Newbie Student Mafia XXIX - Page 27

On September 13 2018 08:41 raynpelikoneet wrote:
whatever you are not getting majority on rels unless it is mafia, so take that into account, 100% truth.

On September 13 2018 08:46 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:

There are still 8 people left my dude...

On September 13 2018 08:48 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I am sorry but what are you guys smoking? I am literally voting for someone i have pegged as mafia and i am being called out for it (regardless of my reasoning), just if i do vote for them, or if i dont. I think Kelsier is mafia. For Meapak i am mafia because i did not stick with my vote on Kelsier (which i gave reasoning for), and now i am mafia because i am voting for Kelsier (so i am sticking with it).

Why am i annoyed? Hmm.. idk, you fucking figure...

On September 13 2018 08:58 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:

For people who aren't rayn, here's the difference.

D2, there was almost no consolidation, if rayn had felt this strongly Kelsier was scum, a townie could have put in the effort to try and make a Kelsier lynch happen, the stakes were also lower as it was not lylo, and there was less information to make a decision. Instead rayn switched to damdred (thus indicating he thinks damdred is scummier) but also names rels as someone he'd vote for (thus suggesting rels is scummier as well).

D3, we're at lylo, we already know rayn thinks rels is as scummy as damdred (who he voted for over kelsier) but instead of voting for rels (who he indicated he would have voted for if others wanted to) he goes back to kelsier. The issue is the prioritization is wrong for a townie. He already indicated D2 he thought rels was scummier than Kelsier during the whole damdred lynch. Now that there are several people who also want to lynch rels, a townie would be happy to see their read is finally getting pushed. Instead we have this quasi meltdown over the kelsier vote which ends up sounding like cornered mafia.

The logic between D2 and D3 does not add up.

On September 13 2018 08:45 raynpelikoneet wrote:

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On September 12 2018 00:54 Vivax wrote:
Qatol so far feels like he's furthering scum agenda and both NKs point heavily towards him. Koshi loved me for pointing out that I didn't like the way he was going after kaley, and HF also was rather sure he was mafia. Both died, and Qatols followup is to try and get a lynch on me going regardless. From a strategic perspective, both NKs are bad for me, he doesn't take that into account.

It's also been a while since HF got killed N1 simply cause HF is a player everyone who knows him is always paranoid about and he becomes a potential mislynch as the game goes on. So a Qatol made decision would fit here, simply cause he doesn't know enough about HF.

Additionally, his confidence feels fake to me so far. I haven't been able to be confident about my reads and straightforward about what I want to do not cause I am mafia, but cause we had a lot of inactives for most of the game and that tells me that I have to be careful about whom I accuse since I can never exclude that mafia simply didn't post. It feels wrong to me to just look at the actives and find reasons to scumread them under these circumstances. But Qatol doesn't. Day 1 he easily finds reasons to vote off kaley, and D2 he easily sees it as an easy reason to go after me that I display this type of hesitance.

But as an active poster, I don't believe Qatol takes priority before Damdred, even though I see him working against me until the point he is lynched, should he not decide to let his scumread fall (which isn't implying that it would be a reason for me to retract my own read on him).

On September 13 2018 08:27 Qatol wrote:
Just to be clear, ##vote Rels

On September 13 2018 08:26 Qatol wrote:

What "most reasonable points" against me? This is the type of post that gets everyone confused later (and mirrors the posts made about HF and Koshi, which lack real substance). Please point to a specific post if you're going to say this. Otherwise, it just turns into the same game of misguided telephone I've spent most of the game trying to defuse. Are you talking about post 333?

As far as your Rels read goes, as I stated before, I'm inclined to agree.

On September 13 2018 07:05 Qatol wrote:

I like prplhz for mafia. Your case on rels makes sense to me. I'm honestly not sure about the third one; this is where I had vivax. I think they have someone who noticed Koshi blueslipping, so it would have to be someone relatively perceptive. Rayn meets that criteria (and honestly, I think the town has already lost if rayn is red).

On September 11 2018 23:53 KelsierSC wrote:
Nothing is happening in D2, literally no one is posting.

The only thing I have to work with is the Koshi night kill so I posted my thoughts on it, even asking for people to link me posts where koshi hinted at blue and I get called mafia and people saying "what the heck is this"

I am voting sergio at the start of the day because of the Koshi nightkill and my own thoughts on D1. I still have vivax as scum but im using the new information for my vote.

However as there hasn't been anything contributed this day and we have a bunch of AFK's i would rather lynch one of those NOW. I haven't unvoted sergio yet.

On September 12 2018 00:40 KelsierSC wrote:
I could lynch anyone apart from you and rayn.

On September 13 2018 16:25 KelsierSC wrote:


I'm thinking why vivax was killed, he was town read by some and scum read by some, however his major scum read after damdred was Qatol and only activity was saving him.







These quotes show he is setting himself up to lynch whatever AFK is town and win, which is at odds with his previous approach to not lynching AFK's.

These reason and night kill logic almost confirm qatol as mafia

##Vote: Qatol