversion seems more like busy townie with 1 scum read who tries to push that scum read as some sort of contribution to the thread rather than active scum lurker

If only because I've been busy with interviews as well

??? That's completely not my take.

Is your take still based off the mafia joke he made? It's def an awkwardly worded post but I think people are too anal about "I'm mafia" jokes for that post to really have an effect on me
Нас зовет дух отцов, память старых бойцов, дух Москвы и твердыня Полтавы
iamperfection
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9645 Posts
March 04 2019 20:11 GMT
#2207
On March 05 2019 05:08 Blazinghand wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 05 2019 05:06 iamperfection wrote:
Bh is unacceptable and he has had plenty of time to do something productive he is scum


Well, my lack of activity being unacceptable? absolutely.

If you think that "BH is inactive when he is scum" is even close to a correct heuristic you must have never played with me, or seen or hosted or observed any game I'm in. Come on, dude, you know that isn't true. Be a man and vote me on policy. Don't make false statements about my meta.

I don't give a shit about your meta.

You somehow mayor vote palmar when you haven't read at all he didn't play untill page 40
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=406168&currentpage=78#1551
iamperfection
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9645 Posts
March 04 2019 20:12 GMT
#2208
Kill bh he is full of crap he is scum
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=406168&currentpage=78#1551
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
March 04 2019 20:12 GMT
#2209
On March 05 2019 04:34 Acrofales wrote:
Hey Holyflare, is your mayorial shank still aimed straight at Palmar's heart? If so, this mayor train that's forming up on you is pretty damn troubling.


Nobody piled onto me and nobody really went to save palmar so I've learnt either mafia don't care or palmar shouldn't die.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
March 04 2019 20:13 GMT
#2210
On March 05 2019 05:12 Holyflare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 05 2019 04:34 Acrofales wrote:
Hey Holyflare, is your mayorial shank still aimed straight at Palmar's heart? If so, this mayor train that's forming up on you is pretty damn troubling.


Nobody piled onto me and nobody really went to save palmar so I've learnt either mafia don't care or palmar shouldn't die.


I will create interesting things though.
iamperfection
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9645 Posts
March 04 2019 20:13 GMT
#2211
Skimmed to page 20 but mayor votes palmar kill with fire
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=406168&currentpage=78#1551
Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25559 Posts
March 04 2019 20:13 GMT
#2212
On March 05 2019 05:11 iamperfection wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 05 2019 05:08 Blazinghand wrote:
On March 05 2019 05:06 iamperfection wrote:
Bh is unacceptable and he has had plenty of time to do something productive he is scum


Well, my lack of activity being unacceptable? absolutely.

If you think that "BH is inactive when he is scum" is even close to a correct heuristic you must have never played with me, or seen or hosted or observed any game I'm in. Come on, dude, you know that isn't true. Be a man and vote me on policy. Don't make false statements about my meta.

I don't give a shit about your meta.

You somehow mayor vote palmar when you haven't read at all he didn't play untill page 40


It's a policy vote and you know it. Admit it. Be a man.

I looked in the vote thread and saw someone had voted for him for mayor, and Palmar's a decent player, so I voted for him too. I figured it would be productive.

I don't even know why i'm arguing, I'm fine dying. I just hate people saying wrong things
When you stare into the iCCup, the iCCup stares back.
TL+ Member
iamperfection
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9645 Posts
March 04 2019 20:14 GMT
#2213
On March 05 2019 05:13 Blazinghand wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 05 2019 05:11 iamperfection wrote:
On March 05 2019 05:08 Blazinghand wrote:
On March 05 2019 05:06 iamperfection wrote:
Bh is unacceptable and he has had plenty of time to do something productive he is scum


Well, my lack of activity being unacceptable? absolutely.

If you think that "BH is inactive when he is scum" is even close to a correct heuristic you must have never played with me, or seen or hosted or observed any game I'm in. Come on, dude, you know that isn't true. Be a man and vote me on policy. Don't make false statements about my meta.

I don't give a shit about your meta.

You somehow mayor vote palmar when you haven't read at all he didn't play untill page 40


It's a policy vote and you know it. Admit it. Be a man.

I looked in the vote thread and saw someone had voted for him for mayor, and Palmar's a decent player, so I voted for him too. I figured it would be productive.

I don't even know why i'm arguing, I'm fine dying. I just hate people saying wrong things

I don't believe you
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=406168&currentpage=78#1551
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
March 04 2019 20:14 GMT
#2214
On March 05 2019 05:07 Trfel wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 05 2019 05:02 Tumblewood wrote:
On March 05 2019 04:48 Trfel wrote:
Voting Palmar for mayor because of all of the mayors' targets I want to see [UoN]Sentinel lynched most. Him having a townread on himself while claiming to have not read his role PM is super suspicious, moreso the more I think about it. Other than his huge list post he hasn't shown much thought at all, he's been just following the thread sentiment. His overall play makes his effort seem fabricated. A few reasons being quoting my reasoning in one area while highly scumreading me in another, and more importantly not seeming at all invested in his reads. If he put all that effort into reading and making his scumreads, he wouldn't not actually push those reads and follow the thread sentiment like a headless chicken. It feels forced, and like he's trying to use the effort to prove he's town.

##Mayor Palmar

this post feels as if you haven’t read in the last 50 pages but feel obligated to have at least 1 Informed Scum Read anyway
That's not one of my stronger scumreads. That's the best of limited options.
Show nested quote +
On March 05 2019 05:01 rsoultin wrote:
On March 05 2019 04:55 Trfel wrote:
On March 05 2019 04:51 rsoultin wrote:
On March 05 2019 04:48 Trfel wrote:
Voting Palmar for mayor because of all of the mayors' targets I want to see [UoN]Sentinel lynched most. Him having a townread on himself while claiming to have not read his role PM is super suspicious, moreso the more I think about it. Other than his huge list post he hasn't shown much thought at all, he's been just following the thread sentiment. His overall play makes his effort seem fabricated. A few reasons being quoting my reasoning in one area while highly scumreading me in another, and more importantly not seeming at all invested in his reads. If he put all that effort into reading and making his scumreads, he wouldn't not actually push those reads and follow the thread sentiment like a headless chicken. It feels forced, and like he's trying to use the effort to prove he's town.

##Mayor Palmar


:/ you feel off this game to me. there was a glimmer of truffledom and now it's gone again. you're not doing the truffle waffle
It's not my choice of targets? I can choose between [UoN]Sentinel and Palmar, I'm confident I much prefer [UoN]Sentinel, no need to waffle. If I was the mayor myself I'd probably go with Fecalfeast or maybe sicklucker. You're townreading Fecalfeast off of tone, right?


yeah it's mostly just him doing whatever the fuck and pointing out some things i agreed with at the time + damdy is usually pretty good at reading him and thinks he's town (though i think his read on him gets better later?)
Would you be willing to take another look? I don't actually feel like he's been pointing things out at all, just been repeating reads that others have already made, he hasn't been sharing his own thoughts. As far as the rest of it goes, he's really just been asking to be mayor, after the early portion of the game anyway. He's gotten worse as the game goes on in that regard.


I'll agree that his early game looks better than his late game, and there are less reads there than I remember but I don't think he's more likely to be scum than say conv, LS or you. His chez read was where my head was at and I randomly like his read on me in his list post lol ><
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25559 Posts
March 04 2019 20:14 GMT
#2215
Yeah, I think it was that I saw the most recent vote for mayor was for Palmar when I played my vote, so I just made a vote for Palmar. If someone else is a better choice than Palmar let me know.
When you stare into the iCCup, the iCCup stares back.
TL+ Member
iamperfection
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9645 Posts
March 04 2019 20:14 GMT
#2216
On March 05 2019 05:14 rsoultin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 05 2019 05:07 Trfel wrote:
On March 05 2019 05:02 Tumblewood wrote:
On March 05 2019 04:48 Trfel wrote:
Voting Palmar for mayor because of all of the mayors' targets I want to see [UoN]Sentinel lynched most. Him having a townread on himself while claiming to have not read his role PM is super suspicious, moreso the more I think about it. Other than his huge list post he hasn't shown much thought at all, he's been just following the thread sentiment. His overall play makes his effort seem fabricated. A few reasons being quoting my reasoning in one area while highly scumreading me in another, and more importantly not seeming at all invested in his reads. If he put all that effort into reading and making his scumreads, he wouldn't not actually push those reads and follow the thread sentiment like a headless chicken. It feels forced, and like he's trying to use the effort to prove he's town.

##Mayor Palmar

this post feels as if you haven’t read in the last 50 pages but feel obligated to have at least 1 Informed Scum Read anyway
That's not one of my stronger scumreads. That's the best of limited options.
On March 05 2019 05:01 rsoultin wrote:
On March 05 2019 04:55 Trfel wrote:
On March 05 2019 04:51 rsoultin wrote:
On March 05 2019 04:48 Trfel wrote:
Voting Palmar for mayor because of all of the mayors' targets I want to see [UoN]Sentinel lynched most. Him having a townread on himself while claiming to have not read his role PM is super suspicious, moreso the more I think about it. Other than his huge list post he hasn't shown much thought at all, he's been just following the thread sentiment. His overall play makes his effort seem fabricated. A few reasons being quoting my reasoning in one area while highly scumreading me in another, and more importantly not seeming at all invested in his reads. If he put all that effort into reading and making his scumreads, he wouldn't not actually push those reads and follow the thread sentiment like a headless chicken. It feels forced, and like he's trying to use the effort to prove he's town.

##Mayor Palmar


:/ you feel off this game to me. there was a glimmer of truffledom and now it's gone again. you're not doing the truffle waffle
It's not my choice of targets? I can choose between [UoN]Sentinel and Palmar, I'm confident I much prefer [UoN]Sentinel, no need to waffle. If I was the mayor myself I'd probably go with Fecalfeast or maybe sicklucker. You're townreading Fecalfeast off of tone, right?


yeah it's mostly just him doing whatever the fuck and pointing out some things i agreed with at the time + damdy is usually pretty good at reading him and thinks he's town (though i think his read on him gets better later?)
Would you be willing to take another look? I don't actually feel like he's been pointing things out at all, just been repeating reads that others have already made, he hasn't been sharing his own thoughts. As far as the rest of it goes, he's really just been asking to be mayor, after the early portion of the game anyway. He's gotten worse as the game goes on in that regard.


I'll agree that his early game looks better than his late game, and there are less reads there than I remember but I don't think he's more likely to be scum than say conv, LS or you. His chez read was where my head was at and I randomly like his read on me in his list post lol ><

Why are you ignoring bh?
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=406168&currentpage=78#1551
Mr. Wiggles
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Canada5894 Posts
March 04 2019 20:15 GMT
#2217
On March 05 2019 04:50 iamperfection wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 05 2019 04:45 Mr. Wiggles wrote:
What's with the BH train? If you want to kill a hardcore lurker like that why not use the mayor lynch? I don't see the benefit

How can you not understand the train unless your scum.

We have a lynch vote where people have to take a stance and justify themselves, and a mayor lynch where scum can push final responsibility away onto the mayor.

Let the mayor kill the scummy lurker, vote to lynch more established cases that actually generate information. w
We have three or four of them.
you gotta dance
Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25559 Posts
March 04 2019 20:15 GMT
#2218
On March 05 2019 05:12 iamperfection wrote:
Kill bh he is full of crap he is scum


This is a much better reason to scumread me! If I'm BSing, I might be scum. You're learning, good.
When you stare into the iCCup, the iCCup stares back.
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Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
March 04 2019 20:15 GMT
#2219
On March 05 2019 04:23 Pandain wrote:
I haven't read the last thirty or so pages and I won't have time.

Thoughts were that fecalfeast seemed clearly reading and active in the thread but completely contentless. I don't think we should be looking to lynch someone extremely active as well.

I had a spreadsheet I was working on, I'll post my more important notes from there.

Has spreadsheet. Is town.
I had a good night of sleep.
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
March 04 2019 20:16 GMT
#2220
On March 05 2019 05:07 iamperfection wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 05 2019 05:07 rsoultin wrote:
On March 05 2019 05:04 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:
Conversion seems more like busy townie with 1 scum read who tries to push that scum read as some sort of contribution to the thread rather than active scum lurker

If only because I've been busy with interviews as well

??? That's completely not my take.

Vote bh


Dude, there's four hours. I'm fine voting BH but let me do my thing. You're annoying me and you didn't even have the courtesy of answering my question -_-
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
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