Newbie Student Mafia XXIX

On September 08 2018 21:06 Koshi wrote:
Qatol Qatol Qatol.

Potentially you are just a friendly guy. I don't trust friendly guys.

Friendly. Slimy. Friendly. Pocketing. Who knows who knows.

On September 09 2018 01:57 Vivax wrote:
I don't think Sergio is mafia. But he seems to be a bit of a dick if he asks rayn to play nice then proceeds to call Koshis posts trash. I think Koshi is rather townie.

I think we should lynch RoL, cause RoL always flips mafia.

##Vote RoL

On September 10 2018 07:29 Sergiovan wrote:
Prplhz: why is RoL the best of the inactive ark lynch?

On September 10 2018 07:35 Sergiovan wrote:
Cause that feels like a losing stratagy to me

On September 10 2018 23:44 Qatol wrote:
Now my questions for others.

Prplhz: why did you ask me to do that explanation?

On September 12 2018 00:45 Vivax wrote:
I already think we should lynch Damdred for the empty promise. You aren't here on D1? Okay. But you are here on D2 and then you deliver an empty promise? That's not ok. You should usually be capable of doing at least a tiny little bit more as town. And I know you tend to give yourself away as mafia with posts that contain a lot of things that superficially look good and in depth turn out to be extremely inconsistent with each other. Maybe you know that, maybe you avoid posting for that reason.

Either way, as town you usually have the drive to put out at least a minimum of thoughts when you say you would. So for me, you wander right into scum pile with the little I have read and think you should be today's lynch.

##Vote Damdred

On September 12 2018 04:29 Sergiovan wrote:
Damdred: I would be content with a Damdred lynch. He appeared in the thread promised to be useful and then hasn’t reappeared.

On his own he is my third in line for the lynch.

Though the Prplhz sheep of Vivax makes me uncomfortable I still think Damdred looks scummy on his own.

On September 12 2018 04:46 Sergiovan wrote:
Prplhz: how do you feel about Meapak’s entrance into the thread?

On September 12 2018 04:55 Qatol wrote:

As odd as it is to say considering you wound up voting for me, thank you. This is the post I was looking for, though I disagree with the result (as I still don't think HF's argument made any sense and I still don't think Koshi found me scummy when he died). I'm taking this as a strong statement of "fed up townie who doesn't know what to think after defending himself for 2 pages."


This is also true, and was exactly what I was thinking getting to this point. 1-2 votes on a bunch of different people is ridiculously easy for the mafia to manipulate. As I posted earlier, lynching an inactive is just silly.

That includes Damdred. If he doesn't post by this time day 3, I'm fine with a lynch on him. Until then, we have no idea why he didn't come back and his disappearance says nothing to us about whether or not he's mafia.

Of the people with votes right now, I would most prefer a lynch of Vivax. I could live with a Rels lynch. I'm also not comfortable with how heavily prplhz has been defending/sheeping Vivax all game (post 266, post 291, post 355). He said:

So prplhz decided to latch onto Vivax? What exactly makes you (prplhz) think Vivax is town? What makes you think he's good at finding scum?

On September 12 2018 05:40 Qatol wrote:

Which push against the Kaley lynch? Which arguments? The ones he later admitted were part of "a crappy feels-read?"
Or maybe this one?

If that's the case, why are you pushing for what is effectively a policy lynch on damdred now? Note that Vivax called rayn's policy vote a "shitty vote" in the post I quoted.

On September 12 2018 07:51 Qatol wrote:
Is anyone else active right now? I'm still not comfortable lynching damdred. I still think this is basically a policy lynch and the math isn't in support of it.

On September 12 2018 06:29 Sergiovan wrote:
Prplhz I still want your response to my Vivax case.

On September 11 2018 23:53 KelsierSC wrote:
Nothing is happening in D2, literally no one is posting.

The only thing I have to work with is the Koshi night kill so I posted my thoughts on it, even asking for people to link me posts where koshi hinted at blue and I get called mafia and people saying "what the heck is this"

I am voting sergio at the start of the day because of the Koshi nightkill and my own thoughts on D1. I still have vivax as scum but im using the new information for my vote.

However as there hasn't been anything contributed this day and we have a bunch of AFK's i would rather lynch one of those NOW. I haven't unvoted sergio yet.

On September 12 2018 00:40 KelsierSC wrote:
I could lynch anyone apart from you and rayn.

On September 13 2018 16:25 KelsierSC wrote:


I'm thinking why vivax was killed, he was town read by some and scum read by some, however his major scum read after damdred was Qatol and only activity was saving him.







These quotes show he is setting himself up to lynch whatever AFK is town and win, which is at odds with his previous approach to not lynching AFK's.

These reason and night kill logic almost confirm qatol as mafia

##Vote: Qatol

On September 14 2018 01:06 RebirthOfLeGenD wrote:

yeah anyone who says this and just wants to sew discord and chaos.

##vote Raynpelikoneet"

On September 15 2018 01:45 raynpelikoneet wrote:
You madea case on him... It was good and accurateand he didn't respond towards it like he should if he is town, he just said he will fuck off.

On September 15 2018 06:00 Sergiovan wrote:
Prplhz: vote for either Rels or RoL. Take a stand that matters for this lynch. You are clearly here

On September 15 2018 06:57 Rels wrote:
what has Qatol done that is townie since I filtered him at the end of D2 ?

On September 16 2018 09:53 Sergiovan wrote:
GG guys!

This game was a real pleasure for me, I haven’t played Mafia in about five years as I said before the start of the game and getting to play with TL veterans like Qatol and RoL who I had never never had the chance to play with before.

I was looking forward to Scum hunting but it was quite fun to just shit things up with Rayn instead.

A few thoughts: above all I’m sad that’s TL has devolved so far that having four AFKs in a mini is possible. I never loved the 30 player games but I’m glad they were an option and our minis used to have so many people ready to replace in, what happened?

I don’t know if anyone noticed but I bread crumbed DT d1 as well as checks on Koshi n1 and Qatol n2 I was saving that to create a big WIFOM mess if and when I was lynched. That ‘check’ is also why I had a hard town read on Qatol d3 that inexplicably I was never questioned on.

I still do not understand the d1 Kaley lynch. Can anyone explain why they thought that was a good idea? She was actively participating in the game and had reads (admittedly bad ones with bad reasoning but she was playing and looked pretty townie I thought)

The d2 lynch was equally disorganized and ended up as poorly as d1. Damdred looked like a fine lynch to me but the town needed to organize better around making us actually commit to something. There was never a lynch where we felt pressure as to where to put our votes. The inactive players really screwed town over here by allowing the scum team to be everywhere.

D3 Rayn and I really took control of the thread and I feel bad for Qatol trying to figure out what was happening while Rayn and I created a mess in his head. I quite enjoyed our play towards RoL just in case our night kill didn’t go through for some reason.

N3 we shot Prplhz and roleblocked him to ensure if he was vet he couldn’t keep himself alive. None of town had hard town reads on him so I figured if there was a doc we would be safe with our shot on Prplhz.

Koshi: I mentioned this in the mafia qt but your vigi shot was very poor, in a game like this you needed to vig an inactive. I’m told Holyflare is now quite good as town so bogging him night one is a high risk low reward play.

Qatol: I really enjoyed playing with you, you were clearly trying to figure things out to the very end. You were excellent.

Kita has been trying to figure out the name I played under in the past on TL. I welcome you all to join in that particular game, I’m happy to answer questions.